1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,440 Ladies and gentlemen, the story you are about to hear is true. 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,240 The names have been changed to protect the innocent. 3 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:17,240 Dragnet. 4 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:30,120 You're a detective sergeant. 5 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,120 You're assigned a robbery detail. 6 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,440 For the past three weeks, a strong arm holdup man has been terrorizing the downtown area. 7 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,440 You've got a description of the thief and a method of operation for him. 8 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,440 Your job, finding. 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,800 Dragnet. 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,160 The documented drama of an actual crime. 11 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:54,120 For the next 30 minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will 12 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,800 travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official 13 00:00:58,800 --> 00:00:59,800 police files. 14 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:05,800 From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is the story of your police force 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:06,800 in action. 16 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:12,000 It was Monday, May 3rd. 17 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 It was warm in Los Angeles. 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,840 We were working the night watch out a robbery detail. 19 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,160 My partner is Frank Smith. 20 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,760 The boss is Chief of Detective Stad Brown. 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:19,760 My name is Frank. 22 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,400 I was on the way back to the office. 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,120 It was 4.02 p.m. when I got to room 27. 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,120 Robbery. 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,120 Hi, Joe. 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,120 Hi. 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,120 Jim, how's it going? 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,120 Good. 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,120 What do you got here? 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,120 That's a new gimmick they're trying. 31 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,120 What's it do? 32 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,240 Suppose let all of us in the room hear what comes over the hotshot phone. 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,720 You mean without picking it up, huh? 34 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Yeah. 35 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:38,720 How does it work? 36 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:39,720 Well, look, I'll show you. 37 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,720 This knob here is the volume control. 38 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:47,240 You just turn it on, put the phone on it like this. 39 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,560 You have to adjust it so it gives most of what fits the earpiece. 40 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,560 That's all there is to it. 41 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,560 Where do we hear it? 42 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:54,560 Through that speaker over there. 43 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:55,560 Uh-huh. 44 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,560 We got another one hooked up in the squad room. 45 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,560 Well, we ought to be able to hear it any place then, huh? 46 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:00,560 Yeah. 47 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,960 You don't have to get up and pick up the receiver. 48 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:02,960 You can hear the whole call. 49 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:03,960 It should make a lot easier. 50 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:04,960 We're going to keep it? 51 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,960 We're just trying it out the way it looks. 52 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:07,960 We'll leave it in. 53 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:08,960 It ought to save a lot of steps. 54 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:09,960 Oh. 55 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,960 It's called a phonodeck, huh? 56 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:13,960 Yeah. 57 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:14,960 Works good. 58 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,960 A lot better than trying to juggle a phone on your shoulder and write at the same time. 59 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,960 And the desk man doesn't have to repeat what's said to everybody in the room. 60 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:21,960 All right. 61 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,960 I only got one question. 62 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:24,960 What's that? 63 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,960 Wilson and Market Street, Southeast corner, 211 and slugging. 64 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:27,960 Never mind. 65 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:28,960 I just got the answer. 66 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:29,960 Huh? 67 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:30,960 It works. 68 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:37,960 Wilson and Market Street, Southeast corner, 211 and slugging. 69 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:43,960 Frank, Jim, Austin, and I left the city hall. 70 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,160 There was no way of telling from the hotshot call if the suspect was the one we were looking 71 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,800 for or not, but either way, we had to check it out. 72 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,720 It took us three minutes to get to the scene. 73 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,440 An ambulance was in the area and they'd answered the call. 74 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,160 The attendant was giving the victim first aid. 75 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,960 She was a woman in her late 50s or early 60s. 76 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:00,960 The woman was crying. 77 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:01,960 I got the first aid. 78 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:02,960 She was crying very hard. 79 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:03,960 I was talking to somebody. 80 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:04,960 It was a woman. 81 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:05,960 I was talking to a man. 82 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:06,960 I was talking to a woman. 83 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:07,960 I was talking to a woman. 84 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:08,960 And there was this woman in her bed. 85 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:09,960 So I was thinking, I'm going to call the police. 86 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:10,960 I'm going to call the police. 87 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:11,960 I'm going to call the police. 88 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,960 All right. 89 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:13,960 Please. 90 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:14,960 Do something. 91 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:15,960 I can't stand my throat. 92 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:16,960 Please do something. 93 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:17,960 All right. 94 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:18,960 We'll talk to her? 95 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:19,960 Yeah. 96 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:20,960 Make a brief. 97 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:21,960 We got to move her in as soon as we can. 98 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:22,960 All right. 99 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:23,960 Lady, I'm a police officer. 100 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:24,960 I've got to talk to you. 101 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:25,960 Oh. 102 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:26,960 Go away. 103 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:27,960 I can't talk to anybody. 104 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:34,560 hadn't Doncs I would say this movie I use I think 105 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:40,560 a good one man. They do see 106 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:46,620 what it would like Panni I'd get done. Like 107 00:03:46,620 --> 00:03:54,060 though no. Have aakes good. But happened with me Spiritual I 108 00:03:54,060 --> 00:04:01,020 I didn't know. I think the way. I want to let him have it and then he kicked me in 109 00:04:01,020 --> 00:04:07,220 the back and I. Just 110 00:04:07,220 --> 00:04:13,500 a minute miss McFadden. Excuse me sorry no have to give 111 00:04:13,500 --> 00:04:26,900 a more. The man. Was 112 00:04:26,900 --> 00:04:35,780 he tall. About five foot eight five ten maybe. Or was he dark. Did he say anything 113 00:04:35,780 --> 00:04:44,700 to you at all no. Well you're wearing a coat. When you're wearing a coat. 114 00:04:47,420 --> 00:04:51,860 Yes ma'am. I don't know. Me and I. 115 00:04:51,860 --> 00:05:02,740 Know. My my. I mean I didn't feel it. Anymore. 116 00:05:10,820 --> 00:05:17,700 We'll take her in. What you find out Jim and he talked to 117 00:05:17,700 --> 00:05:21,660 a new boy on the corner did you see it at the beginning for the woman screen turned around so 118 00:05:21,660 --> 00:05:25,940 that I bring his knee up your back up on the sidewalk to the other look at it yeah 119 00:05:26,020 --> 00:05:30,340 so it's about down that way. But I ran after when he realized he couldn't tag him he came back call the 120 00:05:30,340 --> 00:05:35,220 ambulance how about a description gave that the other fellows they got it out. How's it 121 00:05:35,220 --> 00:05:40,740 going to you to all the way the guy will come for. Switches them always hit in the daytime now 122 00:05:40,740 --> 00:05:52,740 you know something else that old lady he's getting braver all the time. We 123 00:05:52,740 --> 00:05:56,420 talked to the witness of what he told us about the suspect it was the same person we were after 124 00:05:56,860 --> 00:06:00,860 was only one change in his method of operations that are waiting for darkness he was now hitting in 125 00:06:00,860 --> 00:06:06,020 the daylight hours during the time we spent on the case the staff office had made several runs trying 126 00:06:06,020 --> 00:06:10,540 to give us some kind of a lead everything about the suspect had been checked and rechecked special 127 00:06:10,540 --> 00:06:15,620 show up to arrange impossible suspect was shown to the victims in spite of our efforts the suspect 128 00:06:15,620 --> 00:06:20,380 continued to run free Wednesday May 5th Frank I stopped for dinner across the street from the city 129 00:06:20,380 --> 00:06:31,500 hall. The big thing now what's that mom both mom both and that they've been trying to get me 130 00:06:31,500 --> 00:06:37,660 to learn to see that on TV all of. They said the man looks sophisticated when he does it so she says 131 00:06:37,660 --> 00:06:44,660 that yeah I think it would. Would want to make me look to the kid you want me to be honest 132 00:06:45,140 --> 00:06:50,940 charge I don't think anything could do that for you. I'm glad to hear it all but I'm going to 133 00:06:50,940 --> 00:06:59,020 tell a thing keep her off my back about taking them lessons. I do I did because I don't 134 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:05,300 pretty good at Donahoe said you're going to. My partner Frank Smith is Dick Blake writes for 135 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:12,100 the L.A. Examiner. I haven't seen you for a while Frank. Want a cup of coffee No no thanks I just 136 00:07:12,100 --> 00:07:17,060 had dinner. You're looking for something special day like to get a story on the stronger man you 137 00:07:17,060 --> 00:07:21,700 fellas are after anything you can give me no you've got about all of it what about the McFadden 138 00:07:21,700 --> 00:07:25,620 woman she's going to be all right we haven't heard me I call the county hospital staff and then 139 00:07:25,620 --> 00:07:30,740 I said her legs been set to take some time to heal given her new kind of serum she's going to 140 00:07:30,740 --> 00:07:35,580 be all right though I'm not sure yet I don't know if there's any injury to her spine sure 141 00:07:35,580 --> 00:07:40,340 roughly the way this guy does business we've been getting calls for the last ten days letters the 142 00:07:40,340 --> 00:07:43,980 editor is everything you know you get in line they could be coming at us from all sides what 143 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:49,980 he got on. Well we ought to put out a mini graph answer that. Take a lot of paper is there anything 144 00:07:49,980 --> 00:07:54,180 I can have no secret most of the victims are told the same story guy comes up to start the 145 00:07:54,180 --> 00:07:59,620 conversation about a ride some place a cup of coffee anything for the victim down. First chance 146 00:07:59,620 --> 00:08:03,660 it gets he slams victim into a wall and asked for the money before the McFadden when he worked at 147 00:08:03,660 --> 00:08:09,860 night didn't you know what about his choice of victims a possible tie in there. Not that we can 148 00:08:09,860 --> 00:08:15,260 find anybody on the street is right you got description on yeah white male American around 149 00:08:15,260 --> 00:08:20,380 thirty dark hair dark eyes hundred sixty five pounds five eight five ten that's a couple of 150 00:08:20,380 --> 00:08:24,860 thousand people yeah now what about the area he's working is there anything there to make most of his 151 00:08:24,860 --> 00:08:30,300 pickups down around the plaza and what about the victims himself winning well usually look like 152 00:08:30,300 --> 00:08:34,260 the care money no not all the time last week he beat up a service man it's a very close he took 153 00:08:34,260 --> 00:08:38,380 forty four dollars from him it didn't look like he had a dime in his pocket yeah nothing about 154 00:08:38,380 --> 00:08:42,420 this guy that's a pattern that there's only one thing we can drop in the pocket he's mean the way 155 00:08:42,420 --> 00:08:45,540 it works to kick it gets out of beating up a person's got to mean more than just money to him 156 00:08:45,540 --> 00:08:51,460 yeah well one more thing how close are you outside a country mile half the divisions been on his tail 157 00:08:51,460 --> 00:08:55,460 this keeps up Metro's gonna ask for an increase in budget to hire more men we got the area covered 158 00:08:55,460 --> 00:09:01,140 like rain and he don't get wet well I gotta get back to the office write something try to take it 159 00:09:01,140 --> 00:09:05,700 easy on us when look we're on your side now thanks for the help okay see you around right so I'm 160 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:09,900 Frank thank cool yeah anything comes up let me know huh we get something you'll hear about it 161 00:09:09,900 --> 00:09:23,820 sure like to get a break on the story well we're both even there so would we. For the next week 162 00:09:23,820 --> 00:09:28,060 the patrol of the streets continued the strong arm bad it hit three more times each time the 163 00:09:28,060 --> 00:09:31,620 victim and the witnesses gave us the same description it matched the suspect we were 164 00:09:31,620 --> 00:09:38,020 looking for Thursday May 13th seven fifty two p.m. we go back to the squad room and then come in 165 00:09:38,020 --> 00:09:43,260 now take back on Hawaii how does it look no good what do you mean according to Brett and he's been 166 00:09:43,260 --> 00:09:47,340 in jail for the last two months yeah waiting for trial in Stockton what does it say what he fell 167 00:09:47,340 --> 00:09:59,460 for armed robbery graduated I got it robbery Friday hello yeah well could you speak up I can't 168 00:09:59,460 --> 00:10:11,020 hear you yeah that's better how's that. Well what was that name again yeah well now give me your 169 00:10:11,020 --> 00:10:20,140 name no we can't do much with that. What do you got all this is an even a strong arm bad it's 170 00:10:20,140 --> 00:10:25,620 Benny Jessup what about the person called I'm not an honor yeah what do you think was one way to 171 00:10:25,620 --> 00:10:36,420 find out yeah ask many just. After we checked the name through our night Frank and I went out to 172 00:10:36,420 --> 00:10:56,620 Benny Jessup's address. Benny just. How what do you want you Benny just yeah police officers want 173 00:10:56,620 --> 00:11:01,540 to talk to you. Looking for something special couple of questions I want to ask you sure I 174 00:11:01,540 --> 00:11:06,460 got no baby cops appreciate it you keep it short I got big trouble but this cells might help. 175 00:11:06,460 --> 00:11:17,460 Now you got to hold it in bad food really. You know what's it all about you've been arrested 176 00:11:17,460 --> 00:11:22,980 just. You know look to be a lot easier and faster if I start off telling you I've been around you 177 00:11:22,980 --> 00:11:26,340 guys check the record before you came up here you know I fell once for burglary you know I'm 178 00:11:26,340 --> 00:11:30,460 free now I don't know nobody nothing let's go from there all right you got a job yeah what do you do 179 00:11:30,460 --> 00:11:38,060 I'm a candy butcher but I still can where one of the theaters downtown when you work nights name 180 00:11:38,060 --> 00:11:44,380 them Monday through Saturday what our check in at four work till eleven eleven thirty how come you're 181 00:11:44,380 --> 00:11:49,820 not there tonight I told you I'm sick how long you had the job a couple of years anybody at the 182 00:11:49,820 --> 00:11:54,580 theater to back that up when you mean well anybody else so you're there you better tell me what this 183 00:11:54,580 --> 00:11:59,300 is about I'm not hung up on anything I got no part of any action you guys are in on it comes down 184 00:11:59,300 --> 00:12:04,500 to one thing you can prove you're working every night you're clean yeah I know that now how do you 185 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:09,300 sell this candy hmm where are you in the theater when you work all over store room lobby all over 186 00:12:09,300 --> 00:12:14,420 you got a regular stand you work in the aisle stand in a lobby somebody there take tickets yeah well 187 00:12:14,420 --> 00:12:18,100 I ought to be able to tell them Jimmy tell you nothing I've been working since I got out of the 188 00:12:18,100 --> 00:12:22,100 joint you go down there and start asking a lot of questions you're going to cause a lot of trouble 189 00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:27,300 that right I will get me fired don't worry about it yeah easy to say you haven't got the job better 190 00:12:27,300 --> 00:12:32,460 call and check yeah you got a phone you see one around give me the number I don't know what you 191 00:12:32,460 --> 00:12:37,900 work there but you don't know the phone number I forgot where is the place current third and 192 00:12:37,900 --> 00:12:42,260 well or what's the manager's name you got to talk to him I look I can do it on the phone or we can 193 00:12:42,260 --> 00:12:48,740 go on down there how do you want it names Woodrum I'll take a joke if you tell me what this is about 194 00:12:48,740 --> 00:12:54,260 if it fits you'll know who turned you on me what look who tried the box job you got reason to come 195 00:12:54,260 --> 00:12:58,100 up here I don't know what you're digging for but I'm not around somebody gave you my name didn't 196 00:12:58,100 --> 00:13:02,260 they heard it who if we told you the truth you wouldn't believe it somebody I know it's hard to 197 00:13:02,260 --> 00:13:08,300 say you just need two words what's that first and last name we got a call we don't know who it was 198 00:13:08,300 --> 00:13:11,900 from person said we were looking for you and you battle up here and rousting you've got no 199 00:13:11,900 --> 00:13:17,540 rousting we had to check it out what is it burglary no well I'm home free only thing I ever fell for I 200 00:13:17,540 --> 00:13:24,300 learned about it you talk to Woodrum yeah what about my job you know my whole he's been there every 201 00:13:24,300 --> 00:13:28,380 work night for the last four months and I told you all right you're out but somebody's on your back 202 00:13:28,380 --> 00:13:33,100 nothing new I've been carrying a lot of people I guess if we'll leave it right there keep your 203 00:13:33,100 --> 00:13:39,300 nose clean thanks a lot not sure I want you on my team huh but what about my job what a woodroom 204 00:13:39,300 --> 00:13:43,780 say you got no trouble what do you mean he says take care of yourself yeah good work tomorrow night 205 00:13:43,780 --> 00:13:52,460 we'll see you're on just. I didn't tell him everything what I talked to manager on the phone 206 00:13:52,460 --> 00:13:56,820 he filmed me and you know you know the guy who called you know what about him he's an usher down 207 00:13:56,820 --> 00:14:09,300 there yeah he wants to be a candy but. Frank and I left just went downtown to talk to the theater 208 00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:13,380 manager in person he verified the fact that just a bit of work during the hours of the robberies 209 00:14:13,380 --> 00:14:18,420 other people who work in the theater with question their statements ruled out just as our suspect 210 00:14:18,420 --> 00:14:23,180 another day went by there were several strong robberies in the downtown area but none with the 211 00:14:23,180 --> 00:14:28,940 same viciousness used by our suspect Saturday May 15th Frank and I got back to the office I had 212 00:14:28,940 --> 00:14:34,260 your Frank Jim fine when you got there talk to skipper this afternoon had a meeting with 213 00:14:34,260 --> 00:14:38,500 Chief Brown you know they drew the line said we got to come up with something we got half a minute 214 00:14:38,500 --> 00:14:42,420 Metro working on it now all the streets are covered there's not much more we can do you guys got to 215 00:14:42,420 --> 00:14:48,100 make a mistake all we need is a little time skipper just cut off the supply any ideas yeah I've been 216 00:14:48,100 --> 00:14:53,820 going over take a look at this man. Most of the strong arms have been taking place in this area 217 00:14:53,820 --> 00:15:01,780 you know we've had cars here here along here and covering the alleys in here. But suppose we put 218 00:15:01,780 --> 00:15:07,580 our own men in that area on foot decoy system yeah I think we haven't tried my work some of the do 219 00:15:07,580 --> 00:15:13,740 how do we set it up guy makes most of his pickups around the plaza right and we start from there each 220 00:15:13,740 --> 00:15:18,180 night one of us walked around the streets try to pick the guy up other two following the car what's 221 00:15:18,180 --> 00:15:23,100 the captain think of the idea and talk to him yet he can't be the possibility when do we start how 222 00:15:23,100 --> 00:15:27,260 about tonight well let's go wait a minute who's going to do the walking doesn't make a lot of 223 00:15:27,260 --> 00:15:37,820 a difference how about flipping a coin I've been fine. When you didn't get 224 00:15:37,820 --> 00:15:48,940 a job I went I hope so. For the next two days the plan was carried out the thief didn't hit 225 00:15:48,940 --> 00:15:54,940 began to wonder if he quit his operation Monday May 17 while Frank and Jim Austin followed me in 226 00:15:54,940 --> 00:16:00,500 a unit one K.T.I. Actors decoy twelve forty seven AM it looked like another wasted night. 227 00:16:09,740 --> 00:16:14,220 You got a much yeah. I want to hear it. 228 00:16:17,620 --> 00:16:18,340 I don't like. 229 00:16:18,340 --> 00:16:20,220 The. 230 00:16:24,220 --> 00:16:25,700 Community I want to take. 231 00:16:30,300 --> 00:16:32,340 I thought I were you don't let me go. 232 00:16:36,500 --> 00:16:37,980 Get your hands against the wall come on. 233 00:16:37,980 --> 00:16:42,060 Move. Back. 234 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:51,140 My door show cop. Jim yeah here you go. 235 00:16:52,220 --> 00:17:00,100 I like you and down. What's 236 00:17:00,100 --> 00:17:03,140 your name why don't you find out where well we want to save time. 237 00:17:03,140 --> 00:17:11,860 Joe Schaefer what's your name fellow. What's your name you're not going to do any good 238 00:17:11,860 --> 00:17:15,620 with him what do you mean he's deaf hearing aids broken you're not getting through it all 239 00:17:15,620 --> 00:17:21,140 that's all when you tell us his name. So the two of you in this scene but I ask you 240 00:17:21,140 --> 00:17:26,220 a question you got an answer what you're telling I can't hear what you said never mind. I told 241 00:17:26,220 --> 00:17:39,340 you you wouldn't get through you got it wrong I will get through. You 242 00:17:39,340 --> 00:17:43,500 are listening to drag me the authentic story of your police force in action. 243 00:17:43,500 --> 00:17:55,740 Frank you're not going to make it the suspects of the city hall for questioning you guys 244 00:17:55,740 --> 00:17:59,420 got nothing on us you're sitting on a place all right we got your made on tonight time 245 00:17:59,420 --> 00:18:02,260 we get through will take you for at least ten more times you're going to stick to coffee 246 00:18:02,260 --> 00:18:05,660 hasn't anybody going to let me know what's going on can't you fix it things we're going 247 00:18:05,660 --> 00:18:09,860 to take in here what do you guys live big cop that's what you're going to do it the hard 248 00:18:09,860 --> 00:18:13,900 way that's how you want it you get no help from me that works both ways you're whistling 249 00:18:13,900 --> 00:18:18,980 anyway you may be got us for tonight that's all what's going on oh shut up be careful 250 00:18:18,980 --> 00:18:22,580 what you tell them you guys work alone you got a reason I think there's anybody else 251 00:18:22,580 --> 00:18:26,340 we want you to tell us you're off your rocker cop better put a button on that mouse shaper 252 00:18:26,340 --> 00:18:29,620 where you've treated people doesn't give you a soft ticket make any difference how I got 253 00:18:29,620 --> 00:18:32,660 it I'm going to write it all the way when you stick with that and see where you land 254 00:18:32,660 --> 00:18:37,220 really off your rocker isn't anybody going to tell me what's going on I take everything 255 00:18:37,220 --> 00:18:41,460 out of your pocket paper fine come on put it right there on the table. 256 00:18:48,540 --> 00:18:53,140 A lot of paper there you always carry that much money yeah how much is there I don't 257 00:18:53,620 --> 00:18:58,580 know some idea I may be three four hundred dollars you work for a living no where'd you 258 00:18:58,580 --> 00:19:03,740 get the money from a bank what you used to take it out what a gun or a pen I didn't steal 259 00:19:03,740 --> 00:19:07,300 it if that's what you're trying to build a lot of money how'd you get it my old man left 260 00:19:07,300 --> 00:19:12,300 it so you don't work at all and I don't believe in it how about him no no he doesn't work 261 00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:18,900 either what do you say about me he wants to know if you work huh he wants to know if you 262 00:19:18,900 --> 00:19:25,700 work no none of us do Giles Dave and me have incomes none of us were shut up who's Dave 263 00:19:26,580 --> 00:19:29,740 I don't know now look we're about to play in games with you you come in here like you're 264 00:19:29,740 --> 00:19:32,380 twelve feet tall and try to throw your weight around what I'm going to work something you 265 00:19:32,380 --> 00:19:37,020 realize that the better is going to be for you now how about it who is he you know come 266 00:19:37,020 --> 00:19:40,820 up with it how much you think you'll do to get you out of here what he can not it's not 267 00:19:40,820 --> 00:19:44,140 going to hold your stuff you can call it two ways easy in your know what you're going to 268 00:19:44,140 --> 00:19:51,340 be. How about it. What do you want to know this day what's his full name 269 00:19:51,620 --> 00:19:57,500 Santa was he with you in all the robberies yeah but about tonight stay on why he set up 270 00:19:57,500 --> 00:20:01,140 all the others we figured we'd pull this from my cell where they now I don't know home I 271 00:20:01,140 --> 00:20:06,500 guess where's that apartment on from that's in Hollywood yeah what's the phone number 272 00:20:07,260 --> 00:20:12,220 what are you going to do just give me the phone number will you. Hollywood nine eight 273 00:20:12,220 --> 00:20:18,660 eight four four. I'll dial if you just talk. You're going to use 274 00:20:18,660 --> 00:20:34,300 a gadget to yell might as well know listen. When 275 00:20:34,300 --> 00:20:50,000 Hollywood nine eight eight four four. When he 276 00:20:50,000 --> 00:21:05,240 answers you just talk right into that thing. Hello. 277 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:16,320 Dave yeah you just yeah yeah. Pretty good coming home right away yeah I'll go out get 278 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:21,160 some beer I should be back by the time you guys get it OK Dave see you as soon as you 279 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,240 get home we'll have a celebration yeah sure I'll tell you what I'll give the girls 280 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:31,880 a call all right to you yes fine I want to thank. You know that I always got 281 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,960 a couple of girlfriends you better stop on the way home. What for you can pick up 282 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:49,640 a couple more guys. We ran David Santel's name and description through our and I 283 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,440 and we found that he served a term at the county jail for violation of the state 284 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,120 narcotics that there was no record on either Giles Schaeffer or Sydney Remmer 285 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,880 Remmer was taken to the main jail and Frank and I along with Jim Austin and Joe 286 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,360 Schaeffer drove out the sand tells apartment was a large place in the 287 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:07,240 Hollywood area while Jim Austin stayed with the suspect Frank and I checked with 288 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,000 a man he told us that Santella left a few minutes before we got to the point. 289 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:17,840 Before this went inside. I know you want to sit down you guys sure throw muscle or 290 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:24,240 I know we've got a long way to get you. What am I supposed to do when they come 291 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,920 back to sit there and keep your mouth shut. You know it's going to be pretty 292 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,360 interesting what's that expression on your face when the judge turns his loose 293 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:37,080 will don't make book on it. When you guys never do one on a stage work and you 294 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:42,480 always live high don't you say that. You're all set. 295 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,320 Now there anything else you want to throw now cause me more trouble I'll make a 296 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,360 hole in you big enough to walk through all right all right turn around. 297 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,240 Clean but you have done you don't need those I'm not going to get any trouble 298 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,320 let's make sure I told you not to put those on me try to muscle this cop I got 299 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,840 a lawyer going to be on the carpet for this time we get through it you'll have 300 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,360 your walk in a beat so far out you'll be lucky to get home on weekend you know 301 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:12,280 you're going to make me sick to my stomach you lean on some old man or woman 302 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,200 you're strong I'm a service man you got about as much guts as an underfed worm 303 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,200 I just save it for the court on your mouth I'll let you know when I'm through 304 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,080 I'm going to tell you something you remember what happened to you tonight you 305 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,560 put it on the wire and get it around to the rest of the two bit bums that work 306 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,800 the same filthy operation you tell them every time they put the arm on an old 307 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,720 man every time they slug a service man they're never going to know it might be 308 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,200 a cop and if it's not the before of us waiting in the next doorway so before you 309 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,520 roll that next victim you think about that when you got it all off your chest 310 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,200 now no I got one more thing for you you're going to jail and we're going to 311 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,440 drop every book we got on you there's a mirror in the car on the way in you look 312 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,200 at it and smile what for be happy you still got all those teeth. 313 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,240 The story you just heard is true the names were changed to protect the innocent 314 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:03,160 on September 14th trial was held in Department 98 Superior Court of the 315 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,040 state of California in and for the county of Los Angeles 316 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:19,960 Giles Herbert Schaefer David Arthur Santel and Sidney Thomas Remmler were 317 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,480 tried and convicted of robbery on the first degree 14 counts and received 318 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,160 sentence as prescribed by law robbery in the first degree is punishable by 319 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,080 imprisonment in the state penitentiary for not less than five years on each 320 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:38,280 count because of the viciousness shown by the suspects their sentences were 321 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,920 set to run consecutively. 322 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:54,280 DRAGNET is a presentation of the United States Armed Forces radio service.