1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,760 Ladies and gentlemen, the story you are about to hear is true. 2 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:23,120 The names have been changed to protect the innocent. 3 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,160 Your detective sergeant, you're assigned to homicide detail. 4 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,360 An elderly woman in your city has disappeared. 5 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,800 There's no lead to where she's gone or why she left. 6 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:40,320 Your job, find her. 7 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,320 It was Wednesday, July 14th. 8 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,320 It was hot in Los Angeles. 9 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:43,320 We were working the day. 10 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,320 Watch out for homicide detail. 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,320 My partner is Frank Smith. 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,320 The boss is Captain Warman. 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,320 My name is Friday. 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:52,920 We were on our way out from the office and it was 9.47 a.m. when we got to 654 Kenmore 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:53,920 Avenue. 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:54,920 Yes? 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:55,920 Miss Crocker? 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:56,920 It's Miss Crocker, but I'm her. 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:57,920 Police officer. 20 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:58,920 Oh, yes, come in. 21 00:00:58,920 --> 00:00:59,920 Thank you. 22 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:00,920 This is my partner, Frank Smith. 23 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,920 My name's Friday. 24 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:02,920 How you doing, ma'am? 25 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:03,920 Oh, just sit down there on the couch. 26 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:04,920 Move that ass in. 27 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:05,920 I was laying down when you got here. 28 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:06,920 Terrible thing. 29 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:07,920 I just know it. 30 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,920 Yes, ma'am. 31 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:09,920 If you tell us about it, please. 32 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:10,920 You bet I will. 33 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:11,920 First off, can I get you something? 34 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:12,920 Maybe a cup of coffee, a little piece of cinnamon toast. 35 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:13,920 No, thank you, ma'am. 36 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:14,920 Okay. 37 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:15,920 You change your mind. 38 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,920 You just let me know. 39 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:17,920 Yes, we will. 40 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:18,920 Now, if you just tell us about Ms. Gillespie, please. 41 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:19,920 Yes, ma'am. 42 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:26,920 Are you a friend of Mrs. Gillespie? 43 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:27,920 Her best. 44 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:28,920 That's why I know something's happened to her. 45 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:29,920 Uh-huh. 46 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,920 She wouldn't just take off like this without telling me. 47 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:31,920 Matter of fact, she didn't tell nobody. 48 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:32,920 Just all of a sudden she was gone. 49 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:33,920 All right. 50 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:34,920 If you'd start right at the beginning and just tell us the whole story, please. 51 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:35,920 Well, Bertha Gillespie and me have been friends for years. 52 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,920 I see. 53 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,920 Her and me have been friends for years. 54 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:38,920 I'm afraid I'll have to go. 55 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:39,920 I'll have to go. 56 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:40,920 I'll have to go. 57 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:41,920 I'm afraid I'll have to go. 58 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:42,920 I'll have to go. 59 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:43,920 I'll have to go. 60 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:44,920 I'll have to go. 61 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:45,920 I'll have to go. 62 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:46,920 I'll have to go. 63 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:47,920 I'll have to go. 64 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,460 Her and me have been friends for years, ever since her husband died and she opened up the 65 00:01:52,460 --> 00:01:53,460 tea-coffee. 66 00:01:53,460 --> 00:01:54,460 That's the little tea shop she has. 67 00:01:54,460 --> 00:01:55,460 Well, nice place. 68 00:01:55,460 --> 00:01:57,040 She's done real good with it. 69 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,120 All the ladies in the neighborhood were down there for afternoon teas, served those little 70 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,880 tiny cake rolls with a pot of tea. 71 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,000 Ladies fingers, you know? 72 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,000 Yes, ma'am. 73 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,440 Well, a couple of days ago I went down there to see Bertha. 74 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,440 You know what day that was? 75 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,440 Hmm? 76 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:11,920 I say do you know the exact date? 77 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:13,640 Oh, well now let's see. 78 00:02:13,640 --> 00:02:14,640 This is Wednesday. 79 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:17,840 I guess it must have been Saturday. 80 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,840 Yes, that's it, Saturday. 81 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,840 All right, would you like to go ahead, please? 82 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,840 Well, I went down to the tea coasters, 83 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,840 and there was a sign right on the door telling how Bertha was sick 84 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,840 and she'd gone away for a couple of days. 85 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,340 Was she in poor health? 86 00:02:30,340 --> 00:02:31,340 Bertha? 87 00:02:31,340 --> 00:02:32,340 Yes, ma'am. 88 00:02:32,340 --> 00:02:34,340 Bertha was as strong as an ox. 89 00:02:34,340 --> 00:02:35,840 Nothing wrong with her. 90 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,840 Besides, that's our only Friday night. 91 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,840 She didn't say nothing to me about being sick. 92 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,840 Not a word. 93 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:41,840 I see. 94 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,340 That's what made me figure that there was something wrong. 95 00:02:44,340 --> 00:02:47,840 For the past ten years, if there was anything on Bertha's mind, 96 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,840 she told me about it, you'd suspect she did. 97 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,340 Well, isn't it possible that she just used the pretended illness as an excuse? 98 00:02:53,340 --> 00:02:55,340 That she just went away on a trip, maybe? 99 00:02:55,340 --> 00:02:56,840 Oh, Bertha wouldn't do that. 100 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,840 Why do you say that? 101 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,840 Well, because she just wouldn't do it. 102 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,340 Not with Saturday coming up. 103 00:03:01,340 --> 00:03:03,840 There isn't anything in the world that could make Bertha leave. 104 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,340 Well, what's happening Saturday? 105 00:03:05,340 --> 00:03:06,340 Scrabble. 106 00:03:06,340 --> 00:03:07,840 The big party? 107 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:08,840 Scrabble. 108 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,340 You know, the word game. 109 00:03:10,340 --> 00:03:12,840 Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know what you mean. 110 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,840 Well, the ladies in the neighborhood have a sort of club. 111 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,340 We meet down at the cozy and play our tournaments. 112 00:03:18,340 --> 00:03:19,840 Bertha's the champion. 113 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,340 Hasn't been anybody that can beat her real good. 114 00:03:22,340 --> 00:03:23,840 You know, not regular. 115 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:24,840 Yes, ma'am. 116 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,340 That's why she wouldn't leave. 117 00:03:26,340 --> 00:03:29,340 This Saturday was her first big match outside the club. 118 00:03:29,340 --> 00:03:33,340 A woman from West Los Angeles was coming out here to challenge her. 119 00:03:33,340 --> 00:03:35,340 Bertha's been in training all week. 120 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:38,340 She wouldn't just walk out on the match. 121 00:03:38,340 --> 00:03:40,840 I'm telling you, something's wrong. 122 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,340 Was Mrs. Gillespie and your relatives here in Los Angeles? 123 00:03:43,340 --> 00:03:44,340 No. 124 00:03:44,340 --> 00:03:47,340 No, she's got some people back east. 125 00:03:47,340 --> 00:03:48,840 Mississippi, I think. 126 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,840 Possible she might have left to go see them. 127 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:51,840 I told you. 128 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,840 Not with the big match coming on. 129 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,840 Ain't nothing in the world that could keep Bertha from playing in that. 130 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,340 Nothing, and you believe it. 131 00:03:59,340 --> 00:04:00,340 Yes, ma'am. 132 00:04:00,340 --> 00:04:01,840 Does she have any men, friends? 133 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:02,840 Well, you mean romantic? 134 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,340 Yes. 135 00:04:04,340 --> 00:04:06,840 Well, there's Chester. 136 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,340 But that's not what I'd call a real romance. 137 00:04:09,340 --> 00:04:11,840 I'd go out to the movies with him once in a while. 138 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,840 Maybe he'd come over to the T.Cose even evening, 139 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,840 and they'd sit there and watch the television. 140 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,340 But there'd always be somebody else there, mostly me. 141 00:04:19,340 --> 00:04:23,340 No, no, you couldn't say that it was any kind of a romance with Chester. 142 00:04:23,340 --> 00:04:24,840 Do you have his address? 143 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:25,840 Are you going to talk to him? 144 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:26,840 Yes, we'll have to. 145 00:04:26,840 --> 00:04:28,340 It won't be any good. I already did. 146 00:04:28,340 --> 00:04:29,840 He don't know where Bertha is. 147 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:31,840 If you'll just give us the phone number of this Chester, 148 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:32,840 we'll check on your friend. 149 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:33,840 Yeah, you check. 150 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:35,840 You'll find out what I said is true. 151 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:36,840 Yes, ma'am. 152 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:39,340 I think somebody done Bertha in. 153 00:04:39,340 --> 00:04:42,340 She wouldn't just take off like this without telling me. 154 00:04:42,340 --> 00:04:44,340 Well, ma'am, did she have any enemies in the neighborhood? 155 00:04:44,340 --> 00:04:46,340 Anybody that you think might want to do her harm? 156 00:04:46,340 --> 00:04:49,840 No, not a soul, not a single one. 157 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:52,340 Isn't anyone who didn't like her. 158 00:04:52,340 --> 00:04:55,340 Well, maybe Mrs. Ruhman didn't care much for her, 159 00:04:55,340 --> 00:04:58,840 but I think that was kind of a jealous thing. 160 00:04:58,840 --> 00:04:59,840 What do you mean? 161 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:00,840 Scrabble. 162 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:01,840 What was that? 163 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:03,840 Mrs. Ruhman. Helen. 164 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:05,840 She thought she could play the game. 165 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:07,840 But then when she challenged Bertha to a match, 166 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:10,840 well, it was pretty terrible. 167 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:13,840 From 457 to 214. 168 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:15,340 Helen was pretty upset. 169 00:05:15,340 --> 00:05:17,340 She tried to make out like she was a good loser, 170 00:05:17,340 --> 00:05:19,840 you know, kind of smiles, laughs. 171 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:21,340 I could tell. 172 00:05:21,340 --> 00:05:23,340 She didn't like being skunked. 173 00:05:23,340 --> 00:05:24,340 Yes, ma'am. 174 00:05:24,340 --> 00:05:25,840 Can you think of any reason why anyone would want to harm 175 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:27,340 Miss Gillespie? 176 00:05:27,340 --> 00:05:29,840 Not right off unless it was for money. 177 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:32,840 Last time I saw her, she was carrying a lot of cash money 178 00:05:32,840 --> 00:05:33,840 around with her. 179 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:34,840 Yeah. 180 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:35,840 $1,500. 181 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:36,840 $1,500. 182 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:41,840 1033 A.M. 183 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:43,840 We put in a call to missing persons detail 184 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:45,840 and checked the name Bertha Gillespie through the file. 185 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:47,840 There had been no report filed on her, 186 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:49,840 and her name did not appear in the Gaga file. 187 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:51,340 We checked the name through RNI, 188 00:05:51,340 --> 00:05:53,840 but she had no criminal record in Los Angeles. 189 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:55,340 1047 A.M. 190 00:05:55,340 --> 00:05:57,340 We drove by the T. Cozy Restaurant. 191 00:05:57,340 --> 00:05:59,840 On the front door, attached with cellophane tape, 192 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:01,340 was a hand-lettered note reading, 193 00:06:01,340 --> 00:06:04,840 Taking a short vacation, watch for reopening. 194 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:07,840 Through the glass pane, we could see the interior of the shop. 195 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:09,840 Everything appeared to be in order. 196 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:11,340 Frank and I checked the rear of the building, 197 00:06:11,340 --> 00:06:14,340 but from what we could see, there was nothing out of line. 198 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:15,840 1128 A.M. 199 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:18,840 We put in a call to the missing woman's boyfriend, Chester Avin. 200 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:20,340 He told us that he'd talked to the Gillespie woman 201 00:06:20,340 --> 00:06:21,840 on the previous Friday night, 202 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:23,340 and she'd appeared in good spirits 203 00:06:23,340 --> 00:06:25,340 and had said nothing about leaving. 204 00:06:25,340 --> 00:06:26,840 We checked at her bank. 205 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:28,840 We found that she'd made a withdrawal from her savings account 206 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:31,340 to the amount of $2,500. 207 00:06:31,340 --> 00:06:34,340 This left a balance of over $12,000 in the savings account, 208 00:06:34,340 --> 00:06:37,340 $6,000 in the checking account. 209 00:06:37,340 --> 00:06:39,840 The manager of the branch told us that he'd spoken with Mrs. Gillespie 210 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:41,340 when she'd taken the money, 211 00:06:41,340 --> 00:06:44,340 and that she told him that she was thinking of taking a short vacation. 212 00:06:44,340 --> 00:06:47,340 We got in touch with Miss Crocker and told her what we'd found. 213 00:06:47,340 --> 00:06:50,340 We asked her if she wanted to file a missing persons report. 214 00:06:50,340 --> 00:06:51,840 She said that she'd wait until the end of the week, 215 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:53,340 and if her friend hadn't returned by then, 216 00:06:53,340 --> 00:06:56,840 that she'd come into the office. 217 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:59,340 A month passed before we heard from her again. 218 00:06:59,340 --> 00:07:01,340 On the morning of Friday, August 20th, 219 00:07:01,340 --> 00:07:04,340 she called to tell us that she still hadn't heard from Mrs. Gillespie 220 00:07:04,340 --> 00:07:06,840 and asked that we conduct a formal investigation. 221 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:09,840 She came down to the office and filled out a form 316. 222 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,340 Frank and I drove out to the restaurant to check it again. 223 00:07:12,340 --> 00:07:15,340 It was exactly as it had been when we'd last seen it. 224 00:07:15,340 --> 00:07:17,840 We tried the doors and found that they were still locked. 225 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,340 1.43 p.m. We went back to the office. 226 00:07:21,340 --> 00:07:23,340 Yes, sir. 227 00:07:23,340 --> 00:07:25,340 Well, that's kind of high, isn't it? 228 00:07:25,340 --> 00:07:26,840 Yes. 229 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,840 Well, did your people check into it? 230 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,840 I see. 231 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,340 Well, thank you, Mr. Jones. 232 00:07:32,340 --> 00:07:35,840 If you find out anything, we'd appreciate it if you'd give us a call. 233 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,840 Right. That's Michigan 5211, extension 2521. 234 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,340 Yes, sir. 235 00:07:42,340 --> 00:07:44,840 Either Officer Frank Smith or Sergeant Joe Friday. 236 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,840 That's right. Thanks for your help. 237 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,340 Yes, indeed. Thank you. Goodbye. 238 00:07:49,340 --> 00:07:51,840 Well, that finishes up the utility calls. 239 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,340 What do you got? 240 00:07:53,340 --> 00:07:56,840 The phone bill for the past 30 days is just the service charge, no toll calls. 241 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,840 Same with the electric lights. 242 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,840 Did they receive payment in the last month today? 243 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,840 No. Telephone company says they haven't been paid in over 60 days. 244 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,840 Says they've sent a couple of reminders. 245 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,840 The only reason they haven't cut off the service is the bills have always been paid promptly in the past. 246 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,340 I see. 247 00:08:11,340 --> 00:08:12,840 I checked with their business office. 248 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,840 The girl tells me the bill usually runs around 10 bucks. 249 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,840 Possible, isn't it? The phone hasn't been used at all, huh? 250 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,340 Well, it shapes up that way. Same with the lights. 251 00:08:20,340 --> 00:08:21,840 The one thing doesn't match. 252 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:22,840 Yeah, what's that? 253 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,840 I checked with them. Normal bills, about four bucks for the place. 254 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:26,840 Yeah. 255 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,840 The last 60 days, it's been $79. 256 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,340 A lot of water in it. 257 00:08:30,340 --> 00:08:33,840 Yeah. I talked to one of the engineers at the company, a fellow named Jones. 258 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:34,840 Yeah, what'd he tell you? 259 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,840 Well, he told me there was only one thing that could cause a water jump like that. 260 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:38,840 Yeah. A water tap. 261 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:39,840 Yeah. 262 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:40,840 Running for about a month. 263 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,840 The Money 264 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,840 2.06 p.m. We called the bank where Mrs. Gillespie had her accounts. 265 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:58,840 The head cashier told us that since the date she'd withdrawn the $2,500, there's been no deposits or withdrawals made. 266 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,840 We telephoned the missing woman's friend, Mrs. Winifred Crocker. 267 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,840 From her, we got the name and address of the owner of the building where the T. Cozy Restaurant was located. 268 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,840 Frank and I signed out of the office and drove out to see him. 269 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,840 The address we'd been given was a large house in the Silver Lake District. 270 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,840 We rang the bell to the front door, but we got no answer. 271 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,840 We walked around to the back of the property to a large garage. 272 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,840 Now, Joe, if we find this guy, we can find out if she gave him some indication she was gonna leave. 273 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:26,840 Yeah. 274 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,840 Sounds like there's somebody there. 275 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:30,840 Yeah. 276 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:32,840 In here, I guess. 277 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,840 Uh-huh. Yeah? 278 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,840 We'd like to see Virgil Medina. 279 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:40,840 I'm him. What do you want? 280 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,840 Police officers. Would like to check out a few things with you if we can? 281 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:44,840 What about? 282 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,840 Oh, it might be easier if we talked inside. 283 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,840 I got no truck with the cops. I got none that I want. 284 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,840 Now you can just ask your questions from out there. 285 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:52,840 All right, sir. That's the way you want it. 286 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,840 Well, that's the way it's gonna be. Now, get your questions asked and go about your business. 287 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,840 You own a building located at 687 Kenmore Avenue. 288 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:00,840 Why? 289 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,840 Look, Mr. Medina, we're trying to conduct an investigation. We'd like to have your cooperation. 290 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,840 If you don't want to talk here, we can go downtown. 291 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:07,840 I own the building. Why? 292 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,840 You have a tenant named Bertha Gillespie? 293 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:10,840 Yes. Why? 294 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:11,840 When did you see her last? 295 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,840 Well, about a month ago, at least that. 296 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:15,840 Do you remember the exact date? 297 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,840 I don't know. It's a long time ago. 298 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,840 What's all this about Bertha anyway? What are all these questions? 299 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,840 You got something you want to know about her? Go ask her yourself. 300 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,840 Anything I can tell you that she can't? 301 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:27,840 Go talk to her. 302 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:28,840 Leave me alone. 303 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:29,840 Where did you see her last? 304 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,840 Down at the restaurant. 305 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:32,840 What time of day? 306 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,840 Night. Night time. 307 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,840 Would you try to remember what date it was? It's pretty important. 308 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,840 Wait a minute. I'll try to figure. 309 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,840 See, I guess it must have been on a Saturday night. 310 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,840 Yes, I'd say it was Saturday, the 10th of July. 311 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,840 Do you have any way of being sure that that's the date? 312 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,840 Now, look, you come around here asking questions and I've given you an answer. 313 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,840 It can take you to leave it. I got no way of being sure. 314 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,840 That's the day I think I saw her last. 315 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,840 She seem in good spirits? 316 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:00,840 What do you mean by that? 317 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,840 Well, sir, was she happy or was there something worrying her? 318 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,840 Well, she seemed happy to me. I didn't pay a lot of attention. 319 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,840 What are you cops trying to find out? 320 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,840 You come right out and tell me what you want. Maybe I'll have the answer. 321 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,840 But I haven't got time to stand around and waste time with you. 322 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,840 Now, you tell me why you're asking these questions or you can leave. 323 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,840 Mrs. Gillespie's been reported missing. We're trying to trace it. 324 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,840 Well, who done that? Who says she's missing? 325 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,840 Well, that's not the important point here. We got the report. We've got to check it out. 326 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,840 Well, whoever told you that's crazy? 327 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,840 If Bertha's gone, there's a good reason for it. 328 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,840 I guess she just finally got fed up and left town. 329 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:33,840 What do you mean? 330 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,840 She made a mint of money from that place. Regular mint. 331 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,840 She used to tell me that when she had enough, she was going to just take off and see the world. 332 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,840 Go around the whole world on a cramped steamer. 333 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,840 She told me when she signed the last lease that she thought this would be the last one. 334 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,840 Aye, she ain't missing. She's just gone. 335 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,840 Did she say anything to you about the fixtures in the place? 336 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:54,840 What do you mean? 337 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,840 You know, the furniture, all the fixtures, they belong to her, don't they? 338 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,840 Yes, I guess so. 339 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,840 Would she make any arrangements to dispose of them? 340 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:02,840 Not to me, she didn't. 341 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,840 What if you have a key to the place? 342 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:05,840 The T. Cozy? 343 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:06,840 Yes, sir. 344 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:07,840 No, I don't. 345 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,840 You own the building and you don't have a key to the restaurant? 346 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,840 Well, no, I had one, but I lost it. Never had another one made. Why? 347 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:14,840 What do you want with the key? 348 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:15,840 We want to check the premises. 349 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,840 Well, as far as I'm concerned, you've got no right to do that. 350 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,840 This belongs to Mrs. Gillespie. You've got no right to go tromping around in there. 351 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:23,840 I thought we were going to have to. 352 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,840 Then you're going to do it without my say-so. 353 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,840 All right, sir, if that's the way it's going to be. 354 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,840 I'm telling you, she ain't going to like it. 355 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,840 She ain't going to like you going in the place when she isn't there. 356 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:33,840 Well, we take that up with her. 357 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,840 Well, you better, because I'm not going to take any responsibility for it. 358 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,840 We're not asking you to, Mr. Medina. 359 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:39,840 I'll give you this, though. 360 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:40,840 Yes, sir, what's that? 361 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,840 You go nosing around, you'll probably come up with something that you ain't looking for. 362 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,840 Well, thanks for your help, Mr. Medina. 363 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,840 Don't mention it. 364 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,840 Just remember what I told you about finding trouble when you ain't looking for it. 365 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:52,840 Well, that doesn't happen often. 366 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:53,840 Huh? 367 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:54,840 We're looking for it. 368 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,840 314 p.m., Frank and I drove back to the T. Cozy Restaurant on Kenmore Avenue. 369 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,840 We checked the front door of the place. 370 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:05,840 It was locked. 371 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,840 While Frank covered one side of the building, I took the other side, looking for open windows. 372 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:12,840 How about it? 373 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:13,840 No, no luck. 374 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:14,840 Me neither. 375 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:15,840 What do we do now? 376 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,840 Well, we're going to have to try to force one of the windows in the back. 377 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:22,840 All right, come on. 378 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,840 I think maybe we can get in here. 379 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:25,840 You're going to break it? 380 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:26,840 Well, we're going to have to. 381 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:27,840 Wait a minute, Joe. 382 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:28,840 Huh? 383 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:29,840 You hear water running? 384 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,840 Sounds like it's coming from inside. 385 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:33,840 Yeah, it might be. 386 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:34,840 Now, let's get in there. 387 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,840 All right. 388 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,840 You want my gun? 389 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,840 No, I'll use the handcuffs to see if I can knock a hole in the top half of the window here. 390 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,840 Well, why don't you better use your handkerchief? 391 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:41,840 Let me borrow yours. 392 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:42,840 Here. 393 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,840 All right. 394 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,840 I'll look. 395 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:54,840 There, that does it. 396 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,840 I'll go on in and open the door. 397 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:57,840 Yeah, let me see you out in front. 398 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:04,840 All right. 399 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:05,840 Frank? 400 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:06,840 Yeah, I hear it. 401 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,840 Come on in. 402 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:10,840 See anything? 403 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,840 No, I haven't looked yet. 404 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,840 Well, this must be the living room. 405 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:16,840 Yeah. 406 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:17,840 Everything looks okay here, a little dusty. 407 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:18,840 Yeah, water's running someplace. 408 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:19,840 Wait a minute. 409 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:20,840 Yeah. 410 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:21,840 Sounds like it's coming from over there. 411 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,840 Yeah, better turn it off. 412 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:23,840 Yeah. 413 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:24,840 Better call a crime lab, huh? 414 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:25,840 Yeah, kind of a rough one, isn't it? 415 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:26,840 Yeah, looks like she put up quite a fight. 416 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:27,840 Blood stains all over the place. 417 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:28,840 Yeah, look here. 418 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:29,840 Huh? 419 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:44,840 I guess this is what killed her. 420 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:45,840 Yeah. 421 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:46,840 Butcher knife. 422 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:47,840 Beep. 423 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:59,340 From a picture in the description that we'd gotten from Winifred Crocker, we identified 424 00:14:59,340 --> 00:15:01,840 the victim as the missing woman Bertha Gillespie. 425 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,640 We put in a call for the crime lab. 426 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,840 Lee Jones and his crew came out and went over the place. 427 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,840 The rest of the restaurant seemed to be in order. 428 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,840 There was no sign of a struggle of any kind except in the bathroom where the body had 429 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:14,840 been found. 430 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:19,240 The murder weapon, the butcher knife, was dusted for prints as was the rest of the restaurant, 431 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,840 but the parcels that the crime lab came up with were worthless for classification. 432 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,840 They would be sufficient, however, for comparison if we caught the killer. 433 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,960 The search of the personal effects of the dead woman revealed no further information 434 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,240 to Aides in apprehending her killer. 435 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,840 The $2,500 that she was known to have had when she was last seen was missing. 436 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:42,120 621, the men from the crime lab finished their investigation on the scene and the coroner's 437 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,640 office was called. 438 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,400 They came out and removed the body. 439 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,520 They also locked the door and affixed the coroner's seal. 440 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,160 645 p.m. 441 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,160 Frank and I got back to our car to go down to the office. 442 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,160 Now let's go, Frank. 443 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,160 Yeah. 444 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,160 Hey, wait a minute! 445 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,160 Hold it, Frank. 446 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,160 Huh? 447 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,160 What's the little kid? 448 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:59,160 You guys the cops? 449 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,160 Yeah, son, what's the matter? 450 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,160 A lot of excitement around here, huh? 451 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,160 Yeah, that's right. 452 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,160 Something we can do for you? 453 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,160 No, I figured maybe there's something I can do for you. 454 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,160 What do you mean? 455 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,160 You know who did the murder yet? 456 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,160 Why do you say it was a murder, son? 457 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,160 I know who did it. 458 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:36,640 The working detective has learned by experience that approximately 60 percent of all homicides 459 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,320 are solved within 20 minutes after the arrival of the authorities. 460 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,000 Two things are necessary in establishing the identity of a killer. 461 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,000 Motive and opportunity. 462 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,480 In the present instance, we had the motive. 463 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,080 $2,500 that the dead woman had withdrawn from her account was missing. 464 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,400 However, a month had passed between the time the actual murder had taken place and it had 465 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,400 been discovered. 466 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,360 Ample time for the killer to cover his track. 467 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,600 Now before we could leave the scene, we had a witness who stated that he could name the 468 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:03,600 killer for us. 469 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,240 We asked the boy to get into the back seat of the police car while Frank and I questioned 470 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,240 him. 471 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,240 What's your name, son? 472 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,240 Gordon Eric. 473 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:11,240 Kids always call me Gordy. 474 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,240 Uh-huh. 475 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,240 How old are you? 476 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,240 Seven. 477 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,360 Now what's all this about you being able to tell us who killed Mrs. Gillespie? 478 00:17:17,360 --> 00:17:18,360 I can. 479 00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:19,360 Well, who was it? 480 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:20,360 Mr. Medina. 481 00:17:20,360 --> 00:17:21,360 You mean the man who owns the building? 482 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:22,360 Yeah, that's who I mean. 483 00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:23,360 Well, that's a pretty serious charge, Gordon. 484 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:24,360 Do you have any way to prove that? 485 00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:25,360 I guess I really can't prove it, but I know it's true. 486 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:26,360 Well, how do you know? 487 00:17:26,360 --> 00:17:27,360 I just know that's all. 488 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:28,360 I seen him there. 489 00:17:28,360 --> 00:17:29,360 I saw him. 490 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:30,360 I saw him. 491 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:31,360 I saw him. 492 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:32,360 I saw him. 493 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:34,020 I saw him there. 494 00:17:34,020 --> 00:17:35,720 I just seen him going in and out. 495 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,400 Well, when was this? 496 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:38,400 Three weeks ago. 497 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,400 Maybe a month. 498 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:44,920 But he used to go in and out all the time, argue with Mrs. Gillespie. 499 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:45,920 What do you mean by argument? 500 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,240 Well, Mr. Medina screamed at Mrs. Gillespie. 501 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,280 Will you ever hear any of these arguments, son? 502 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,280 Sure. 503 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,280 I'm mother's friend of Mrs. Gillespie. 504 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,360 We just live a couple of blocks away on Dewy Street. 505 00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:00,520 I play over here all the time. 506 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,280 I heard Mr. Medina yell at her and yell at her. 507 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,280 What they argue about, son? 508 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,280 Mostly about least or something. 509 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,280 Seems like Mr. Medina wants Mrs. Gillespie to move out. 510 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,280 She hit him wrong. 511 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,280 Made him pretty sore. 512 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,280 You've got to talk to him. 513 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:17,280 He'll tell you the same thing of how he used to fight with her. 514 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,280 All right, son. 515 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,280 Your mother ever hear any of these fights? 516 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,280 Sure. 517 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,280 You ask her. 518 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,280 She'll tell you the same way just like I did. 519 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,280 Okay. 520 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,280 Is she home now? 521 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,280 Should be. 522 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,280 Maybe she went out to the store or something. 523 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,280 She should be home. 524 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:29,280 Okay, son. 525 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,280 Let's go. 526 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,280 Yeah. 527 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:36,020 Guess this is about the most exciting we've had for a long time. 528 00:18:36,020 --> 00:18:37,020 Yeah? 529 00:18:37,020 --> 00:18:38,020 Her old Mrs. Gillespie. 530 00:18:38,020 --> 00:18:39,020 True nice old lady. 531 00:18:39,020 --> 00:18:40,020 Real nice. 532 00:18:40,020 --> 00:18:41,020 Wouldn't hardly eat anybody I didn't like or hardly anybody. 533 00:18:41,020 --> 00:18:42,020 How about Mr. Medina? 534 00:18:42,020 --> 00:18:43,020 7.04 p.m. 535 00:18:43,020 --> 00:18:45,560 We drove young Gordon Eric to his home and talked with his mother. 536 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,560 He verified his story about the fight. 537 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,340 He said the fight was over. 538 00:18:50,340 --> 00:18:53,760 He didn't want to talk about the fight. 539 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,760 He said he was going to be a good friend. 540 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,760 He said he wanted to talk to his mother. 541 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,760 He verified his story about the arguments between the victim and Medina. 542 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,760 She went on to say that Medina had threatened Mrs. Gillespie, saying that if she wouldn't 543 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,760 vacate the premises, he'd take care of her. 544 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:10,760 We had their statements taken. 545 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,760 And at 8.40 p.m. we went by Medina's house and asked him to accompany us downtown. 546 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,760 Finally agreed, although he was sullen and uncooperative. 547 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,760 When we got him down to the office, we checked his name to the record bureau, but we found 548 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,760 that he had no criminal record in Los Angeles. 549 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,760 His prints were rolled and sent to Holland's stall for comparison with those found on the 550 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:27,760 murder weapon. 551 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,760 While we waited for the results, we talked to him in the squad room. 552 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,760 You're going to regret this, you know that? 553 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:33,760 Yeah. 554 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,760 I'm telling you, you dragged me down here with all these questions. 555 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,760 You just wait till my lawyers get here. 556 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,760 You put a stop to all this foolishness. 557 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,760 You want to tell us what it's all about, Medina? 558 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:43,760 Tell you about what? 559 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,760 How one of my tenants got herself killed. 560 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,760 Now listen, I got property all over town, a lot of tenants. 561 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,760 I'm worried about each one of them. 562 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,760 I wouldn't have no time to do nothing else. 563 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,760 We understand you had some pretty big arguments with Mrs. Gillespie. 564 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,760 Who said that? Who told you that? 565 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:58,760 Is it true? 566 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,760 Why, it's a lie. 567 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,760 You bring the person in here who said it, and I'll tell them it's a lie right to their face. 568 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:03,760 You just bring them in here. 569 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,760 We can't do that, and you know it. 570 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:06,760 Yeah, of course you can. 571 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,760 You know why? You want me to tell you? 572 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:09,760 Go ahead, you tell me. 573 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,760 You can't show the person who said that because there ain't no such person. 574 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,760 Is there anybody in the world who says, I'll get with Bertha? 575 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:16,760 Uh-huh. 576 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:17,760 You try to get her to break her leaf with you? 577 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:18,760 That's none of your business. 578 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,760 I told you before, I'm not about to answer a lot of questions that aren't none of your concern. 579 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,760 Couple things we better set you straight on, mister. 580 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,760 You're a suspect in a murder. 581 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,760 Now, if you're smart, you're gonna realize that and give us some straight answers. 582 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,760 You just wait till my lawyer gets here. 583 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,760 He'll take care of all this, and he's gonna fix you for taking my fingerprints. 584 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,760 I still don't think he had any right to do that. No right at all. 585 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:39,760 Oh, yeah. 586 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:43,760 Commicide, Spidey. 587 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:44,760 Yeah, Harlow. 588 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:47,760 I'm in. 589 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,760 All right. Thank you. 590 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,760 You want to tell us why you killed her, Medina? 591 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,760 What are you talking about? 592 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,760 That was our fingerprint, ma'am. 593 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,760 They checked your prints against the ones we found on the murder night. 594 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:58,760 They matched perfectly. 595 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,760 Hmm. You sure, Harvey? 596 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:03,760 Yeah, sure. 597 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:05,760 All right. 598 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:07,760 I didn't mean to do it. 599 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,760 I really didn't mean to, Arthur. 600 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,760 Just all of a sudden, I got so mad. 601 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,760 I was standing there smiling. 602 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:15,760 You should have known this. 603 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,760 You had a way of smiling at you, and you knew that you were gonna get killed. 604 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,760 You had a way of smiling at you, and you knew that there wasn't anything that you could do. 605 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,760 You just stand there smiling. 606 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:24,760 I didn't mean to kill her, though. 607 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,760 You've got to believe that I didn't mean to kill her. 608 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,760 Want to tell us how it happened? 609 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,760 Have you got a cigarette? 610 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,760 Yeah. 611 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:35,760 Here you go. 612 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:36,760 Thanks. 613 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:38,760 Here's the match. 614 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,760 I had a chance to lease the place to some other people. 615 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,760 More money. I tried to get her out. 616 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,760 Go ahead. 617 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,760 I tried to talk to her. I tried to get her to retire. 618 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,760 She had enough money. She didn't ever have to worry. 619 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,760 All I wanted her to do was to get out. 620 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:58,760 But she wouldn't. 621 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,760 He said I'd signed a lease with her, and he was gonna keep it. 622 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:06,760 How much difference was there between what she was paying and what the new people were gonna give you? 623 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:08,760 Fifty dollars a month. 624 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,760 Who killed her for that? 625 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,760 Oh, yeah, you don't understand. You've got to try. 626 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,760 This is important. If you knew better, you'd know why I did it. 627 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,760 You see, I went to her. I told her that I'd give her a lease on another piece of property. 628 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,760 I'd give it to her at less money. 629 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,760 I was trying to be fair. You can see that. 630 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,760 I wanted to be fair. 631 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,760 Well, that Saturday night, I decided to have it out with her. 632 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,760 I went over to talk. I tried to convince her. 633 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:36,760 But she wouldn't listen. 634 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,760 She just wouldn't listen. I tried everything to make her listen, but she wouldn't. 635 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,760 She just stood there and told me that she had the lease and that she was gonna keep it. 636 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,760 She just stood there with that superior smile of hers, like she knew it all. 637 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,760 Makes you want to kid her as hard as you could. 638 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,760 If you knew her, you'd see what I mean. 639 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,760 You'd see, you'd see. 640 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:57,760 You'd take the money? 641 00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:59,760 Yes. 642 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:01,760 I don't know why I did that. 643 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:09,760 Just all of a sudden, I got so mad at her, I picked up the knife and I killed her. 644 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,760 I didn't mean to be honest. I didn't. 645 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,760 As soon as I saw her, I was sorry. I was real sorry. 646 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,760 Yeah. Did you turn that water on? 647 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,760 Well, I guess so. I don't remember too good. 648 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,760 I washed my hands after I killed her. I remember that. 649 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,760 I guess I did leave the water on. I guess I did, yeah. 650 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,760 All right. Do you want to get the stenographer, Frank? 651 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:34,760 Sure. 652 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,760 You'd seen the way she thought she was so much better than anybody else, you'd know. 653 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:46,760 Is that right? 654 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:56,760 Sure. All those old hands clucking around all the time, building her up, making her feel superior, real superior. 655 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:03,760 If she'd just moved out, if she'd just let me have the place, it all would have been all right. 656 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,760 If she'd just done that. That's a lot of money, you know. 657 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,760 Fifty dollars a month. That's what I stood to make on the deal. 658 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,760 Yeah. 659 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:22,760 It was worth it, don't you think? Fifty dollars a month without turning a hand? 660 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,760 Everybody'd see you that way, wouldn't they? 661 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,760 Well, everybody'd think so. 662 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,760 Now, when you get where you're going, you're going to ask them. 663 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:46,760 The story you have just heard is true. The names were changed to protect the innocent. 664 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:53,760 On November 10th, trial was held in Department 97, Superior Court of the State of California, in and for the County of Los Angeles. 665 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,760 The story you have just heard is true. 666 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:08,760 Virgil Amal Medina was tried and convicted of murder in the second degree and received sentence as prescribed by law. 667 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:23,760 Murder in the second degree is punishable by imprisonment in the state penitentiary for a period of from five years to life.