1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,640 Ladies and gentlemen, the story you are about to hear is true. 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,640 The names have been changed to protect the innocent. 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:15,640 Dragmint. 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:25,560 You're a detective sergeant. 5 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,680 You're assigned a robbery detail. 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,520 A special officer has been shot during a routine patrol. 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,320 His assailants have escaped into the city. 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,360 There's no lead to their whereabouts. 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:42,080 Your job, find them. 10 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,080 It was Saturday, May 21st. 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,080 It was warm in Los Angeles. 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,480 We were working the night, watched out for robbery detail. 13 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:48,960 My partner is Frank Smith, the boss of Chief of Detective Stad Brown. 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:49,960 My name is Fidey. 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,640 We're on our way back from the scene and it was 10 56 p.m. when we got to Georgia Street 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,640 Receiving Hospital. 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,640 Treatment room. 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,200 Is that you, doctor? 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,200 No ma'am, police officers. 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,800 The doctor said we could ask you some questions. 21 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:02,800 About the robbery? 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:03,800 Yes ma'am. 23 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:04,800 That's my partner, Frank Smith. 24 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:05,800 My name's Fidey. 25 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:06,800 Hello, Miss Montgomery. 26 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,800 You heard anything about Keith? 27 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:08,800 Is he all right? 28 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,800 The doctor's still with him. 29 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:10,800 Is he going to be all right? 30 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:11,800 We better talk to the doctor about that, I think. 31 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,800 He tried to stop the man from robbing us. 32 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,400 Tried to throw him out of the store. 33 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,400 Yes ma'am. 34 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:17,400 Now can you tell us what happened? 35 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,160 Well, I guess if the doctor said I could. 36 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,800 Well, any time you don't feel like going on, just tell us, please. 37 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:22,800 All right. 38 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,120 What time did the man come into the store? 39 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,200 About nine thirty, right around in there. 40 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,200 Yeah. 41 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,000 Keith and me were sitting in the back room playing cribbage. 42 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,640 We usually play a couple of games before we close up. 43 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,480 Especially when the business is kind of slow. 44 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,880 These two men came in. 45 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,480 Keith went out to wait on them. 46 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,480 Did you go with him? 47 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,480 No. 48 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:41,480 Wasn't any reason to. 49 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,480 Just two customers. 50 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:43,480 No reason for me to go out. 51 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,840 It looked like they came in together. 52 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,520 You could see them from where you were, huh? 53 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,520 Oh yes. 54 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,720 We had the card table set up right in the doorway of the back room. 55 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,720 All right ma'am. 56 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:52,720 So I could go on? 57 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,320 Well, Keith went out and asked them what they wanted. 58 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:55,320 Yeah. 59 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,560 One of them said he wanted a bottle of vodka. 60 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,000 Keith asked him what kind and the man said it didn't make any difference. 61 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,720 Said he wanted a hundred proof though. 62 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:02,720 Uh huh. 63 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,120 Keith got the bottle off the shelf and came back. 64 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,920 Told the man how much the bottle was and that's when the other man pulled out the knife. 65 00:02:09,920 --> 00:02:11,760 They say the second man drew the knife. 66 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:12,760 That's right. 67 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:13,760 Short fell. 68 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,680 Had this kind of knife with a spring blade where you push a button and the blade snaps 69 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:18,680 out, you know how? 70 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,680 Yes ma'am. 71 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:20,680 Did the men know you were in the back room? 72 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:21,680 They must have. 73 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,960 All they had to do was look through the door and they'd have seen me. 74 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:24,960 I wasn't trying to hide. 75 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,960 All right. 76 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:26,960 Feel like going on? 77 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:27,960 Yes. 78 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,280 The doctor gave me some kind of pill and makes me a little numb but I feel all right. 79 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,280 All right. 80 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:34,280 Please go ahead. 81 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,280 Now what happened after they pulled this knife? 82 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,800 Well the short one told Keith to give him the money. 83 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:38,800 Said it was a hold up. 84 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,800 Could you remember his exact words? 85 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,800 Oh I don't know. 86 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,760 Seems he said, all right old man this is a stick up. 87 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,240 Put all the money in the register in a paper bag and don't cause any trouble. 88 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,520 As near as I can remember that's what he said. 89 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:54,520 All right. 90 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:55,520 What happened then? 91 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,320 Well Keith told him to get out of the store. 92 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,680 Said the two of them were too young to get mixed up in that kind of foolishness. 93 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,960 Told him to get right out. 94 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,800 Little fella, the short one with the knife, grabbed Keith and told him they weren't playing 95 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,040 games but if he knew what was good for him he'd do like he was told. 96 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,320 Had the knife right at his chest. 97 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,800 Thought he was going to cut Keith. 98 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,520 That's when I came out of the back room when I thought they were going to hurt Keith. 99 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,520 All right. 100 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,520 Keith? 101 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:21,520 Yes. 102 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,560 I want to get this over and tell you what you need to know so you can catch the fella. 103 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:26,560 All right ma'am. 104 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,200 What happened when you came into the store? 105 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,080 I tried to get the men out of the place. 106 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,800 Told them that if they knew what was good for them they'd leave right then. 107 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:33,800 Uh huh. 108 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,800 Might as well have been talking to a wall. 109 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,560 They didn't pay any attention to me. 110 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:38,560 Yeah. 111 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,200 That's when I tried to get to the phone. 112 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,840 I wanted to call the police. 113 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,560 What was your husband doing at this time? 114 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,760 Standing there trying to keep from moving into the knife. 115 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,800 This short little fella had it pressed right against his chest. 116 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,800 Had the point right here. 117 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,280 Keith made any kind of a movie that had been stabbed. 118 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:59,400 When they saw me go to the phone the tall one grabbed me and hit me with his fist closed. 119 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,960 Hit me about as hard as he could. 120 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,360 As soon as he did that Keith seemed to go crazy. 121 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,800 Wrenched himself away from the one with the knife and jumped on the tall man and fought 122 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,800 him as hard as he could. 123 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,720 Terrible the way it happened. 124 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,480 The tall man hit Keith along the neck with the edge of his hand and knocked my husband 125 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:16,480 down. 126 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,920 Then the little fella jumped on him. 127 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,240 Held his knife right at his throat and told him to take the money and put it in a bag. 128 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,400 That he didn't want any more trouble or he'd kill us both. 129 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,680 All the time he had the knife right here at Keith's throat. 130 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:30,680 Your husband did what they said? 131 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,680 Yes, that's right. 132 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,360 He opened the register and gave them the money and put it in a paper bag. 133 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,880 I thought they'd leave after that but they didn't. 134 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:38,880 Only made a matter. 135 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:39,880 Why was that? 136 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:40,880 You know? 137 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:41,880 Wasn't enough money. 138 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,640 Only about thirty or thirty five dollars. 139 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,040 They said we had more in the back room and they wanted that too. 140 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,160 If Dad was to get it or they'd kill us. 141 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,640 Did you get it for them? 142 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:51,640 Yes. 143 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,360 I went back and took it out from where we hid it. 144 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,360 Handed it right over. 145 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,360 What did the doctor say about Keith? 146 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,840 He must have said something. 147 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:01,680 Frank, would you check with Dr. Sebastian and see what's going on in there? 148 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:02,680 Yeah, I will. 149 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,000 Would you go on please? 150 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,440 After they got the other money the two men left the store. 151 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,840 Put the cash in the paper bag and walked out. 152 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:15,640 Said to me to stay still for five minutes or they'd come back and kill Keith and me. 153 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,760 When did the special officer come into the store? 154 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:18,760 We didn't. 155 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:19,760 Ma'am? 156 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,040 He drove up when we were arguing with the men on the sidewalk and after they left the 157 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,040 store Keith got up and ran after them. 158 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,040 Tried to hold him. 159 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,040 Did the officer know what was going on? 160 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,040 No, not at first. 161 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,000 He thought it was just an argument. 162 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,240 When he walked up Keith tried to tell him that the store was being robbed but the tall robber 163 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,040 said it was just a personal fight. 164 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,800 Said it didn't concern anybody else but Keith and him. 165 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,240 Were you on the sidewalk at the time? 166 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,640 Yes, right beside Keith. 167 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,640 I see. 168 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,680 Robber said that Keith was just an old crackpot trying to cause trouble. 169 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,440 That the officer should forget about it. 170 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:49,440 Yeah. 171 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,400 I guess it didn't sound very good to him because he said it'd be better if Keith and the men 172 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,480 talked to a policeman. 173 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,880 That's when the tall hold up man grabbed the gun and shot. 174 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:57,880 At the officer? 175 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:58,880 Yes. 176 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,720 Grabbed the gun out of his holster and shot him in the stomach. 177 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,720 What happened then? 178 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:10,520 Smaller of the two stabbed Keith a couple of times and both of them ran down the street. 179 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:11,520 Did you see where they went? 180 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:12,520 Yes. 181 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,720 They got into a car that was parked about a half a block away. 182 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,720 Jumped into the car and left. 183 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,840 All right, Mrs. Montgomery, just a couple more questions now. 184 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:21,920 Did either of the two men use a name at any time? 185 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,400 What do you mean? 186 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,280 Well, when they were talking to each other did they use a name of any kind, do you remember? 187 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:28,280 Yes. 188 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:30,400 When they shot the officer, the big one, he did the shooting. 189 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,800 He said, come on, Hank, let's get out of here. 190 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:33,800 Like that he said it. 191 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,400 Now, is there anything outstanding about the two men that you can remember? 192 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,960 Anything that would make them easier for us to identify? 193 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,760 Oh, I can't think of anything right off. 194 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,880 Just that one was tall and the other one was short. 195 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:44,880 That's all I can think of. 196 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:45,880 About how tall, do you remember? 197 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:46,880 The big one? 198 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:47,880 Yes, ma'am. 199 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:48,880 Over six feet. 200 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,560 I'd say he was about six feet three, maybe even more. 201 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,520 Did he have any special marks or scars that you can recall? 202 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,800 No, no, nothing like that. 203 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,000 Now, how about the short one? 204 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,280 Anything that would make it easier for us to identify him? 205 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:02,280 Just his fingernails. 206 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:03,280 How do you mean? 207 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:06,000 They looked like he'd never cleaned them. 208 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 Real long and dirty, I remember that. 209 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Was there anything else? 210 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,000 No. 211 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,640 Did either of them speak with any kind of an accent, would you remember? 212 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,720 No, sounded just like anybody else. 213 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:17,720 Nothing special about him. 214 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:18,720 I see. 215 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:19,720 Joe. 216 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:20,720 Yeah, Frank? 217 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:21,720 See you, madam. 218 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:22,720 Did you find out about Keith? 219 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:23,720 Did you talk to the doctor? 220 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:24,720 I'm going to be right in to see him, if I can remember. 221 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,720 Is Keith going to be all right? 222 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:26,720 Why don't you tell me what's happened? 223 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:27,720 Try to take it easy, ma'am. 224 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:28,720 The doctor will be right in. 225 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:29,720 All right, but time to hurry, please, please. 226 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Yes, we'll do that. 227 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,720 Did you call county? 228 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,720 Yeah, they're operating on Holman. 229 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:36,720 How's he doing? 230 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,200 Well, as soon as they got the bullet out, he should make it. 231 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,200 And he's not serious. 232 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,200 What about Keith Montgomery? 233 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,200 He just died. 234 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,200 Knife wound. 235 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:56,040 The story we'd gotten from Irene Montgomery was pretty much the same as Special Officer 236 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,560 Kenneth Holman had given us. 237 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,960 Immediately after the robbery, a local in an APB had gone out on the suspect. 238 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,520 In canvassing the neighborhood, the investigating officers had found two eyewitnesses to the 239 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,120 shooting stabbing. 240 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,880 A man and a woman had been parked in an automobile directly across the street from the Montgomery 241 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:12,880 store. 242 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,560 They had been able to give us a description of the car that the suspects had driven away 243 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,920 from the scene along with the last three numbers on the license plate. 244 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,140 While Frank and I had been talking to Mrs. Montgomery, officers Benson and Herman from 245 00:08:22,140 --> 00:08:25,160 robbery detail had been going through the Department of Motor Vehicle Records looking 246 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,120 for the owner's name. 247 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,360 Information on the method of operation used in the crime 248 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,800 was sent to the stats office and the run was started. 249 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,120 The moniker file at R&I was checked for a suspect 250 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,200 with the nickname Hank, 251 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,000 who matched the description of the smaller thief. 252 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,800 The two eyewitnesses were brought into the city hall 253 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,600 to go through the mug books for a possible identification. 254 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:43,680 While Frank went to the office 255 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:46,680 to check with Benson and Herman, I worked with the witnesses. 256 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:49,960 No. 257 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,560 Uh-uh. 258 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:53,960 No, not on this page. 259 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:56,560 How about here? 260 00:08:56,560 --> 00:08:58,360 No, it doesn't seem here either. 261 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:59,360 All right. 262 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,360 Wait a minute. This fellow here, Hank. 263 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,360 This one? 264 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,560 Yeah, it's not the holdup man, 265 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:05,960 but he's got the same kind of ears. 266 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,360 Close to his head like, yeah, same kind of ears. 267 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,160 You're sure it's not the man, though? 268 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,560 Uh-uh. Just got ears like him. 269 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:14,760 All right, Mr. Steele, would you go on, please, here? 270 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:15,760 Uh-uh. 271 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:18,560 I remember those ears. 272 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:20,760 I used to go to school with a kid who had ears like that, 273 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:21,760 junior high school. 274 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,360 Yes, sir. 275 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,560 He was a mean kid. I'll never forget him. He was real mean. 276 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:28,760 I guess I thought of him for at least 15 years. 277 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,160 I'll never forget him, though. 278 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,160 Mean. 279 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,360 Yes, sir. 280 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,760 He waited for me after school once. 281 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,160 Had a big fight. I don't even know what it was about. 282 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,760 Big fight. 283 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:38,760 It really beat me up. 284 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,760 Yes, sir. 285 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,360 I'd sure like to meet him now. They had a different story. 286 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,160 Yes, sir. 287 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:44,960 Now, how about right here? 288 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,760 Do you see either of the suspects on these pages? 289 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,960 No. No picture in this book. You got another one? 290 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:50,960 Yeah, I got it. 291 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:54,960 All right. 292 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,960 Say, how many more got of these things, anyhow? 293 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,760 Quite a few. You can see them right here on the shelves. 294 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:00,960 You want me to go through all of them? 295 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,160 Well, we'd like to have you check the pictures, yes, sir. 296 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,960 It's going to take a while. 297 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,360 You and your wife are the only two people who can give us an identification. 298 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,760 Well, how about the woman who was held up? What's her name? Mrs. Holman? 299 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,760 No, Montgomery. Holman was the officer who was shot. 300 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,960 Yeah. Yeah, what about Mrs. Montgomery? Can't she tell you about the robbers? 301 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,760 She's out of the care of her doctor. Her husband died, you know. 302 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:18,760 More from being stabbed? 303 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,560 Yes, sir. That's right. 304 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:22,160 That's too bad. 305 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,160 We didn't know what it was all about, you know. 306 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:24,760 Yes, sir. 307 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,760 Again, Harry was just sitting there. All of a sudden there's this fight and a shot. 308 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:28,960 We didn't know what the craigs was. 309 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:29,760 Yes, sir. 310 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:30,960 I wonder if we can go on with the books here. 311 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,960 Oh, yeah. 312 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,360 Now, how about right here? 313 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,360 No. No, not here. 314 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,560 Say, he's mean. What'd he do? 315 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:45,560 Robbery. 316 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:48,160 Yeah. Yeah, you can tell. Look at the face. You can always tell. 317 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:49,160 Yes, sir. 318 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,160 No, I don't see him here. 319 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:55,760 Perry. 320 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,360 Sir? 321 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,160 Perry Nicholson. That's the guy's name. 322 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,960 One with the close ears or remember it now? 323 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,160 Haven't told him. 324 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,560 Fifteen years. Perry Nicholson. 325 00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:06,160 Bully. 326 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,560 Yes, sir. 327 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:09,760 If you'd like to meet old Perry now, it'd be a different story. 328 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,160 If he wanted to fight now, a whole different story. 329 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,160 Yes, sir. 330 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:13,760 Joe. 331 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:14,360 Yeah? 332 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:14,960 The holdup car. 333 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:15,360 Yeah. 334 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,960 I just found it abandoned. 335 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:28,760 Two officers in the radio unit had found the car in a parking lot at the corner of Rosemount Avenue and Waterloo. 336 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,560 When the vehicle was discovered and the similarity to the description that had been broadcast was noticed, 337 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:36,560 the car was put under surveillance and our office had been notified. 338 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:39,560 Frank and I left the city hall and drove out to the parking lot immediately. 339 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:43,360 The car was placed under surveillance again and we checked it through DMV. 340 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:48,360 We found the car was owned by an Edwin Vargas, 1879 Moss Street out in Burbank. 341 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,160 We checked the name through R&I but we found that he had no criminal record in our file. 342 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,560 We drove out to see Vargas. 343 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:57,560 While Frank covered the rear of the place, I rang the bell of the house and waited. 344 00:11:57,560 --> 00:11:58,560 Yeah? 345 00:11:58,560 --> 00:11:59,760 Like to see Mr. Vargas? 346 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,560 Well, he's not in right now. Anything I can do? 347 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:02,760 You know where he is? 348 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,760 No. I imagine he got held up downtown. Probably working late. 349 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,360 Wonder where he is if I wait for him. 350 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,360 I'm not sure. You mind telling me who you are? 351 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,560 Sorry. Police officer. My name's Friday. 352 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:13,160 What'd the cops want Ed for? 353 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,960 Might be better if we talk to him. 354 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,160 You alone? 355 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,360 Anybody else in the house ma'am? 356 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:17,960 No. 357 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,360 Your husband on a 1953 dark blue Ford sedan? 358 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:20,960 Yes. 359 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,160 You're driving it tonight, is he? 360 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,360 Well, sure. He took it to work with him this morning. 361 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,560 All right. Might be better if I waited inside, huh? 362 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:29,360 All right. Come on in. 363 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,360 I don't know what this is all about but you can bet it's some kind of mistake. 364 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,360 Ed's never had no trouble with the cops. Never. None. 365 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:36,760 Where's that door lead over here? 366 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:37,760 Bedroom. 367 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,160 What, if I take a look? 368 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:45,360 Go ahead. You ain't gonna find anything. 369 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,760 Is that over there the bathroom? 370 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:54,960 Yeah. 371 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,560 All right. Just the one bedroom. 372 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:59,060 No need for any more. Me and Ed don't have any children. 373 00:12:59,060 --> 00:13:00,160 Kitchen this way? 374 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,360 Yeah. 375 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,160 Say, if you're looking for something, maybe if you'll tell me what it is I can help you. 376 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:09,360 Just want to check the house, ma'am. 377 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:10,560 Is this all there is to the house? 378 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:12,560 I told you we don't need any more room. 379 00:13:12,560 --> 00:13:14,560 I see. 380 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:18,560 Just unlocking your back door, ma'am. My partner's out there. 381 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:22,360 Hi, Frank. 382 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:22,960 See here? 383 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:23,760 No. 384 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,160 Who is this? Another cop? 385 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,960 This is my partner, Frank Smith, and his body. 386 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:27,760 Hello. 387 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,760 Seems to me you should be able to tell me what this is all about, Mr. Friday. 388 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,360 Can you give us a description of your husband? 389 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,360 Why? 390 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,360 It might help us to get him out of trouble, maybe. 391 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,360 He's in no trouble. You got something on your back and you're trying to dump it on Ed, and it isn't gonna work. 392 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,160 You want to give us a description? 393 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:41,960 What do you want to know? 394 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,360 How tall is your husband? 395 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:44,360 Six-three. 396 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,360 How old? 397 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:46,060 Thirty-two. 398 00:13:46,060 --> 00:13:47,160 What color is his hair? 399 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,560 Kind of sandy. 400 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:51,360 Look, what is this? A third degree? What are you trying to prove with all these questions? 401 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,160 We just want to get at the truth, ma'am. 402 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,360 It's a kind of hard way to do it, if you ask me. 403 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,160 Well, I'm sorry for causing you any trouble. 404 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:57,960 You are. 405 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,160 Where does your husband work? 406 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,160 He's a salesman. 407 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,160 Who for, ma'am? 408 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,560 Insurance company downtown. 409 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:03,760 Does he usually work this late? 410 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:04,560 No, I told you that. 411 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:05,960 But you think he's at work tonight? 412 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:06,960 Yes. 413 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,760 Well, then you wouldn't mind if we called him, would you? 414 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,960 I'm not gonna have you causing him any embarrassment. 415 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,360 Don't worry about it, Miss Vargas. 416 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,560 Would you like to give us the number? 417 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:15,160 Yeah. 418 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,960 It's in the phone book. Look under emergency numbers. 419 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:18,760 You want me to call Frank? 420 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,760 Yeah, I'll do it. 421 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,960 Look, what do you think he's done? 422 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,360 Police business, ma'am. 423 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,960 I'm his wife. I got a right to know. 424 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,560 It'll be better if we talk to him, I think. 425 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:29,960 That's what you say. 426 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,160 Your husband ever been in trouble with the police before? 427 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,560 Not that I know of. 428 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:34,760 How long you lived here? 429 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:35,560 You mean in California? 430 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:36,360 That's right. 431 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,360 I was born here. 432 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:38,560 How about your husband? 433 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:39,760 He's been here a couple of years. 434 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:40,760 Where's he from? 435 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:41,760 New York State. 436 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,160 Where in New York State? 437 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,160 A little place right outside of Utica. 438 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:46,960 Ever been in trouble back there, would you know? 439 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,160 Well, if he was, he didn't say anything to me about it. 440 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,760 How long has he had the job? 441 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,160 Since the week after he came out. 442 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,160 He's a smart guy. He'd have no trouble getting work. 443 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:55,760 How about it? 444 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,360 I talked to the building superintendent. 445 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:57,960 Yeah. 446 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:04,360 He says Vargas left at 5.30 this afternoon. 447 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,560 The description of the owner of the car used in the holdup, 448 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,160 coupled with his absence, made him a prime suspect in the robbery. 449 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,960 We continued to talk to his wife. 450 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,760 She gave us some of the background on Vargas. 451 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,960 She told us that they'd only been married a little over a year, 452 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,560 and that they were still trying to pay off the debts 453 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,360 that her husband had incurred before they were married. 454 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,960 She went on to say that in the last few days, 455 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,360 he'd been depressed about their finances, 456 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,360 and on that morning, Vargas had said he'd figured a way out for them. 457 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,560 Frank called the office, and the broadcast was gotten out, 458 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,360 asking if the man be picked up and detained for questioning. 459 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,560 1.15 a.m. 460 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,960 We asked Mrs. Vargas about her husband's friends. 461 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,960 Isn't anyone Ed's real close to? 462 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,160 Well, is there one man he's with more than the others, would you know? 463 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,360 Maybe somebody he works with. 464 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,160 No. 465 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,760 Unless maybe it's Vic. 466 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,360 Ed don't have much to do with him, though. 467 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:46,360 He knows I don't care for him. 468 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,360 Don't like to hammer on. 469 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,360 Who's that man? 470 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:48,960 Vic Noble. 471 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,360 He works in the same office as Ed. 472 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,760 And what's he look like? 473 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:52,360 Oh, not much. 474 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:52,960 Little guy. 475 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,760 Kind of nondescript. 476 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,760 Never did figure out he could be a good salesman. 477 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,960 I'd never buy anything from him. 478 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,960 Honestly, it makes me nervous just to have him around. 479 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:00,360 Yes, please. 480 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:01,160 Oh, excuse me. 481 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,760 Yes, go right ahead. 482 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,360 I bet your husband, it might be better if you didn't tell him we were here. 483 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,960 All right. 484 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,160 Hello? 485 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,760 Yeah, honey, where you been? 486 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,160 What? 487 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,160 Well, do you know when? 488 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,160 Uh-huh. 489 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,160 Well, did you call the police? 490 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,960 Well, you should have called them right away. 491 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,360 Yeah, huh? 492 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,960 No, I'll drive right down and pick you up. 493 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,560 You wait right there. 494 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,560 Uh-huh. 495 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:26,960 Well, right away. 496 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,560 That's right. 497 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,160 Well, look, tell me where it is. 498 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,760 Oh, yeah, yeah, I know. 499 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,560 Turn left, yeah. 500 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:35,560 All right, I'll find it. 501 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,160 You wait right there, will you? 502 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,160 All right, goodbye. 503 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,760 Bye. 504 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:40,560 That was Ed. 505 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:41,360 Yeah. 506 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,960 You're going to have to find yourself another boy. 507 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:43,760 Ma'am. 508 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,560 Well, whatever this is, it has something to do with Ed's car, doesn't it? 509 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:47,360 That's right. 510 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,560 And then you're all wrong about Ed. 511 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:49,960 He couldn't have had anything to do with it. 512 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:50,760 What do you mean? 513 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:57,760 Ed's car was stolen tonight. 514 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,760 We got the address of the bar where Ed Vargas had called from. 515 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,760 Frank and I drove down and talked to him. 516 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,960 He told us that he'd left work and had stopped in the bar for a couple of drinks before he went home. 517 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,360 However, when he left the place, he found that his car was gone. 518 00:17:10,360 --> 00:17:14,360 He returned to the bar and spent the next several hours trying to figure out what to do. 519 00:17:14,360 --> 00:17:18,560 We talked to the bartender and he verified Vargas' statement that he'd been in the place all evening. 520 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,360 He was released from custody and allowed to return home. 521 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:24,160 Frank and I continue to talk to the bartender. 522 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,560 Got to get ready to close up pretty quick. 523 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:26,560 Just a couple more questions. 524 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,360 Will you mind if I clean up the back bar while we talk? 525 00:17:28,360 --> 00:17:29,160 No, sir, go right ahead. 526 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,360 Thanks. 527 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:32,760 What do you want to know? 528 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,560 You told us that Vargas came in about a quarter of six, is that right? 529 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:36,560 As far as I can remember, yeah. 530 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,560 I could ever take a couple of minutes on either side. 531 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:39,960 But he was here before seven. 532 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:40,560 For sure. 533 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:41,960 You meet anybody here? 534 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,060 How far is this going to go? 535 00:17:43,060 --> 00:17:43,760 What do you mean? 536 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,360 Is Watt going to find out if I tell you? 537 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:46,160 Not from us. 538 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,260 Well, Ed and the missus haven't been getting along so good lately. 539 00:17:48,260 --> 00:17:49,360 You know, been beefing a lot. 540 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:49,960 Yeah. 541 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:50,760 Ed's a funny guy. 542 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,160 He don't like no trouble at home. 543 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,760 As soon as Sarah started giving him problems, 544 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,960 he found another girl, a kid that works in his office. 545 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,460 They usually drop in here for a couple of drinks before he goes home. 546 00:17:58,460 --> 00:17:58,960 Yeah. 547 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,260 Nothing serious going on with them. 548 00:18:00,260 --> 00:18:02,160 Just they like to sit and talk. 549 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,760 Ed's all the time telling her how this wife doesn't understand them. 550 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,960 Old line, but I think he means it. 551 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,460 He was in here with a girl tonight, was he? 552 00:18:08,460 --> 00:18:09,160 Yeah. 553 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:09,960 Just like all week. 554 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,260 Every night they come in about a quarter to five, 555 00:18:12,260 --> 00:18:15,360 sit in the back booth, have a couple of martinis, and then they leave. 556 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:17,060 I think maybe Ed drops her off on the way home. 557 00:18:17,060 --> 00:18:18,160 She don't have a car. 558 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:18,660 Yeah. 559 00:18:18,660 --> 00:18:21,060 Tonight they had more than just a couple of drinks. 560 00:18:21,060 --> 00:18:23,460 I think maybe there was something wrong, you know, a little problem. 561 00:18:23,460 --> 00:18:24,460 What about? 562 00:18:24,460 --> 00:18:26,060 Look, people come in here to relax. 563 00:18:26,060 --> 00:18:27,460 They all got something on their minds. 564 00:18:27,460 --> 00:18:30,160 I make it a practice not to eavesdrop or interfere. 565 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,960 What was their problem, you know? 566 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,160 Sarah won't hear it? 567 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,360 No, we told you before. 568 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:35,860 Yeah. 569 00:18:35,860 --> 00:18:37,560 One wanted to come around here causing her beef. 570 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,260 She's jealous, you know, real jealous. 571 00:18:39,260 --> 00:18:39,860 That so? 572 00:18:39,860 --> 00:18:41,160 Oh, yeah. 573 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,660 Anyway, Ed must have told the girl that he was thinking of leaving his wife, 574 00:18:43,660 --> 00:18:45,660 because tonight she told him to do something about her, 575 00:18:45,660 --> 00:18:46,960 or she was walking out. 576 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,160 Had a little kind of tiff, and then she left. 577 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,560 After that, he went out to get the car and found it had been stolen. 578 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:52,460 Where'd he leave it, do you know? 579 00:18:52,460 --> 00:18:53,560 A lot behind the building. 580 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,760 Did he leave the keys in the car? 581 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,260 I don't know. 582 00:18:55,260 --> 00:18:56,960 You saw him when he left carrying a big load. 583 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:57,860 He don't remember. 584 00:18:57,860 --> 00:18:59,160 Probably did, though. 585 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,460 You have anybody else in here tonight that looked like Vargas? 586 00:19:01,460 --> 00:19:02,060 What do you mean? 587 00:19:02,060 --> 00:19:03,660 Well, as tall as he was, maybe. 588 00:19:03,660 --> 00:19:05,360 A lot of tall people come in here. 589 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:07,360 We understand, but were there any tonight? 590 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:08,660 A couple, yeah. 591 00:19:08,660 --> 00:19:11,360 Any of them come in with a short fellow, about five, six, or seven? 592 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:11,760 Yeah. 593 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,260 What time do they come in? 594 00:19:13,260 --> 00:19:14,260 Well, about a little after seven. 595 00:19:14,260 --> 00:19:15,360 When they leave? 596 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:17,460 I don't know, maybe 7, 30, quarter of eight. 597 00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:18,560 I'm not sure. 598 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:19,760 There's one of the tables back there. 599 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:20,860 I served them a couple of times. 600 00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:22,260 Didn't take much notice when they left. 601 00:19:22,260 --> 00:19:23,660 They paid for the drinks when I brought them. 602 00:19:23,660 --> 00:19:24,660 Left a half a buck tip. 603 00:19:24,660 --> 00:19:25,560 Took off. 604 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:26,660 They come in here regular, do they? 605 00:19:26,660 --> 00:19:28,360 Yeah, a couple times a week, maybe more. 606 00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:29,560 They usually together? 607 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,460 Oh, I've never seen them any other way except once. 608 00:19:31,460 --> 00:19:32,760 I'd rather not remember that time. 609 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:33,660 What do you mean? 610 00:19:33,660 --> 00:19:36,360 Came in here early, spent the whole night here boozing, got pretty plastered. 611 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:37,160 I had to take Nick home. 612 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,060 He couldn't make it alone. 613 00:19:38,060 --> 00:19:38,760 Which one is Nick? 614 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:39,860 The short one, little guy. 615 00:19:39,860 --> 00:19:40,760 What's he do for a living? 616 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:41,860 Nothing I ever heard of. 617 00:19:41,860 --> 00:19:45,560 Well, how's he live? 618 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:46,560 Any way he can. Always seems to have dough. 619 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,560 I think maybe some kind of gambler, something like that. 620 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,560 Always loaded. 621 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,560 The way he looks, though, you'd think he was some kind of mechanic, but he's not. 622 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:51,560 Is that right? 623 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:52,560 Sure, he dresses nice. 624 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,560 Always got a good suit on, but he doesn't know how to carry it off. 625 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,560 What do you mean? 626 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:56,560 Nice fingernails. 627 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:02,560 I don't think he ever cleans them. 628 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,560 We got complete descriptions of the two men. 629 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,560 They matched those of the thieves perfectly. 630 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:11,560 The bartender closed the place and took us down the street to a hotel where he said he'd taken Nick Roxford. 631 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,560 We talked to the desk clerk, but we found that Roxford had moved several months before. 632 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,560 By checking with some of the people in the hotel, we got a forwarding address for him. 633 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,560 It was a cheap rooming house down on South Peaco. 634 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,560 Frank and I went by the city hall and ran the name through R&I. 635 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,560 We found that Roxford had an arrest record for petty theft in ADW. 636 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,560 He'd served a term in the county jail and was present under the jurisdiction of the court. 637 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,560 His mugshot was pulled and taken out to the witnesses for identification. 638 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:40,560 We checked with the manager of the boarding house and we found that Roxford and a Henry Larson were registered in one of the rooms. 639 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,560 In the company of the manager, we went up to the room, but the pair wasn't in. 640 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,560 We contacted the office and told them where we were. 641 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,560 They told us that Roxford had been positively identified as one of the holdup men. 642 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,560 We settled down to wait for the suspects to come back. 643 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,560 3.30 a.m. 644 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,560 4.00 645 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,560 5.00 646 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,560 5.15 a.m. 647 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,560 Sounds like somebody's coming. 648 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,560 I'm sorry. 649 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,560 There was no other way. You was there. I didn't see you. 650 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,560 You're doing nothing to stop it. You shot the cop. 651 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,560 I still think so. 652 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,560 All right, hold it right there. 653 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:16,560 What are you doing here? 654 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,560 Police officers, you're under arrest. 655 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,560 Watch it, Frank. 656 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,560 All right, look out, Frank. 657 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,560 Get up. 658 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:30,560 They were kind of rough, didn't they? 659 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,560 Yeah, they did. 660 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,560 All right, come on. 661 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,560 Get up. Come on. 662 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,560 Three feet. 663 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,560 Let's take them downtown. 664 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,560 Get up. 665 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,560 All right. 666 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,560 Get up. 667 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,560 Let's take them downtown. 668 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:49,560 Yeah. 669 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,560 I better check the cuffs. Don't want them too tight. 670 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,560 No, you might hurt them, huh? 671 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,560 Two suspects were taken downtown to the interrogation room. 672 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,560 Henry Larson was handcuffed to the chair in robbery, 673 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,560 while Frank and I talked to Nick Roxford. 674 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,560 It's a bad beef. I know it. You guys are gonna find out. 675 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,560 Why don't you tell us about it? 676 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,560 Ain't got no robbery wrapped in me. 677 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:13,560 Look, we've already done it. 678 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,560 The witnesses gave us a positive identification on you. 679 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,560 How could they? They never seen me. 680 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,560 We got a picture of you that's pretty good. 681 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,560 You want to tell us about him? 682 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,560 I got nothing to say. I want a lawyer. 683 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,560 I ain't gonna talk till I see a lawyer. 684 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:25,560 All right? 685 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,560 Yeah. 686 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,560 Do you know the old man died? 687 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,560 I don't know nothing about no old man. 688 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,560 His wife says you're the one who stabbed him. 689 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:33,560 She's crazy. 690 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,560 She's willing to take you to court. 691 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,560 It'll never stick. 692 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,560 We think it will. 693 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,560 We think we can make you for first degree. 694 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,560 What about Hank? 695 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,560 Who? Larson? 696 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,560 Yeah. What happens to him? 697 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,560 Same charge. 698 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:45,560 You know it yet? 699 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,560 Well, you're the first one to hear. 700 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,560 What if I give you a hand? 701 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,560 How do you mean that? 702 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,560 Well, suppose I tell you it was Hank's idea, the whole thing. 703 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,560 Go any better with me? 704 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,560 You know we don't decide that. 705 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,560 Well, it seems like if I helped you, you'd be better with me. 706 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,560 All right. You want to tell us about it? 707 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,560 I'll make you a deal. 708 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,560 No deals. 709 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,560 Look, just promise me you won't tell Hank about this. 710 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,560 I promise. 711 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,560 Look, just promise me you won't tell Hank if I give you the real story. 712 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,560 All right. Go ahead. 713 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,560 Well, the whole thing was his idea right from the start. 714 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,560 He cased the store. The whole thing was his idea. 715 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,560 What about the car? 716 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,560 Well, that was Hank's too. He spotted it. 717 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:21,560 Said it'd make a good deal. 718 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,560 You check the car, you'll find his prints all over it. 719 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,560 All right. What happened after that at the store? 720 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,560 Well, it was Hank again. 721 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,560 I didn't want no part of it. Hank made me. 722 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,560 Said if I backed out, he'd get me. 723 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,560 He's a big man. He gets mean when he's crossed. 724 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,560 I wasn't about to give him no trouble. 725 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,560 Go ahead. 726 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:40,560 Well, we got to the place and he made me go and he made me take a piece of the action. 727 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,560 Now, wait a minute. Let's back up here and get this straight. 728 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,560 You trying to tell me all the time you wanted no part of it? 729 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,560 No. No, you got to believe it. 730 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,560 Well, the way we got it, you were having a time with a knife. 731 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,560 Well, I got scared. That's all. I got scared. I didn't know what I was doing. 732 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,560 Sure you did. 733 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,560 Look, you got to believe me. I'm telling the truth. 734 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,560 It was all Hank's idea. The whole thing. I want no part of it. Never did. 735 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,560 All right. Just keep your voice down, will you? 736 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,560 I told you now you know about the whole thing. You won't tell Hank, will you? 737 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,560 What difference does it make? 738 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,560 He finds out I told you, he'll kill me. 739 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,560 Remember I asked you before? 740 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,560 Huh? 741 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,560 What difference does it make? 742 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:23,560 Henry Taylor Larson and Nicholas John Roxford were tried and convicted of murder in the first degree. 743 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:32,560 On recommendation of the jury, they received maximum sentence and were executed in the lethal gas chamber at the State Penitentiary, San Quentin, California. 744 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:38,560 DRAGNET is a presentation of the United States Armed Forces Radio Service. 745 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,560 The United States Armed Forces Radio Service. 746 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:49,560 The United States Armed Forces Radio Service.