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Dragnet, the documentary drama of an actual crime.

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For the next 30 minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will

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travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official

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police files.

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From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is the story of your police force

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in action.

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It was Monday, December 14th.

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It was cold in Los Angeles.

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We were working the day watch out of burglary detail.

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My partner's Frank Smith.

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The boss is Captain Bernard.

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My name's Friday.

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We're on our way out of the office and it was 8.05 a.m. when we got to Georgia Street

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Juvenile Bureau.

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Sergeant Lindsay Simmons' office.

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Yeah?

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Well did you give it to him?

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Uh huh.

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Yeah.

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What'd he say?

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Yeah.

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When did he come back?

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Uh huh.

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Well did he have it for you?

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Yeah.

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Well that'll teach you not to go that route anymore.

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All right Patrick, tell the sergeant to call me when he gets back.

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Right.

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Hi Friday Smith.

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Hi Lindsay.

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Morning, Sergeant.

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Just talking to Gene Patrick over at Holland Park.

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Gene home?

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Yeah, I met him a couple times.

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Picked up a youngster a couple of days ago in suspicion of burglary.

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Brought him into the office and Patrick talked to him.

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Yeah.

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Well he finally bought it that the kid didn't have anything to do with the thefts.

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He told him to go home.

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Uh huh.

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Kid told Gene he didn't have the money to get home.

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Said Gene gave him 20 cents.

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Kid swore he'd come in and pay it back.

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Did he?

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Yeah, he came in this morning.

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Gave Patrick two dimes.

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Told him thanks for believing the story.

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Uh huh.

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Then Patrick got the kicker.

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The kid really did break into a house last night to get the money.

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What's Patrick got to say about that?

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Says the kid's honest in a sort of way.

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Did pay him back.

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Where's the youngster now?

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Got him over at Holland Park juvenile.

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I better call Gene.

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Maybe I can give him a hand.

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I got a couple of street car tokens he won't be using.

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Might like to have them.

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Oh hold it.

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If I was you I don't think I'd bring it up to him for a couple of days.

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Well what can I do for you two?

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Well Lindsay, we've been working on a string of burglaries.

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You maybe got the word on them.

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I don't think so.

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What's the story?

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Bunch of store burglaries.

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Papers have tagged them.

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The milk bottle jobs.

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Oh yeah.

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Seems Hartgrover's telling me something about them the other day.

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Where do we come in?

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Well the way the jobs look we've been thinking that maybe he belonged in your department

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instead of ours.

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How do you figure that?

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First off the milk thing.

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What do you mean?

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Every job he's pulled we found an empty milk bottle on the counter.

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Okay what's that prove?

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Well milk and kids go together.

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Sure, sort of milk and ulcers.

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Maybe a thief's got the bull horrors when he gets into the store.

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No Lindsay there's another thing.

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The way he prowls the places.

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All he takes is petty cash.

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Just a couple of bucks outside.

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Candy, cigarettes, nothing big.

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Some of the places he's gone into you could open the safe with a pocket knife.

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He hasn't even made a move toward them.

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Maybe he's a kleptomaniac.

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Got a lot of them on the books.

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Maybe that's the way he gets his kicks.

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Oh it's a nice try Lindsay.

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If you know anybody that can climb through a 14 by 10 inch hole you trot them up and

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we'll talk to them.

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Okay I haven't got the names on my desk but you take a trip to Santa Anita you'll meet

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a lot of them.

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Jockeys.

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You guys know we'll go along with you on this thing.

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Anything we can do but until we're sure that there's a juvenile involved there's nothing

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we can do.

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Anything turns up we'll be sure to turn it over to you.

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Now look we're not trying to pound this thing off on you Lindsay.

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We've had the stats office make so many runs on small adults that the cards are wearing

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out.

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It just seems that none of the leads we've been chasing come out anywhere.

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We figured that maybe you could come up with some answers for us.

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Oh it's a new one on me Joe this milk bet.

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I've heard of a couple of thieves that went for it but I can't name you a juvenile off

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hand.

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I'll pass the word around the day watch see what they can come up with.

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I'll leave a note for Heartgrove he can pass it on the night watch.

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Well I appreciate anything you can do.

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No trouble.

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Been running your ragged on this huh?

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It's pretty rough.

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It's just that we can't seem to be able to come up with anything that adds.

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Yeah.

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Oh excuse me.

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Yeah.

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Georgia Street juvenile Sergeant Simmons.

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Yeah.

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Yeah they're here.

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Which one?

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Okay hang on.

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For you Joe your office.

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Thank you.

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Friday time.

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Yeah.

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Well right away what's the address?

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Uh huh.

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Yeah.

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No I got it.

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We'll leave right away.

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Who?

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Yeah call him.

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Thanks.

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Well come on let's go.

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The milk bottle kid he hit again.

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The call had come from Lieutenant Ginder in burglary.

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He told us that he'd just gotten a call from a storekeeper named Marty Darabirdis.

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The man had called to report a burglary at his store at the corner of Jackson and Broadway

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streets.

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Lieutenant Ginder told us that the crime lab had been notified and had dispatched a crew

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to investigate the premises for physical evidence.

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Frank and I left Georgia Street juvenile and we drove over to Figueroa and then we turned

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over onto Broadway.

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The store that had been broken into was a small Italian delicatessen on the southeast

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corner.

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By the time we got there the crime lab crew had already arrived and was winding up their

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investigation.

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We walked into the place and we met with Ray Pinker.

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Hi Joe.

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Frank.

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Hi Ray.

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How's it going?

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Usual thing.

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A bottle of milk on the counter.

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You want to check it over?

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Yeah.

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Come on back here.

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The thief made his entrance back here at the rear of the store.

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There it is.

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Broke out the window pane.

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Yeah.

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Not very big huh?

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Measures nine and a half or twelve and three quarters.

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No alarm on the window huh?

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Yeah you can see the wires here.

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Take a look.

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Oh yeah.

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How come the alarm didn't go off?

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I talked to the owner.

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He said he's had trouble with the alarm system the last couple of weeks.

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Called the company and asked them to fix it.

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He thought it was okay.

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I guess there's something wrong.

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Some place didn't work last night.

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What kind of alarm was it Ray?

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Outside on the building.

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You know the kind.

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Yeah.

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What'd he take this time Ray?

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Usual round of stuff.

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According to the owner there are about four cartons of cigarettes missing.

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Several boxes of candy.

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Can't be absolutely sure.

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He said he's got a check he's stocked.

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It'd be better if you talked to him on that.

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Yeah we will.

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We'll catch him later.

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Want to wait a minute?

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I'll check and see how the boys are doing on the prints.

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Have them check the counter and the milk bottle.

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Alright thanks Ray.

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Be right back.

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Ray.

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I wonder when we're going to blow the whistle on this guy.

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I don't know.

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I can't do it fast enough for me.

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Well then what do you?

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Hey Joe.

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Look at this.

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You know I'd like to get a couple of those before we leave.

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What are you talking about?

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Salami Joe.

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Those right there.

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The hard Italian kind.

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See right there?

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I remember last summer I was up in San Francisco.

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Yeah I remember.

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Went up there to pick up a prisoner.

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Remember you were collecting days off?

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Yeah I recall.

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I had a hundred of them coming.

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Yeah pretty funny.

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Anyway I met Dan Shelley up there.

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You mean the Irish tenor?

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Yeah he and I went down to Cookie's bar for lunch.

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She had some of this salami.

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Sliced it like paper.

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You could almost read through it.

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That's the way it's supposed to be.

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I know Joe.

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Anyway Cookie sliced up a bunch of it.

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Served it with cold cracked crab.

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Boy I never tasted anything so good in my life.

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Don't you ever read the newspaper through sliced salami?

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Yeah?

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Well I never have.

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Have you?

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All the time.

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Just the funnies.

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Well anyway Faye's tried to find them for me.

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Salami like this.

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Brought home all kind of things but she's never found the right kind.

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You know they'd be hard enough to pound tax with them.

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She got them home.

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Boy I never forget old Cookie and that spread.

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Well if you can get your mind off food for a minute and I know that'll be tough.

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Let's get on with this thing Joe.

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Yeah sure gotta buy some of these before we leave.

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Just like Cookie had.

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Just finished with the powder Joe.

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Yeah.

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Nothing.

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Whoever was drank the milk he took the bottle out of the refrigeration compartment.

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Bottle's sweated and there isn't a print on it we can lift.

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That's too bad.

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None of many places huh?

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No we've gone over the place from top to bottom.

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So there we can't find them.

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That's not much help is it?

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Came up with one thing maybe you can make something out of it.

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What's that?

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Outside the window in the back parking lot.

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Came up with an open package of cigarettes.

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Don't know if it belonged to the thief.

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Anything on it?

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No fog last night ruined any prints that were on it.

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Boys have got it if you want it.

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Well we'll take a look at it.

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Looks like everything's against us huh?

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Another blank.

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Don't envy you guys trying to break this one.

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Most of the time there's a leak someplace somewhere along the line the guy's gonna make

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a mistake and not cover something.

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Yeah we've been saying that for weeks.

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This is either the smartest thief I've ever seen or the luckiest.

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What's this make for him?

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Number 19.

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A lot of chances to take for nothing.

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He's not getting anything out of the jobs.

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Maybe he isn't but we are.

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What?

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Headaches.

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9.38 a.m. we talked to the victim.

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He told us that as near as he could figure there was approximately four dollars stolen

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from the store.

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He went on to say that he'd ascertained that five cartons of cigarettes and several boxes

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of candy bars were taken.

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He was unable to tell us if any other merchandise was taken until he'd made a complete inventory.

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He went on to tell us that there was over six hundred dollars in the safe but that as

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far as he could tell there had been no attempt to break into it.

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We made a canvas of the neighborhood and talked to the neighbors.

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None of them recalled having seen any suspicious people in the neighborhood the night before.

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None of them had seen any suspicious automobiles in the area.

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The one thing that was apparent was that the thief was working in a definite pattern.

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He worked only on Friday and Saturday nights.

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Always between 8 p.m. and 12 midnight.

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Frank and I met with Captain Bernard and it was decided that we would maintain a rolling

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stakeout in the area in which the suspect operated.

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Four other cars from Metro Reserves were assigned to work with us.

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For the next five nights we worked without results.

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It was slow and tedious.

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But considering the lack of information on the thief it was the only way we had left.

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We had to be on or near the scene when the thief struck again.

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Saturday night December 19th Frank and I met and drove out to the area.

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The streets were crowded with early Christmas shoppers.

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I'll sure be glad when it's over.

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Why what's the matter?

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How many rooms in your apartment Joe?

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Three, you know that.

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You've been there.

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Yeah, there won't be enough room.

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What are you talking about?

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Fay.

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What's Fay got to do with this?

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Hack Joe, real hack.

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Why what's the matter?

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I got up this morning, I felt great.

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Fay's got breakfast on the table, all nice, a couple eggs, little pig sausages, nice

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you know.

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Yeah.

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I come down to the table, she's got the food on and I hit her with it.

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What the food?

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No Joe, I hit her with what I'm about to tell her.

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I tell her I'm gonna have to work tonight.

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You worked every night this week, what's wrong with that?

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Well that's the way I figure it, so I got a way out.

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Yeah, well.

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Today is Fay's birthday.

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Well you didn't tell me.

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It's not good to tell people Joe.

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Oh it isn't.

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No, Fay's over 30.

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Yeah, I kind of figured that.

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Don't you get it?

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I'm sorry pal, you left me a couple of blocks back on this one.

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Look Fay...

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I may never catch up.

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Fay's over 30 Joe.

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She's getting to the point where she's taking off years, see?

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How can you give a person a last birthday present?

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Yeah.

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I tell you about it, you're gonna give her a present.

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Only now instead of 30, she's 29.

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You understand?

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Well to be perfectly honest with you, no.

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But as long as you do, it's perfectly all right with me.

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Yeah.

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What about this morning?

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Well, I told her I was gonna have to go to work, I got this present for her.

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Brand new deep fat fryer.

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Real good.

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What?

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Deep fat fryer, all wrapped up with ribbon.

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Beautiful, shiny, beautiful.

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So you gave it to her, did it do any good?

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Not a pound.

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You know what she does with it?

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Well at this point, I wouldn't even want to guess.

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I'm serious Joe, this may mean the end of my home.

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Go ahead.

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She doesn't even open it, just puts it in the closet on the back porch.

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Doesn't even pull the paper apart to peek at what's in it.

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Real mad Joe, she may not let me back in the house tonight.

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Well you can apologize when you get home.

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I don't know Joe, Fay's pretty sore, didn't even open the present.

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Wait a minute.

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Listen.

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Yeah, tell where it's coming from?

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Yeah, sounds like up on seven, come on.

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Yeah, right here, pull up.

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Come on.

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I'll take the front.

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All right.

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Hey, hold it up there.

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Police officers, stop or I'll shoot.

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Frank, he's coming around your way.

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Okay.

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Take it easy.

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Go ahead and shoot.

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Come on and kill me.

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Go ahead and shoot me, it doesn't matter anymore.

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Everything all right?

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Yeah.

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Just a kid Joe.

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I see.

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What are you doing in the store son?

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What do you think I'm doing?

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He asked you a question son.

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Pretty stupid.

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What do you think I was doing?

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How many stores you're broken into son?

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Figure it out for yourself.

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Look, what do you got a chip on your shoulder for?

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You're big guys.

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Don't give me a lot of conversation.

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Do what you want to do.

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All right boy, you call it.

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Come on.

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1150 PM, we called the office and told them that we had a subject in custody and that we

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were taking him to Georgia Street Juvenile Bureau.

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We put the boy in our car and we waited until a radio car arrived.

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We asked the officers to notify the owner of the store and stand by until he got there.

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We also asked that they make a 459 report.

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1150 PM, we started to take the youngster to the juvenile bureau.

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What's your name son?

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What difference does it make?

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Acting like that isn't going to help you.

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You guys picked me up remember?

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You worry about it.

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I got nothing to be afraid of.

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Oh yes you have boy.

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You could have been shot back there.

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Maybe you should have pulled a trigger.

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Look son, what's the matter with you?

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Why are you acting like this?

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You just got real lucky back there.

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That's the only reason you're alive now.

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It was dark in there.

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As far as I could tell you were an adult.

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You didn't stop when I told you to.

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Now according to the book I could have shot you.

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You know that don't you?

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Killing a kid.

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I'm not going to make you a big man.

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No I'm just bringing it up to prove a point.

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Save it.

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Now look son, I want to tell you something.

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When you break into a place at night you're not a kid anymore.

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You're asking for trouble.

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You've got both your pockets full of it.

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The way you work tonight makes us think you're mixed up in a lot more thefts than just tonight.

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Isn't that right?

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You ever been arrested before?

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No.

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Never been in trouble with the law huh?

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Sure, I'm a real criminal.

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I got a ticket once for riding my bike through a boulevard stop.

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Radio car stopped me and tagged me.

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Big deal.

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But they're going to send me to San Quentin.

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Maybe you can give me the gas chamber.

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How old are you?

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What difference does that make?

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How old are you?

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You figure it.

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Alright, you look like you're about 11 to me.

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That's what everybody thinks.

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I'll be 15 my next birthday.

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Don't kid us son.

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It's the truth, 15.

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That's what I'll be, 15.

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When were you born?

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1939, November 2nd.

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You're small for your age aren't you?

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Why do you say that?

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Aren't you?

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It's got nothing to do with it, nothing at all.

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I can do anything any other kid can do.

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Anything.

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Don't you forget that.

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What's the matter with you?

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Is that a sore point with you?

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Huh?

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Your size.

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Is that a sore point?

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I don't have any size.

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The doctor says that I'm alright.

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Just that some people aren't meant to be as big as others.

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That's all.

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There's nothing wrong with me.

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Now now come on son, what's your name?

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Now look, you know we're going to find out.

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How are you going to find out?

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We will.

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Now why don't you save us all a lot of time and tell us the truth here.

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It'd be better if you did.

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If I do tell you.

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You going to put it in the papers?

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What?

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I tell you.

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There are going to be a lot of reporters around.

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My name going to get in the papers?

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Not from us.

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Can't tell you then.

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You mean if there's no reporters around you aren't going to tell us your name?

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Is that it?

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That's the way it is.

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It's kind of funny isn't it?

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Maybe that's the way it looks to you.

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Where do you live?

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Can't tell you that either.

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Look you've got things all wrong son.

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It isn't what you want to tell us.

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That's got nothing to do with this.

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You're going to tell us what we want to know sooner or later.

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Where are we going?

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Georgia Street.

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That's where the jail is.

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Why do you ask that?

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Because I want to know.

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Yeah there's a jail there.

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Reporters?

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What?

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There are going to be reporters there.

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What's the deal with reporters in here?

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What's this all about?

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Reporters put your name in the papers don't they?

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Sometimes.

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Well you get the reporters all lined up.

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You get them from all the papers.

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You have them there and I'll tell you all about it.

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The whole story.

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You just get the reporters and the photographers.

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Be sure about them because I want some pictures too.

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Well look let me get this straight.

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What?

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You say you aren't going to give us any information without the press being there.

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Is that right?

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That's the way it's going to be.

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You got it wrong boy.

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What?

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Doesn't make any difference who's there.

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You're going to come around.

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Yeah.

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You got it.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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12 10 a.m. we got to Georgia Street Juvenile Bureau. Frank pulled the car

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into the side alley and we took the subject out of the back seat. Up this way

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son. It's a seedy looking place. Yeah well it's been here a long time. Looks like I

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said out of a picture. Don't you worry about it huh. You want to take him down

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the hall Frank I'll check with Hargrove. Yeah come on. Hi Friday working kind of

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late aren't you. Yeah we are. I got the note from Simmons on the milk burglaries.

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Checked around the nightwives nothing on it so I didn't call you. I don't think

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you have to worry about it. I think we got the answer. Yeah. We just picked up a

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kid. We got him dead to rights in a market. Open bottle of milk right next to

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the cash register. Where is he now? Frank's got him down the hall. You think

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he's your boy? It looks like it. Everything adds up. The entrance, what he

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tried to take, the milk, all along seems to fit. You got that kind of a case what

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are you worrying about? Just two things. Yeah. Who he is and why he did it. He won't

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tell you? No. He's got some big thing working about the press. Says he won't

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give us anything without reporters being there. Makes it rough Joe you know the

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policy. Yeah I do. He won't let us help him. If he wants publicity take me down

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introduce me as a reporter. Well that might do it. Won't do any harm to try. Let's go.

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Go ahead. Thanks. Who am I gonna be? Well tell me Sid Hughes from the mirror. Might as

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well be one of the good ones. Son you wanted to talk to somebody from the

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papers. It's against the policy but we swung it for you. This is Sid Hughes from

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the mirror. Hi. You the fella that held that guy on the phone in Baltimore? Yeah. Great. I

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read all about it. You gonna write me up like that? I hope not son. There were two

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men killed in that operation. I read all the stories. Everybody did. That's how I

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mean for you to write me up with a picture. What makes you think you got it

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coming? You break into one store and try to steal a couple of cartons of

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cigarettes. That doesn't make the first page. One store? I got into 19 of them. 19

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before they caught me. That's important isn't it? That's a story. I don't know. Might be.

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Couple of things we better get straightened out here. First off what's

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your name? Better get your notebook out. Be able to take all this down. Don't worry

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about it son. You just answer the questions. I'll get it. Yeah. Okay. My name

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is Elroy Graham. That's E-L-R-O-Y G-R-A-H-A-M. Yeah. How old are you? I told you once.

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Almost 15. You said you'd broken into 19 stores. Is that right? Yeah. 19. Might have

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made them more but something went wrong tonight. Had trouble with the burglar

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alarm. Thought I turned it off. Bad mistake. He's still working. It wasn't for that.

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Guess it only takes one though huh Mr. Hughes? Yeah I guess so. You want to tell us

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why you did it? What? You had to have a reason for committing these robberies. You

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want to tell us what it was? Sure. Good reason. Real good. All right tell us. Well you

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see I always had trouble at school. Never seemed to quite make it. All the guys

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like me. They all did. All the girls do too. Got girls calling me almost every

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night asking me to take them to dances. Stuff like that. I don't go much for

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stuff like that. You can understand can't you Mr. Hughes? Go ahead Elroy. Well they

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wanted me for all our teams. Football, basketball. All the time asking me to play. But I

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figure if you want to get ahead in the world you got to have an aim. Some place

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where you want to get. Figure out that. Work for it and you're gonna get there.

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Don't you find that true Mr. Hughes? Go ahead. That's the way it was with me. All

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the time turning down offers to be on some team. Telling some girl that I

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couldn't take her to a dance. Just didn't have the time. Somehow I just couldn't

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make it. You can understand it. You've been around you know all the successful

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kind of people. You write something a lot of people read it. You know what I mean.

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Don't you? What's the matter? Something wrong? I'm trying to tell you what

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happened. I'm giving it to you straight. What's the matter? Now you want to tell

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us the truth Elroy. What? I don't know why you're trying to sell us this line boy.

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It isn't necessary. I don't know why you did what you did but I do know you had a

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reason for it. That's all we want to know. Just the reason. You don't believe me?

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Afraid not. How about you? No son, I don't. Mr. Hughes? No. Can't even lie right.

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Can't even tell a lie good. All my life I've been trying to be like other kids.

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All the time getting beat up, getting left out of things. You know why? Do you

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know? Go ahead son. Big reason. Biggest reason in the world.

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Cuz I'm almost 15 years old. I'm four feet seven inches tall. Four feet seven.

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Weight 97 pounds. That ain't very big. Not big enough. Old time other kids shoving

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you around. All the time you're the joke. Gets to the time when you figure it's

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easy to laugh too. Because if you don't some kids gonna beat you up. Get to the

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point where you don't care anymore. I used to clip out those coupons and send

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them in. Get the books back on how to build myself up. Worked at it. Didn't do

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nothing for me. Was still four feet seven and weight 97 pounds. All the stuff I took

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didn't do no good. Still came out four feet seven. 97 pounds. All right son. You

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want to tell us about the burglaries? I did it to be big. That's why. I had the

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things other people wanted. Cigarettes, candy. The other things kids wanted. I had

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all that stuff that the other kids wanted. Made me important. Don't you see that?

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You got to understand it Mr. Hughes. That's why I wanted my picture in the

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paper. That's why I wanted the story. So the kids would know that I'd done

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something big. So they know. All right son. It's gonna be all right here. No it

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isn't. Like everything else I tried to do. I loused it up. I didn't mean to steal

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but it was the only thing to do. The only way I had. That wasn't there some other?

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No. No there wasn't. All the time the other kids laughing. All the time

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talking. I just couldn't stand it anymore. I just couldn't. Here you go. Thanks.

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You can understand it can't you? It makes sense. What's that son? Wasn't so much the

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kids saying I was little. Yeah. I didn't want to think I was small.

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12 36 a.m. We contacted the parents of the Graham boy and asked them to come

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down to the station. We talked to them for an hour and tried to fill them in. In

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view of the fact that the parents of the subject were responsible persons the

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boy was booked for violation of section 459 PC delinquent and he was released to

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his parents pending his hearing in juvenile court. Five days passed and we

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heard nothing from the boy. On December 24th Frank and I checked into the office.

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Friday. Yeah Earl. Get in the back. I want to see you and Smith. Okay thank you.

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Hi Mr. Friday. Well Roy what can we do for you? Well I guess you think it's kind of

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funny. What's that? I want to tell you that I sure think it's good what you did

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for me. Help me with that burglary thing the other night. Well it isn't over yet son.

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The court still has to make a decision on it. Yeah but what you did to make me feel

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better. As far as I'm concerned whatever the judge decides I'll go along with it.

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I had a long talk with my folks so we got it all talked out. All the way talked out.

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Well that's good son. We're glad of it son. Maybe you guys won't like it. I mean me

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knowing you such a short time and all. But I wanted to bring you these. Merry

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Christmas. Well that's awful nice of you. Alright but it isn't necessary. I want to

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give them to you anyway. For what you did for me. Well that's mighty nice of you.

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Alright sure appreciate it. A couple of packages of cigarettes. Hope they're the

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kind of smoke. Yeah son they'll be fine. Thanks son. Well see you guys around huh?

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Yeah sure son. Just one more thing sergeant. Yeah son? Just thought you'd

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like to know. Yeah what's that? I didn't steal those.

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The story you have just heard is true. The names were changed to protect the

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innocent. On the 21st of December a petition was filed in juvenile court on

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behalf of the subject. On January 26th trial was held in Department 52 of

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juvenile court state of California in and for the County of Los Angeles. In a

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moment the results of that trial. Now here is our star Jack Webb. Thank You

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George Veneman. Friends Thanksgiving is traditionally a time when families and

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friends get together. I'd like to make this suggestion. Tomorrow get a couple

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of cartons at Chesterfields. You'll be all set for Thanksgiving and the weekend.

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We know you, your family, and guests are sure to enjoy America's most popular

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two-way cigarette. Chesterfield regular and king-size. Best for you.

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Elroy Merton Graham appeared before the juvenile court where he admitted the

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alleged burglaries. At this time under the counsel of the judge of the juvenile

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court the subject was placed under the care of the probation department for a

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period of three years with the provision that his parents take him to a competent

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psychiatrist. Ladies and gentlemen don't forget your letter carrier when he makes

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a special trip to call on you for muscular dystrophy. Reach in your pocket.

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Give for muscular dystrophy.

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You have just heard Dragnet. A series of authentic cases from official files.

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Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police WH Parker, Los Angeles

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Police Department. Technical advisors Captain Jack Donahoe, Sergeant Marty Wynn,

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Sergeant Vance Brasher. Heard tonight were Ben Alexander, Jack Prushin, Olin Suley,

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Sammy Ogg. Script by John Robinson. Music by Walter Schuman. Hal Gibney speaking.

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