WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:03.800 Sound off for Chesterfield. 00:03.800 --> 00:13.800 Chesterfield, the first cigarette in America to give you premium quality in both regular and king size, brings you greatness. 00:13.800 --> 00:24.800 Ladies and gentlemen, the story you are about to hear is true. 00:24.800 --> 00:27.300 The names have been changed to protect the innocent. 00:27.300 --> 00:36.800 Projector Sergeant, here is trying to rob we detail. 00:36.800 --> 00:39.800 A man has been found in the trunk of an automobile. 00:39.800 --> 00:42.800 He's been badly beaten and is suffering from shock. 00:42.800 --> 00:48.800 Your job, investigate. 00:48.800 --> 00:57.800 Here's what the nation's press has had. 00:57.800 --> 01:00.800 Dragnet, the documented drama of an actual crime. 01:00.800 --> 01:10.800 For the next 30 minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will travel step by step on the side of the law to an actual case transcribed from official police files. 01:10.800 --> 01:20.800 From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is the story of your police force in action. 01:20.800 --> 01:21.800 It was Wednesday, February 18th. 01:21.800 --> 01:23.800 It was rolling in Los Angeles. 01:23.800 --> 01:25.800 We were working the day watch out of robbery detail. 01:25.800 --> 01:29.800 My partner, Frank Smith, the boss, had found two detectives by Monday, Friday. 01:29.800 --> 01:32.800 It was 10.40 in the morning when I got back to the car. 01:32.800 --> 01:35.800 I'm here at one game. 01:35.800 --> 01:36.800 He went out in it. 01:36.800 --> 01:37.800 Was he in? 01:37.800 --> 01:40.800 No, he's the guy doing it. It's a big story like stealing a lunch bucket. 01:40.800 --> 01:41.800 Oh, he's home by 9 o'clock? 01:41.800 --> 01:42.800 Yeah. 01:42.800 --> 01:44.800 There was a call while you were out. Someone locked in a car trunk. 01:44.800 --> 01:45.800 We better roll on it. 01:45.800 --> 01:47.800 Yeah. 01:47.800 --> 01:49.800 What do you think you're about to inform us? 01:49.800 --> 01:52.800 I don't know. There's rain. He's holed up someplace. He's not on the street. 01:52.800 --> 01:55.800 He's your boy, Joe. He never came up with anything more to inform us. 01:55.800 --> 01:56.800 Well, he used to. 01:56.800 --> 01:58.800 It's got to be an awful life now. He can't stay sober long enough. 01:58.800 --> 02:01.800 All he's talking about is driving away. He never seems to get out of it. 02:01.800 --> 02:02.800 Too bad. 02:02.800 --> 02:06.800 We're in good if we give him a chance. If you want to be helped, they're the ones who can do it. 02:06.800 --> 02:09.800 Well, I'll try to catch him in the morning. He's getting late. I'm tired. 02:09.800 --> 02:11.800 Yeah, I could use some sleep. 02:11.800 --> 02:13.800 Hey, when we see this guy, you think he'll be able to give us anything? 02:13.800 --> 02:16.800 I don't know. Can't see him. He might be able to come up with something. 02:16.800 --> 02:20.800 Doesn't think it, Joe. Nice job they've pulled. There's not a rumbling sound on him. 02:20.800 --> 02:22.800 How do you know he's got a clue for identification? 02:22.800 --> 02:26.800 Well, we don't turn him soon. It's going to be out of our hands. He's coming for homicide or whatever. 02:26.800 --> 02:28.800 You think of this country, he might be the same one. 02:28.800 --> 02:30.800 Come up at 10, let's make number 10 for him. 02:30.800 --> 02:32.800 The old man will clean his head off in the morning. 02:32.800 --> 02:35.800 Joe won't help us out there. He'll be sipping milk all day. 02:35.800 --> 02:39.800 He's graduated with a soft boiled egg. This thing will put him right back on the sippy diet. 02:39.800 --> 02:41.800 Poor old Diddy. 02:41.800 --> 02:43.800 Diddy's an ulcer. He just can't win. 02:43.800 --> 02:46.800 Well, we'll see it up there, fellow guy waving the radio card. 02:46.800 --> 02:48.800 Hell yeah. There's 1-8-4 just coming in, too. 02:48.800 --> 02:51.800 Yeah. Let's sit here. 02:51.800 --> 02:53.800 You want to get off my side? 02:53.800 --> 02:54.800 Yeah. 02:54.800 --> 02:56.800 Go ahead. 02:57.800 --> 03:00.800 Right around the corner, officer. I don't want to fall. 03:00.800 --> 03:03.800 Diddy, take him on and get here. I'll do it. You right around here? 03:03.800 --> 03:05.800 Aye, Joe. Frank. 03:05.800 --> 03:06.800 You police officer, too? 03:06.800 --> 03:08.800 Yes, sir. I'm Friday. This is my father, Ted Flair. 03:08.800 --> 03:12.800 I do. I'm Carl Moore. I own the drug store on the corner. I'm the one who found the car, you know. 03:12.800 --> 03:14.800 Yes, sir. If you'd show up the car. 03:14.800 --> 03:16.800 Yeah, sure thing. Around this way. 03:17.800 --> 03:19.800 I'm going way back from this building. 03:19.800 --> 03:21.800 Go over to College Hill for a baby. 03:21.800 --> 03:23.800 That's it. I thought I heard something. 03:23.800 --> 03:26.800 I walked by, then I got to thinking that maybe something might be wrong. 03:26.800 --> 03:27.800 I went back. 03:27.800 --> 03:29.800 I looked in the car, but I couldn't see anything. 03:29.800 --> 03:30.800 Yeah? 03:30.800 --> 03:33.800 I figured that maybe it might be my imagination. You know, maybe something else. 03:33.800 --> 03:36.800 And I heard this voice. Sounded like it was coming from the trunk. 03:36.800 --> 03:38.800 I tried to get it open, but it was locked. 03:38.800 --> 03:39.800 That's when I called you. 03:39.800 --> 03:40.800 Ah, this is? 03:40.800 --> 03:41.800 Yes. 03:41.800 --> 03:43.800 Put your ear against the trunk. You'll probably hear it. 03:43.800 --> 03:44.800 Go around the corner. 03:44.800 --> 03:46.800 Oh, I'm so scared. 03:46.800 --> 03:48.800 I'm going to get this thing open. 03:48.800 --> 03:50.800 There ain't nothing to pry open. 03:50.800 --> 03:51.800 What do you mean, the car? 03:51.800 --> 03:53.800 Oh, wait a minute. Maybe there's something in here. 03:53.800 --> 03:55.800 I'll look, officer. Please don't touch the car. 03:55.800 --> 03:56.800 What? 03:55.800 --> 03:57.800 Don't touch the car, sir. 03:57.800 --> 03:58.800 Oh, sure. You want to look for fingerprints. 03:58.800 --> 04:00.800 I'll get my good story. 04:00.800 --> 04:01.800 There's something in there. 04:01.800 --> 04:02.800 All right, fine. How? 04:02.800 --> 04:03.800 Yeah. 04:03.800 --> 04:04.800 What? You got anything in your trunk? 04:04.800 --> 04:05.800 Yeah, I'll check. 04:05.800 --> 04:06.800 Fine. 04:06.800 --> 04:10.800 Ooh, ooh. All right, sir. We're police officers. We'll get you out. 04:10.800 --> 04:11.800 Same ones, huh, Joe? 04:11.800 --> 04:13.800 Yeah, looks like I'm pulling them all. 04:13.800 --> 04:15.800 I don't think so. You're not going to die, are you? 04:15.800 --> 04:16.800 Yeah. 04:16.800 --> 04:17.800 That's it, it's fine. It's stuck. You want to try it? 04:17.800 --> 04:18.800 Yeah, fine. Here. 04:18.800 --> 04:20.800 Yeah. Let me help you. 04:20.800 --> 04:21.800 Oh, that's right. 04:21.800 --> 04:22.800 All right. 04:22.800 --> 04:23.800 Hey, I think I got it in my hand. 04:23.800 --> 04:24.800 Here. 04:24.800 --> 04:25.800 There. 04:25.800 --> 04:26.800 I'll check it. 04:26.800 --> 04:28.800 I'll get it open. 04:28.800 --> 04:29.800 I'll give you a hand. 04:29.800 --> 04:30.800 All right. 04:30.800 --> 04:32.800 It's all right, sir. 04:32.800 --> 04:34.800 Get you out of there. 04:34.800 --> 04:35.800 I'll get some tape on you. 04:35.800 --> 04:37.800 Good to see everybody's fine. 04:37.800 --> 04:38.800 What's going on? 04:38.800 --> 04:39.800 I have to go too now. 04:39.800 --> 04:40.800 You want to tell us what happened to it? 04:40.800 --> 04:41.800 Sure. 04:41.800 --> 04:43.800 I can't break it. 04:43.800 --> 04:44.800 Better get an ambulance out. 04:44.800 --> 04:45.800 Right. 04:45.800 --> 04:47.800 Hey, let's get him under that awning over there out of the rain. 04:47.800 --> 04:49.800 Right. 04:49.800 --> 04:51.800 I need you more. 04:51.800 --> 04:52.800 What do you think you're doing? 04:52.800 --> 04:53.800 I don't know. 04:53.800 --> 04:54.800 Laying down. 04:54.800 --> 04:56.800 I'll take my coat. 04:56.800 --> 04:58.800 Cover him up. 04:58.800 --> 04:59.800 Yes, sir. 04:59.800 --> 05:00.800 Okay, I'm off, sir. 05:00.800 --> 05:01.800 It's all right. 05:01.800 --> 05:02.800 You already got it open? 05:02.800 --> 05:03.800 Yes, sir. 05:03.800 --> 05:04.800 We did. 05:04.800 --> 05:05.800 A little bitty screwdriver probably wouldn't have worked anyway. 05:05.800 --> 05:06.800 Oh, thank you anyway, sir. 05:06.800 --> 05:07.800 Good thing. 05:07.800 --> 05:08.800 Anything else I can do for you? 05:08.800 --> 05:09.800 No, sir. 05:09.800 --> 05:10.800 It's all right. 05:10.800 --> 05:11.800 Nothing you need? 05:11.800 --> 05:12.800 Nothing at all? 05:12.800 --> 05:13.800 Well, I don't know if you got a good memory for all of this. 05:13.800 --> 05:14.800 1101 DM. 05:14.800 --> 05:15.800 The ambulance arrived and took the victim to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital. 05:15.800 --> 05:16.800 Frank and I followed in our car. 05:16.800 --> 05:17.800 The creature was in the car. 05:17.800 --> 05:18.800 We were in the car. 05:18.800 --> 05:19.800 We were in the car. 05:19.800 --> 05:20.800 We were in the car. 05:20.800 --> 05:21.800 We were in the car. 05:21.800 --> 05:22.800 We were in the car. 05:22.800 --> 05:24.800 We were in the car. 05:24.800 --> 05:29.800 This was the tenth in a series of kidnappings in which the suspects had pulled cars to use 05:29.800 --> 05:30.800 in armed robberies. 05:30.800 --> 05:33.800 After beating the victims, they locked them in the trunk of the car, and after completion 05:33.800 --> 05:38.800 of the robberies, they'd abandoned the automobile with the victims tied to the egg in the trunk. 05:38.800 --> 05:41.800 Although today none of the victims had been killed, we knew it was only a matter of time 05:41.800 --> 05:45.800 until the suspects kidnapped somebody who was being capable of failing the treatment 05:45.800 --> 05:49.800 and was not only other robberies but a murder to deal with. 05:49.800 --> 05:52.800 The holdups had been going on for a period of six weeks. 05:52.800 --> 05:55.800 Frank and I followed up what leads and assured that they brought us nothing. 05:55.800 --> 05:59.800 None of the victims could describe the suspect, other than the telephone with mail, why Americans, 05:59.800 --> 06:02.800 and that one of them spoke with a certain draw. 06:02.800 --> 06:03.800 1117 DM. 06:03.800 --> 06:05.800 We arrived at the hospital. 06:05.800 --> 06:08.800 The victim had been placed in treatment room number three. 06:08.800 --> 06:10.800 Dr. George Hall was treating him. 06:10.800 --> 06:12.800 Frank and I went into the room to talk to the doctor. 06:12.800 --> 06:13.800 Hi, Joe. 06:13.800 --> 06:14.800 Frank. 06:14.800 --> 06:15.800 Hi, Danny. 06:15.800 --> 06:16.800 How is he? 06:16.800 --> 06:17.800 Oh, he's all right. 06:17.800 --> 06:18.800 Suffering from shock. 06:18.800 --> 06:19.800 I'll get him a setter, just quiet him down. 06:19.800 --> 06:20.800 He'll be okay in a few minutes. 06:20.800 --> 06:21.800 What happened today? 06:21.800 --> 06:22.800 He had a trouble bandage again. 06:22.800 --> 06:23.800 Is he going to be okay? 06:23.800 --> 06:24.800 Yeah, I'll be all right in 15 or 20 minutes. 06:24.800 --> 06:25.800 You know his name? 06:25.800 --> 06:26.800 I want to make other treatments for him. 06:26.800 --> 06:27.800 No, Pat, I'll let the poor boy get it. 06:27.800 --> 06:28.800 He's coming around now. 06:28.800 --> 06:29.800 You're all right now, Paula. 06:29.800 --> 06:30.800 Just relax, take it easy. 06:30.800 --> 06:31.800 Here, see if you can sit up here on the edge of the table. 06:31.800 --> 06:32.800 Joe? 06:32.800 --> 06:33.800 Yeah, Doc. 06:33.800 --> 06:34.800 You want to pour a glass of water, cup silver down the wall? 06:34.800 --> 06:35.800 Yeah, sure. 06:35.800 --> 06:49.800 I'll get you some water, sir. 06:49.800 --> 06:54.800 That's it. 06:54.800 --> 07:05.800 Easy. 07:05.800 --> 07:06.800 Thank you. 07:06.800 --> 07:07.800 Sure, go ahead. 07:07.800 --> 07:08.800 What do you hear the telephone happening? 07:08.800 --> 07:09.800 Yeah, about a quarter to eight, made that to my wife. 07:09.800 --> 07:10.800 Said we were out of coffee. 07:10.800 --> 07:11.800 We were having a late dinner, so while she was finishing fixing it, I went out to get 07:11.800 --> 07:12.800 something. 07:12.800 --> 07:13.800 I got down to Pico and Union, signal was working, stop. 07:13.800 --> 07:14.800 I pulled up. 07:14.800 --> 07:15.800 There were two guys standing on the safety zone. 07:15.800 --> 07:16.800 You know, they were all standing on the safety zone. 07:16.800 --> 07:17.800 They were all standing on the safety zone. 07:17.800 --> 07:18.800 They were all standing on the safety zone. 07:18.800 --> 07:26.800 You know, like they were waiting for a street car. 07:26.800 --> 07:31.800 I thought the time when a lousy thing happened, standing out in the rain waiting for a street 07:31.800 --> 07:32.800 car. 07:32.800 --> 07:33.800 Go ahead. 07:33.800 --> 07:34.800 Well, the next thing I knew, one of them opened the door up in front. 07:34.800 --> 07:35.800 When they opened the door, figured that maybe it was somebody that knew me. 07:35.800 --> 07:36.800 It was dark, you know. 07:36.800 --> 07:37.800 Couldn't see very well. 07:37.800 --> 07:38.800 The other one opened the back door and got right in the car. 07:38.800 --> 07:39.800 I knew very soon. 07:39.800 --> 07:40.800 I didn't know these guys. 07:40.800 --> 07:41.800 But, well, the fellow in front had a very good eye. 07:41.800 --> 07:42.800 He was a very good boy. 07:42.800 --> 07:43.800 He was a very good boy. 07:43.800 --> 07:44.800 He was a very good boy. 07:44.800 --> 07:45.800 He was a very good boy. 07:45.800 --> 07:46.800 He was a very good boy. 07:46.800 --> 07:47.800 He was a very good boy. 07:47.800 --> 07:48.800 He was a very good boy. 07:48.800 --> 07:49.800 He was a very good boy. 07:49.800 --> 07:50.800 He was a very good boy. 07:50.800 --> 07:51.800 He was a very good boy. 07:51.800 --> 07:52.800 He was a very good boy. 07:52.800 --> 07:53.800 Let's go back to the factory and get some money. 07:53.800 --> 07:54.800 Come on. 07:54.800 --> 07:55.800 Coming out of the factory. 07:55.800 --> 07:56.800 Yeah. 07:56.800 --> 07:57.800 Well, the fellow in front had a gun pointed right at me, looked like a can, the biggest 07:57.800 --> 07:58.800 gun I ever saw. 07:58.800 --> 07:59.800 Told me I was scared. 07:59.800 --> 08:00.800 He told me to pull up the curtain. 08:00.800 --> 08:01.800 Now I did. 08:01.800 --> 08:02.800 So I had him then. 08:02.800 --> 08:03.800 He told me to get in the back seat. 08:03.800 --> 08:04.800 I told them I can take my money, car, whatever they wanted. 08:04.800 --> 08:05.800 Just let me go. 08:05.800 --> 08:06.800 The guy in the back told me to shut up and get back there with him. 08:06.800 --> 08:09.800 I asked him if I could let go. 08:09.800 --> 08:11.380 Told him I wouldn't say anything. 08:11.380 --> 08:15.380 They said that they'd just let me go. I wouldn't tell anyone. I was scared, you know. 08:15.380 --> 08:19.380 Yeah, I totally understand. Guy in the front got a real wild look in his eye. 08:19.380 --> 08:24.380 Looked like he was crazy. I tried to get out of the car and he hit me. 08:24.380 --> 08:28.380 Right in the head with that gun. Then they grabbed me, threw me in the back seat, 08:28.380 --> 08:32.380 held me right over the front, just got me on the floor in the back. 08:32.380 --> 08:34.380 Uh-huh. What'd you do then? 08:34.380 --> 08:36.380 Oh, nothing. I just played. 08:36.380 --> 08:39.380 Figured that maybe they'd take out without calling me along. 08:39.380 --> 08:41.380 What happened? 08:41.380 --> 08:44.380 Well, the guy in the back took a roll of adhesive tape out of his pocket, 08:44.380 --> 08:46.380 wrapped around my wrist and ankles. 08:46.380 --> 08:48.380 What'd they do then? 08:48.380 --> 08:51.380 Well, they still thought I was knocked out. 08:51.380 --> 08:54.380 The guy in the front said, get me out of the car. 08:54.380 --> 08:58.380 They fell open. The door lifted me out, picked me up like a sack of potatoes. 08:58.380 --> 09:02.380 Guy went around, ran around, opened the trunk, and they threw me in. 09:02.380 --> 09:07.380 One of my legs was over the bumper and the big guy grabbed it and twisted it so it had fed in the trunk. 09:07.380 --> 09:10.380 I almost died, but I didn't tell them I wasn't out. 09:10.380 --> 09:14.380 And after that, they locked the car and drove away. 09:14.380 --> 09:17.380 They drove for a while and they stopped. 09:17.380 --> 09:20.380 You got any idea how long they drove, sir? How far? 09:20.380 --> 09:23.380 No. I couldn't see anything. Couldn't hear much. 09:23.380 --> 09:25.380 Just a little mumbling. 09:25.380 --> 09:27.380 I know they stopped the gas station, though. 09:27.380 --> 09:29.380 Well, how'd that happen? 09:29.380 --> 09:32.380 Well, right after we stopped, I heard one of them yell at somebody. 09:32.380 --> 09:35.380 I couldn't tell what he was yelling, but it's been a little while. 09:35.380 --> 09:39.380 I heard somebody come back, take the gas cap off of the tank. 09:39.380 --> 09:43.380 And I heard the gas go in the tank right in front of the trunk. 09:43.380 --> 09:46.380 Well, that's the guy that put the cap back on the tank. 09:46.380 --> 09:48.380 I heard one of the guys say something about stick up. 09:48.380 --> 09:52.380 Why would we stop? Did you try to let the gas table set it low if you were in the trunk? 09:52.380 --> 09:54.380 Oh, shoot. 09:54.380 --> 09:58.380 And I tried to kick the trunk, but the way they twisted my leg, put me in, I couldn't move. 09:58.380 --> 10:02.380 They gagged me, too. Put a big piece of adhesive tape over my mouth. 10:02.380 --> 10:06.380 Well, sir, I tried to let the guy know. I just couldn't do it. 10:06.380 --> 10:08.380 You said if you heard one of them say, this is a stick up. 10:08.380 --> 10:12.380 Yeah. Those were the words they used, too. This is a stick up. 10:12.380 --> 10:14.380 Uh-huh. Well, if you go ahead, sir. 10:14.380 --> 10:17.380 Well, there was some quiet talking after that. 10:17.380 --> 10:20.380 I couldn't tell what was going on, and they drove away again. 10:20.380 --> 10:22.380 You had no idea where the gas station was. 10:22.380 --> 10:27.380 No. I'm sorry, but I was being bounced around the trunk. 10:27.380 --> 10:29.380 My head hurt when they hit me. 10:29.380 --> 10:34.380 I know they turned some corners, but I couldn't even guess where the station might be. 10:34.380 --> 10:36.380 All right. Guess what happened then? 10:36.380 --> 10:40.380 Same thing. They'd drive for a while, and then they'd stop. 10:40.380 --> 10:44.380 They'd get out of the car, then come back. We'd start to drive again. 10:44.380 --> 10:47.380 Well, finally they parked. I waited for them to come back. 10:47.380 --> 10:51.380 They didn't. I tried to get the gag off my mouth, so I could yell for help. 10:51.380 --> 10:55.380 I rubbed my face against the spare tire and got loose. 10:55.380 --> 10:59.380 Then I yelled, kicked my feet against the trunk. 10:59.380 --> 11:01.380 I just about gave up when you found me. 11:01.380 --> 11:03.380 I'm sure I was through. 11:03.380 --> 11:05.380 It's getting hard to breathe in there. 11:05.380 --> 11:06.380 I can imagine. 11:06.380 --> 11:09.380 No, you can't. Until you've been locked in the trunk. 11:09.380 --> 11:12.380 Nobody can imagine that. 11:12.380 --> 11:15.380 Terrible. Just terrible. 11:15.380 --> 11:18.380 Say, have you called me? That's my wife. Have you called her? 11:18.380 --> 11:19.380 No, sir, we haven't. 11:19.380 --> 11:21.380 Oh, she'll be a hot, hot man. What time is it? 11:21.380 --> 11:23.380 It's 1145. 11:23.380 --> 11:27.380 Four hours to get a pound of coffee. She'll be raising her roof. 11:27.380 --> 11:28.380 Would you call her? Tell her where I am? 11:28.380 --> 11:29.380 Yes, sir, I'll call her. 11:29.380 --> 11:31.380 Want to give me the number? 11:31.380 --> 11:34.380 Madison 3-4656. 11:34.380 --> 11:36.380 Tell her you're calling for Henry. Explain what happened. 11:36.380 --> 11:39.380 All right, I'll be right away. 11:39.380 --> 11:43.380 Auditor, be sure to tell her you're a policeman. She'll believe you. 11:43.380 --> 11:46.380 Yes, sir. 11:46.380 --> 11:49.380 I have a couple questions, sir. I have to solve this card. 11:49.380 --> 11:53.380 I hate to ask. Could I have another couple of ones? 11:53.380 --> 11:56.380 I'll get it. 11:56.380 --> 11:58.380 What do you want to know? 11:58.380 --> 12:00.380 Your full name? 12:00.380 --> 12:01.380 Henry J. Hilde. 12:01.380 --> 12:03.380 H-I-L-L-D-A-L-E? 12:03.380 --> 12:06.380 Uh-huh. 12:06.380 --> 12:08.380 All right, see you in a while. 12:08.380 --> 12:12.380 Thank you. 12:12.380 --> 12:14.380 I don't know why I'm so thirsty. 12:14.380 --> 12:16.380 I got in the trunk, I guess. Got in the trunk. 12:16.380 --> 12:19.380 Yes. What's your address, Mr. Hilde? 12:19.380 --> 12:22.380 920 North Lebanon Avenue. 12:22.380 --> 12:24.380 Phone number is Madison 3-4656. 12:24.380 --> 12:26.380 4-6-5-6. 12:26.380 --> 12:27.380 How old? 12:27.380 --> 12:28.380 48. 12:28.380 --> 12:30.380 It's 49, it's October. 12:30.380 --> 12:34.380 All right, Mr. Hilde. You have a way to get home. We'll run him home, Doc. 12:34.380 --> 12:36.380 What about my car? Can't I take it? 12:36.380 --> 12:41.380 Well, we're going to have to pocket the fingerprints so we can release it to you in the morning. 12:41.380 --> 12:42.380 You called me? 12:42.380 --> 12:44.380 Yes, sir. I just talked to her. 12:44.380 --> 12:45.380 Where's she store? 12:45.380 --> 12:47.380 Well, she was a little upset, worried about you. 12:47.380 --> 12:50.380 But she told her about what happened. 12:50.380 --> 12:52.380 Yes, sir. Everything's all right now. 12:52.380 --> 12:53.380 That's good. 12:53.380 --> 12:58.380 Mr. Hilde, you can leave now. I suggest you see your own doctor in the morning just to check up. 12:58.380 --> 13:03.380 Oh, all right. Well, thanks a lot for your trouble. Sure appreciate it. 13:03.380 --> 13:07.380 That's okay. 13:07.380 --> 13:09.380 You know, just this way, all the way down here. 13:09.380 --> 13:13.380 Oh, yes. 13:13.380 --> 13:16.380 I'll get the baton for her. 13:16.380 --> 13:18.380 Thanks, sorry, Joe. 13:18.380 --> 13:20.380 One big trouble. 13:20.380 --> 13:21.380 What's that? 13:21.380 --> 13:25.380 We're hearing it too often. 13:25.380 --> 13:31.380 12.18 p.m. We left Jersey City City Hospital and drove Mr. Hildale back to his home. 13:31.380 --> 13:35.380 On the way we asked him for a description, but he was only able to give us the very major one. 13:35.380 --> 13:38.380 We did hear enough information from him for our crime report. 13:38.380 --> 13:42.380 He told us he'd come in the next day to look through the mug books. 13:42.380 --> 13:46.380 We checked into the city hall, got a D.I. number, and filled out the crime report. 13:46.380 --> 13:48.380 We booked the adhesive tape as evidence. 13:48.380 --> 13:52.380 The information on the robbery suspected school that night had come into the office. 13:52.380 --> 13:58.380 There had been three of them, and among them was a service station Mr. Hildale had told us about. 13:58.380 --> 14:02.380 At 1.46 a.m., Frank and I signed out of the office and went home to get some sleep. 14:02.380 --> 14:05.380 7.58 a.m. We talked with Captain Didion. 14:05.380 --> 14:08.380 Here's the description we got from the service station, Lieutenant. 14:08.380 --> 14:10.380 Yes, sir. 14:10.380 --> 14:12.380 Hey, guys. 14:12.380 --> 14:14.380 Want to hand me that milk? 14:14.380 --> 14:16.380 Yeah, there you are. 14:16.380 --> 14:19.380 Stomachs clear, didn't you, King? 14:24.380 --> 14:27.380 This is a potential kidnapping, the 23rd robbery. 14:27.380 --> 14:29.380 One of you two is going to get off the dime and bring those guys in. 14:29.380 --> 14:31.380 Oh, do it again, Skipper, you know that. 14:31.380 --> 14:34.380 And it's not enough. I know you guys have been beating your heads against the wall on this thing, 14:34.380 --> 14:36.380 but the corner pocket's on my back and we've got to break it. 14:36.380 --> 14:38.380 We've contacted all our informants. 14:38.380 --> 14:41.380 We've run out of every lead that's turned up. They all go to the same place. 14:41.380 --> 14:43.380 I'm going to achieve every excuse I can. 14:43.380 --> 14:47.380 I'm not going to try to sell them anymore. I don't think you'd buy them. 14:47.380 --> 14:52.380 You know what? The guys who are pulling these jobs, they're flesh and blood. They eat and sleep. 14:52.380 --> 14:57.380 Somebody in town knows them. They're not fainted, but it's fine. 14:57.380 --> 14:59.380 These guys aren't the brainiest ones in the world. 14:59.380 --> 15:02.380 If they were, they wouldn't be getting the cars the way they do. 15:02.380 --> 15:04.380 Oh, yeah, that's figured. 15:04.380 --> 15:06.380 How about the cars, my name's Hing? 15:06.380 --> 15:10.380 They said the car was dried up to work on it. I couldn't tell if they were old, so they thought that. 15:10.380 --> 15:13.380 I've been going over their crime reports. I've nearly got an idea. 15:13.380 --> 15:14.380 What? 15:14.380 --> 15:18.380 The way it looks, they picked up the cars in one area, pulled the jobs in the same area. 15:18.380 --> 15:20.380 It could be that they live in that area. 15:20.380 --> 15:24.380 They've been working inside a 30 square block, straight down a hill, 7th to Peacock. 15:24.380 --> 15:30.380 I've got a description on them. Talk to the desk clerks at every hotel and boarding house in the area. 15:30.380 --> 15:32.380 Where are they, did you? 15:32.380 --> 15:33.380 Yeah, he's here. 15:33.380 --> 15:36.380 See you, Jim. 15:36.380 --> 15:37.380 This side. 15:37.380 --> 15:39.380 What do you have here? 15:39.380 --> 15:41.380 Hmm? 15:41.380 --> 15:44.380 You bet. That's the way it goes sometimes. 15:44.380 --> 15:46.380 Yeah, well, thanks a lot. 15:46.380 --> 15:47.380 Bergman? 15:47.380 --> 15:50.380 Yeah, he just finished the car. It's cool, not a thing on it. 15:50.380 --> 16:02.380 930 AM. Mr. Hildale got to the city hall and I took him into the mud room to look at the books. 16:02.380 --> 16:05.380 Fogged out in Texas suits and the police spinning around. 16:05.380 --> 16:10.380 We gave him the description of the suspect's NLMO and the fact that one of them spoke to the seven accents. 16:10.380 --> 16:17.380 We asked him to write off 500 flyers for distribution in the area that we were going to canvas. 1215 PM. 16:17.380 --> 16:20.380 Sorry, Sergeant, didn't recognize any of them. 16:20.380 --> 16:21.380 Oh, that's all right. I understand. 16:21.380 --> 16:27.380 I don't think his picture was there. I'd feel awful if I saw it and didn't recognize it, but I'm pretty sure you just don't have a picture of the man. 16:27.380 --> 16:30.380 Well, maybe you'd like to rest a little bit before you look at any more. 16:30.380 --> 16:35.380 Yes, I can. I get a little confused looking at so many. After a while they all begin to look alike. 16:35.380 --> 16:36.380 Joe, yeah? 16:36.380 --> 16:37.380 See you later. 16:37.380 --> 16:39.380 Sure, sir. Excuse me, Mr. Hildale. 16:39.380 --> 16:40.380 Of course. 16:40.380 --> 16:43.380 Joe, what? 16:43.380 --> 16:44.380 Yeah? 16:44.380 --> 16:45.380 It's got a call from Sally Sutton. 16:45.380 --> 16:46.380 San Francisco? 16:46.380 --> 16:47.380 Yeah. 16:47.380 --> 16:48.380 I think they got our boy. 16:48.380 --> 17:03.380 You are listening to Dragnet, the authentic story of your police force in action. 17:03.380 --> 17:19.380 Folks would tell me that in talking to Inspector Sutton of the San Francisco Police Department he found out that they had one of the suspects. 17:19.380 --> 17:22.380 Sutton said he was apprehended after he kidnapped the one who stopped for a boulevard stop. 17:22.380 --> 17:25.380 The suspect would tape the man up and throw him in the trunk of the automobile. 17:25.380 --> 17:32.380 Sutton would argue that a witness along the street had called the police and tells them a description of the car and the license number. 17:32.380 --> 17:40.380 The kidnapper was apprehended immediately. He refused to talk and further investigation disclosed that the suspect was a PZ from Los Angeles. 17:40.380 --> 17:46.380 Inspector Sutton told us that he sent a stand-up mug to the suspect by email special delivery. 17:46.380 --> 17:51.380 The following morning when he received the mug, he showed them to the victims of the robberies in the Los Angeles area. 17:51.380 --> 18:00.380 Several of them positively identified the man. Others stated that he resembled the suspect and some of the victims were unable to give any identification of the suspect at all. 18:00.380 --> 18:08.380 In view of the circumstances, Falcon, I were ordered to take two of the most reliable witnesses up to San Francisco in order to observe the suspect in person. 18:08.380 --> 18:14.380 We found the out of town book, checked out a trip car, picked up our witnesses and left for the Bay Area. 18:14.380 --> 18:21.380 Seven fifteen p.m. we checked into the San Francisco Police Station on Training Street. A special show up with the remains of a victim from Los Angeles. 18:21.380 --> 18:27.380 They failed to give a positive identification of the suspect but both of them said that he could be one of the men involved in the robbery. 18:27.380 --> 18:32.380 Eight twenty p.m. we talked to the suspect, a Jack Webster, in Inspector Sutton's office. 18:32.380 --> 18:34.380 What are you guys trying to prove? 18:34.380 --> 18:36.380 We're not trying to prove anything. Let's do what we want to fast. 18:36.380 --> 18:38.380 Well that's what I'm giving you. Seems like when you get them you don't want to lose them. 18:38.380 --> 18:40.380 Look, we got two people outside that came all the way up here from L.A. 18:40.380 --> 18:43.380 Both of them say you're the guy who stole their cars and beat them up. 18:43.380 --> 18:44.380 Well they're both crazy. 18:44.380 --> 18:47.380 According to the reports, you pulled a kidnapping just like the ones we pulled out south. How about that? 18:47.380 --> 18:49.380 So it looks the same. That mean I did it? 18:49.380 --> 18:50.380 Looks like it. 18:50.380 --> 18:53.380 We ran your names to R&I down in Los Angeles. There's a cab on your car for PZs. You know that? 18:53.380 --> 18:54.380 What? 18:54.380 --> 18:56.380 Galloway in Los Angeles wants you for parole violation. 18:56.380 --> 18:58.380 Oh, well I think I can explain that. 18:58.380 --> 19:01.380 I don't think he can. Webster Galloway says he hasn't heard from you for the past six weeks. 19:01.380 --> 19:04.380 That's how long these robberies have been going on. You look awful good for him. 19:04.380 --> 19:08.380 So I maybe skipped town. I was going to report up here. I got a job. Now I'm trying to go straight. 19:08.380 --> 19:10.380 How about the job they got you for now? 19:10.380 --> 19:12.380 I needed a little extra dough. You know, some came up. 19:12.380 --> 19:14.380 I read about those jobs in L.A. I figured it might work for me. 19:14.380 --> 19:16.380 I thought maybe you'd figure it was the same guy. 19:16.380 --> 19:17.380 Yeah, we do. 19:17.380 --> 19:18.380 Now you got it all wrong. 19:18.380 --> 19:21.380 Sure you got me nailed for this one, but that's all. I had nothing to do with him in L.A. 19:21.380 --> 19:22.380 I witnessed a few other things. 19:22.380 --> 19:26.380 I tell you, witnesses, they're full of cheese. I didn't have anything to do with him. 19:26.380 --> 19:28.380 Now I'm sorry, but you got me tagged for a job up here. Nothing else. 19:28.380 --> 19:29.380 How'd you figure that? 19:29.380 --> 19:32.380 Well, how long you say those jokes has been working in L.A. about six weeks? 19:32.380 --> 19:34.380 When you got nothing on me. 19:34.380 --> 19:37.380 Sure, I have less time for a month and a half and I can prove it. 19:37.380 --> 19:45.380 Jack Webster told us that he's been registered at a hotel on Gary Street for the past month and a half. 19:45.380 --> 19:50.380 Further, he said that he's been working in a foundry in South Wofford, just go through the same period of time. 19:50.380 --> 19:53.380 We checked both of the places out and found that he was telling the truth. 19:53.380 --> 19:58.380 He was filed on in San Francisco for grand theft auto and kidnapping. 19:58.380 --> 20:04.380 Sunday, February 22nd, we arrived back in Los Angeles, took our witnesses to their homes and checked into the office. 20:04.380 --> 20:08.380 We called Captain Gideon and found that there had been no new developments in the case. 20:08.380 --> 20:14.380 Frank and I went home to get some sweets. Monday morning, 7.45 a.m., we signed into the office. 20:14.380 --> 20:18.380 We picked up supplies and started to camp at the area where we thought the holdup men were living. 20:18.380 --> 20:22.380 During the first day, we were able to check out 28 places. 20:22.380 --> 20:25.380 Tuesday, the 24th, it started to rain again. 20:25.380 --> 20:31.380 At 8.30 a.m., we started to camp at the rest of the hotel's rooming houses and boarding houses in the area. 20:31.380 --> 20:34.380 For three days, we talked of the day and the night curtain each place. 20:34.380 --> 20:38.380 We left each of them a flyer with the description of the men and our time, 20:38.380 --> 20:43.380 asking them to call if anyone else in the description should register at their particular place. 20:43.380 --> 20:48.380 For three days, it started on Saturday, February 28th. 20:48.380 --> 20:51.380 You think the love has stopped, Joe? 20:51.380 --> 20:53.380 Yes, it is left. 20:53.380 --> 20:54.380 Yeah. 20:54.380 --> 20:59.380 It's like the guys we want to drop off the face of the earth, nobody's seen or heard of them. 20:59.380 --> 21:01.380 I never realized there were so many hotels in LA. 21:01.380 --> 21:04.380 Well, there's a lot of them. 21:04.380 --> 21:05.380 Well, let's try this one. 21:05.380 --> 21:07.380 All right. 21:10.380 --> 21:12.380 Here's something to walk. 21:12.380 --> 21:14.380 We're going to call the police officers, sir, with our ID. 21:14.380 --> 21:15.380 What, sir? 21:15.380 --> 21:16.380 Police officers. 21:16.380 --> 21:17.380 Oh, oh, police. 21:17.380 --> 21:18.380 That's right, sir. 21:18.380 --> 21:20.380 Yeah. Well, what do you want? 21:20.380 --> 21:24.380 We'd like to know if you got anyone here who answers these descriptions. 21:24.380 --> 21:25.380 Like this, huh? 21:25.380 --> 21:26.380 Yes, sir. 21:26.380 --> 21:30.380 Well, it's kind of hard to say. If you had a picture of them, it might help. 21:30.380 --> 21:33.380 I'm sorry, sir, we don't have a picture, just that description. 21:33.380 --> 21:38.380 It could be the fellows with four A's and still think we'll be searching, huh? 21:38.380 --> 21:41.380 Yeah, I bet it's them. I knew we should have called you fellows about. 21:41.380 --> 21:42.380 Sir? 21:42.380 --> 21:48.380 See, the day before yesterday, Amy, she's the girl, you know, teams up with taking care of the rooms. 21:48.380 --> 21:51.380 She said that she opened the closet, she saw a gun laying on the shelf. 21:51.380 --> 21:53.380 You know what? They're right out in the open. 21:53.380 --> 21:54.380 Did you report that to the police? 21:54.380 --> 21:55.380 Huh? What'd you say? 21:55.380 --> 21:56.380 Did you report it to the police? 21:56.380 --> 21:59.380 Oh, no. No, no, I didn't. 21:59.380 --> 22:05.380 You see, I figured that, you know, living, not living, didn't cause any trouble about the cause. 22:05.380 --> 22:10.380 And Amy talked about whether we should let you know, but then we decided against it. 22:10.380 --> 22:12.380 I said, I don't see no issues. 22:12.380 --> 22:14.380 Why didn't you tell us when you saw them last, sir? 22:14.380 --> 22:16.380 Oh, well, a couple of hours ago. 22:16.380 --> 22:17.380 They registered here? 22:17.380 --> 22:23.380 Yeah, and they started that with us. They're up in room four A. Ain't there now, though? 22:23.380 --> 22:29.380 Well, I'll be darned if he ain't there. Well, I guess not, I'm sad. 22:29.380 --> 22:32.380 Huh, I must have given them the key and didn't remember. 22:32.380 --> 22:34.380 That's room four A, she said. 22:34.380 --> 22:35.380 What'd you say? 22:35.380 --> 22:36.380 I said that's room four A. 22:36.380 --> 22:40.380 Four A? Yeah, that's right, four A, four four. They're up there now. 22:40.380 --> 22:42.380 Thank you, sir. 22:42.380 --> 22:47.380 Hey, uh, what do you want it for? The dangerous criminals? 22:47.380 --> 22:48.380 Well, we don't know, sir. 22:48.380 --> 22:51.380 Well, be careful, you know, we wouldn't want anything to happen. 22:51.380 --> 22:54.380 Yes, sir. 22:54.380 --> 22:58.380 Here, I'll get the button. 22:58.380 --> 23:00.380 What'd he say to you, Joe? 23:00.380 --> 23:01.380 I don't know. 23:01.380 --> 23:06.380 We'll go through our boys. 23:06.380 --> 23:14.380 Yeah, listen to me. 23:14.380 --> 23:18.380 Down this way. 23:18.380 --> 23:24.380 Room two, room four, room six. Here it is. 23:24.380 --> 23:25.380 You want to cover me? 23:25.380 --> 23:29.380 Yeah. 23:29.380 --> 23:31.380 Where is it? Room first. 23:31.380 --> 23:32.380 Why, what? 23:32.380 --> 23:33.380 Mike's after you. 23:33.380 --> 23:37.380 Ah, I guess I'm in. 23:37.380 --> 23:38.380 I told you, anyway, you ain't going to move. 23:38.380 --> 23:43.380 Watch out, watch out! 23:43.380 --> 23:45.380 All right, sir, on your feet. 23:45.380 --> 23:46.380 Come on. 23:46.380 --> 23:47.380 How about the other one? 23:47.380 --> 23:48.380 He's out. 23:48.380 --> 23:50.380 Here, I'll take him down for you. 23:50.380 --> 23:53.380 Stupid, you point stupid. I told him, told him a hundred times. 23:53.380 --> 23:55.380 Stand still. You told him what? 23:55.380 --> 23:58.380 That we should have left. Get out of this lousy town, going back home. 23:58.380 --> 23:59.380 Yeah, all right, let's go. 23:59.380 --> 24:02.380 Back in a can this time, we'll never get out of him and his big ideas. 24:02.380 --> 24:04.380 Smart guy, old ad to big brains. 24:04.380 --> 24:05.380 It's right, Joe. 24:05.380 --> 24:07.380 Yeah, well, maybe you'll make it this time. 24:07.380 --> 24:16.380 You'll have a lot of time to convince him. 24:16.380 --> 24:18.380 The story you have just heard was true. 24:18.380 --> 24:21.380 The names were changed to protect the innocent. 24:21.380 --> 24:24.380 On the 17th, trial was held in Superior Court, Department 87, 24:24.380 --> 24:27.380 City and County of Los Angeles, State of California. 24:27.380 --> 24:29.380 In a moment, the results of that trial. 24:29.380 --> 24:43.380 Andrew J. Scott and Edward F. Winters were tried and convicted on 12 counts of robbery in the first degree 24:43.380 --> 24:46.380 and 10 counts of kidnapping for the purposes of robbery. 24:46.380 --> 24:49.380 They are now serving their terms in the state penitentiary. 24:49.380 --> 24:53.380 A hold has been placed on them in the event of parole by the State of Arkansas. 24:53.380 --> 25:00.380 First degree robbery is punishable by imprisonment in the state penitentiary for from five years to life for each count. 25:00.380 --> 25:23.380 In the case of Scott and Winters, these sentences are to run consecutively.