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It was Tuesday, August 12th. It was warm in Los Angeles. We were working the day watch out

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a homicide division, missing persons detail. My partner is Frank Smith. The boss is Captain

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Norman. My name is Friday. We were on our way out from the office and it was 1014 a.m. when we

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got to 1865 Malabar Street, manager's apartment.

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Better try it again, huh?

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Yeah.

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Just a minute, I'm moving as fast as I can.

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Sounds like she's got trouble.

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Yeah.

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Yeah?

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Mrs. Fleischer?

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Yeah, what do you want?

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Police officers, ma'am, would you like to talk to you?

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Come in, I've got to take care of that kid.

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Thank you very much.

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Nice, ma'am.

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Sit down, I'll be right back.

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All right, thank you.

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Sounds like colic to me.

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All right?

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Yeah, sounds like colic. I wonder if she's got a hot water bottle.

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What?

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Hot water bottle. Put it on the kid's stomach. Makes him feel better.

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Oh.

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Both of ours have the colic. Pour out three hot water bottles.

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On two kids?

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No, Joe. We lost the stopper on one of them.

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Baby's teething, having a rough time.

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Oh.

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This is my partner, Frank Smith. My name's Friday. We'd like to ask you some questions

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about one of your tenants.

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Oh, which one?

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Mrs. Shipley. We understand she had apartment 207?

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Yeah, she did. What about her?

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You know where we can get in touch with her?

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I ain't got any idea.

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When did you see her last?

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I guess it must have been a month ago.

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Possible you might be able to give us an exact date on it.

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Well, if I could have done that, I'd have told you right out. I got nothing to hide.

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Well, we didn't mean to say that you hadn't, ma'am.

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Well, it sounded like it. It sounded an awful lot like it. I'm going to be honest with you.

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Yes, ma'am.

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When Harriet first moved in here, we got along fine. She was all the time wanting me to tell

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her how to take care of the baby when it came.

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Yes, ma'am. Go ahead.

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Got along just fine. Used to have her a little cup of coffee in the afternoon, chummy. Then

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all of a sudden it all got different.

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Well, how was that?

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Just did. Her husband was overseas in the Army. I guess Harriet missed him pretty much.

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Anyway, she was always saying how she did.

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I wish she could be here when the baby was born. Got terrible depressed.

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I see.

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Moody, you know?

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Yes, ma'am.

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I did what I could to cheer her up. Used to go up there and we'd sit and talk. Taught

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her how to knit. Gave her some needles and yarns. A little present. I thought maybe it'd

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give her something to think about. Kind of take her mind off her and her husband. Didn't

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do no good.

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Well, how long had her husband been away, do you know?

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Four months this time. He's over in Japan, I think. Army.

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Mm-hmm.

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Harriet used to go out once in a while. Go down to the show. Seemed like just about every

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picture she saw made her sadder. I guess that's why she did it. Just got so sad she couldn't

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take it anymore.

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Oh, what's that?

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Tried to kill herself.

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As Sheppley?

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Yeah. I got the kids in bed one night and went up there. I hadn't heard nothing from

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her that day, so I went up to see how she was. Good thing I did, too. Found her right

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there in the living room. She cut her wrists. Right away I called for the doctor and all

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the ambulances and police came running around. Took her to the hospital. Big deal. Guess

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I found her in time, though. They pulled her through.

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I walk up there and find her dying. That far from death's door. And when she comes home

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from the hospital, what thanks do you think I get?

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I wouldn't know. Go ahead.

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Nothing. Not a single solitary word do I get. She's mad. Says I should have left her alone,

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let her done it. Come in here when she got back and read me off in words that I ain't

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used to hearing.

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Mm-hmm.

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I got five kids, mister. They take a lot of time and I ain't got enough to go running

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around after nobody who don't thank a person for saving their life like that. I called it

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quits right then. Right at that minute, we were no longer friends.

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Mm-hmm. When did she make the attempt on her life?

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Last September. I don't remember the date. I think it was the second, maybe the third

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week. I'm not sure about what day it was. Anyway, after I saved her life, she's mad at me.

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She have any people here in Los Angeles, would you know?

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I never heard her talking, none. She's got a sister. I don't know, but I don't know where

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she is. Don't think Harry'd ever said.

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Well, what did she say to you when she left? Did she give you any idea where she was going?

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I didn't even see her. She didn't even come by and say so long. Goodbye, take a jump,

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nothing. She just left. One night she's here, next morning she's gone.

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Did you get any mail while she was here? Yeah. Once in a while she got a letter from her

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husband. Then there was a couple of letters from San Francisco. I don't know who they

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was from. Did she take everything with her, all of

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her personal things? Nothing. Left it all here. Of course, it's

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not much, but it's all here. I see. Where are the things, ma'am?

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Downstairs, in the basement. I got it all put away in case she ever comes back. Gonna

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cost her, too. Storage and for me to pack it. I told you it isn't much. Some dresses,

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few clothes for the baby, phonograph, couple of records. That's about it. You can see

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them if you want to. We'd like to take a look at them before we

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go. Sure thing. Can't let you take them, though. I gotta collect for the storage.

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Yes, ma'am. Does Shipley have any close friends that you know of?

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Not that I know of. Of course, she might have had some down at the Dream Palace.

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Where's that? Where she worked. Dance hall downtown. She

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was kind of hostess there. That's the name of the place, is it? Dream

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Palace? Yeah. She might have had some friends down there.

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None of them ever came here, though. At least if they did, I never saw them.

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You know of any reason that she might have left in such a hurry?

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Not right off, I can't think of one. There was something wrong with her, though, when

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she came back from the hospital. You know, when she had the baby, she was worried about

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something. Would you know what it was? No. All I know

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is that when she'd been home a couple of days, she came down here and asked me to do some

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work on the apartment. I told her if she wanted anything done, she could do it herself the

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way she talked to me. What would she want done?

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The silliest thing I ever heard of. She didn't have anything to steal.

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Well. She wanted all the locks on the doors changed.

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10.46 a.m. In the company of the apartment manager, Barbara Fleischer, Frank and I went

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down to the basement and looked through the missing woman's effects. Other than the

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phonograph, several cardboard boxes of used baby clothes and cheap woman's dresses, we

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found nothing. There were no snapshots or letters to Aides in ascertaining where she

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might have gone. We asked Mrs. Fleischer to notify us in the event that she heard from

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the Shipley woman. We put in a call to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital and verified the

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story about the attempted suicide. 11.15 a.m. We checked the phone book for the address

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of the Dream Palace Dance Hall. It was on the second floor of a large building at the

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corner of 7th and Margo Streets. On the front of the building were several faded photographs

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of contest winners with the cups that they'd won and the name of the proprietor, Ernest

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Lasnik. We went upstairs. It was a large barn-like room with crepe paper birds hanging over the

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lights. In the rear of the place at one of the tables, we found Lasnik. He was just eating

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his lunch. Mr. Lasnik?

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Yeah? What do you want?

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I'd like to ask you some questions. We're police officers. My name's Smith. My partner,

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Sergeant Friday.

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Hi.

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How are you?

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I'm good.

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What about all of them? Sit down.

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Thank you.

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Care for a sandwich?

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No, thank you.

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Well, you do go right ahead. There's all the makings, bread, butter, salami, pickles.

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Help yourself.

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No, thanks, Mr. Lasnik.

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You don't mind if I go ahead, huh? Bunch of kids coming in at 3.30. I'd like to get the

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place cleaned up before they get here.

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No, sir. You go right ahead.

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All right. What do you want to see me about?

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It's about one of your employees, sir.

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Yeah? Which one?

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A girl named Harriet Shipley.

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Oh, yeah. I remember. She don't work here anymore.

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She doesn't work here anymore?

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No.

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Got any idea where she is?

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No, I got the slightest. I ain't seen Nadine in about maybe six months.

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No, sir. You don't understand. We're inquiring about a Harriet Shipley.

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Yeah, I know. I told you. I ain't seen her in six months.

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What's this about Nadine?

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It's her club name.

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Oh.

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See, lots of girls don't like to use their real names. In case the fellow wants to get

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chummy away from here, it's easier if we don't know the girl's real name, Harriet using

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Nadine.

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I understand.

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We've got a bunch of them. On one of the girl's leaves, we put the name back in a hat.

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New girl picks it. Had 14 Nadines since we opened.

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Mm-hmm.

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27 Althias.

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Yes, sir. Do you have any idea where the Shipley girl is?

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No. I might check her husband. He might know.

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We understand he was in the Army.

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Yeah, that's right. He is. Overseas. He should know where his wife is. Go ask him.

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Well, we'll probably do that, sir. We thought maybe we could turn her up ourselves. There's

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been a missing report filed on her.

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Missing, huh? Who told it?

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Sir?

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Who told about her being missing?

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The report was filed by her mother-in-law.

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Well, I wish I could help you fellas out.

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Now, the last time you saw the Shipley girl, she say anything about leaving town?

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No. Wouldn't be surprised, though.

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Why do you say that?

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Well, poor kid was scared to death. Told me she wanted to get away.

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Mm-hmm. Do you know what she was frightened about?

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Yeah. Cliff Bender. That's what she was afraid of. Cliff.

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Well, who's he?

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Well, look, I'll tell you the whole thing. Be easier that way. One favor I gotta ask

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of you.

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Yes, sir?

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You won't tell Cliff I told you. If he come up here, he could tear the place apart easy.

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You gotta promise me you won't tell him.

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All right, sir. You go ahead.

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Yeah. Well, um, Nadine, uh, Harriet. Well, she came to work for me about a year and a

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half ago. Came in, told me she had some experience in a dance place in the Midwest. I don't remember

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the name right off. Probably come to me.

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Yes, sir.

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Well, I told her I'd try her, you know, sort of probation.

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Yes, sir?

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Well, it worked out fine. End of the week, I put her on permanent. She did real well.

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Well, the guys got to coming in just to dance with her. Wouldn't have nobody else. Just

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Nadine. Or, Harriet.

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Mm-hmm.

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Well, that's how she met Cliff. He'd come in one night, fell for her, and they started

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to go together. I told him I didn't like the idea of girls going out with the customers.

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Not good business. Didn't make any difference to them, though. They kept right on seeing

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each other.

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That's this bender fellow.

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Yeah. Well, anyway, one night the soldier came in. He was took right away with Nadine.

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Asked her for a dance. Kept buying tickets all night so he could dance with her. Come

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back the next night. Same thing. All night long, he danced with Nadine.

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That's Harriet.

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Yeah, that's right. Called her Nadine. You know, I told you about her.

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Yes, sir.

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Made Cliff plenty sore, but there wasn't anything he could do about it. She wanted to be with

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a soldier. It wasn't too long before she told him he was gonna get married. Well, word got

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around about that really made Cliff hacked. Real hacked.

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Yes, sir.

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Yeah. Well, him and the soldier, Shipley, had a fight downstairs one night after we

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closed. Guess Cliff waited for him and Nadine to come down. Anyway, it was a real brawl.

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Cops and everything. Cliff really cleaned up on the soldier. Didn't do any good to him.

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What do you mean?

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Nadine told Cliff to stay away from her. Keep far away. Told him that her and the soldier

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was gonna get married and that they were through. She met Cliff and her.

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Well, the soldier and Nadine got married a couple days later and she quit her job. Right

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after that, I heard he went overseas and Cliff was around trying to break things up. Didn't

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do no good, though. Nadine loved the soldier and she planned to stay with him.

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Yes, sir.

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Well, I tried to talk to Cliff. Tell him to stay out of it. Leave the girl alone.

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What was that?

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I told him, leave the girl alone.

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I see.

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Didn't do any good. He was sure hacked. He said that she was his girl. Might take some

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time but he'd get her for running out on her. I figured he told her that, too. That's what

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she was afraid of. Don't blame her. Cliff told me that, I believe him.

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What's that, sir?

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That he was gonna kill her.

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12.26 p.m. After we'd gotten the names and addresses of the employees of the Dream Palace

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who knew the missing girl, Frank and I went back to the office. We had the names checked

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through the record bureau but we found that only one of the 14 people on the list had

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arrest records. That one was a Cliff Bender who'd been picked up on a charge of suspicion

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of burglary. However, according to the information on the report, he'd been released because

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of lack of evidence. We checked the log about the fight Lasnik had mentioned. We found that

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an F.I. card had been filed but that no arrest had been made. We went over to room 45 and

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we talked with Sergeant Egenweiler and Sergeant Rubels, the officers who'd handled the burglary

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case. They told us that in their contacts with Bender, he was sullen and uncooperative.

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They told us that he'd been seen in the company of known criminals. They also told us that

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in their opinion, they considered the man dangerous. We checked his last known address

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but we found that he'd moved in July, leaving no forwarding address. While Frank and I checked

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out the rest of the missing girl's friends and acquaintances, Sergeant Graham and Cliff

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Bailey tried to check on Bender. We talked to everybody on the list we'd gotten from

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Ernest Lasnik but none of them could give us any idea where we might find the Shipley

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girl. Most of them, however, told us about the threat that Bender had made against her

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life and expressed the opinion that he was responsible for her disappearance. The next

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day, Wednesday, August 13th, Frank and I went by communications. Then we checked back into

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the office.

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I tell you, the mother-in-law of that missing girl called again this morning?

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No, no, you didn't.

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Yeah, she wanted to know how we were doing, what progress we'd been able to make.

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Well, what'd you tell her?

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Well, I filled her in on what we found. I didn't tell her about Bender, though. I just

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said we thought we'd be able to find the girl.

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You talked to her when she made the original report, didn't you, Joe?

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Yeah.

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What'd you think?

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I thought there was something there that's a little off-base to you.

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I don't know what you're trying to get at.

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Well, it just seems to me that she doesn't care if we find her daughter-in-law or not.

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All she cares about is the kid.

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Well, yeah, I kind of got that idea myself. The way she talked, doesn't seem that she

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and the girl got along too well, does it?

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No. It just seems like there's something she isn't telling us. I don't know what it is.

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I asked her this morning if she'd heard from her son, if he knew anything about where his

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wife might be.

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What'd you say to that?

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Well, she told me she didn't want to bother him, make him worry. Wouldn't even tell me

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his mailing address. Said she didn't want him alarmed unless there was a reason.

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The way I see it, his wife being gone is reason enough.

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Yeah, that's the way it seems to me. And I told her that. She said our job was just

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to find the girl and the baby and that's all.

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Cooperation like that isn't going to make it any easier, is it? We can only do so much

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if she isn't going to help us.

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Well, it doesn't make a lot of sense. Her filing the report and then holding out information.

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I mean, I may better get over and talk to her again. See if we can get the whole story.

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How about Graham and Bailey? You heard from them?

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No, there's a note in the book. They got a lead on Bender. Graham said they were going

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to run it down for us this morning.

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All right. What time you got now?

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Uh, 9.43.

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I want to talk to the skipper. Make arrangements to put a picture of the shippley girl on Suspects

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One this afternoon. Might be able to turn something, huh?

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Sure, a lot of loose ends.

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I get it.

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Missing persons, Friday. Yeah, Graham. Where? What'd she say?

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Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, that's about the same. What? Yeah.

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Well, you want to call the crime line? Right. No, we'll meet you out there right away. Right. Bye.

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They found where Bender was living. What do you mean, what?

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Checked out last June, about the same time the shippley girl disappeared. Landlady hasn't

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seen him since. Guys came up with something else. Yeah. A couple of shirts for a baby.

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Uh-huh. Blood stains all over him.

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10.02 a.m. We got to the apartment where Bender had been living. The crew from the crime lab

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were there and they were photographing the room and the clothing that had been found.

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Sergeant J. Allen told us that he'd have to run a precipitate test on the stains before

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he could tell whether or not they were of human origin. 10.45 a.m. They finished their

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investigation on the scene and they went back to Central Station to compile the results.

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Frank called the office and the local and an APB were put out on Cliff Bender asking

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that he be picked up as a possible suspect. We also had his card flagged in the record

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bureau. We talked to the landlady of the apartment building and she told us that Bender had left

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his apartment hurriedly one night about the middle of June. She was unable to tell us

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the exact date, but she did go on to say that she'd been getting a check for the rent each

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month. We asked her if she could show us either one of the checks or an envelope that it had

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come in. She explained that she had thrown the envelopes away and had cashed the checks.

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She was unable to tell us where they'd been mailed from. She said that as far as she knew,

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she'd never seen the shippley girl in Bender's apartment. We asked her to notify us immediately

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in the event that the suspect returned. We put in a call to the bank where the rent checks

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were cashed and we asked that they give us the information on them. 1.30 p.m. Frank and

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I went over to the crime lab and we talked to J. Allen. He told us that the stains on

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the baby clothes were human blood. He showed us the photographs taken, but there was nothing

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in them that would give us any lead as to either the girls or Bender's whereabouts.

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That afternoon, the picture of Harriet Shippley was telecast over the police program. We got

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several calls from citizens who said that they'd seen the girl. We checked them all

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out. One of the callers, a bus driver, told us that he'd seen the girl and the baby on

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his bus during the month of June and that she'd gotten off in San Diego. We alerted

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the police in that city to look for her. Thursday morning, Frank and I checked into the office.

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You want to check the book, Frank, see if there's anything in San Diego? Right. I got

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it. Missing person this Friday. Yes, that's right. Yes, we did. Uh-huh. Where? You sure

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about that? Right away. Frank, get your coat. What do you got? Shippley girl. They found

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to Chesterfield. The call had come from a nurse at the State

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Mental Hospital in Camarillo. She told me that they had a patient who resembled a photograph

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of the missing girl as televised on our police program. Frank and I left the office and drove

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out to the hospital. We talked to the nurse and to the doctor who was taking care of the

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sick girl. From personal effects and the scars on her wrists, we were reasonably sure of

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the identification. The doctor told us that the girl had been committed on July 17th by

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her sister under the name Harriet Lavin. He told us that the girl was undergoing treatment

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but that there was little hope for a complete recovery and that it would be some time before

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she could be permitted to leave the violent ward. We tried to talk to her but we were

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unable to get any coherent answers. We asked about the baby but the authorities were unable

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to give us any information. We got the name and address of the sister who had committed

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the Shipley girl and we drove down to San Diego to talk to her. It was a small place

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in a wartime housing development. The paint was peeling off the plyboard walls and the

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front yard was overgrown with weeds. The woman who answered the door identified herself as

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Pauline Lavin. Sure, what do you want to know? Don't make no difference now. You go back

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and tell her it's too late. Way too late. Tell who, ma'am? Mrs. Shipley, Harriet's

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mother-in-law. You go back and tell her she done it good. Ain't nothing left to do to

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Harriet. It's all been done. You can tell her that. Well, we don't work for Mrs. Shipley,

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ma'am. We're trying to find out what happened to your sister and the baby. Who asked you

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to find out in the first place? It was her, wasn't it? Wasn't she the one? She filed

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a report. That's what I mean. Well, you go back and tell her there's nothing more she

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can do to Harriet or the baby or Big Jerry. Nothing at all she can do. Where is the baby,

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ma'am? He's not here. Do you know where he is? Yes, but I'm not going to tell you. I'm

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not going to tell anybody. I promised Harriet I wouldn't tell and I'm going to keep the

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promise. Mrs. Lavin, we don't want to hurt your sister. We're just trying to get to the

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truth. Now, maybe you better tell us what you know. You ain't doing this for old Mrs.

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Shipley. No, ma'am. All right then. I'll tell you, but not for her. I wouldn't give her

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the right time of day. She's the one that did it, the whole thing. You can lay it right

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at her feet. All right. You want to tell us about it? Since they got married, she's given

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the kids trouble. Right from the first she heard about it. Said that Harriet wasn't good

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enough for a son. Said Harriet was cheap. Didn't make any difference to the kids. They

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got married anyway. They were in love, so they got married. As soon as Big Jerry went

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overseas, she started on Harriet to get an annulment. All the time writing her letters,

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telling her how cheap she was. That if she really loved Jerry, she'd get an annulment.

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Then she found out about the baby, so she started saying how they should get a divorce.

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Does Harriet's husband know about this, would you know? Sure. All along he knew it. He didn't

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like it. Told his mother to stay out of their lives. Kept telling her, but it didn't do

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any good. None. Then Harriet got the wire. The one that told about Big Jerry being dead.

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Almost killed her. I thought it was going to. They was really in love. It isn't often

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you see something like them, too. Real love. The kind you live, not the kind you talk about.

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One night, right after she got the wire, she got a phone call from San Francisco. From

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old Miss Shipley. She told Harriet that she was going to the court to take the baby away

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from her. Said she could prove Harriet wasn't a good mother, and she didn't deserve to have

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the baby. Was Harriet living here at the time? No. She'd come down every weekend, but she

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wasn't living here. There was a guy up in L.A. that was giving her trouble. A fellow

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named Bender, I think. He was with her when she tried to kill herself. He ran out so he

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wouldn't get mixed up in it. He was always giving Harriet trouble, so she left one night

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to get away from him and old Mrs. Shipley. She came down here and said that she just wanted

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to be left alone with her baby. That's not a lot to ask, is it? Just to be left alone?

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No, ma'am. It was for old Mrs. Shipley. She just wouldn't let Harriet alone. Kept after

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her saying how she was going to take away the baby. How Harriet was an unfit mother.

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Kind of got on her mind. Finally, there wasn't much else she was thinking about but how to

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keep her baby. She went out walking one night. Took the baby with her. Rained. Rained real

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hard. I guess the baby took cold. Anyway, the next day he came down with a bad fever.

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A couple days later, he was dead. Not even a year old, and he was dead. You want to go

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to the hospital? Harriet sat around for a week. Didn't say anything. Didn't do nothing.

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Just stared at the wall. Didn't even cry. Just sat and looked at the wall. And all of

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a sudden she just fell apart. I called the doctor. Said it was a breakdown and said I

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should have her committed. I signed the papers and that's where she is. I went up to see

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her. She didn't even know me. I'm her sister and she didn't even know me. So you just tell

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Mrs. Shipley how she did good. You just tell her what she did to my sister. Tell her how

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the baby's dead and she's finally got what she wanted because now Harriet hasn't got

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the baby. Nobody's got him. Nobody's got him. Nobody. Come on, Frank. Yeah. Where

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to? We'd better get back to town. Yes, sir. See Mrs. Shipley. We got back to Los Angeles

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at 9.30 p.m. We went directly to the hotel where Mrs. Shipley was staying. The desk clerk

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told us that she left word that she was not to be disturbed. He called the room and she

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asked that we come up. We took the elevator to the seventh floor and we walked down the

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hall. Good evening, Sergeant Friday. Officer Smith, come in. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am.

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You're just having a drink. May I fix you one? No, thank you. How about you, Mr. Smith?

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No, thank you. You don't mind if I go ahead? No, ma'am. No, no. Just sit down and I'll

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be right with you. Thank you. The desk clerk said it was important. Yes, ma'am. You found

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my daughter-in-law? Yes, ma'am. And the baby? Where is he? Is he still with her? No, ma'am,

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he's not. Where is he? Your daughter-in-law is pretty sick, Mrs. Shipley. Oh? Yes, ma'am.

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She's in the state hospital up at Camarillo. Camarillo? Yes, ma'am. That's a mental hospital,

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isn't it? That's right. I'm sorry to hear about Harriet, but I knew she wasn't very

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stable. Why didn't you tell us your son was dead, Mrs. Shipley? I didn't think it had

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any bearing on the thing. What difference does it make? You don't seem to be very interested

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in this way. I'm going to be honest with you, Sergeant. I'm not. Not in the least interested

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in what she does or where she is. I never did feel she was the right girl for my son.

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Never. When the baby was born, I tried to go along with it. I tried to be nice to her

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and she wouldn't have it. She wouldn't even be friendly. She poisoned my son, turned him

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against me. She's a terrible woman. Just terrible. Whatever's happened to her is just exactly

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what she's got coming. Naturally, I'm sorry it's the way it is, but there's nothing I

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can do. All I'm interested in right now is my grandchild. I want him. And if I have to

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go to court to get him, then I'll do it that way. That won't be necessary, ma'am. Where

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is he? I'd like to go and get him now that Jerry's wife can't take care of him. He's

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dead, ma'am. If this is some kind of a joke that you're making up to help my daughter

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in law keep him, it won't work. It's no joke. It's the truth. He died in a hospital in San

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Diego. It's not right. It's not right that he's dead. She did this, Harriet. She did

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it to get even with me. I know she did. We're sorry, Miss Shipley. First my husband, then

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Jerry. I haven't got anybody. I'm all by myself. Isn't anybody in the world who cares?

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Nobody. No, we're sorry, Miss Shipley. I wish there was something we could do. No, you're

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not. You're like the rest of them. Harriet, she is the one. Nobody else to consider in

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this mess. Just her. What about the baby? The story you've just heard is true. The names

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were changed to protect the innocent. On Thursday, August 14th, a meeting was held in the office

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of the Captain of Homicide, Los Angeles Police Department. In a moment, the results of that

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had taken place and the case was officially marked closed. You have just heard Dragnet,

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a series of authentic cases from official files. Technical advice comes from the Office

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Jack Donahoe, Sergeant Marty Wynn, Sergeant Vance Brasher. Heard tonight were Ben Alexander,

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