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You'll find Chesterfield much milder with an extraordinarily good taste. 11 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Dragnet, the documentary drama of an actual crime. 12 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:58,000 For the next 30 minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official police files. 13 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:07,000 From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is the story of your police force in action. 14 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:14,000 It was Tuesday, August 12th. It was warm in Los Angeles. We were working the day watch out of homicide detail. 15 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,000 My partner is Frank Smith. The boss is Thad Brown, Chief of Detectives. My name is Friday. 16 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:24,000 We were on the way out from the office and it was 8, 12 a.m. when we got to 8469 North Brighton Avenue. 17 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:30,000 The front door. Yes. Mrs. Hurley. Yes. Who are you? Police officers. This is my partner Frank Smith. My name is Friday. 18 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Oh, it's about time you got here. Yes, ma'am. I wonder if we could see Mrs. Stone. I don't think so. 19 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:41,000 The ambulance man's with her now, giving her some kind of pill, something to calm her down. Lord knows the poor thing certainly needs something. 20 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Yes, ma'am. Would you like to see her, please? Like I said, I don't know if you can. I'll have to ask the ambulance man. 21 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Well, I'm sure it's all right, ma'am, if you just let us talk to the attendant. You just wait here. I'll talk to him. 22 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Now, look, I don't like to be rude, ma'am, but this is a murder investigation. If you'll open the door, please. 23 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:02,000 How do I know you're what you say you are? How do I know you're cops? Here's our identification. 24 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:08,000 Looks enough like you, I guess. All right, come on. Thank you. 25 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Where is Mrs. Stone? Back there, in the back bedroom. I'll check with the attendant. Right, Frank. 26 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,000 I wonder if you could tell us what you know about this, Mrs. Hurley. You just bet I can. You just bet. 27 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:28,000 That poor woman back there, she's lying at death's door because you didn't do your job, you know that? Ma'am. 28 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:33,000 At death's door. It's your job to see that things like this don't happen. That's what you're paid for. 29 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:38,000 And look, just look. Your poor husband dead and herself all beaten. Poor thing. 30 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,000 I just don't understand what the world's coming to when things like this can happen. Well, first, ma'am, there was no way we could stop this. 31 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,000 I think you understand that. We're trying to clean it up now. We're going to need your help to do it. Now, if you just tell me what happened, please. 32 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:56,000 That's what you say. I know different. All right, Mrs. Hurley, the faster we can get started on this thing, the better chance we have of getting the people responsible for it. 33 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:02,000 I suppose so. Well, what do you want to know? Well, if you'd please start at the beginning and tell me what you know about it. 34 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Yeah. Well, it started this morning. About seven or seven fifteen, I think. 35 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:14,000 I heard this noise at the back door, kind of a scratching kind of noise and a moan, a little tiny moan. 36 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Sounded like it was way off, kind of in the distance. Yes, ma'am. First, I wasn't sure that I wasn't dreaming the whole thing. 37 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:25,000 You know how it is when you're awakened out of a sound sleep. Yes, I understand. Well, it was like that. 38 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,000 It took me about ten minutes before I knew that there really was something there. 39 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Well, I got up and went to the door. That's when I found her right there at the back door, kind of laying on the porch. 40 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,000 I could see right away that someone had beaten her. That's when I called the ambulance. 41 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,000 Then she told me about how her husband had been killed. And then I called you. 42 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:50,000 The other car, the one with the men in uniform, come out. They looked around and then they went over to the house. 43 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,000 That'd be the Stone's house. That's right. Next door. I see. How about it, Frank? 44 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,000 It's pretty bad, Joe. They're treating her now. Can we see her? 45 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Only attendant says it'll be all right for a couple of minutes. Not much more than that. They're going to take her to Georgia Street. 46 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Okay. He said he'd let us know and we could talk to her. All right, fine. Did she tell you what happened, Mrs. Hurley? Anything at all? 47 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Just that there was two men. They'd come in and beat up on her, killed her husband. That was enough. 48 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,000 One look at her and I could tell she was hurt bad. And her, an invalid. 49 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:23,000 I just don't understand how anybody in their right mind could do a thing like this. I just don't understand it. 50 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Yes, ma'am. Now, you say that she's an invalid. Is that right? 51 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Yes. They were involved in an auto accident a couple of years ago. Some drunk ran right into them, smashed the car all up, 52 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:38,000 laid Mr. Stone up for a couple of months and put Patricia in a wheelchair for the rest of her life. Can't walk at all. She crawled over here. 53 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,000 I don't know how she did it. It was great courage. 54 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Yes, ma'am. Did you hear anything at all last night? Any disturbance aside from what you told me? 55 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Not a thing. Not a thing. Went to bed about 10, slept like a rock. Didn't hear a thing until this morning. 56 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:54,000 That was about 7, 7.15 maybe, like I said. Nope. I didn't hear a thing. 57 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Well, do you know if there was anyone that the Stones were afraid of? Anyone who might have done a thing like this? 58 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:04,000 No. I can't think of a soul. How about money, ma'am? Did Mr. Stone keep large sums of money around the house? 59 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Well, now, I don't know. He might have. Joe? 60 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Yeah, hell. You want to see her now? Yeah. Come on, Frank. All right. 61 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,000 You're going to want to talk to me some more? Yes, ma'am. We'll be back. 62 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:30,000 Mrs. Stone? Mrs. Stone? Yes? Who is it? 63 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Police officers, ma'am. We know you don't feel well, but there are a few questions we'd like to ask if you don't mind. 64 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,000 You got the men yet? The ones who did this? No, ma'am, not yet. 65 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:45,000 I tried to tell them. I tried. They just wouldn't listen. Ma'am? 66 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:53,000 I told them to take whatever they wanted and leave us alone. Just leave us alone. I tried to tell them. They wouldn't listen. 67 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:58,000 They killed Henry. They tried to kill me. Do you know who they were, Mrs. Stone? 68 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,000 What? I say, do you know who they were? The men who did this, do you know who they were? 69 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Had you ever seen them before? No, I don't think so. It was dark, and then I heard them argue with Henry. 70 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:17,000 I tried to get up. I tried to help him, but I couldn't. I screamed, but they didn't pay attention. Then they killed him. 71 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Ma'am, can you describe them for us? Tell us how tall they were, how they would dress me? 72 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:29,000 They didn't know that I was there. Then they came into my room, and they said they'd killed the other one, so they might as well kill me, too. 73 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:38,000 I tried to tell them to go away, but they wouldn't listen. They just hit me and hit me and hit me. There was nothing I could do. 74 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Did they drive a car, ma'am? Is there anything you can tell us that might help us in identifying them? Did one of them use a name, maybe? 75 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:54,000 They locked me in the closet. They put that pillow over my head. I don't know why. I told them they could take what they wanted, take it, or they'd just leave us alone. 76 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:59,000 But they didn't. They killed Henry. They tried to kill me. 77 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,000 All right, Mrs. Stone. Everything's going to be all right. You don't worry, and I'll just try and get some rest. 78 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:11,000 It doesn't matter much now. Isn't anything that matters anymore? Nothing now has killed Henry. 79 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,000 All right, ma'am. Please try not to get upset. 80 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Joe. 81 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,000 Yeah? 82 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Better get her down town. 83 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Well, how's it look for her, Hal? What are her chances? 84 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Depends. 85 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Yeah? 86 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 How hard she wants to try. 87 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:40,000 846 A.M. The ambulance removed Mrs. Stone to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital. We put in a call to the crime lab, and then we talked to the neighbor, Mrs. Hurley. 88 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:48,000 She could add a little to what she'd already told us. She said that she had heard no loud noises during the night and that she'd seen no one in the neighborhood acting suspicious. 89 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:59,000 She told us, however, that Mr. Stone was known to have kept large sums of money in the house. She went on to say that he made no attempt to hide his distrust of banks and that he had often said that all of his money was on the premises. 90 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:09,000 9.02 A.M. Frank and I went next door to the Stone home. The crime lab and latent fingerprint crews had arrived and were going over the place for physical evidence. We talked to Ray Pinker of the crime lab. 91 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,000 This is how they got in. 92 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,000 Yeah, toward the screen, huh? 93 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Must have done it with their hands. Couldn't find any tool marks. 94 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,000 You figure the door was open then, huh, Ray? 95 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,000 Yeah, it looks that way. One of those old-fashioned locks. No indication that they forced it. 96 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Did you find anything else? 97 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,000 I took a look back here in the closet. 98 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,000 They sure tore the place up, didn't they? 99 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Yeah, went through everything. Even took the pictures off the walls. 100 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,000 Yeah. 101 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Ripped up the bedding. It was in the drawer. They didn't go through. 102 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Any prints at all? 103 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Bergman's checking it. Haven't found anything yet that I know of. 104 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Pretty bad. 105 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,000 Here. Look at the mattress on the husband's bed. 106 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:47,000 Tore it all up. Stuffing scattered around the room. Looks like a tornado went through the place. 107 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,000 The closet's back here. 108 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,000 This was Mrs. Stone's room. 109 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,000 See where they dragged her. 110 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:59,000 Must have hit her the first time about here. And then they dragged her over to this closet and dropped her in here. 111 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,000 See where she stacked those suitcases up there to pull herself out the window. 112 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,000 I don't know how she did it. Bad office she was. 113 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Looks like robbery was the motive then, huh, Ray? 114 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Can't agree with that, Joe. 115 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,000 What? 116 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Come on back to Stone's room. 117 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:22,000 We found the murder weapon. Checked around. It looks like they picked them up in the backyard. 118 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Here, take a look. 119 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Couple of wooden clubs. 120 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,000 Looks like they came from a walnut tree just outside the back door. 121 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Kind of blows the robbery angle. 122 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Yeah. 123 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 They were ready to kill the Stones when they came in. 124 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:39,000 930 a.m. 125 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,000 The crime lab finished their investigation of the house. 126 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,000 The backyard and the surrounding ground were gone over. 127 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:51,000 In the soft earth at the foot of one of the walnut trees, a pair of footprints was found and plaster casts were made of them. 128 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:56,000 On the lower limbs of the trees, we found the place where the two clubs could have been taken. 129 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,000 The rest of the yard and the immediate vicinity were combed, but we found nothing. 130 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:05,000 1215 p.m. Frank put in a call to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital. 131 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:10,000 They told him that Mrs. Stone had been given emergency treatment and then had been removed to the county hospital. 132 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Her condition was listed as critical. 133 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,000 They said that it would be some time before we'd be able to talk to her. 134 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,000 1 30 p.m. We began to canvas the neighborhood. 135 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:25,000 From the people in the surrounding houses, we found that Mr. Stone had retired from the wholesale grocery business about 10 years ago. 136 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:30,000 He devoted himself to the cultivation of prized roses and the care of Mrs. Stone. 137 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,000 The neighbors told us that the Stones were quiet and that they seldom entertained. 138 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,000 3 15 p.m. We went back to talk to Mrs. Hurley. 139 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,000 I knew you'd be back. 140 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,000 Ma'am. 141 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,000 I knew you'd come back to talk to me again. 142 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,000 I could have told you a lot, but I thought I'd just let you try and find out for yourself. 143 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Didn't do too well, did you? 144 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Did you? 145 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 I don't think I understand, Mrs. Hurley. 146 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,000 Simple. 147 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Anything you want to know about this neighborhood, you come to the source. That's me. 148 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Anybody knows what's going on here, I do. 149 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Yeah, well, if you had information that you thought we should have had, why didn't you tell us before, ma'am? 150 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,000 I didn't want to. 151 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Ma'am? 152 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,000 I said I didn't want to. 153 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,000 I still say that you were responsible for this whole thing, done your job, and it wouldn't have happened. 154 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Oh, I still haven't forgot. Oh, no, sir. 155 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,000 Now look, Mrs. Hurley, this is a murder investigation. 156 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,000 I've told you that before. A man has been killed, a woman's been badly beaten. 157 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,000 We're going to need all the cooperation from you that we can get. 158 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,000 I'm ready now. 159 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,000 What? 160 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,000 I'll cooperate. I'll tell you what you want to know. 161 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,000 All right, Mrs. Hurley. First, do you have any idea who might have done this? 162 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,000 You just bet I have. 163 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,000 Who, ma'am? 164 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Their boy. Only one that's mean enough to do it. Only one. 165 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Their boy? 166 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,000 Sure. Herman Jr. He's the one. You just bet. 167 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Why do you say that? 168 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Because I know that's why. Mean kid. Always had trouble with him. 169 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,000 He caused the only trouble ever was between Patricia and me. Troublemaker. 170 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,000 But he was pure and simple a troublemaker. 171 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,000 How old is this boy, Mrs. Hurley? 172 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,000 Thirty-six. A real monster. 173 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,000 You know where the boy is now? 174 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,000 No, and I'm not interested. Happiest day of my life when he moved out of the house. 175 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:01,000 Oh, he and I used to get in some arguments. Little brat. 176 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,000 Stand there and think he was so big. 177 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,000 Finally Mr. Stone saw it. Told him to get out. 178 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Moved right out of the house. Bag and parcel right out. 179 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,000 You mean that Mr. Stone and the boy had arguments? 180 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,000 See? That's what I mean. 181 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,000 No wonder people don't cooperate with you. 182 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,000 I beg your pardon? 183 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,000 I say something, then you ask me if I mean it. Of course I mean it. I wouldn't say it otherwise. 184 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Like people who ask what time is it. You tell them and then they ask if you're sure. 185 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,000 They don't want to believe you? Why do they ask you in the first place? 186 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Yes, ma'am. Were you there at the time, ma'am? 187 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,000 No. No, I wasn't. It was a warm night. 188 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Just a couple of months ago all the windows was open and I just couldn't help seeing into their house. 189 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,000 You know, houses being so close together. You can understand it. 190 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Yes, ma'am. We can understand. 191 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,000 I don't like the way you said that, young man. 192 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Well, I didn't mean anything by it, Mrs. Hurley. 193 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Well, I suppose not. 194 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,000 But I don't want you to get the idea that I'm the nosy type. 195 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Oh, no, ma'am. Not at all. 196 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:05,000 Well, anyway, Mr. Stone told Herman to get his things and get out. 197 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,000 Right out. That night. 198 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,000 Well, did the boy leave that night? 199 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Oh, yes, yes. Went right into his room and packed. 200 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Said he'd never come back, that he didn't want anything more to do with the old man. 201 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,000 And his father said that was the way he wanted it. 202 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,000 He was going to cut him out of his will. 203 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Well, you can just believe that's when the trouble really started. 204 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,000 Well, now, where was Mrs. Stone all this time? 205 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:33,000 She was in her room, but she came out, wheeled herself right out, told them to stop this foolishness. 206 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,000 She always was kind of pampering the boy. 207 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:42,000 I think myself that's what caused him to be like he was, you know, tied to his mother's apron strings all the time. 208 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,000 That's when Herman said that about doing something. 209 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Said that the old man was senile. 210 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Said that he was crazy and that the money was his and he was going to see that he got it. 211 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,000 Said he meant to have it if he had to kill somebody. 212 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:01,000 Four ten p.m. We got the full name and description of the Stone boy from Mrs. Hurley. 213 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,000 We went back to the office and ran the name through RNI. 214 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:11,000 We found a Herman Stone Jr. with a record listing three arrests on charges of 41-27A LAMC. 215 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:17,000 We checked out his last known address, a hotel on South Hill, and found that he'd moved several weeks before. 216 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:22,000 The manager gave us a forwarding address and at six ten p.m. Frank and I drove out to see him. 217 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,000 It was a large apartment hotel on Wilshire Boulevard. 218 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,000 We talked to the desk clerk. 219 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Sure, I know Herman, nice guy. 220 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Once in a while he gets a little loud, but most of the time he's a real nice guy. 221 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,000 Is he here now? 222 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,000 I don't think so. Let me look. 223 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Well, Key's here. I think I saw him go out about an hour ago. He wasn't feeling too well. 224 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Any idea where he might be? 225 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 No, like I said, I didn't talk to him. Just saw him go out. 226 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,000 You know what he does for a living? 227 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,000 Herman? 228 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,000 Yes, sir. 229 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,000 I don't think he does nothing. Plays the horses a little bit, picks up a buck that way. 230 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,000 Good player. Sure knows the dogs. 231 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Given me a couple of tips, didn't do any good. He sure does all right. 232 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Made a real killing yesterday. Must have hit it for about four or five thousand. 233 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Is that right? 234 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Yeah. Showed me the money this morning. Real big roll. At least four or five grand. 235 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,000 Tips he gave me, never did that good. 236 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,000 You got any idea where he was last night? 237 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,000 What's this all about anyway, Herman? Done something? 238 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,000 Well, it'd be better if we talked to him. 239 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,000 Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, I guess you guys know what you're doing, huh? 240 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Why, yes, sir. 241 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,000 You asked me if I knew what he was doing last night? 242 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Uh-huh. 243 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,000 I sure do. He really tied one on. Of course, with his luck, I don't wonder, he really tied one on. 244 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,000 Sir? 245 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:31,000 Loaded. Got in here, he had a bottle. So you won't say anything about this to the management, will you? 246 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,000 No, sir, we won't. 247 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,000 And then that happened. They don't approve of drinking while I'm undoing it. You understand? 248 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,000 It's stuffy, but that's the way they look at it. Uh-huh. 249 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,000 Like I said, old Herm rolls in here and he's got this bottle. He asked me to have one with him. 250 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:48,000 Well, I don't like to get him sore, so I do. And we have a couple more. 251 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 Old Herm, that boy can really put it away. 252 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Yes, sir, what time was that? 253 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,000 Well, let's see, I guess about seven, maybe seven fifteen. 254 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,000 Did he go out after that? 255 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,000 Sure he didn't. Killed the bottle and then he passed right out, cold. Slept there on that couch. 256 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,000 Uh-huh. 257 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Well, sir, old Herm didn't go any place. 258 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Music 259 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:20,000 You are listening to Dragnet, the authentic story of your police force in action. 260 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:27,000 Chesterfield is the first cigarette to offer smokers premium quality in both regular and king size. 261 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:35,000 King size Chesterfield contains tobaccos of better quality and higher price than any other king size cigarette. 262 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:42,000 Chesterfield is first to name all its ingredients, ingredients that make the best possible smoke. 263 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,000 And Chesterfield gives you this scientific report. 264 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:51,000 No adverse effects to the nose and throat of a group smoking only Chesterfield's. 265 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:56,000 So enjoy your smoking. Change to Chesterfield today. 266 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Much milder with an extraordinarily good taste. 267 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:09,000 Music 268 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Eight twelve p.m. Herman Stone returned to the hotel. 269 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,000 Frank and I talked to him for about an hour. 270 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,000 He appeared quite shaken when we told him of his father's death. 271 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,000 We questioned him about the money that he'd suddenly come up with. 272 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,000 He explained that he'd won it at the races. 273 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,000 He gave us the name of the man who accompanied him to the track. 274 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Frank and I checked with him and found that Stone's story was true. 275 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:34,000 We checked his shoe size and found that it was not the same as the print found at the scene of the murder. 276 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:39,000 Ten forty six p.m. We called the office and they told us that we'd gotten a message from the county hospital. 277 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,000 Mrs. Stone was able to talk. 278 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,000 She wasn't completely out of danger, but barring a relapse, she was expected to recover. 279 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Frank and I drove out to the hospital and talked to her. 280 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,000 I wish I could help you more than I have, but there just isn't anything else. 281 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,000 Well, could you give us any idea of about how tall they were? 282 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,000 That'd be pretty hard to do, Mr. Friday. 283 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,000 I was lying down when they came into my room. 284 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,000 I could only guess, but I'd say maybe as tall as you. 285 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,000 I don't think much taller. 286 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,000 I see. How about their build, ma'am? Was it heavy or slight? 287 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,000 I can't be sure. 288 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:14,000 I guess if I must say one or the other, I have to say they're about medium. 289 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 One was very strong, though. 290 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,000 Ma'am? 291 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,000 The one that carried me to the closet. 292 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,000 He was strong. 293 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Just lifted me out of bed and carried me over to the closet and threw me on the floor. 294 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Did your husband have any large amounts of money in the house? 295 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 Yes. Yes, he did. 296 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Herman never believed in banks, not since the crash. 297 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,000 Always said that he could take care of the money as well as they could. 298 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,000 Yes, ma'am. 299 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:42,000 He had all of his savings in the house, kept them in the mattress on his bed. 300 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Do you know about how much that might be, Mrs. Stone? 301 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,000 I'd only be guessing, but I'd say maybe $12,000 or $13,000. 302 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,000 Herman didn't discuss finances with me. 303 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,000 He always thought it was a man's business that I shouldn't have to worry about it. 304 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,000 I tried to tell him, tried all the time. 305 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,000 What's that, ma'am? 306 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,000 That he should put the money in a bank. 307 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000 He used to talk about it, too. I know that didn't help any. 308 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Who did he talk to, Mrs. Stone? 309 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,000 People in the neighborhood. 310 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000 He used to tell them that he didn't get the interest, 311 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,000 but that he always knew just where his money was. 312 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,000 He used to ask them if they could say the same. 313 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Can you think of anybody in the neighborhood who might do a thing like this? 314 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,000 Oh, no. We've lived there for a long time. 315 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,000 No, none of them would even think about it. 316 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,000 I see. Did you or your husband have any enemies? 317 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Anyone that you had any arguments with? 318 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,000 No, there wasn't anyone. 319 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,000 Mr. Friday? 320 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,000 Yes, ma'am? 321 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,000 Does my son know about this? 322 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Does he know that his father is... 323 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000 Does he know about it? 324 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,000 Yes, ma'am, he does. He's outside in the hall right now. 325 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000 He said he'd like to see you. 326 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Poor boy. 327 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,000 Never did get along with his father. 328 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,000 I tried to make them understand each other. 329 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,000 I tried so hard. Didn't seem to do any good. 330 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,000 Mm-hmm. 331 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Well, if there's nothing else that you can tell us, ma'am. 332 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000 There's one thing. 333 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,000 I hate to mention it. It seems so silly. 334 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,000 What's that, Mrs. Stone? 335 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,000 Well, when they were arguing with Herman in the next room, 336 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,000 they got very loud. 337 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000 I thought that I recognized one of the voices. 338 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,000 I can't be sure, but at the time I thought it. 339 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Yes, ma'am. 340 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,000 Then when they came into my room, I was pretty sure. 341 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,000 But I could be wrong, and I... 342 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,000 I wouldn't want to cause anybody any trouble. 343 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,000 I wouldn't want to make a mistake. 344 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,000 Well, who do you think it might have been? 345 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,000 Whose voice do you think it was? 346 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000 It sounded like Smokey's. 347 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Who? 348 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,000 Smokey. 349 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,000 He used to do some work around the yard for Herman. 350 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,000 That was a year or so ago. I haven't seen him since then. 351 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Well, do you know where we can get in touch with him, ma'am? 352 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,000 No, I don't. 353 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,000 As I said, I haven't seen him in over a year. 354 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000 What's his full name, Mrs. Stone? 355 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000 I don't know, but that... 356 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,000 That's why I thought it might be a little silly. 357 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,000 I don't even know his right name. 358 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000 He just told us his name was Smokey. 359 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,000 The young man always had a cigarette in his mouth, 360 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,000 Chains Smoker, I think you'd call him. 361 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,000 Uh-huh. 362 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,000 Herman used to kid him about it, you know, smoking all the time. 363 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,000 I don't think Smokey liked it. 364 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,000 He was a pretty serious young man. 365 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,000 He used to get a little angry at him. 366 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,000 I see. Can you give us a description of the man? 367 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Yes. Nice-looking boy. 368 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000 I hope I haven't made a mistake. 369 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000 I hope I haven't done the wrong thing. 370 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Well, don't you worry about it, Mrs. Stone. 371 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,000 What? 372 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:35,000 That's his worry now. 373 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,000 We continued to talk to Mrs. Stone. 374 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,000 We got the description of the handyman who'd worked for her husband. 375 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,000 11.28 p.m. We went back to the city hall 376 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,000 and ran the name and description through the moniker files in R&I. 377 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,000 We came up with one good possible. 378 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,000 In checking his record, we found that his full name was Charles P. Roxford. 379 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,000 His age was listed as 37 years. 380 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,000 The rest of his description matched the one we'd gotten from Mrs. Stone. 381 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,000 He had an arrest record listing several charges of forgery, 382 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,000 and at that time there was an outstanding warrant on him for check passing. 383 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,000 We went back to the office and called Forgery Division. 384 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,000 Yeah, Roxford. Yeah, that's right, Charles R. Huh? 385 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,000 Oh, we want to talk to him about a killing out on Brighton. Yeah. 386 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,000 What? When was that? 387 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,000 Yeah. Okay, we'll be right there. 388 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Well, that's a break. 389 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,000 What do you mean? They know where he is? 390 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:26,000 They got him. 391 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,000 Charles Roxford had been picked up a few minutes before by officers in Forgery Division 392 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000 while he was trying to pass a bad check. 393 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,000 Frank and I went down the hall and took the prisoner to the interrogation room. 394 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,000 We talked to him for two hours. 395 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,000 During that time, he'd admit nothing except his name 396 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,000 and that he'd been trying to pass a phony check. 397 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,000 You're off your rocker and you know it. 398 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,000 You got me for one thing, hanging paper. 399 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,000 That's it and you can't make anything more out of it. 400 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,000 How about this money we found on you? Yeah, how about it? 401 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,000 Where did it come from? I won it. Where? In a crap game. 402 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,000 Where was the game? I forgot. It was a floating game. 403 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,000 Moved around a lot. 404 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000 You worked for the Stone family a year or so ago? 405 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,000 I don't know. I might have. I worked for a lot of people. 406 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,000 You worked for them? I might have, like I said. 407 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,000 They seem to think you did. 408 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,000 All right, so I did. What's that mean? 409 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,000 You ever have any arguments with Stone? No. 410 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,000 Got along good. Never had no trouble. 411 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,000 His wife thinks different. 412 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,000 Oh, that's so? That's right. 413 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,000 And she's off her rocker too. 414 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000 Now, look, maybe you guys got all night, but I haven't. 415 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,000 You weren't going anyplace. 416 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,000 Well, how about booking me in? Let's talk in the morning then, huh? 417 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,000 All right, fine, Roxford, as soon as you answer a few more questions. 418 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,000 I told you all I know. 419 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,000 Maybe you forgot something. Let's go over it again. What do you say? 420 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,000 All right, all right. 421 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,000 Where do you want to start? 422 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Can you tell us what you've been doing the last few days? 423 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Any day in particular? Or do you want a rundown minute by minute? 424 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,000 You just tell us what you've been doing, will you? 425 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,000 Well, let's see. This is Tuesday, isn't it? 426 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,000 Yeah, it's Tuesday. 427 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000 All right, let's start with Monday. That all right with you? 428 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,000 Come on, get on with it. 429 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,000 Well, I got up yesterday morning about, I think it was 11.30. 430 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,000 Let a cigarette, got dressed, went downstairs and had some breakfast. 431 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,000 Interesting? 432 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,000 Go ahead. 433 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,000 I can spice it up for you, you know, if you want. 434 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,000 It's kind of dull when you tell a story. 435 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Well, you just tell a story. 436 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Oh, what are you guys trying to prove? What are you trying to tell? 437 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,000 What did you do last night? 438 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,000 I had dinner and went to a show. 439 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,000 Where did you eat dinner? 440 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,000 Place down in the spring. 441 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000 Did you eat alone? 442 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Yeah. 443 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,000 What did you do then? 444 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Like I said, I went to a show. 445 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,000 Who went with you? 446 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,000 Nobody. I didn't say anybody went with me. 447 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,000 Oh, I must have thought you said that. 448 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Yeah, I went alone. 449 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000 All right, where did you go after that? 450 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000 I walked around, had a couple of drinks. 451 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000 Where? 452 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,000 A bar down on Fifth. 453 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,000 What time was that? 454 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,000 About 12.30 or so. 455 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,000 Anybody with you? You know the bartender? 456 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,000 No, I never went in a place before. 457 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,000 Then you got no way of proving you were there, didn't you? 458 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,000 No, do I have to? 459 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Did it help? 460 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,000 Well, why? I'm a big boy now. 461 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000 I don't have to explain anything to you guys. 462 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000 Now, get off my back, will you? 463 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,000 I'm getting sick. I'm playing footsie with you. 464 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,000 Where did you go after you left that bar? 465 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,000 I went home. 466 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,000 Where's that? 467 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,000 It's a place over on Fourth. 468 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,000 What time did you get in? 469 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,000 I don't know, maybe 1.30, 2. 470 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,000 Does Clark say you come in? 471 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,000 No, he's asleep. 472 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000 How long ago did you say you worked for the Stone? 473 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,000 I didn't. 474 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,000 You said I worked for me a year ago. 475 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,000 Is that right? 476 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,000 I guess so. I forgot. 477 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,000 What's this bit about the Stones? 478 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,000 You got no way of proving where you were last night. 479 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,000 Like I said, I don't have to. 480 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,000 That's the way you look at it, mister. 481 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,000 You're in trouble if you can't come up with an alibi we can't break. 482 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,000 That right? 483 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Yeah. 484 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,000 Why? 485 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Because Mrs. Stone got a good look at you. 486 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,000 She couldn't if the lights were out. 487 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,000 Yeah, no, that's clever, Roxford. 488 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,000 You want to tell us about it now? 489 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,000 Come on, Roxford. 490 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,000 All right, I should have known. 491 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,000 I should have known. I never should have done it. 492 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,000 But I didn't have any choice. 493 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000 You can't figure that, can you? 494 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,000 What do you mean? 495 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,000 Well, I owed this money. 496 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,000 The guys are getting tired of waiting. 497 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,000 They said I had to come up with it. 498 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,000 I didn't have any choice. 499 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,000 Is that right? 500 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,000 Sure. 501 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,000 Well, you can see it, can't you? 502 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,000 I had to come up with the money. 503 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,000 I tried to win it back. 504 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,000 The more I played, the more I owed him. 505 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000 There just wasn't any other way. 506 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000 I knew old man Stone had it. 507 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,000 Wasn't doing him any good. 508 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,000 And I needed it. 509 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,000 And I knew where he kept the money. 510 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Who was with you? 511 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,000 Jackie Forbes. 512 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,000 You know where we can find him? 513 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you. 514 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,000 All right, you want to get the stenographer, Frank? 515 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,000 Yeah. 516 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,000 I should have known. 517 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,000 I should have known, but there just wasn't any choice. 518 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,000 There wasn't any other way. 519 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,000 Why'd you kill him? 520 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,000 He knew who I was. 521 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,000 There's no choice. 522 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,000 I had to. 523 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,000 Is that right? 524 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,000 Well, sure, you can see that yourself, can't you? 525 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,000 I couldn't find any other way. 526 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,000 You didn't look very hard, did you? 527 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,000 The story you have just heard was true. 528 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000 The names were changed to protect the innocent. 529 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,000 On December 10th, trial was held in Department 89, 530 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,000 Superior Court of the State of California, 531 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,000 in and for the County of Los Angeles. 532 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,000 In a moment, the results of that trial. 533 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,000 Now, here is our star, Jack Webb. 534 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,000 Thank you, George Fenomen. 535 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000 Friends, as I've told you before, 536 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,000 Chesterfield is the first cigarette to give you 537 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,000 premium quality throughout in both regular and king size. 538 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,000 And Chesterfield is the cigarette that gives you 539 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,000 this scientific report. 540 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,000 No adverse effects to the nose and throat 541 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,000 of a group smoking only Chesterfields. 542 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000 Now, as a two-pack-a-day Chesterfield smoker, 543 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000 I know it's the cigarette that's best for me. 544 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000 They really are much milder. 545 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,000 And I'm sure when you try them, regular or king size, 546 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,000 you'll agree Chesterfield is best for you. 547 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Charles Richard Roxford and Jack Allen Forbes 548 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,000 were tried and convicted of murder in the first degree. 549 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,000 They were executed in the lethal gas chamber 550 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:10,000 at the State Penitentiary, San Quentin, California. 551 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,000 You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases 552 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000 from official files. 553 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000 Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police 554 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,000 W.H. 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