1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,880 Ladies and gentlemen, the story you are about to hear is true. 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,720 The names have been changed to protect the innocent. 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:19,440 Dragnet is brought to you by Chesterfield, made by Liggett and Myers. 4 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:32,800 First, major tobacco company to give you a complete line of quality cigarettes. 5 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,280 You're a detective sergeant. 6 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,880 You're assigned a juvenile detail. 7 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,320 For the past two weeks, there have been rumors of a teenage gang war taking place in your 8 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,320 city. 9 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,960 You don't know when it's going to start. 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,600 You don't know where. 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:45,600 Your job. 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,920 Stop it. 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,640 Friends stage and screen star Paul Douglas is featured on the Chesterfield poster of 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,040 the month that's up all over town. 15 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,560 Here's what Paul Douglas says about Chesterfield. 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Quote, I've been smoking Chesterfield for 22 years. 17 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,120 They're best for me. 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,080 If you try them, you'll find they're best for you. 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,560 Unquote. 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:15,920 You know why Chesterfields are best for you, because they're low in nicotine, highest in 21 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,920 quality. 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:22,120 And of course, Chesterfields are really mild, really satisfying. 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,640 Try them yourself today. 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:32,000 Regular or king size, Chesterfield. 25 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:38,720 Dragnet, the documentary drama of an actual crime. 26 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,840 For the next 30 minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will 27 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,400 travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official 28 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,340 police files. 29 00:01:49,340 --> 00:01:54,840 From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is the story of your police force 30 00:01:54,840 --> 00:02:02,080 in action. 31 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,320 Was Tuesday, September the 8th. 32 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:04,320 It was warm in Los Angeles. 33 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,400 We were working the night watch out of juvenile detail. 34 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,880 My partner is Frank Smith, the boss is Captain Powers. 35 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:09,880 My name's Friday. 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,360 We just transported a prisoner from the main jail and it was 10.39 p.m. when we got to 37 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,360 Georgia Street juvenile. 38 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,360 The interview room. 39 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,360 Sit down, Angelo. 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,360 Yeah. 41 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,360 What, they caught you, Angie? 42 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,360 Yeah, Angie. 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,360 Why'd you tell the officers who arrested you that you were 18? 44 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,360 How'd they find out different? 45 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:25,360 All they had to do was check your record. 46 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,360 Well, it don't make any difference. 47 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,360 Some of them say 16, some say 17. 48 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:28,360 They're all different. 49 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,360 You're 17 though, aren't you? 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,360 Yeah, 17. 51 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,360 All right. 52 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,360 You want to tell us about this burglary? 53 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,640 I told the other guys, ain't that enough? 54 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:40,640 We want to hear it. 55 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:42,640 Well, figure if you tell it once, that's enough. 56 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:43,640 I copped out. 57 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:44,640 I told them all about it. 58 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:45,640 Why don't you ask them? 59 00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:46,640 All right, boy. 60 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:47,640 Give us a story. 61 00:02:47,640 --> 00:02:48,640 You got a match? 62 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:50,640 You'd better if you don't smoke, don't you think? 63 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:51,640 Well, my folks don't care. 64 00:02:51,640 --> 00:02:52,640 They let me smoke. 65 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:53,640 The law doesn't until you're 18. 66 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:54,640 Oh, yeah. 67 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:55,640 Come on, Angie. 68 00:02:55,640 --> 00:02:56,640 Tell us about it. 69 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:57,640 There's nothing to tell. 70 00:02:57,640 --> 00:02:59,640 You and a couple other kids broke into a house. 71 00:02:59,640 --> 00:03:00,640 It's all there is to it. 72 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:01,640 They just broke into the place. 73 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:03,080 What about the stuff you took? 74 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,800 I told the other two guys all about that. 75 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,800 The officers from burglary? 76 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,400 Yeah, they said it was from Central. 77 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,000 I told them all about it, everything. 78 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,000 You showed them where the plant was? 79 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,000 I told them. 80 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,000 I didn't go there though. 81 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,000 I just told them. 82 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,000 What'd you steal? 83 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,480 The things you stole, name them for us. 84 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,480 Just different stuff. 85 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,880 You know, like you find in a house, all kinds of stuff. 86 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:20,880 Was it an electric mixer? 87 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:21,880 Yeah, good one. 88 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,360 You know, with orange juice attachment, good. 89 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,360 What else? 90 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,800 Electric razor, some silverware. 91 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,000 What kind of silverware? 92 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,000 You know, like you eat with. 93 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,240 Was there a silver tea service? 94 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,240 A what? 95 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,240 A coffee service, you know what I mean? 96 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,680 If I knew, I wouldn't ask you. 97 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,640 Like a coffee pot with legs, a lot of scroll work on it, silver, you know? 98 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:36,640 Oh yeah, yeah, I know. 99 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,000 Well, was there one of those? 100 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,000 No. 101 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,000 How about a German Luger? 102 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,000 You mean a pistol? 103 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,000 That's right. 104 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,000 No, there wasn't one of them. 105 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,920 Hey, you guys gonna let me out tonight? 106 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:45,920 No, you'll be held here. 107 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,800 Well, I thought you was gonna let me go tonight. 108 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,800 How about my folks? 109 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:50,800 They know I'm here? 110 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:51,800 We haven't had a chance to notify them yet. 111 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,800 Where do they live? 112 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:53,800 Down on Wall. 113 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:54,800 They have a phone? 114 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:55,800 Uh-uh. 115 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,200 I thought you always told them when you picked up a kid. 116 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,200 We were booked as an adult. 117 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,200 Oh yeah. 118 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,200 You fenced any of this stolen merchandise yet? 119 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,720 No, we just got it last night. 120 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,000 We just broke into the house and haven't had a chance to fence it. 121 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,320 The other officers say they're gonna pick it up? 122 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Yeah. 123 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,320 You got a job? 124 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:09,320 What? 125 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,320 I said are you working? 126 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,320 I told you I did. 127 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,320 Where? 128 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,320 Place down on East Fifth. 129 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:14,320 What do you do? 130 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,320 I'm a messenger, ride a bike, deliver things. 131 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,320 You're working there now? 132 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:17,320 I'm here now. 133 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,320 You know what I mean. 134 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,320 No. 135 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:20,320 You're not working then? 136 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:21,320 The boss of me had a beef. 137 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:22,320 He's a moody one too. 138 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,320 Real moody. 139 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,320 Your parole officer know you lost the job? 140 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,320 I never told him. 141 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,320 Well, maybe he found out. 142 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,320 You know, I was sore at you. 143 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,320 Yeah. 144 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:30,320 You been reporting regular? 145 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,320 Yeah, pretty much. 146 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,320 What's that mean? 147 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,320 Once in a while, a couple of times I missed. 148 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,320 Just a couple. 149 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,320 Don't have to make a federal case out of it. 150 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:36,320 My parole officer know about this arrest? 151 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:37,320 I think he's been notified. 152 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,320 How many times have you been arrested? 153 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,320 I don't know, maybe six, seven. 154 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:40,320 You ever been to camp? 155 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:41,320 Yeah, I was there. 156 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,320 What for? 157 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:43,320 Truancy. 158 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,320 How long were you there? 159 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,320 A couple of weeks. 160 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,320 And I broke out and he sent me to Preston. 161 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,320 I'm on parole now. 162 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,320 You can't let me out tonight, huh? 163 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,320 We'll book you and notify your officer. 164 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,320 What's his name? 165 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,320 Lockridge. 166 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,320 He's a moody old guy. 167 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,320 Hope he ain't in the mood when he sees me. 168 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:58,320 Rough if he's in the mood. 169 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,320 Is that right? 170 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:00,320 Yeah. 171 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,320 Like he came down to see me one day and asked me how I was doing. 172 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:03,320 I told him, fine. 173 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,320 I had a job. 174 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,320 I was doing fine. 175 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,320 He says, that's good, Angie, like that. 176 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,320 That's good. 177 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,320 Tells me how fine I'm doing. 178 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,320 Yeah. 179 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,320 Next day he comes to my house and reads me off. 180 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,320 Says I'm a bum, I'm no good, all like that. 181 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:14,320 Moody. 182 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,320 Why'd he read you off? 183 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:16,320 I don't know. 184 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,320 Didn't he tell you? 185 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,320 No, he just came in and yelled at me. 186 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:19,320 I wasn't doing anything. 187 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,320 He's moody. 188 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,320 You belong to a gang, Angie. 189 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:23,320 Huh? 190 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,320 I said, do you belong to a gang? 191 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,320 Yeah, we got a club. 192 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,320 I belong to that. 193 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,320 What's the name of the club? 194 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,320 Little Wall Street Gang. 195 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,320 You heard of it? 196 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,320 No. 197 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,320 Good club. 198 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,320 You sure you ain't heard of it? 199 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,320 No. 200 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,320 How about you? 201 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,320 No. 202 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,320 You're gang fight much? 203 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,320 What do you mean fight? 204 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,320 Have you ever get mixed up in gang wars, anything like that? 205 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:41,320 No, no, not us. 206 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:42,320 We've been in a couple of street fights maybe. 207 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,320 You know, some kids come over to where we are and start trouble, but we've never been 208 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,320 in no gang wars. 209 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,320 We got a good gang. 210 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:48,320 You know anybody that belongs to Pink Rats? 211 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,320 Couple of guys. 212 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,320 I don't know them real well. 213 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:51,320 Who are they? 214 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,320 I told you, I don't know them real well, just to know them when I see them, you know, 215 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:55,320 like that. 216 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,320 You don't know any of the names, huh? 217 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,320 Well, I think one of them is called Pinky. 218 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,320 That's all I know. 219 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:00,320 Look, why are you asking me about them? 220 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,320 Well, we got a rumble up there cooking up a gang war. 221 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,320 I wondered if you know anything about it. 222 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,320 Where'd you hear it? 223 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:05,320 We did. 224 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,320 You know anything on it? 225 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,320 No. 226 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,320 You sure? 227 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,320 I told you, I wouldn't tell you if it wasn't right. 228 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,320 Now look, Angie, if this thing breaks loose, there's going to be a lot of kids hurt. 229 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,320 If you've got no part in it, why don't you give us a story? 230 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,320 I'm giving it to you. 231 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,320 Ain't nothing more I can tell you. 232 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,320 I didn't hear nothing about no war. I told you, I belong to the little Wall Street gang. 233 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,320 We don't get mixed up in no wars. 234 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,320 A couple of street fights maybe, but no wars. 235 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,320 You gonna stand on that? 236 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,320 I haven't got any other way. 237 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,320 What did you hear? 238 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,320 What? 239 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,320 What did you hear about the rats? About the war, I mean. 240 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,320 Who are they gonna fight? 241 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,320 The way it comes to us, they're gonna cut into the orchids. 242 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,320 You mean from the south side? 243 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:39,320 Yeah. 244 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,320 They're rough guys. 245 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,320 That's what we hear. 246 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,320 How did it start? 247 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:45,320 What do you mean? 248 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,320 What's the beef? 249 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,320 The orchids won't go that far away from home to stage something. 250 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,320 Got to be a reason. You guys know what it is? 251 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,320 The way we got it, a girlfriend of one of the orchid gang moved over into the pink rat territory. 252 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:55,320 They started to go with one of the rats. 253 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,320 The orchids didn't like it, so they drove over one night and beat up on one of the rats. 254 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,320 The next night, the rats went over the south side and kicked around one of the orchids. 255 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:02,320 That's the way it started. 256 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,320 A couple of nights ago, one of the rat kids was riding down the street on a motorbike. 257 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,320 A car full of orchids came up alongside the boy, 258 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,320 and before he could do anything about it, they wrapped a piece of bicycle chain around his head. 259 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,320 Killing? 260 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,320 No. He's still in the county hospital. He's not doing too well. 261 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,320 We've got word there's going to be a party this Saturday night at one of the rats' house. 262 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,320 We figure maybe that's where the trouble's going to be. 263 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,320 You're not throwing any coconuts at me. 264 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,320 What? 265 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,320 This is for real? 266 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,320 It's the way we get it. 267 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,320 Those kids get started, and somebody's going to get hurt real bad. 268 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,320 It may be a lot worse than you've got it figured. 269 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,320 What do you mean? 270 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,320 I heard about the job the orchids did last week. 271 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,320 Yeah? 272 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,320 They broke into a place and cleaned it out. 273 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,320 It must have been for Saturday night. 274 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,320 How do you mean? 275 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,320 They stole a couple of rifles. Something worse. 276 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,320 Yeah? 277 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:44,320 12-gauge shotgun. 278 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,320 10.45 p.m. 279 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,320 Angelo Marcal was rebooked at Georgia Street Juvenile on a charge of burglary. 280 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,320 His shoes and his belt were taken from him, and he was held in detention. 281 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,320 We put in a call to his parole officer and told him what had happened. 282 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:01,320 After that, we drove by Marcal's home to inform his parents of the arrest, but we found nobody there. 283 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,320 We left our card with a notation asking them to call us when they returned. 284 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:10,320 Before the Marcal boy had been placed in the cell, we'd gotten a description of the boy he knew as Pinky. 285 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,320 After trying to contact Marcal's parents, we went up to the second floor of the Juvenile Division 286 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,320 and had the Record Bureau check the nickname and description. 287 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,320 We came up with three possibles. 288 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,320 We pulled the mug shots of the boys and showed them to Angelo Marcal, 289 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,320 but he was unable to give us an identification. 290 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,320 It was difficult to tell if the boy was lying or telling us the truth 291 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,320 to try to cover up for the members of the Pink Rat Gang. 292 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,320 The following afternoon, Wednesday, September 9, Frank and I checked into the office, 293 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,320 and then we drove out to see the parents of the Marcal boy. 294 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,320 They still hadn't returned, and the neighbors told us that they had seen the couple drive away 295 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,320 early Monday morning without giving any indications to when they might return. 296 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,320 We asked the woman who lived next door to call us when they did come back. 297 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,320 4.40 p.m. We drove over to the east side of town to check on the three possibles named Pinky 298 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,320 that we'd turned up the previous night. 299 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:58,320 All of the boys were able to prove to our satisfaction that they were not the Pinky we were after. 300 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,320 We talked to the youngsters in the neighborhood asking them if they knew anything about an expected gang order. 301 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,320 Either they didn't know anything about it or they wouldn't tell us. 302 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,320 6.15 p.m. We went back to the office and put in a call to Central Burglary. 303 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,320 Yeah, we haven't got the exact date. 304 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,320 The way we got it, there were a couple of rifles taken and a 12-gate shotgun. 305 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,320 No, and a 12-gate shotgun. Yeah. 306 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,320 Sure, are we? We're checking the reports now. 307 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,320 This is one tip I'd like to have turned bad, wouldn't you? 308 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,320 Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, Rex? Mm-hmm. 309 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,320 That'll be the 30, huh? Yeah. 310 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,320 What's that? Yeah, I guess it might be. 311 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,320 Won't help if it is. Right. 312 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,320 Let us know, huh? Right. 313 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,320 I got the reports. Guns were stolen on Tuesday, August 30th. 314 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,320 I still haven't been able to get anything on it. 315 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,320 Rifles were.30-06s. Deer rifles, huh? 316 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,320 Yeah. Olson says he got another report last night. Might mean something. 317 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,320 Hardware store broken in two. What'd they take? 318 00:09:52,320 --> 00:10:01,320 Four boxes of.30-06 ammo, three boxes of 12-gauge cartridges. 319 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:07,320 It might have been a coincidence, but if it wasn't, the Orchid Gang was armed with three guns and 225 rounds of ammunition, 320 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,320 enough to start and sustain a small war. 321 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,320 6.35 p.m. We contacted Lieutenant Hartgrove, the night watch commander, 322 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,320 and he assigned two other teams of officers to work with us. 323 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,320 In addition to the juvenile officers, radio units out of Metro Division, Reserves, 324 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,320 joined us in the search for members of the Orchid Gang. 325 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,320 The streets in the area were combed. Citizens in the area were questioned, 326 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,320 but they failed to supply any information on the boys who belonged to the gang. 327 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,320 The satin embroidered jackets the members of the Orchid Gang wore had disappeared from the streets. 328 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:39,320 At 12.01 a.m., the search was called off and a broadcast was put out to the regular units in the area 329 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,320 to be on the watch for any gang activities. 330 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,320 12.47 a.m. We got in touch with Rex Olson in Central Burglary. 331 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:52,320 He told us that the crime lab had failed to come up with any physical evidence on the theft of ammunition from the hardware store. 332 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,320 1.20 a.m. Frank and I checked out of the office and we went home. 333 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,320 The following morning at 8.30 a.m. we got in touch with the juvenile informant, 334 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,320 and he was able to give us more information on the expected gang war. 335 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,320 He told us that the fight was set for Saturday night. 336 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,320 He was unable to give us the exact address of the party that was to be crashed, 337 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,320 but he did give us a general idea of the location. 338 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,320 He was also able to give us the name Pinky Eggers and his address. 339 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,320 He told us that the Eggers boy was the leader of the Pink Rats 340 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,320 and might be able to give us information on the membership of the Orchid Gang. 341 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,320 12.40 p.m. Frank and I drove out to talk to the Eggers boy. 342 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,320 We checked his school, but he wasn't there. We went to his home. 343 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,320 It was a small one-story frame building with a weathered picket fence surrounding it. 344 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,320 In 1947, Hopped Up Ford was in the driveway. 345 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,320 Frank and I went up on the porch and rang the bell. 346 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,320 The yard could sure stand to cleaning up. 347 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,320 Yeah, wonder who the car belongs to. 348 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,320 I don't know. Sure looks fast. 349 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,320 Yeah? I'd like to see Pinky Eggers. 350 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,320 Who are you? Police officers. 351 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,320 Well, can't you lay off the kid? Why don't you quit rousting him? 352 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,320 Is he here? No, he ain't here. 353 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,320 And if he was, I don't think I'd let you see him. 354 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,320 Is that his car? Yeah, it's his. 355 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,320 Registered in his name? No, in mine. 356 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,320 Now, what'd he have to the kid for? I want to talk to him. 357 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:59,320 Well, talk to me. I'm his father. 358 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,320 Anything you got to say to him, you can tell me. 359 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,320 Your boy belonged to a club called the Pink Rat Gang. 360 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,320 Why? Does he? 361 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,320 I answer no questions till you tell me why you're asking. 362 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,320 Now, look, mister, we're not out here to pass the time of day. 363 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,320 Your boy's mixed up in something that can turn out to be pretty serious. 364 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,320 That's the way it is. 365 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,320 Who says it's serious, and what are you talking about? 366 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,320 We got word that your boy's mixed up in a gang war that's gonna break out this weekend. 367 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,320 And you two big cops are out here leaning on a kid because he's mixed up in a beef. 368 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,320 Listen, there's a five-year-old kid down the street skating on the sidewalk. 369 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,320 Why don't you go put the arm on her? 370 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,320 If this war breaks out and somebody's gonna get hurt, 371 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,320 maybe your boy, we're trying to stop it. 372 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,320 Well, don't bother. Pinky can take care of himself. 373 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,320 Any of the gangs cause trouble, the rats can swing their end. 374 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,320 You want to stop the beef, go talk to the other kids. 375 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,320 Tell them to lay off. My boy's gang is now looking for trouble. 376 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,320 Any fighting going on, you can talk to the other kids. 377 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:43,320 You check them. Leave my boy alone. 378 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,320 We want to talk to him, Mr. Eggers. 379 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,320 You gonna make a pinch? 380 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,320 No, we just want to talk to him. 381 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,320 Should've known you were gonna take him today. Only two of you. 382 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,320 Well, I'm telling you, you ain't laying a hand on Pink. 383 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,320 You try it, and I'll haul you in every court in the country. 384 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,320 Now, get out of here. 385 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,320 Where's your boy now? 386 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,320 That's none of your business. I told you to get out. 387 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,320 Maybe you don't understand, Eggers. This is a gang war. 388 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,320 Your boy's helping to build it. 389 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,320 All right, so a couple of kids get together in a vacant lot and mix it up. 390 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,320 A couple of bloody noses, black eyes, nothing wrong. Makes men out of them. 391 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,320 A lot more serious than that. We understand there's gonna be guns used in it. 392 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,320 You get out of here now. I got some rights. 393 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,320 You in off the property in two minutes flat, I'm gonna get a gun and start shooting. 394 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,320 You come around here telling me my son's getting mixed up with a bunch of hoodlums using guns? 395 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,320 You guys are Section 8s. 396 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,320 Maybe Pink, he'll belt a couple of kids, but there ain't gonna be no guns. 397 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,320 Only reason they'd use them is that they're around all the time with you cops hounding them. 398 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,320 You just can't see a bunch of kids have a little fun, can you? 399 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,320 Unless they belong to the stinking clubs you build, you can't stand on that DAPS or whatever you call it. 400 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,320 Kid don't belong to that, ain't no good in your book. Well, I'm telling you something. 401 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,320 Any kid that does belong to it's a bum in my book. 402 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,320 Now, you get off my property and don't come back, you hear me? 403 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,320 Anything happens, Pinky can take care of himself. He'll be okay. 404 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,320 Now, you guys leave him alone. 405 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,320 I hope he's right. 406 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,320 3.15 PM 407 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,320 Frank and I drove over to Pinky Agar's school again. 408 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,320 We spent the next two hours talking to the youngsters in the neighborhood. 409 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,320 Those that would cooperate with us didn't have the information that we needed. 410 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,320 The others refused to tell us anything. 411 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:16,320 In the meantime, officers from 77th Street Division were checking on the activities of the Orchid Gang. 412 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,320 They ran into the same evasive answers that we had. 413 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,400 If the information we'd gotten was true, we had a little more than 48 hours to get to the 414 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,320 principles of the war before the shooting could start. 415 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,320 Thursday night, 8.40 PM, Frank and I met with Captain John Powers, Lieutenant Heartgrove 416 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,320 and the heads of the juvenile details throughout the city. 417 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:37,320 From them we learned that word of the impending war had spread through the gangs in the separate districts. 418 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,320 And that the other gangs were taking sides in the argument 419 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,320 and were ready to start their own battles with factions who opposed them. 420 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,320 Captain Powers, along with the heads of the divisions, 421 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,320 mapped the plan of action to be put into effect at the first sign of an outbreak. 422 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,320 Additional cars from Metropolitan Division reserves were to be ready if they were needed. 423 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,320 Days off for all juvenile officers were canceled. 424 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,320 A three-way radio contact would be kept open between all divisions on Saturday night. 425 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,320 The area where the main activity was expected would be heavily patrolled, 426 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,320 both by beat men and by radio car officers. 427 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,320 Once the operating plan was set up, there was little to do but wait. 428 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,320 In the meantime, the search went on for members of the Orchid Gang 429 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,320 and for Pinky Eggers, the leader of the Pink Rats. 430 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,320 A watch had been placed on his home but he failed to return. 431 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,320 Friday, September 6th, 9.42 p.m. 432 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,320 Frank and I checked with the Burglary Division on the stolen guns 433 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,320 and then we went over to the New Yorker restaurant to get something to eat. 434 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,320 Hi, Sal. 435 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,320 Hey, Joe, call your office, huh? I just called you. 436 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,320 Yeah, thanks. Order him the fish and chips, will you, Frank? 437 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:35,320 Sure. 438 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,320 How's it going, Sal? 439 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,320 Not bad. 440 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,320 Would you? 441 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,320 Kind of rough. Where's Rosie? 442 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,320 Her and the kids went to movies. 443 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,320 Her and the kids went to movies. 444 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,320 2568, please. Yeah, George Jubin. Right. 445 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,320 Lieutenant, this Friday. 446 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,320 When did it happen? 447 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,320 Well, we'd like to get a pencil. 448 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,320 Sal, hand me that menu, will you? 449 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,320 Yeah, here you are. 450 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:09,320 All right, go ahead. 451 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,320 Yeah, I got it. 452 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,320 Yeah. 453 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,320 Well, what do you want us to do? 454 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:16,320 Yeah. 455 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,320 They know yet? 456 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,320 Yeah, all right. 457 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,320 No, we'll get right over there. Bye. 458 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,320 Never mind the food, Sal. 459 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,320 What's the matter? 460 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,320 The kids didn't wait until Saturday. 461 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,320 They just shot up Highland Park. 462 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,320 What's the score? 463 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,320 Still coming in. A good start. 464 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,320 Yeah. 465 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:42,320 Eleven-year-old boy killed. 466 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,320 You are listening to Dragnet, 467 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,320 the authentic story of your police force in action. 468 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:52,320 It's taking place at your dealers, cigarette dealers coast to coast. 469 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:57,320 Smokers by the thousands are now changing to Chesterfield. 470 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,320 Join them today. 471 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:06,320 And you'll be smoking the only cigarette that gives you proof of low nicotine, highest quality. 472 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,320 I want you to know that's a matter of record. 473 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,320 And so is this. 474 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:16,320 As I've been telling you, Chesterfield is the only cigarette with this proven record with smokers. 475 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:23,320 No adverse effects to the nose, throat, and sinuses from smoking Chesterfields. 476 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,320 Good reasons why you should change to Chesterfield? 477 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,320 You bet. 478 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,320 Ask for Chesterfield. 479 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:43,320 Regular or king size, best for you. 480 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,320 The first victim of the juvenile gang war was 11-year-old Tony Herman. 481 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,320 The teenagers next door to the Herman house were having a party. 482 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:55,320 At 9.36 p.m. Friday night, a group of youngsters had arrived at the house and tried to crash the party. 483 00:17:55,320 --> 00:18:01,320 A fist fight had ensued, and Tony, who was doing his homework next door, had gone out to see what was causing the disturbance. 484 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,320 As he stood on the porch watching the fighting, a 12-gauge shotgun had been fired. 485 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:10,320 The pellets from the cartridge had caught the youngster in the stomach and the abdomen, and he'd gone down. 486 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,320 At the sound of the shot, the fighting had stopped and the party crashers had left the scene. 487 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,320 The police had been called, and Tony was removed to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital. 488 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,320 He was dead on arrival. 489 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,320 From the neighbors, descriptions of the party crashers had been obtained. 490 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,320 The boys wore satin jackets with a large white orchid embroidered on the back. 491 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:33,320 One of the people who saw the shooting said that the boy who'd fired the gun wore a jacket with the name Gene under the orchid design. 492 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:38,320 A broadcast was gotten out immediately, along with a description of the car that the juveniles had used to escape. 493 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,320 The parents of the Herman boy were not at home when the shooting occurred. 494 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:46,320 From the neighbors, we found that they usually went to a movie on Friday night, and they didn't return until after midnight. 495 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,320 An officer was stationed at the house to bring them to the hospital when he returned. 496 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,320 At 1.34 a.m., Mrs. Herman arrived at the hospital. 497 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,320 She was a small, dark woman with graying hair. She didn't know what had happened. 498 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,320 Frank and I met her in the hall. 499 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,320 I want to see Sergeant Friday. Is he here? 500 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:02,320 I'm Sergeant Friday, ma'am. 501 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,320 Well, I'm Mrs. Herman. They say something's happened to Tony. 502 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,320 Yes, ma'am. You want to step in here? Might be a little better to talk. 503 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,320 All right. Can I see him? He isn't hurt bad, is he? 504 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,320 It's that bicycle. I told his father I knew it was too soon for it. 505 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,320 He's so little, and to buy him a big bike like that, he couldn't hardly reach the pedals. 506 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,320 Well, that's it, isn't it? He fell off the bicycle. 507 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,320 No, ma'am. 508 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,320 What is it, then? What is it? 509 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,320 Something more? He's hurt. I want to see him. 510 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,320 Just a minute, Mrs. Herman. 511 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,320 Why won't you tell me what happened to him? My husband will be here in a few minutes, and he's gonna want to know. 512 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,320 Why won't you tell me? How bad's he hurt? 513 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,320 Pretty bad, ma'am. 514 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,320 That's not an answer. How bad's he hurt? 515 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,320 He's dead. 516 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,320 Dead? 517 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,320 Can we get you anything? 518 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,320 My boy's dead? Tony? 519 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,320 What? 520 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,320 I thought he'd fallen off the bicycle. He got it for his birthday. A new bicycle. 521 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,320 28-inch wheels. I thought he'd fallen. I didn't know it was like this. 522 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,320 Can I see him? My boy? Can I? 523 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,320 Yes, ma'am. 524 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,320 How did it happen? How? 525 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,320 We're sorry about it, Mrs. Herman. 526 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,320 My Tony had an accident, and he's dead. 527 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,320 We went to a movie, and we'll come home to find our son's dead. 528 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,320 I better get the Dr. Frank. 529 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:17,320 Right. 530 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,320 Doctor will be here in a minute, Mrs. Herman. 531 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,320 Just to a movie? He was doing his homework. Now he's dead. 532 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,320 How did it happen, Mr. Fryder? 533 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,320 The gun went off. He was standing on the porch. He was hit. 534 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,320 But who was shooting? Who shot my boy? Who killed him? 535 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,320 We don't know, Mrs. Herman. 536 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:37,320 I want to know who it was who killed him. I want to know. His father's gonna want to know. 537 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:42,320 My boy's dead. My boy, my son. 538 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,320 You want to handle this, Doc? We'll wait outside. 539 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,320 Sure, wait. 540 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,320 Kind of hard to do. 541 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,320 You're gonna make up for it, right? 542 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,320 The kid that fired the gun? Yeah. 543 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,320 They got him downstairs. 544 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:04,320 A few minutes after the broadcast had gone out on the boy wearing the jacket with the name Gene on it, 545 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,320 two officers on York Boulevard had picked up the speeding car. 546 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,320 In shaking down the occupants and the car itself, they'd found the jacket hidden under the rear seat. 547 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:16,320 In the trunk of the automobile, they'd found the stolen rifles and the shotgun with one discharged cartridge in it. 548 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,320 The three boys in the car had been taken into custody and brought immediately to Georgia Street. 549 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,320 Two of the youngsters had been taken to the detention cells, 550 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,320 and the third, who identified himself as dead, had been taken to the hospital. 551 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,320 Two had been taken to the detention cells, and the third, who identified himself as Gene Graff, 552 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,320 was brought to the office of the night watch commander. 553 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:38,320 From the identification found in his pockets, we learned his name, address, and his age, 16 years old. 554 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,320 His parents were notified that he was being held, and they were asked to come to the office immediately. 555 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,320 All the time the boy had been in the room and the calls had been made, he refused to say anything. 556 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,320 When Frank hung up the phone after calling his parents, he made the first statement. 557 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,320 What's that gonna prove? What's that? 558 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,320 Having him come down here, what are you gonna prove with that? 559 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,320 You wanna tell us about it? 560 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,320 That's a kid. You gonna be all right? 561 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,320 No, he's not. 562 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,320 How bad's he hurt? 563 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,320 He's dead. 564 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,320 Rough. 565 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,320 That's all you got to say? 566 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,320 What do you want me to say? 567 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,320 You gunned down an 11-year-old boy and that's all you got to say about it? 568 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:14,320 Look, cop, I know the routine. You read me off, make a big speech, and I'm supposed to feel real bad. 569 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,320 But I'd like to go along with you, but it won't work. 570 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,320 Look, save the effort. Use the words in somebody else. 571 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,320 Do what you're gonna do and let's get it over with. 572 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,320 How old are you? 573 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,320 You already saw it. 574 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,320 How old? 575 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,320 Sixteen. 576 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,320 Pretty heavy, aren't you? 577 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:28,320 I've been around, yeah. 578 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,320 Don't get smart, kid. 579 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,320 Not my fault. I was born that way. 580 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,320 How many times you been arrested? 581 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,320 Couple. 582 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,320 How many times? 583 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,320 Four. 584 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,320 For what? 585 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,320 Suspicion 211, suspicion 245. 586 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,320 You're sixteen. You've been picked up for robbery and assault. 587 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,320 I didn't stand any of them. 588 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,320 You ever been in camp? 589 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,320 No. 590 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,320 You ever served any time? 591 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,320 Look, the taxpayers pay you a lot of money to keep records. 592 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,320 Why don't you look all this up? It's there. 593 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,320 Where'd you get the shotgun you used tonight? 594 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,320 I won it in a raffle. I got a lot of luck. 595 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,320 Yeah, well, it just ran out, kid. 596 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,320 Now, I'm gonna give you a piece of advice. 597 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,320 If you're as smart as I think you are, you're gonna take it. 598 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,320 You start answering these questions, you start answering them right. 599 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,320 You bought yourself a pile of trouble that you and that smart mouth of yours aren't gonna talk your way out of. 600 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,320 You killed somebody, an eleven-year-old boy. 601 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,320 You walked up that house with a gun, a gun you were ready to use. 602 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,320 And you just answered the questions and never mind the sarcasm. 603 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,320 Put the muscle away. 604 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,320 You lean on me and I'll have every sister in this state on your neck. 605 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,320 I'm a juvenile. Don't you forget it. 606 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,320 You just got out of that league. 607 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,320 That's the way you see it. 608 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,320 That's the way it is. 609 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,320 From where you sit. But I'm telling you. 610 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:28,320 You give me any muscle and I'll scream my head off to every sob sister club in the country. 611 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,320 I'm gonna ask you once more, young fella. Where'd you get that gun? 612 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,320 I bought a lucky ticket. 613 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,320 Stick with it, kid. We're checking the numbers now. 614 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,320 Those guns were taken on the burglary last week. You're dead on it. We got you going in. 615 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,320 You try to make it stick. 616 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,320 Don't worry. We will. 617 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,320 Use narcotics? 618 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,320 Do I look like a hyper? 619 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,320 I asked a question. 620 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,320 And I gave you an answer. 621 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,320 Did you drink? 622 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,320 Sure. I'm a real lush. 623 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,320 I'm gonna tell you something. We're running out of patience with you. 624 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,320 Well, then you better go get pumped up. You're gonna need a lot more. 625 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,320 What were you doing out there tonight? 626 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,320 Where? 627 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:00,320 Come off it. You know what I mean. 628 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,320 Gently, gently. 629 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,320 What were you doing at that party? 630 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,320 What do you usually do at a party? I was having a good time. 631 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,320 Why'd you take that gun with you? 632 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,320 It was in the car. I didn't take it. I went along for the ride. 633 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,320 Well, who put it there? 634 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,320 I don't know. 635 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,320 Other boys say it was yours. 636 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,320 That's a lie. 637 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,320 Prove it. 638 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,320 I don't have to. You gotta prove I did know about it. 639 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,320 We don't have to prove a thing. 640 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,320 There were a couple of people who saw you shoot the kid. 641 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,320 Guys you were with were copped out. You're nailed and you know it. 642 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,320 We'll see what the judge has to say about it. 643 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,320 I've gotten off before. I'll swing it this time. 644 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,320 I'm a juvenile. I'm not responsible for what I do. 645 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,320 You really believe that, don't you? 646 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,320 I said it. 647 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,320 You know, I got two kids. 648 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,320 What do you want? A medal? 649 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,320 I got two kids. They're pretty good youngsters, too. 650 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,320 They go to school, they study hard, and they're trying hard to grow up to be decent human beings. 651 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,320 They'll get married and raise ordinary families. 652 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,320 They'll never do much of anything special to get their names in the papers. 653 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,320 Nobody's gonna give much notice. Maybe that's the way they want it. 654 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,320 But all of a sudden, somebody like you comes along, mean and rotten, and people hear about you. 655 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,320 They figure all the kids sat down and wrote your name on a ballot, and now you represent all of them. 656 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,320 That you're the shining example of American youth. 657 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,320 They sit there and shake their heads and talk about what's happening to the younger generation. 658 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,320 They got the wrong picture. It isn't true. None of it. 659 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,320 You framed it. 660 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,320 You act like a big man, and every decent, honest kid comes on looking like a bum. 661 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,320 You sit there and blow off about being a juvenile. 662 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,320 You like it because you think it'll buy you special privileges. 663 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,320 Well, you're wrong, fella. Not in my book. 664 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,320 As far as I'm concerned, you're a rotten little killer, and you're gonna be treated like one. 665 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,320 Now you bring out the rubber hose. 666 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,320 All right, come on. Let's go. 667 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,320 Take your coat, boy. You're not coming back this way. 668 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,320 Yeah. 669 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,320 Come in. 670 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,320 Mr. Friday? 671 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,320 Yes, Miss Herman. 672 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,320 They told me I'd find you here. Is this the boy who did it? 673 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,320 Yes, ma'am. 674 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,320 What's your name? 675 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,320 Answer. 676 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,320 Gene Graff. 677 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,320 Why'd you do it? Why'd you kill my boy? 678 00:25:54,320 --> 00:26:00,320 Did he do something to you? Is that it, did Tony do something to you? 679 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:05,320 Answer me! Say something! 680 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:10,320 Just tell me one thing. What right do you have? 681 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,320 What right does a young hoodlum like you have to stand there alive and breathing in my boy dead? 682 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,320 What right? Do you hear me? What right? 683 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,320 Miss Herman. 684 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,320 Make him tell me what right. What right? 685 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,320 What right does he have to do a horrible thing like this? What right? 686 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:36,320 I don't know, but we're gonna take it away from him. 687 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:41,320 The story you have just heard is true. The names were changed to protect the innocent. 688 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:47,320 On October 4th, the petition was filed in juvenile court and the subject was declared unfit to be tried as a juvenile. 689 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:53,320 He was ordered to be tried in superior court under the general law. In a moment, the results of that trial. 690 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,320 Now here is our star, Jack Webb. 691 00:26:55,320 --> 00:27:01,320 Thank you, George Fenomen. Friends, we've been getting letters from people all over the country telling us that they've switched to Chesterfield. 692 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:09,320 Now just as I've been telling you, thousands of smokers are changing to Chesterfield because only Chesterfield gives proof of low nicotine, highest quality. 693 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:18,320 That's why I recommend you try them today. Regular or king size, Chesterfield's are really mild, really satisfying. Best for you. 694 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:33,320 Gene Norton Graff was tried and convicted of murder in the second degree. He was referred to the youth authority for punishment. 695 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:40,320 Murder in the second degree is punishable by imprisonment in the state penitentiary for a period of from five years to life. 696 00:27:40,320 --> 00:28:04,320 You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from official files. 697 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:10,320 Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police, W.H. Parker, Los Angeles Police Department. 698 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:15,320 Technical advisors, Captain Jack Donahoe, Sergeant Marty Wynn, Sergeant Vance Brasher. 699 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,320 Heard tonight were Ben Alexander, Bert Holland, June Whitley, Gil Stratton. 700 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:26,320 Script by John Robinson. Music by Walter Schuman. Hal Gibney speaking. 701 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:36,320 Watch an entirely different Dragnet case history each week on your local NBC television station. 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