WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:03.000 Dragnet. 00:03.000 --> 00:11.000 Ladies and gentlemen, the story you are about to hear is true. 00:11.000 --> 00:14.000 The names have been changed to protect the innocent. 00:21.000 --> 00:25.000 You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned a robbery detail. 00:25.000 --> 00:28.000 Two men have been terrorizing the tavern keepers in your city. 00:28.000 --> 00:31.000 In spite of your efforts, they continue to run free. 00:31.000 --> 00:33.000 Your job, stop them. 00:38.000 --> 00:42.000 Dragnet. The document a drama of an actual crime. 00:42.000 --> 00:46.000 For the next 30 minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, 00:46.000 --> 00:52.000 you will travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official police files. 00:52.000 --> 00:55.000 From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, 00:55.000 --> 00:58.000 Dragnet is the story of your police force in action. 01:03.000 --> 01:05.000 It was Tuesday, June 14th. It was hot in Los Angeles. 01:05.000 --> 01:07.000 We were working the day watch out a robbery detail. 01:07.000 --> 01:10.000 My partner is Frank Smith, the boss of TV detectives Thad Brown. My name is Friday. 01:10.000 --> 01:13.000 We're on our way out from the office and it was 11.13 a.m. 01:13.000 --> 01:15.000 and we got to the corner of 7th Street and Sunset Boulevard. 01:15.000 --> 01:17.000 The Black Dog Bar and Grill. 01:19.000 --> 01:20.000 In the back. 01:20.000 --> 01:21.000 Hi. 01:21.000 --> 01:22.000 How are you? 01:22.000 --> 01:24.000 Well, how will it be? 01:24.000 --> 01:25.000 Police officers. 01:25.000 --> 01:26.000 Oh, cops, huh? 01:26.000 --> 01:28.000 That's right. This is Frank Smith. My name is Friday. 01:28.000 --> 01:29.000 How are you? Nick Thomas. 01:29.000 --> 01:31.000 I guess about last night, huh? 01:31.000 --> 01:32.000 That's right. Would like to go over a couple things with you. 01:32.000 --> 01:33.000 Why, sure. Can I get you anything? 01:33.000 --> 01:34.000 No. 01:34.000 --> 01:36.000 You mind if I have a cup of coffee while we talk? 01:36.000 --> 01:37.000 No, go ahead. 01:37.000 --> 01:38.000 Okay. 01:40.000 --> 01:41.000 Sure surprised me. 01:41.000 --> 01:42.000 What's that? 01:42.000 --> 01:43.000 Last night I sure wasn't expecting it. 01:43.000 --> 01:44.000 Yeah. 01:44.000 --> 01:47.000 You know, you read about things like that happening, but you just never figure them happening to you. 01:47.000 --> 01:48.000 Mm-hmm. 01:48.000 --> 01:51.000 Of course, you've been in the business as long as I have. You ought to expect it. 01:51.000 --> 01:52.000 At least that's the way I figure it. 01:52.000 --> 01:54.000 Yeah. 01:54.000 --> 01:56.000 Well, okay, what do you want to know? 01:56.000 --> 02:00.000 Well, according to what you told the officers last night, the men came into the place about 1130, is that right? 02:00.000 --> 02:01.000 That's right, 1130. 02:01.000 --> 02:02.000 You sure about the time? 02:02.000 --> 02:05.000 Oh, yeah. You see, I always look at that newscaster, 1115, 1130. 02:05.000 --> 02:06.000 Mm-hmm. 02:06.000 --> 02:09.000 He went off the air and they just put up the card where it tells us what station it is, and this guy walked right in. 02:09.000 --> 02:10.000 Yeah. 02:10.000 --> 02:11.000 I can't stand him myself. 02:11.000 --> 02:12.000 What? 02:12.000 --> 02:14.000 The newscaster. I can't stand him. Me and the missus have gotten some real bad beefs about him. 02:14.000 --> 02:15.000 Is that right? 02:15.000 --> 02:18.000 Oh, yeah. She digs him, but I can't stand him myself. He's a real no-good. 02:18.000 --> 02:19.000 Mm-hmm. 02:19.000 --> 02:23.000 He's the kind of a guy where if some old man's spitting the sidewalk, he could build it up so we should evacuate the whole city. 02:23.000 --> 02:24.000 You know what I mean? 02:24.000 --> 02:25.000 Yeah, I think so. 02:25.000 --> 02:26.000 Well, he's like that. 02:26.000 --> 02:27.000 Mm-hmm. 02:27.000 --> 02:28.000 He's a real no-good. 02:28.000 --> 02:30.000 What if you check this description of the two men who held you up? 02:30.000 --> 02:31.000 Sure. 02:31.000 --> 02:33.000 I know those two guys anyplace. I ever saw them again, I'd sure know them. 02:33.000 --> 02:34.000 Mm-hmm. 02:34.000 --> 02:37.000 Yeah, that's them, the tall one and the fat one. That's them. I know them anyplace. 02:37.000 --> 02:38.000 What'd they say to you? 02:38.000 --> 02:42.000 Well, hardly nothing at all. Just walked up to the bar, leaned over, and told me to hand over the money. 02:42.000 --> 02:44.000 I see. You remember the exact words? 02:44.000 --> 02:45.000 You mean the way they said it? 02:45.000 --> 02:46.000 Yeah. 02:46.000 --> 02:49.000 Well, let me see. I think it was, uh... 02:49.000 --> 02:52.000 Okay, Mac, this is stick-up. Do like we tell you, you won't get hurt. My daddy talked. 02:52.000 --> 02:53.000 Mm-hmm. 02:53.000 --> 02:55.000 Just give us the money, don't make any noise. 02:55.000 --> 02:56.000 Yeah. 02:56.000 --> 02:59.000 I did. Walked right back to the register, opened it up, and handed over the loot. 02:59.000 --> 03:00.000 And what happened then? 03:00.000 --> 03:02.000 Told me to keep quiet, and then they walked out of the place. 03:02.000 --> 03:04.000 Mm-hmm. Anybody else in here? 03:04.000 --> 03:06.000 Oh, there was a couple of people up in front. 03:06.000 --> 03:07.000 Did the thieves bother them? 03:07.000 --> 03:11.000 No, they were just after the money in the register. Other couple didn't even know there was anybody here until it was all over. 03:11.000 --> 03:12.000 I see. 03:12.000 --> 03:13.000 There were a couple of kids. 03:13.000 --> 03:14.000 What's that? 03:14.000 --> 03:16.000 You know what I mean? Like young and real in love. 03:16.000 --> 03:18.000 Roof could have fallen in. They wouldn't have known it. 03:18.000 --> 03:19.000 Yeah. 03:19.000 --> 03:21.000 Cops talked to them last night, but they couldn't tell them nothing. 03:21.000 --> 03:23.000 You say you'd know these men if you saw them again, huh? 03:23.000 --> 03:25.000 You just get all the money you can on that one. 03:25.000 --> 03:26.000 Did you see if they had a car? 03:26.000 --> 03:27.000 Who? 03:27.000 --> 03:28.000 The men who held you up. 03:28.000 --> 03:29.000 Oh, no. 03:29.000 --> 03:30.000 They didn't have one, did they? 03:30.000 --> 03:31.000 Well, I didn't see it. 03:31.000 --> 03:33.000 Is there anything about them that you can tell us? 03:33.000 --> 03:36.000 No, just a couple of guys. One tall, the other one fat. 03:36.000 --> 03:38.000 Did you see if they had a gun? 03:38.000 --> 03:40.000 You think I'd have handed over the money if they didn't? 03:40.000 --> 03:41.000 What kind of a weapon was it? 03:41.000 --> 03:44.000 It was a gun, the kind with bullets. You pull the trigger, it goes bang. 03:44.000 --> 03:45.000 It was a gun. 03:45.000 --> 03:47.000 I know, but was it a revolver or an automatic? 03:47.000 --> 03:49.000 Well, I don't know. I guess it was... 03:49.000 --> 03:51.000 What come to think of it, I guess... 03:52.000 --> 03:53.000 Hey, you know you're right. 03:53.000 --> 03:54.000 What do you mean? 03:54.000 --> 03:55.000 I didn't see it. 03:55.000 --> 03:59.000 Not even a peek. Guy had his hand in his pockets like this, you know? Like this? 03:59.000 --> 04:00.000 Yeah. 04:00.000 --> 04:02.000 I didn't actually see the gun, though. Not for real. 04:02.000 --> 04:04.000 He just had it in his pocket. 04:05.000 --> 04:07.000 Hey, you think he was just playing a joke on me? 04:07.000 --> 04:08.000 What's that? 04:08.000 --> 04:09.000 A funny that he really didn't have a gun at all? 04:09.000 --> 04:10.000 No, we wouldn't know. 04:10.000 --> 04:11.000 Why not? 04:11.000 --> 04:12.000 What? 04:12.000 --> 04:13.000 Well, why don't you know it's your job, isn't it? 04:13.000 --> 04:16.000 Knowing things like that, bunch of crooks running around, you don't even know if they've got a gun. 04:16.000 --> 04:18.000 The fine lot of cops you guys are. 04:18.000 --> 04:20.000 Hey, I might have just given him that money for nothing. 04:20.000 --> 04:22.000 If he didn't have a gun, there was no reason to hand it over. 04:22.000 --> 04:24.000 No reason at all. I should have found out. That's what, huh? 04:24.000 --> 04:25.000 What do you mean? 04:25.000 --> 04:26.000 I made a grab at the guy. 04:26.000 --> 04:29.000 Probably didn't have nothing in the pocket but just his hand or something like that. 04:29.000 --> 04:32.000 If he didn't have one, if I was right, I could have told you guys. 04:32.000 --> 04:34.000 Well, what was the other way? 04:34.000 --> 04:43.000 What if you were wrong? 04:43.000 --> 04:45.000 From the method of operation and the description of the suspects, 04:45.000 --> 04:49.000 we knew that they were the same two men who had staged six robberies in the past week. 04:49.000 --> 04:53.000 We showed the latest victim the mug shots from the packages that the stats office had turned for us. 04:53.000 --> 04:56.000 They pointed out three of the pictures and said they looked something like the hold-up men, 04:56.000 --> 04:59.000 but he was unwilling to make even a tentative identification. 04:59.000 --> 05:00.000 11.56 a.m. 05:00.000 --> 05:03.000 We returned to the office and put in a call to Leighton Prince. 05:03.000 --> 05:05.000 They hadn't been able to turn anything of value. 05:05.000 --> 05:08.000 A canvas of the area around the bar netted nothing. 05:08.000 --> 05:11.000 The case stood where it had seven days before when the robbery was first reported. 05:11.000 --> 05:13.000 1.15 p.m. 05:13.000 --> 05:16.000 Well, it doesn't seem to be a directional trend. 05:16.000 --> 05:18.000 No, they're hitting all over, aren't they? 05:18.000 --> 05:19.000 Anything from Bereton? 05:19.000 --> 05:22.000 List of names came in this morning. We've already checked most of them out. 05:22.000 --> 05:24.000 We could use a few more leads. 05:24.000 --> 05:25.000 I'd settle for one. 05:25.000 --> 05:26.000 Ben. 05:26.000 --> 05:27.000 You seen the skipper? 05:27.000 --> 05:30.000 Yeah, I was in earlier. I don't think he's in the office now. 05:30.000 --> 05:31.000 I wonder when he's going to climb on it. 05:31.000 --> 05:33.000 I don't know. I've been expecting him to. 05:33.000 --> 05:34.000 Is he better off around? 05:34.000 --> 05:35.000 I haven't seen him. Why? 05:35.000 --> 05:37.000 Well, he said he might be able to help us turn something. 05:37.000 --> 05:39.000 Said he had an informant down in LA Street. 05:39.000 --> 05:40.000 Mm-hmm. 05:40.000 --> 05:41.000 Hot shot. 05:45.000 --> 05:46.000 Let's go. 05:46.000 --> 05:47.000 Same tube. 05:47.000 --> 05:48.000 Yeah. 05:48.000 --> 05:49.000 They hit again. 05:57.000 --> 06:00.000 Frank and I left the office and drove out to the scene of the latest robbery. 06:00.000 --> 06:02.000 It was a small restaurant located on South Spring. 06:02.000 --> 06:06.000 By the time we got there, a radio card arrived and the officer was checking the area. 06:06.000 --> 06:09.000 You're the cops, are you? Are you more cops? 06:09.000 --> 06:10.000 That's right. 06:10.000 --> 06:11.000 That's what I thought. 06:11.000 --> 06:14.000 Other fella, he left. He said he was going to look for the crooks. He just went up the street. 06:14.000 --> 06:15.000 You want to tell us what happened? 06:15.000 --> 06:17.000 Held up, that's what. Held up. 06:17.000 --> 06:19.000 Yes, we understand. Did the officer get a description of the thieves? 06:19.000 --> 06:22.000 Sure, got it first thing. Said something about doing a broadcast or something. 06:22.000 --> 06:25.000 I'm not sure what he meant, but that's what he said. 06:25.000 --> 06:27.000 All right. You want to give us your name? 06:27.000 --> 06:28.000 Hector Pip. 06:28.000 --> 06:29.000 What's that? 06:29.000 --> 06:31.000 PIP. Like C. 06:31.000 --> 06:32.000 Uh-huh. 06:32.000 --> 06:34.000 Corn Dog wrote a story about them. 06:34.000 --> 06:37.000 Pips. C, you know. Yep. Hector Pip. 06:37.000 --> 06:40.000 This is my partner, Frank Smith. My name's Friday. 06:40.000 --> 06:43.000 Sure thing. Now, what do you all know? 06:43.000 --> 06:45.000 Well, would you tell us what happened, please? 06:45.000 --> 06:49.000 Better get on the ball. Can't stand around and waste time. Better get the fellas what did it. 06:49.000 --> 06:53.000 Came in, right through that door. Came in and told me it was a stick-up. 06:53.000 --> 06:56.000 Had it just as plain as anything. 06:56.000 --> 06:58.000 Stick-up. 06:58.000 --> 07:01.000 Sent me to hand over the money in the cash register. Over. 07:01.000 --> 07:03.000 How much was it? 07:03.000 --> 07:06.000 Well, I'm not sure. Must have been about 60, 70 dollars. I'm not sure. 07:06.000 --> 07:08.000 Did you see him when they left? 07:08.000 --> 07:10.000 Well, certainly. Couldn't very well miss him. Small place. 07:10.000 --> 07:12.000 Just stood here and watched him go. 07:12.000 --> 07:16.000 Watched my money go right out the door. 07:16.000 --> 07:18.000 Yes, sir. What I meant was, did you see him get in the car? 07:18.000 --> 07:20.000 No, I didn't. No, I sure didn't. 07:20.000 --> 07:23.000 Just stood here and watched him go. But I didn't see no car. 07:23.000 --> 07:24.000 Was there anybody else in the place? 07:24.000 --> 07:25.000 Oh, there was one fellow. 07:25.000 --> 07:26.000 Where is he? 07:26.000 --> 07:29.000 He left. All excitement got into gear and he left. 07:29.000 --> 07:31.000 Chincy, too. 07:31.000 --> 07:32.000 Chincy. 07:32.000 --> 07:33.000 What do you mean? 07:33.000 --> 07:36.000 Old me for a piece of cream pie and a cup of coffee. 07:36.000 --> 07:37.000 Have you seen him before? 07:37.000 --> 07:40.000 No, on your face. He ain't from around here. Brand new. 07:40.000 --> 07:42.000 Did you hear either of the two menus the name of any kind? 07:42.000 --> 07:43.000 I sure did, yeah. 07:43.000 --> 07:45.000 You want to tell us? 07:45.000 --> 07:46.000 Do I have to? 07:46.000 --> 07:48.000 We'd like you to, if you will. 07:48.000 --> 07:52.000 Large. That's what he said. Large. 07:52.000 --> 07:53.000 Which one? 07:53.000 --> 07:56.000 The tall one, like a fence picket. He's the one. 07:56.000 --> 07:57.000 He called the other one large? 07:57.000 --> 07:58.000 No. 07:58.000 --> 07:59.000 But you said he used the name. 07:59.000 --> 08:03.000 Sure. But he was talking to me. 08:03.000 --> 08:08.000 Yeah. Well, look, is there anything else you can tell us about the man that might make it easier to identify him? 08:08.000 --> 08:12.000 No, just two fellows. One tall, thin, other one fat. 08:12.000 --> 08:13.000 Mm-hmm. 08:13.000 --> 08:16.000 Didn't have no reason to call me large. 08:16.000 --> 08:19.000 I've been on a diet for a couple of weeks. 08:19.000 --> 08:21.000 Eating those pills that swell up in your stomach. 08:21.000 --> 08:23.000 Mm-hmm. 08:23.000 --> 08:26.000 Well, I guess they work for some people. 08:26.000 --> 08:29.000 Makes me feel as though I had a sponge. 08:29.000 --> 08:31.000 Was there anything outstanding about the man? 08:31.000 --> 08:33.000 No. Not that comes to mind, no. 08:33.000 --> 08:34.000 They have a gun? 08:34.000 --> 08:35.000 Not right off. 08:35.000 --> 08:36.000 What do you mean? 08:36.000 --> 08:40.000 Didn't have one when they come in. Of course, I didn't know that. 08:40.000 --> 08:43.000 No, sir, I didn't have any idea, no. 08:43.000 --> 08:45.000 Got him now, though. Stole him with the money. 08:45.000 --> 08:46.000 What? 08:46.000 --> 08:50.000 38 revolver and the 25 automatic. Took him. 08:50.000 --> 08:52.000 I'm sorry. 08:52.000 --> 08:54.000 I'm sorry. 08:54.000 --> 08:56.000 I'm sorry. 08:56.000 --> 08:58.000 I'm sorry. 08:58.000 --> 09:00.000 Frank and I took the latest victim to the city hall. 09:00.000 --> 09:04.000 While we started to check the mug books, we ran the serial numbers of the guns through the record section. 09:04.000 --> 09:06.000 We found that they were both registered to Hector Pipp. 09:06.000 --> 09:09.000 At 3.46 p.m., Frank came back to the office from the mug room. 09:09.000 --> 09:12.000 Joe, back here. 09:12.000 --> 09:13.000 How's it going? 09:13.000 --> 09:14.000 No, he still hasn't found it, eh? 09:14.000 --> 09:15.000 What's he checking now? 09:15.000 --> 09:16.000 Coming out books. 09:16.000 --> 09:18.000 Got four or five more to go through. 09:18.000 --> 09:20.000 You got pictures of stats office term? 09:20.000 --> 09:21.000 Yeah. 09:21.000 --> 09:22.000 Nothing? 09:22.000 --> 09:23.000 Hi, we had a meeting. 09:23.000 --> 09:24.000 Hi, Walt. Mug room. 09:24.000 --> 09:25.000 I'm looking for you. 09:25.000 --> 09:26.000 Yeah? 09:26.000 --> 09:28.000 Talked to a fellow down on Main this morning. 09:28.000 --> 09:30.000 Said he knows the guys you're looking for. 09:38.000 --> 09:41.000 We made arrangements for somebody to stay with the victim, and then Frank and I left the city hall. 09:41.000 --> 09:44.000 Sergeant Walt Bitteroff drove us over to talk to his informant. 09:44.000 --> 09:47.000 We found him in a cheap hotel on Wall Street. 09:47.000 --> 09:48.000 Hey, Walt, come on in. 09:48.000 --> 09:49.000 Thanks, Angie. 09:49.000 --> 09:50.000 You get it? 09:50.000 --> 09:51.000 Yep. Here you are. 09:51.000 --> 09:52.000 Am I cold? 09:52.000 --> 09:53.000 Right out of the icebox. 09:53.000 --> 09:54.000 Thanks. 09:54.000 --> 09:56.000 These are the two guys I told you about, Angie. 09:56.000 --> 09:58.000 Oh, yeah. Hey, want some cold beer? 09:58.000 --> 09:59.000 No, thanks, Walt. 09:59.000 --> 10:00.000 How about you, Walt? 10:00.000 --> 10:02.000 You don't mind if I have one? 10:02.000 --> 10:03.000 Go ahead. 10:03.000 --> 10:05.000 Oh, I must have had a good time last night. 10:05.000 --> 10:06.000 Yeah. 10:06.000 --> 10:08.000 I feel like they're three feet apart. 10:08.000 --> 10:12.000 Nothing like a cold beer next morning. 10:12.000 --> 10:15.000 My girlfriend gave me some new glasses, like in a beer commercial. 10:15.000 --> 10:16.000 Yeah, tonight. 10:16.000 --> 10:17.000 Sure looks good, doesn't it? 10:17.000 --> 10:18.000 Mm-hmm. 10:21.000 --> 10:24.000 Oh, yes, sir. That's what I needed. 10:26.000 --> 10:27.000 Funny. 10:27.000 --> 10:28.000 What? 10:28.000 --> 10:29.000 Funny about beer. 10:29.000 --> 10:33.000 Always tastes good, but a glass like this makes it taste better. 10:34.000 --> 10:36.000 Embrooge. Pure embrooge. 10:36.000 --> 10:38.000 Yeah. I wonder if we can get down to business, Angie. 10:38.000 --> 10:41.000 Sure, sure. Now I get my head back. What can I do for you? 10:41.000 --> 10:44.000 I said you had some information on the two guys who were pulling these bar holdups. 10:44.000 --> 10:45.000 Yeah, yeah, that's right. 10:45.000 --> 10:47.000 I'd like you to tell Friday and Smith here about it. 10:47.000 --> 10:48.000 They cops? 10:48.000 --> 10:49.000 That's right. 10:50.000 --> 10:51.000 You're after the fellas, huh? 10:51.000 --> 10:52.000 Mm-hmm. 10:53.000 --> 10:55.000 Walt, tell you anything about set-up? 10:55.000 --> 10:56.000 What do you mean? 10:56.000 --> 10:57.000 Well, anything you get, it didn't come from me. 10:57.000 --> 10:58.000 Yeah, they know that, Angie. 10:58.000 --> 10:59.000 Well, I gotta make sure. 10:59.000 --> 11:02.000 I remember something that helped you out. I forget it right away. 11:02.000 --> 11:04.000 You talked to me five minutes from now. I don't remember. 11:04.000 --> 11:05.000 Do you? 11:05.000 --> 11:06.000 All right. What about the guys? 11:06.000 --> 11:08.000 Heavy. Got in town a couple of months ago. 11:08.000 --> 11:09.000 Where they from? 11:09.000 --> 11:10.000 St. Louis. 11:10.000 --> 11:11.000 They got the names? 11:11.000 --> 11:12.000 Yeah, part of them. 11:12.000 --> 11:13.000 What do you mean? 11:13.000 --> 11:14.000 Well, just with their call, that's all I got. 11:14.000 --> 11:15.000 That'll do. 11:15.000 --> 11:17.000 Well, don't pay to ask too many questions, you know. 11:17.000 --> 11:18.000 No. 11:18.000 --> 11:21.000 Step on somebody's toes and you find a foot in your face. 11:21.000 --> 11:22.000 What about the names? 11:22.000 --> 11:25.000 Well, tall one's called Ronnie, fat guy's tag whale. 11:25.000 --> 11:26.000 Is that what everybody calls them? 11:26.000 --> 11:27.000 All I heard. 11:27.000 --> 11:29.000 Know where they live? 11:29.000 --> 11:30.000 Nope. 11:30.000 --> 11:31.000 Where'd you meet them? 11:31.000 --> 11:32.000 I move around. 11:32.000 --> 11:34.000 Run into them a couple of bars. 11:34.000 --> 11:35.000 Seen them once or twice. 11:35.000 --> 11:36.000 How do you know they're the ones we're after? 11:36.000 --> 11:37.000 Just figures, that's all. 11:37.000 --> 11:40.000 Got a big roll, talk loud, and where they look, just figures. 11:40.000 --> 11:42.000 You know where we can pick them up? 11:42.000 --> 11:43.000 I haven't got any idea. 11:43.000 --> 11:44.000 They driving the car? 11:44.000 --> 11:45.000 Well, not that I've seen. 11:45.000 --> 11:47.000 Anything else you can tell us about them? 11:47.000 --> 11:48.000 You've had it. 11:48.000 --> 11:50.000 Have either one of them fallen? 11:50.000 --> 11:53.000 No, we never spent an evening talking about it, but it figures they did. 11:53.000 --> 11:54.000 Back east, maybe? 11:54.000 --> 11:55.000 Yeah, I guess so. 11:55.000 --> 11:58.000 I heard the whales say this was the first time they'd been on the coast. 11:58.000 --> 12:00.000 All right, Angie, if there's nothing else. 12:00.000 --> 12:03.000 If you hear anything, Angie, we'd appreciate a call. 12:03.000 --> 12:04.000 Works out, I'll let you know. 12:04.000 --> 12:06.000 I'm not gonna put anything in writing. 12:06.000 --> 12:08.000 If those jokers hear about it, I'd have to dig a hole. 12:08.000 --> 12:09.000 Okay. 12:09.000 --> 12:10.000 Thanks for coming by, Walt. 12:10.000 --> 12:11.000 Yeah. 12:11.000 --> 12:12.000 Glad I met you guys. 12:12.000 --> 12:13.000 See you again, huh? 12:13.000 --> 12:14.000 Yeah, sure. 12:14.000 --> 12:16.000 All right, thanks for the beer, Walt. 12:16.000 --> 12:17.000 It's okay. 12:17.000 --> 12:18.000 Sure made a difference. 12:18.000 --> 12:22.000 First got up, I felt like a gang of midgets had been playing soccer in my mouth. 12:22.000 --> 12:23.000 We were up last night. 12:23.000 --> 12:25.000 Gotta make a few calls around to find out. 12:25.000 --> 12:26.000 Huh? 12:26.000 --> 12:27.000 What kind of time I had. 12:27.000 --> 12:31.000 We returned to the office and sent a radiogram to the St. Louis Police Department requesting 12:31.000 --> 12:35.000 all information on anyone in their files who'd used the nicknames Ronnie or Whale. 12:35.000 --> 12:38.000 We checked the two names through our moniker file without result. 12:38.000 --> 12:42.000 The next day, Wednesday, June 15th at 5.26 p.m., we got word from the east. 12:42.000 --> 12:44.000 Here it is, John. 12:44.000 --> 12:45.000 St. Louis? 12:45.000 --> 12:47.000 Yeah, looks like they're trying to get us out of here. 12:47.000 --> 12:49.000 We're gonna have to get out of here. 12:49.000 --> 12:51.000 We're gonna have to get out of here. 12:51.000 --> 12:53.000 We're gonna have to get out of here. 12:53.000 --> 12:55.000 We're gonna have to get out of here. 12:55.000 --> 12:57.000 Hey, John. 12:55.000 --> 12:57.000 St. Louis? 12:57.000 --> 12:59.000 Yeah, looks like they turned them. 12:59.000 --> 13:00.000 Let me see. 13:00.000 --> 13:02.000 Arnold Sabba and Gerard Llewellyn. 13:02.000 --> 13:03.000 How about Mugs? 13:03.000 --> 13:05.000 We're sending stand-ups right away. 13:05.000 --> 13:07.000 Should be here in the morning, shouldn't we? 13:05.000 --> 13:07.000 Yeah. 13:07.000 --> 13:09.000 All right, when I'll get it. 13:12.000 --> 13:13.000 What is it? 13:13.000 --> 13:14.000 Robbery out on the Olympics. 13:14.000 --> 13:15.000 Sounds like Ronnie and the Whale. 13:15.000 --> 13:16.000 How long ago? 13:16.000 --> 13:17.000 Just left the place. 13:17.000 --> 13:18.000 Shot it up pretty bad. 13:18.000 --> 13:19.000 Anybody hurt? 13:18.000 --> 13:19.000 No. 13:19.000 --> 13:34.000 The policemen got in their way. 13:34.000 --> 13:37.000 The Green Tree Cafe was located at the corner of Olympic Boulevard and Estrada Street. 13:37.000 --> 13:39.000 By the time we got there, an ambulance had arrived, 13:39.000 --> 13:42.000 and the wounded officer had been removed to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital. 13:42.000 --> 13:44.000 A felony car from Central Division had arrived at the scene 13:44.000 --> 13:46.000 and had started to search for the officer's assailants. 13:46.000 --> 13:48.000 We got the story from the bartender, Alvin Jaggers. 13:48.000 --> 13:52.000 Well, two guys come in, like I told you, walk right in, told me it was a hold-up. 13:52.000 --> 13:53.000 How'd the policeman get shot? 13:53.000 --> 13:54.000 On the way out, it happened. 13:54.000 --> 13:56.000 After I gave the guys the money, started to leave, 13:56.000 --> 13:57.000 Abner saw him, tried to stop him. 13:57.000 --> 13:58.000 You know the officer, do you? 13:58.000 --> 14:01.000 Yeah, he comes in once in a while, him and his wife come in for steak sandwiches. 14:01.000 --> 14:02.000 Was his wife with him tonight? 14:02.000 --> 14:05.000 Yeah, I think she went up to the hospital with him. 14:05.000 --> 14:06.000 I think that's where she went. 14:06.000 --> 14:10.000 Anyhow, when Abner saw these two fellas, you know, with the hold-up man, 14:10.000 --> 14:12.000 when he saw them, he told them to put down the guns. 14:12.000 --> 14:13.000 Where was he standing? 14:13.000 --> 14:14.000 You mean Abner? 14:14.000 --> 14:15.000 That's right. 14:15.000 --> 14:16.000 Oh, he was up there by the door. 14:16.000 --> 14:19.000 Him and the missus was in the front booth, and the guys went right by him when they come in. 14:19.000 --> 14:22.000 He was standing right by the door, told them to put down the guns and give up. 14:22.000 --> 14:24.000 Well, now did he have his gun out of the holster? 14:24.000 --> 14:27.000 Yeah, you know, he had a kind of aim, like this here. 14:27.000 --> 14:29.000 I reckon he was afraid of the people in the place, you know. 14:29.000 --> 14:30.000 He had a shoot or something. 14:30.000 --> 14:33.000 And these two fellas stopped by when they saw him dead in their steps, 14:33.000 --> 14:35.000 told Abner to get out of the way. 14:35.000 --> 14:37.000 He didn't budge none, held his ground for sure. 14:37.000 --> 14:40.000 Him right there, and them here, see? 14:40.000 --> 14:42.000 Now the tall one, he yelled that they was going to leave, 14:42.000 --> 14:44.000 and Abner shouldn't try to stop them. 14:44.000 --> 14:47.000 And they started to walk outside, and Abner brought the gun up so as he could shoot at him. 14:47.000 --> 14:48.000 Didn't make it, though. 14:48.000 --> 14:51.000 Shot him dead center, right here, in the chest. 14:51.000 --> 14:54.000 After that, they ran out the place, took off down the street. 14:54.000 --> 14:55.000 Did the officer shoot at him at all? 14:55.000 --> 14:57.000 Mm-mm. Didn't have no chance. 14:57.000 --> 14:59.000 Guess he was finished before he started. 14:59.000 --> 15:00.000 Did the men get into a car? 15:00.000 --> 15:02.000 Well, if they did, I didn't see him. 15:02.000 --> 15:03.000 Too much going on. 15:03.000 --> 15:05.000 Did either one of these men use a name while they were in here? 15:05.000 --> 15:06.000 How you mean? 15:06.000 --> 15:07.000 Well, did they call each other by name? 15:07.000 --> 15:09.000 Well, let me think about that for a minute. 15:09.000 --> 15:11.000 Yeah, I think they did. 15:11.000 --> 15:12.000 What was it, do you remember? 15:12.000 --> 15:14.000 Well, after the shooting at tall when he turned the other fellow, 15:14.000 --> 15:16.000 and he said, come on, well, let's get out of here. 15:16.000 --> 15:18.000 Uh-huh. Which one of them did the actual shooting? 15:18.000 --> 15:19.000 I couldn't tell you that. 15:19.000 --> 15:20.000 What do you mean? 15:20.000 --> 15:22.000 Well, both of them shot about the same time. 15:22.000 --> 15:23.000 It was more than a half a second difference. 15:23.000 --> 15:25.000 Bang, bang. Real fast. 15:25.000 --> 15:27.000 Both about the same time. 15:27.000 --> 15:30.000 I don't know if they both hit Abner, but they both shot at the same time. 15:30.000 --> 15:32.000 Have you seen these men around before? 15:32.000 --> 15:33.000 You, no matter of fact, I have. 15:33.000 --> 15:34.000 They've been in here? 15:34.000 --> 15:36.000 Yeah, must have been three, four weeks ago. 15:36.000 --> 15:37.000 Mm-hmm. 15:37.000 --> 15:39.000 Coming with Georgia. I guess they're pretty good friends. 15:39.000 --> 15:40.000 Who's she? 15:40.000 --> 15:42.000 She's a customer, spent a lot of time in here. 15:42.000 --> 15:44.000 Drinks bangers. Rough. 15:44.000 --> 15:46.000 You know where we can get in touch with her? 15:46.000 --> 15:47.000 Shouldn't be too hard. 15:47.000 --> 15:49.000 She lives down next block. 15:49.000 --> 16:02.000 We left the barn, walked to the entrance of the apartment hotel down the street. 16:02.000 --> 16:05.000 According to the building register, Georgia Wells occupied apartment 314. 16:05.000 --> 16:08.000 We rang the buzzer, and after a few moments, we were admitted to the building. 16:08.000 --> 16:12.000 The elevator wasn't working, so we walked up three flights. 16:12.000 --> 16:14.000 Oh, man, I guess I'm getting old. 16:14.000 --> 16:19.000 Makes you wonder how far you'd get without all the modern conveniences. 16:19.000 --> 16:20.000 I guess this is it here. 16:20.000 --> 16:23.000 Yeah. 16:23.000 --> 16:25.000 Better try it again. 16:25.000 --> 16:27.000 Yeah. 16:32.000 --> 16:33.000 Yeah? 16:33.000 --> 16:34.000 Georgia Wells. 16:34.000 --> 16:35.000 That's right. I know you. 16:35.000 --> 16:36.000 Police officers, we'd like to talk to you. 16:36.000 --> 16:37.000 What about? 16:37.000 --> 16:39.000 Might be better if we came inside. 16:39.000 --> 16:43.000 Sure, come on in. Nothing here to hide. Come on. 16:43.000 --> 16:44.000 I'll look around, Frank. 16:44.000 --> 16:46.000 Yeah. 16:46.000 --> 16:48.000 What's she looking for? 16:48.000 --> 16:49.000 Just want to check the place. 16:49.000 --> 16:51.000 You're gonna find anything here. I got no beef with the cops. 16:51.000 --> 16:54.000 Never been in any trouble before, and I want to keep it that way. 16:54.000 --> 16:55.000 All right. 16:55.000 --> 16:56.000 It's clean, Joe. 16:56.000 --> 16:57.000 You're gonna tell me what this is all about. 16:57.000 --> 17:00.000 You know a couple of men named Ronald Sabba and Gerard Llewellyn. 17:00.000 --> 17:01.000 Why are you asking? 17:01.000 --> 17:02.000 You know them? 17:02.000 --> 17:03.000 Yeah. 17:03.000 --> 17:04.000 You know where they are? 17:04.000 --> 17:06.000 No, look, maybe if you tell me why you're looking for the boys, I can help you out. 17:06.000 --> 17:07.000 It's a police matter. 17:07.000 --> 17:08.000 You go find them yourself. 17:08.000 --> 17:10.000 When did you see them last? 17:10.000 --> 17:11.000 A couple days ago. 17:11.000 --> 17:12.000 Where? 17:12.000 --> 17:13.000 Bar, over on Sixth. 17:13.000 --> 17:14.000 You know where they live? 17:14.000 --> 17:16.000 Look, mister, I don't carry no water for them, 17:16.000 --> 17:19.000 but I'm not gonna blow the whistle until I know what the beef is. 17:19.000 --> 17:21.000 It's pretty serious, and you're not doing yourself any good acting like this. 17:21.000 --> 17:24.000 You know where we can find them? 17:24.000 --> 17:25.000 Look, I'm on a level with you. 17:25.000 --> 17:28.000 I know the boys. Sure, they're a lot of laughs, good spenders. 17:28.000 --> 17:30.000 That's all it is with us. 17:30.000 --> 17:31.000 We got it that you're pretty good friends. 17:31.000 --> 17:32.000 You've been talking to the landlady. 17:32.000 --> 17:34.000 She's all the time sticking her nose in where it don't belong. 17:34.000 --> 17:35.000 Is that so? 17:35.000 --> 17:36.000 Yeah. 17:36.000 --> 17:37.000 She's hacked at me anyway. 17:37.000 --> 17:39.000 Go out of her way to make trouble. 17:39.000 --> 17:40.000 All the time she'll go out of her way. 17:40.000 --> 17:41.000 And why'd she do that? 17:41.000 --> 17:42.000 She don't like me, that's why. 17:42.000 --> 17:43.000 She ain't got no reason. 17:43.000 --> 17:44.000 She just don't like me. 17:44.000 --> 17:46.000 All the time yelling about how I'm using too much laundry, 17:46.000 --> 17:48.000 how I let the water run too long, 17:48.000 --> 17:50.000 beefing about how I'm not supposed to do no cooking in the place. 17:50.000 --> 17:53.000 Plot of coffee, and she's ready to take it in front of the U.N. 17:53.000 --> 17:54.000 Mm-hmm. 17:54.000 --> 17:55.000 I told the truth. 17:55.000 --> 17:59.000 Boys and me been out a couple of times, dinner, drinks, maybe a show, that's all. 17:59.000 --> 18:01.000 Nothing serious between us. 18:01.000 --> 18:04.000 Matter of fact, they both leave me cold, romantic. 18:04.000 --> 18:06.000 Well, then you shouldn't worry about telling us where to find them. 18:06.000 --> 18:08.000 I just don't want to get mixed up in nothing. 18:08.000 --> 18:09.000 It's all there is to it. 18:09.000 --> 18:12.000 I don't want to get dragged into something I didn't build. 18:12.000 --> 18:13.000 You can see that, can't you, huh? 18:13.000 --> 18:14.000 You can see that. 18:14.000 --> 18:16.000 Where do we find them? 18:16.000 --> 18:18.000 They'll be here in 40 minutes. 18:18.000 --> 18:29.000 We put in a call to the office and told them where we were. 18:29.000 --> 18:31.000 We got out a local broadcast and an all-points bullet 18:31.000 --> 18:33.000 and asking two suspects to be picked up. 18:33.000 --> 18:34.000 5.52 p.m. 18:34.000 --> 18:36.000 We settle down to wait for the men. 18:36.000 --> 18:37.000 What am I supposed to do when they get here? 18:37.000 --> 18:38.000 Just keep out of the way. 18:38.000 --> 18:39.000 There's going to be no shooting, is there? 18:39.000 --> 18:40.000 Not unless they start it. 18:40.000 --> 18:42.000 You just don't know anymore. 18:42.000 --> 18:43.000 What's that? 18:43.000 --> 18:46.000 You go out with a guy, nothing serious, a few laughs, and you end up in trouble. 18:46.000 --> 18:48.000 Did they ever tell you what they did for a living? 18:48.000 --> 18:50.000 Ronnie mentioned something about starting a car agency. 18:50.000 --> 18:51.000 Yeah? 18:51.000 --> 18:54.000 He had some deal back east where he could get the cars cheap, 18:54.000 --> 18:56.000 then he figured on having them driven out here and selling them. 18:56.000 --> 18:58.000 He told me how him and the whale was going to clean up. 18:58.000 --> 18:59.000 Mm-hmm. 18:59.000 --> 19:01.000 Said it was the sweetest deal they ever come across. 19:01.000 --> 19:03.000 Real sweet, they said. 19:03.000 --> 19:04.000 Joe. 19:04.000 --> 19:05.000 Yeah? 19:05.000 --> 19:07.000 You better get in the other room, Miss Wells. 19:07.000 --> 19:09.000 Yeah, sure. Please, don't shoot. 19:09.000 --> 19:10.000 Go on. 19:13.000 --> 19:14.000 Go ahead. 19:19.000 --> 19:20.000 Hi, honey. 19:20.000 --> 19:22.000 Hi, Mr. Holder, right there. 19:22.000 --> 19:23.000 This is... 19:23.000 --> 19:24.000 Come on, turn around. 19:24.000 --> 19:25.000 What? 19:24.000 --> 19:25.000 Turn around. 19:25.000 --> 19:26.000 Put your hands up on that wall. 19:26.000 --> 19:27.000 Yeah. 19:27.000 --> 19:30.000 Hey, here, Joe. 38. 19:30.000 --> 19:31.000 Where'd you get this, Sabba? 19:31.000 --> 19:32.000 I don't know what you're talking about. 19:32.000 --> 19:33.000 This gun, where'd it come from? 19:33.000 --> 19:34.000 I never saw it before. 19:34.000 --> 19:35.000 It was in your coat. 19:35.000 --> 19:36.000 Well, the new creeps put it there. It ain't mine. 19:36.000 --> 19:37.000 Where's Llewellyn? 19:37.000 --> 19:38.000 Oh? 19:38.000 --> 19:39.000 Gerard Llewellyn. 19:39.000 --> 19:40.000 I never heard of him. 19:40.000 --> 19:41.000 All right, put your hands down. 19:41.000 --> 19:42.000 Now turn around now? 19:42.000 --> 19:43.000 Yeah. 19:45.000 --> 19:46.000 You guys gonna tell me what this is all about? 19:46.000 --> 19:47.000 You know more than we do. 19:47.000 --> 19:48.000 Well, I ain't gonna argue about that. 19:48.000 --> 19:49.000 Where's the whale? 19:49.000 --> 19:50.000 You guys been on the spike. 19:50.000 --> 19:52.000 I don't know what you're talking about. 19:52.000 --> 19:54.000 I'm gonna call downtown, get somebody out here. 19:54.000 --> 19:55.000 We'll take them in. 19:55.000 --> 20:00.000 Yeah. 20:00.000 --> 20:03.000 I got you, huh? 20:03.000 --> 20:05.000 You lousy bum, you finked on it. 20:05.000 --> 20:06.000 I have nothing to do with it. 20:06.000 --> 20:07.000 All right, take it easy. 20:07.000 --> 20:08.000 She told you, didn't she? 20:08.000 --> 20:09.000 Didn't she tell you where to get it? 20:09.000 --> 20:10.000 It doesn't make any difference. 20:10.000 --> 20:11.000 It does to me. 20:11.000 --> 20:13.000 All she ever wanted was a good time. 20:13.000 --> 20:14.000 All the time wanting to go to the best places. 20:14.000 --> 20:16.000 All the time with the expensive clothes. 20:16.000 --> 20:18.000 You lousy bum, that's all she is. 20:18.000 --> 20:19.000 All right, that's enough of that. 20:19.000 --> 20:20.000 You're not kidding. 20:20.000 --> 20:21.000 You're all right with me if I never saw her again. 20:21.000 --> 20:22.000 It'd be the best thing. 20:22.000 --> 20:23.000 Well, then you're gonna be happy. 20:23.000 --> 20:24.000 Huh? 20:24.000 --> 20:29.000 All right, let's move. 20:29.000 --> 20:33.000 One of the men took the steak out from the apartment. 20:33.000 --> 20:36.000 Frank and I drove down to the city hall. 20:36.000 --> 20:39.000 We called the hospital and found the wounded officer. 20:39.000 --> 20:41.000 It was 6.57 p.m. 20:41.000 --> 20:43.000 We laid out the evidence for the suspect. 20:43.000 --> 20:46.000 We checked the gun in our record section. 20:46.000 --> 20:48.000 It's the one you stole from Hector Pipp yesterday. 20:48.000 --> 20:49.000 Mistake, sir. 20:49.000 --> 20:50.000 Yeah, but we didn't make it. 20:50.000 --> 20:51.000 You got nothing to hold me on. 20:51.000 --> 20:52.000 Nothing. 20:52.000 --> 20:54.900 me or nothing. Four of the victims have seen your picture. They're willing to swear that 20:54.900 --> 20:58.260 you're one of the men who held him up. A bunch of creeps. That's all they are. The whole slew 20:58.260 --> 21:01.800 of them. Sure. Come on. Where do we pick up your partner? I keep telling you guys I haven't 21:01.800 --> 21:05.000 got any partner. I don't know what you're talking about. You want to explain the gun? I don't 21:05.000 --> 21:08.920 have to. I never saw that gun before. You guys turned it on me. That's what you say. 21:08.920 --> 21:12.800 Well, I say it ain't mine. You planted it. What about the victims? They made a mistake. 21:12.800 --> 21:16.300 It's happened before. Lots of times. You read about it all the time. Where some joker gets 21:16.300 --> 21:19.680 up in court, swears he knows some fellow guy ends up spending a couple of years for something 21:19.680 --> 21:24.920 he didn't do. All the time there's stories like that in the paper. All the time. Well, 21:24.920 --> 21:28.000 you sit there and think you're clean. We got it figured different. I don't care how you 21:28.000 --> 21:31.000 got it figured. I'm telling the story the way it happened. Now you keep talking about 21:31.000 --> 21:34.640 this fellow Whale or whatever it is. I don't know. I never heard of him. All these jobs 21:34.640 --> 21:40.840 you say I did. I don't know anything about them either. I guess. Oh yeah, well. Got a 21:40.840 --> 21:44.600 call from D. Lightning. Yeah. Picked up the gunner. The girl's apartment? Yeah. He copped 21:44.600 --> 21:51.600 out again the whole story. We're bringing him in now. OK. Well, you just heard it, Salah. 21:51.600 --> 21:57.400 How about it? You want to make a statement now? Might go easier if you tell us. Get 21:57.400 --> 22:04.400 him out of here! Grab him! Come on! Sit down there. Come on, let me out of there! Let me 22:04.400 --> 22:12.000 out! All right, now on your feet. Get up. Lousy fat slob. He just kept his mouth shut, 22:12.000 --> 22:16.200 I bet so. Just kept his big fat mouth shut. We've been all right. Him and his big mouth. 22:16.200 --> 22:20.640 Now let's go. Him and his big fat mouth. Right into the joint. That's where he's put us. 22:20.640 --> 22:24.600 Right into the joint. That's right. His idea, the whole thing. He's as full of hot air as 22:24.600 --> 22:28.240 he is. Well, I hope he's happy. Look what he did. He got me a ticket right into the 22:28.240 --> 22:41.160 joint. No. Huh? You paid your own way. The story you've just heard is true. The names 22:41.160 --> 22:46.760 were changed to protect the innocent. On October 18th, trial was held in Department 94, Superior 22:46.760 --> 23:00.200 Court of the State of California, in and for the County of Los Angeles. Ronald Evans Saba 23:00.200 --> 23:04.240 and Gerard Stephen Llewellyn were tried and convicted of robbery in the first degree, 23:04.240 --> 23:09.300 six counts, and received sentence as prescribed by law. Robbery in the first degree is punishable 23:09.300 --> 23:13.240 by imprisonment in the state penitentiary for a period of not less than five years on 23:13.240 --> 23:18.960 each count. Dragnet, the story of your police force in action is a presentation of the United 23:18.960 --> 23:41.400 States Armed Forces Radio Service. 23:41.400 --> 24:05.720 The story of your police force in action is a presentation of the United States Armed 24:05.720 --> 24:32.160 Forces Radio Service.