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Chesterfield, the first cigarette in America to give you premium quality in both regular and king size, brings you greatness.

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Ladies and gentlemen, the story you are about to hear is true.

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Projector Sergeant, here is trying to rob we detail.

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A man has been found in the trunk of an automobile.

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He's been badly beaten and is suffering from shock.

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Your job, investigate.

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Here's what the nation's press has had.

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Dragnet, the documented drama of an actual crime.

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For the next 30 minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will travel step by step on the side of the law to an actual case transcribed from official police files.

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From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is the story of your police force in action.

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It was Wednesday, February 18th.

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It was rolling in Los Angeles.

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We were working the day watch out of robbery detail.

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My partner, Frank Smith, the boss, had found two detectives by Monday, Friday.

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It was 10.40 in the morning when I got back to the car.

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I'm here at one game.

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He went out in it.

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Was he in?

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No, he's the guy doing it. It's a big story like stealing a lunch bucket.

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Oh, he's home by 9 o'clock?

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Yeah.

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There was a call while you were out. Someone locked in a car trunk.

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We better roll on it.

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Yeah.

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What do you think you're about to inform us?

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I don't know. There's rain. He's holed up someplace. He's not on the street.

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He's your boy, Joe. He never came up with anything more to inform us.

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Well, he used to.

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It's got to be an awful life now. He can't stay sober long enough.

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All he's talking about is driving away. He never seems to get out of it.

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Too bad.

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We're in good if we give him a chance. If you want to be helped, they're the ones who can do it.

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Well, I'll try to catch him in the morning. He's getting late. I'm tired.

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Yeah, I could use some sleep.

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Hey, when we see this guy, you think he'll be able to give us anything?

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I don't know. Can't see him. He might be able to come up with something.

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Doesn't think it, Joe. Nice job they've pulled. There's not a rumbling sound on him.

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How do you know he's got a clue for identification?

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Well, we don't turn him soon. It's going to be out of our hands. He's coming for homicide or whatever.

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You think of this country, he might be the same one.

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Come up at 10, let's make number 10 for him.

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The old man will clean his head off in the morning.

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Joe won't help us out there. He'll be sipping milk all day.

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He's graduated with a soft boiled egg. This thing will put him right back on the sippy diet.

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Poor old Diddy.

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Diddy's an ulcer. He just can't win.

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Well, we'll see it up there, fellow guy waving the radio card.

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Hell yeah. There's 1-8-4 just coming in, too.

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Yeah. Let's sit here.

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You want to get off my side?

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Yeah.

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Go ahead.

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Right around the corner, officer. I don't want to fall.

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Diddy, take him on and get here. I'll do it. You right around here?

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Aye, Joe. Frank.

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You police officer, too?

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Yes, sir. I'm Friday. This is my father, Ted Flair.

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I do. I'm Carl Moore. I own the drug store on the corner. I'm the one who found the car, you know.

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Yes, sir. If you'd show up the car.

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Yeah, sure thing. Around this way.

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I'm going way back from this building.

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Go over to College Hill for a baby.

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That's it. I thought I heard something.

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I walked by, then I got to thinking that maybe something might be wrong.

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I went back.

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I looked in the car, but I couldn't see anything.

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Yeah?

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I figured that maybe it might be my imagination. You know, maybe something else.

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And I heard this voice. Sounded like it was coming from the trunk.

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I tried to get it open, but it was locked.

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That's when I called you.

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Ah, this is?

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Yes.

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Put your ear against the trunk. You'll probably hear it.

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Go around the corner.

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Oh, I'm so scared.

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I'm going to get this thing open.

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There ain't nothing to pry open.

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What do you mean, the car?

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Oh, wait a minute. Maybe there's something in here.

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I'll look, officer. Please don't touch the car.

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What?

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Don't touch the car, sir.

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Oh, sure. You want to look for fingerprints.

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I'll get my good story.

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There's something in there.

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All right, fine. How?

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Yeah.

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What? You got anything in your trunk?

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Yeah, I'll check.

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Fine.

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Ooh, ooh. All right, sir. We're police officers. We'll get you out.

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Same ones, huh, Joe?

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Yeah, looks like I'm pulling them all.

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I don't think so. You're not going to die, are you?

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Yeah.

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That's it, it's fine. It's stuck. You want to try it?

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Yeah, fine. Here.

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Yeah. Let me help you.

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Oh, that's right.

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All right.

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Hey, I think I got it in my hand.

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Here.

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There.

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I'll check it.

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I'll get it open.

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I'll give you a hand.

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All right.

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It's all right, sir.

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Get you out of there.

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I'll get some tape on you.

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Good to see everybody's fine.

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What's going on?

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I have to go too now.

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You want to tell us what happened to it?

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Sure.

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I can't break it.

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Better get an ambulance out.

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Right.

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Hey, let's get him under that awning over there out of the rain.

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Right.

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I need you more.

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What do you think you're doing?

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I don't know.

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Laying down.

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I'll take my coat.

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Cover him up.

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Yes, sir.

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Okay, I'm off, sir.

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It's all right.

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You already got it open?

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Yes, sir.

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We did.

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A little bitty screwdriver probably wouldn't have worked anyway.

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Oh, thank you anyway, sir.

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Good thing.

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Anything else I can do for you?

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No, sir.

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It's all right.

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Nothing you need?

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Nothing at all?

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Well, I don't know if you got a good memory for all of this.

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1101 DM.

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The ambulance arrived and took the victim to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital.

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Frank and I followed in our car.

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The creature was in the car.

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We were in the car.

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We were in the car.

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We were in the car.

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We were in the car.

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We were in the car.

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We were in the car.

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This was the tenth in a series of kidnappings in which the suspects had pulled cars to use

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in armed robberies.

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After beating the victims, they locked them in the trunk of the car, and after completion

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of the robberies, they'd abandoned the automobile with the victims tied to the egg in the trunk.

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Although today none of the victims had been killed, we knew it was only a matter of time

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until the suspects kidnapped somebody who was being capable of failing the treatment

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and was not only other robberies but a murder to deal with.

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The holdups had been going on for a period of six weeks.

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Frank and I followed up what leads and assured that they brought us nothing.

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None of the victims could describe the suspect, other than the telephone with mail, why Americans,

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and that one of them spoke with a certain draw.

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1117 DM.

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We arrived at the hospital.

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The victim had been placed in treatment room number three.

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Dr. George Hall was treating him.

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Frank and I went into the room to talk to the doctor.

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Hi, Joe.

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Frank.

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Hi, Danny.

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How is he?

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Oh, he's all right.

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Suffering from shock.

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I'll get him a setter, just quiet him down.

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He'll be okay in a few minutes.

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What happened today?

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He had a trouble bandage again.

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Is he going to be okay?

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Yeah, I'll be all right in 15 or 20 minutes.

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You know his name?

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I want to make other treatments for him.

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No, Pat, I'll let the poor boy get it.

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He's coming around now.

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You're all right now, Paula.

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Just relax, take it easy.

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Here, see if you can sit up here on the edge of the table.

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Joe?

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Yeah, Doc.

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You want to pour a glass of water, cup silver down the wall?

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Yeah, sure.

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I'll get you some water, sir.

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That's it.

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Easy.

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Thank you.

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Sure, go ahead.

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What do you hear the telephone happening?

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Yeah, about a quarter to eight, made that to my wife.

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Said we were out of coffee.

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We were having a late dinner, so while she was finishing fixing it, I went out to get

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something.

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I got down to Pico and Union, signal was working, stop.

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I pulled up.

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There were two guys standing on the safety zone.

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You know, they were all standing on the safety zone.

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They were all standing on the safety zone.

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They were all standing on the safety zone.

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You know, like they were waiting for a street car.

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I thought the time when a lousy thing happened, standing out in the rain waiting for a street

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car.

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Go ahead.

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Well, the next thing I knew, one of them opened the door up in front.

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When they opened the door, figured that maybe it was somebody that knew me.

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It was dark, you know.

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Couldn't see very well.

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The other one opened the back door and got right in the car.

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I knew very soon.

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I didn't know these guys.

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But, well, the fellow in front had a very good eye.

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He was a very good boy.

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He was a very good boy.

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He was a very good boy.

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He was a very good boy.

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He was a very good boy.

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He was a very good boy.

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He was a very good boy.

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He was a very good boy.

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He was a very good boy.

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He was a very good boy.

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He was a very good boy.

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Let's go back to the factory and get some money.

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Come on.

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Coming out of the factory.

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Yeah.

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Well, the fellow in front had a gun pointed right at me, looked like a can, the biggest

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gun I ever saw.

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Told me I was scared.

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He told me to pull up the curtain.

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Now I did.

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So I had him then.

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He told me to get in the back seat.

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I told them I can take my money, car, whatever they wanted.

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Just let me go.

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The guy in the back told me to shut up and get back there with him.

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I asked him if I could let go.

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Told him I wouldn't say anything.

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They said that they'd just let me go. I wouldn't tell anyone. I was scared, you know.

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Yeah, I totally understand. Guy in the front got a real wild look in his eye.

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Looked like he was crazy. I tried to get out of the car and he hit me.

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Right in the head with that gun. Then they grabbed me, threw me in the back seat,

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held me right over the front, just got me on the floor in the back.

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Uh-huh. What'd you do then?

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Oh, nothing. I just played.

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Figured that maybe they'd take out without calling me along.

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What happened?

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Well, the guy in the back took a roll of adhesive tape out of his pocket,

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wrapped around my wrist and ankles.

260
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What'd they do then?

261
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Well, they still thought I was knocked out.

262
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The guy in the front said, get me out of the car.

263
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They fell open. The door lifted me out, picked me up like a sack of potatoes.

264
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Guy went around, ran around, opened the trunk, and they threw me in.

265
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One of my legs was over the bumper and the big guy grabbed it and twisted it so it had fed in the trunk.

266
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I almost died, but I didn't tell them I wasn't out.

267
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And after that, they locked the car and drove away.

268
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They drove for a while and they stopped.

269
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You got any idea how long they drove, sir? How far?

270
00:09:20,380 --> 00:09:23,380
No. I couldn't see anything. Couldn't hear much.

271
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Just a little mumbling.

272
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I know they stopped the gas station, though.

273
00:09:27,380 --> 00:09:29,380
Well, how'd that happen?

274
00:09:29,380 --> 00:09:32,380
Well, right after we stopped, I heard one of them yell at somebody.

275
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I couldn't tell what he was yelling, but it's been a little while.

276
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I heard somebody come back, take the gas cap off of the tank.

277
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And I heard the gas go in the tank right in front of the trunk.

278
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Well, that's the guy that put the cap back on the tank.

279
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I heard one of the guys say something about stick up.

280
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Why would we stop? Did you try to let the gas table set it low if you were in the trunk?

281
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Oh, shoot.

282
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And I tried to kick the trunk, but the way they twisted my leg, put me in, I couldn't move.

283
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They gagged me, too. Put a big piece of adhesive tape over my mouth.

284
00:10:02,380 --> 00:10:06,380
Well, sir, I tried to let the guy know. I just couldn't do it.

285
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You said if you heard one of them say, this is a stick up.

286
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Yeah. Those were the words they used, too. This is a stick up.

287
00:10:12,380 --> 00:10:14,380
Uh-huh. Well, if you go ahead, sir.

288
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Well, there was some quiet talking after that.

289
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I couldn't tell what was going on, and they drove away again.

290
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You had no idea where the gas station was.

291
00:10:22,380 --> 00:10:27,380
No. I'm sorry, but I was being bounced around the trunk.

292
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My head hurt when they hit me.

293
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I know they turned some corners, but I couldn't even guess where the station might be.

294
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All right. Guess what happened then?

295
00:10:36,380 --> 00:10:40,380
Same thing. They'd drive for a while, and then they'd stop.

296
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They'd get out of the car, then come back. We'd start to drive again.

297
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Well, finally they parked. I waited for them to come back.

298
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They didn't. I tried to get the gag off my mouth, so I could yell for help.

299
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I rubbed my face against the spare tire and got loose.

300
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Then I yelled, kicked my feet against the trunk.

301
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I just about gave up when you found me.

302
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I'm sure I was through.

303
00:11:03,380 --> 00:11:05,380
It's getting hard to breathe in there.

304
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I can imagine.

305
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No, you can't. Until you've been locked in the trunk.

306
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Nobody can imagine that.

307
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Terrible. Just terrible.

308
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Say, have you called me? That's my wife. Have you called her?

309
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No, sir, we haven't.

310
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Oh, she'll be a hot, hot man. What time is it?

311
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It's 1145.

312
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Four hours to get a pound of coffee. She'll be raising her roof.

313
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Would you call her? Tell her where I am?

314
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Yes, sir, I'll call her.

315
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Want to give me the number?

316
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Madison 3-4656.

317
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Tell her you're calling for Henry. Explain what happened.

318
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All right, I'll be right away.

319
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Auditor, be sure to tell her you're a policeman. She'll believe you.

320
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Yes, sir.

321
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I have a couple questions, sir. I have to solve this card.

322
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I hate to ask. Could I have another couple of ones?

323
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I'll get it.

324
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What do you want to know?

325
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Your full name?

326
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Henry J. Hilde.

327
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H-I-L-L-D-A-L-E?

328
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Uh-huh.

329
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All right, see you in a while.

330
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Thank you.

331
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I don't know why I'm so thirsty.

332
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I got in the trunk, I guess. Got in the trunk.

333
00:12:16,380 --> 00:12:19,380
Yes. What's your address, Mr. Hilde?

334
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920 North Lebanon Avenue.

335
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Phone number is Madison 3-4656.

336
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4-6-5-6.

337
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How old?

338
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48.

339
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It's 49, it's October.

340
00:12:30,380 --> 00:12:34,380
All right, Mr. Hilde. You have a way to get home. We'll run him home, Doc.

341
00:12:34,380 --> 00:12:36,380
What about my car? Can't I take it?

342
00:12:36,380 --> 00:12:41,380
Well, we're going to have to pocket the fingerprints so we can release it to you in the morning.

343
00:12:41,380 --> 00:12:42,380
You called me?

344
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Yes, sir. I just talked to her.

345
00:12:44,380 --> 00:12:45,380
Where's she store?

346
00:12:45,380 --> 00:12:47,380
Well, she was a little upset, worried about you.

347
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But she told her about what happened.

348
00:12:50,380 --> 00:12:52,380
Yes, sir. Everything's all right now.

349
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That's good.

350
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Mr. Hilde, you can leave now. I suggest you see your own doctor in the morning just to check up.

351
00:12:58,380 --> 00:13:03,380
Oh, all right. Well, thanks a lot for your trouble. Sure appreciate it.

352
00:13:03,380 --> 00:13:07,380
That's okay.

353
00:13:07,380 --> 00:13:09,380
You know, just this way, all the way down here.

354
00:13:09,380 --> 00:13:13,380
Oh, yes.

355
00:13:13,380 --> 00:13:16,380
I'll get the baton for her.

356
00:13:16,380 --> 00:13:18,380
Thanks, sorry, Joe.

357
00:13:18,380 --> 00:13:20,380
One big trouble.

358
00:13:20,380 --> 00:13:21,380
What's that?

359
00:13:21,380 --> 00:13:25,380
We're hearing it too often.

360
00:13:25,380 --> 00:13:31,380
12.18 p.m. We left Jersey City City Hospital and drove Mr. Hildale back to his home.

361
00:13:31,380 --> 00:13:35,380
On the way we asked him for a description, but he was only able to give us the very major one.

362
00:13:35,380 --> 00:13:38,380
We did hear enough information from him for our crime report.

363
00:13:38,380 --> 00:13:42,380
He told us he'd come in the next day to look through the mug books.

364
00:13:42,380 --> 00:13:46,380
We checked into the city hall, got a D.I. number, and filled out the crime report.

365
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We booked the adhesive tape as evidence.

366
00:13:48,380 --> 00:13:52,380
The information on the robbery suspected school that night had come into the office.

367
00:13:52,380 --> 00:13:58,380
There had been three of them, and among them was a service station Mr. Hildale had told us about.

368
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At 1.46 a.m., Frank and I signed out of the office and went home to get some sleep.

369
00:14:02,380 --> 00:14:05,380
7.58 a.m. We talked with Captain Didion.

370
00:14:05,380 --> 00:14:08,380
Here's the description we got from the service station, Lieutenant.

371
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Yes, sir.

372
00:14:10,380 --> 00:14:12,380
Hey, guys.

373
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Want to hand me that milk?

374
00:14:14,380 --> 00:14:16,380
Yeah, there you are.

375
00:14:16,380 --> 00:14:19,380
Stomachs clear, didn't you, King?

376
00:14:24,380 --> 00:14:27,380
This is a potential kidnapping, the 23rd robbery.

377
00:14:27,380 --> 00:14:29,380
One of you two is going to get off the dime and bring those guys in.

378
00:14:29,380 --> 00:14:31,380
Oh, do it again, Skipper, you know that.

379
00:14:31,380 --> 00:14:34,380
And it's not enough. I know you guys have been beating your heads against the wall on this thing,

380
00:14:34,380 --> 00:14:36,380
but the corner pocket's on my back and we've got to break it.

381
00:14:36,380 --> 00:14:38,380
We've contacted all our informants.

382
00:14:38,380 --> 00:14:41,380
We've run out of every lead that's turned up. They all go to the same place.

383
00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:43,380
I'm going to achieve every excuse I can.

384
00:14:43,380 --> 00:14:47,380
I'm not going to try to sell them anymore. I don't think you'd buy them.

385
00:14:47,380 --> 00:14:52,380
You know what? The guys who are pulling these jobs, they're flesh and blood. They eat and sleep.

386
00:14:52,380 --> 00:14:57,380
Somebody in town knows them. They're not fainted, but it's fine.

387
00:14:57,380 --> 00:14:59,380
These guys aren't the brainiest ones in the world.

388
00:14:59,380 --> 00:15:02,380
If they were, they wouldn't be getting the cars the way they do.

389
00:15:02,380 --> 00:15:04,380
Oh, yeah, that's figured.

390
00:15:04,380 --> 00:15:06,380
How about the cars, my name's Hing?

391
00:15:06,380 --> 00:15:10,380
They said the car was dried up to work on it. I couldn't tell if they were old, so they thought that.

392
00:15:10,380 --> 00:15:13,380
I've been going over their crime reports. I've nearly got an idea.

393
00:15:13,380 --> 00:15:14,380
What?

394
00:15:14,380 --> 00:15:18,380
The way it looks, they picked up the cars in one area, pulled the jobs in the same area.

395
00:15:18,380 --> 00:15:20,380
It could be that they live in that area.

396
00:15:20,380 --> 00:15:24,380
They've been working inside a 30 square block, straight down a hill, 7th to Peacock.

397
00:15:24,380 --> 00:15:30,380
I've got a description on them. Talk to the desk clerks at every hotel and boarding house in the area.

398
00:15:30,380 --> 00:15:32,380
Where are they, did you?

399
00:15:32,380 --> 00:15:33,380
Yeah, he's here.

400
00:15:33,380 --> 00:15:36,380
See you, Jim.

401
00:15:36,380 --> 00:15:37,380
This side.

402
00:15:37,380 --> 00:15:39,380
What do you have here?

403
00:15:39,380 --> 00:15:41,380
Hmm?

404
00:15:41,380 --> 00:15:44,380
You bet. That's the way it goes sometimes.

405
00:15:44,380 --> 00:15:46,380
Yeah, well, thanks a lot.

406
00:15:46,380 --> 00:15:47,380
Bergman?

407
00:15:47,380 --> 00:15:50,380
Yeah, he just finished the car. It's cool, not a thing on it.

408
00:15:50,380 --> 00:16:02,380
930 AM. Mr. Hildale got to the city hall and I took him into the mud room to look at the books.

409
00:16:02,380 --> 00:16:05,380
Fogged out in Texas suits and the police spinning around.

410
00:16:05,380 --> 00:16:10,380
We gave him the description of the suspect's NLMO and the fact that one of them spoke to the seven accents.

411
00:16:10,380 --> 00:16:17,380
We asked him to write off 500 flyers for distribution in the area that we were going to canvas. 1215 PM.

412
00:16:17,380 --> 00:16:20,380
Sorry, Sergeant, didn't recognize any of them.

413
00:16:20,380 --> 00:16:21,380
Oh, that's all right. I understand.

414
00:16:21,380 --> 00:16:27,380
I don't think his picture was there. I'd feel awful if I saw it and didn't recognize it, but I'm pretty sure you just don't have a picture of the man.

415
00:16:27,380 --> 00:16:30,380
Well, maybe you'd like to rest a little bit before you look at any more.

416
00:16:30,380 --> 00:16:35,380
Yes, I can. I get a little confused looking at so many. After a while they all begin to look alike.

417
00:16:35,380 --> 00:16:36,380
Joe, yeah?

418
00:16:36,380 --> 00:16:37,380
See you later.

419
00:16:37,380 --> 00:16:39,380
Sure, sir. Excuse me, Mr. Hildale.

420
00:16:39,380 --> 00:16:40,380
Of course.

421
00:16:40,380 --> 00:16:43,380
Joe, what?

422
00:16:43,380 --> 00:16:44,380
Yeah?

423
00:16:44,380 --> 00:16:45,380
It's got a call from Sally Sutton.

424
00:16:45,380 --> 00:16:46,380
San Francisco?

425
00:16:46,380 --> 00:16:47,380
Yeah.

426
00:16:47,380 --> 00:16:48,380
I think they got our boy.

427
00:16:48,380 --> 00:17:03,380
You are listening to Dragnet, the authentic story of your police force in action.

428
00:17:03,380 --> 00:17:19,380
Folks would tell me that in talking to Inspector Sutton of the San Francisco Police Department he found out that they had one of the suspects.

429
00:17:19,380 --> 00:17:22,380
Sutton said he was apprehended after he kidnapped the one who stopped for a boulevard stop.

430
00:17:22,380 --> 00:17:25,380
The suspect would tape the man up and throw him in the trunk of the automobile.

431
00:17:25,380 --> 00:17:32,380
Sutton would argue that a witness along the street had called the police and tells them a description of the car and the license number.

432
00:17:32,380 --> 00:17:40,380
The kidnapper was apprehended immediately. He refused to talk and further investigation disclosed that the suspect was a PZ from Los Angeles.

433
00:17:40,380 --> 00:17:46,380
Inspector Sutton told us that he sent a stand-up mug to the suspect by email special delivery.

434
00:17:46,380 --> 00:17:51,380
The following morning when he received the mug, he showed them to the victims of the robberies in the Los Angeles area.

435
00:17:51,380 --> 00:18:00,380
Several of them positively identified the man. Others stated that he resembled the suspect and some of the victims were unable to give any identification of the suspect at all.

436
00:18:00,380 --> 00:18:08,380
In view of the circumstances, Falcon, I were ordered to take two of the most reliable witnesses up to San Francisco in order to observe the suspect in person.

437
00:18:08,380 --> 00:18:14,380
We found the out of town book, checked out a trip car, picked up our witnesses and left for the Bay Area.

438
00:18:14,380 --> 00:18:21,380
Seven fifteen p.m. we checked into the San Francisco Police Station on Training Street. A special show up with the remains of a victim from Los Angeles.

439
00:18:21,380 --> 00:18:27,380
They failed to give a positive identification of the suspect but both of them said that he could be one of the men involved in the robbery.

440
00:18:27,380 --> 00:18:32,380
Eight twenty p.m. we talked to the suspect, a Jack Webster, in Inspector Sutton's office.

441
00:18:32,380 --> 00:18:34,380
What are you guys trying to prove?

442
00:18:34,380 --> 00:18:36,380
We're not trying to prove anything. Let's do what we want to fast.

443
00:18:36,380 --> 00:18:38,380
Well that's what I'm giving you. Seems like when you get them you don't want to lose them.

444
00:18:38,380 --> 00:18:40,380
Look, we got two people outside that came all the way up here from L.A.

445
00:18:40,380 --> 00:18:43,380
Both of them say you're the guy who stole their cars and beat them up.

446
00:18:43,380 --> 00:18:44,380
Well they're both crazy.

447
00:18:44,380 --> 00:18:47,380
According to the reports, you pulled a kidnapping just like the ones we pulled out south. How about that?

448
00:18:47,380 --> 00:18:49,380
So it looks the same. That mean I did it?

449
00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:50,380
Looks like it.

450
00:18:50,380 --> 00:18:53,380
We ran your names to R&I down in Los Angeles. There's a cab on your car for PZs. You know that?

451
00:18:53,380 --> 00:18:54,380
What?

452
00:18:54,380 --> 00:18:56,380
Galloway in Los Angeles wants you for parole violation.

453
00:18:56,380 --> 00:18:58,380
Oh, well I think I can explain that.

454
00:18:58,380 --> 00:19:01,380
I don't think he can. Webster Galloway says he hasn't heard from you for the past six weeks.

455
00:19:01,380 --> 00:19:04,380
That's how long these robberies have been going on. You look awful good for him.

456
00:19:04,380 --> 00:19:08,380
So I maybe skipped town. I was going to report up here. I got a job. Now I'm trying to go straight.

457
00:19:08,380 --> 00:19:10,380
How about the job they got you for now?

458
00:19:10,380 --> 00:19:12,380
I needed a little extra dough. You know, some came up.

459
00:19:12,380 --> 00:19:14,380
I read about those jobs in L.A. I figured it might work for me.

460
00:19:14,380 --> 00:19:16,380
I thought maybe you'd figure it was the same guy.

461
00:19:16,380 --> 00:19:17,380
Yeah, we do.

462
00:19:17,380 --> 00:19:18,380
Now you got it all wrong.

463
00:19:18,380 --> 00:19:21,380
Sure you got me nailed for this one, but that's all. I had nothing to do with him in L.A.

464
00:19:21,380 --> 00:19:22,380
I witnessed a few other things.

465
00:19:22,380 --> 00:19:26,380
I tell you, witnesses, they're full of cheese. I didn't have anything to do with him.

466
00:19:26,380 --> 00:19:28,380
Now I'm sorry, but you got me tagged for a job up here. Nothing else.

467
00:19:28,380 --> 00:19:29,380
How'd you figure that?

468
00:19:29,380 --> 00:19:32,380
Well, how long you say those jokes has been working in L.A. about six weeks?

469
00:19:32,380 --> 00:19:34,380
When you got nothing on me.

470
00:19:34,380 --> 00:19:37,380
Sure, I have less time for a month and a half and I can prove it.

471
00:19:37,380 --> 00:19:45,380
Jack Webster told us that he's been registered at a hotel on Gary Street for the past month and a half.

472
00:19:45,380 --> 00:19:50,380
Further, he said that he's been working in a foundry in South Wofford, just go through the same period of time.

473
00:19:50,380 --> 00:19:53,380
We checked both of the places out and found that he was telling the truth.

474
00:19:53,380 --> 00:19:58,380
He was filed on in San Francisco for grand theft auto and kidnapping.

475
00:19:58,380 --> 00:20:04,380
Sunday, February 22nd, we arrived back in Los Angeles, took our witnesses to their homes and checked into the office.

476
00:20:04,380 --> 00:20:08,380
We called Captain Gideon and found that there had been no new developments in the case.

477
00:20:08,380 --> 00:20:14,380
Frank and I went home to get some sweets. Monday morning, 7.45 a.m., we signed into the office.

478
00:20:14,380 --> 00:20:18,380
We picked up supplies and started to camp at the area where we thought the holdup men were living.

479
00:20:18,380 --> 00:20:22,380
During the first day, we were able to check out 28 places.

480
00:20:22,380 --> 00:20:25,380
Tuesday, the 24th, it started to rain again.

481
00:20:25,380 --> 00:20:31,380
At 8.30 a.m., we started to camp at the rest of the hotel's rooming houses and boarding houses in the area.

482
00:20:31,380 --> 00:20:34,380
For three days, we talked of the day and the night curtain each place.

483
00:20:34,380 --> 00:20:38,380
We left each of them a flyer with the description of the men and our time,

484
00:20:38,380 --> 00:20:43,380
asking them to call if anyone else in the description should register at their particular place.

485
00:20:43,380 --> 00:20:48,380
For three days, it started on Saturday, February 28th.

486
00:20:48,380 --> 00:20:51,380
You think the love has stopped, Joe?

487
00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:53,380
Yes, it is left.

488
00:20:53,380 --> 00:20:54,380
Yeah.

489
00:20:54,380 --> 00:20:59,380
It's like the guys we want to drop off the face of the earth, nobody's seen or heard of them.

490
00:20:59,380 --> 00:21:01,380
I never realized there were so many hotels in LA.

491
00:21:01,380 --> 00:21:04,380
Well, there's a lot of them.

492
00:21:04,380 --> 00:21:05,380
Well, let's try this one.

493
00:21:05,380 --> 00:21:07,380
All right.

494
00:21:10,380 --> 00:21:12,380
Here's something to walk.

495
00:21:12,380 --> 00:21:14,380
We're going to call the police officers, sir, with our ID.

496
00:21:14,380 --> 00:21:15,380
What, sir?

497
00:21:15,380 --> 00:21:16,380
Police officers.

498
00:21:16,380 --> 00:21:17,380
Oh, oh, police.

499
00:21:17,380 --> 00:21:18,380
That's right, sir.

500
00:21:18,380 --> 00:21:20,380
Yeah. Well, what do you want?

501
00:21:20,380 --> 00:21:24,380
We'd like to know if you got anyone here who answers these descriptions.

502
00:21:24,380 --> 00:21:25,380
Like this, huh?

503
00:21:25,380 --> 00:21:26,380
Yes, sir.

504
00:21:26,380 --> 00:21:30,380
Well, it's kind of hard to say. If you had a picture of them, it might help.

505
00:21:30,380 --> 00:21:33,380
I'm sorry, sir, we don't have a picture, just that description.

506
00:21:33,380 --> 00:21:38,380
It could be the fellows with four A's and still think we'll be searching, huh?

507
00:21:38,380 --> 00:21:41,380
Yeah, I bet it's them. I knew we should have called you fellows about.

508
00:21:41,380 --> 00:21:42,380
Sir?

509
00:21:42,380 --> 00:21:48,380
See, the day before yesterday, Amy, she's the girl, you know, teams up with taking care of the rooms.

510
00:21:48,380 --> 00:21:51,380
She said that she opened the closet, she saw a gun laying on the shelf.

511
00:21:51,380 --> 00:21:53,380
You know what? They're right out in the open.

512
00:21:53,380 --> 00:21:54,380
Did you report that to the police?

513
00:21:54,380 --> 00:21:55,380
Huh? What'd you say?

514
00:21:55,380 --> 00:21:56,380
Did you report it to the police?

515
00:21:56,380 --> 00:21:59,380
Oh, no. No, no, I didn't.

516
00:21:59,380 --> 00:22:05,380
You see, I figured that, you know, living, not living, didn't cause any trouble about the cause.

517
00:22:05,380 --> 00:22:10,380
And Amy talked about whether we should let you know, but then we decided against it.

518
00:22:10,380 --> 00:22:12,380
I said, I don't see no issues.

519
00:22:12,380 --> 00:22:14,380
Why didn't you tell us when you saw them last, sir?

520
00:22:14,380 --> 00:22:16,380
Oh, well, a couple of hours ago.

521
00:22:16,380 --> 00:22:17,380
They registered here?

522
00:22:17,380 --> 00:22:23,380
Yeah, and they started that with us. They're up in room four A. Ain't there now, though?

523
00:22:23,380 --> 00:22:29,380
Well, I'll be darned if he ain't there. Well, I guess not, I'm sad.

524
00:22:29,380 --> 00:22:32,380
Huh, I must have given them the key and didn't remember.

525
00:22:32,380 --> 00:22:34,380
That's room four A, she said.

526
00:22:34,380 --> 00:22:35,380
What'd you say?

527
00:22:35,380 --> 00:22:36,380
I said that's room four A.

528
00:22:36,380 --> 00:22:40,380
Four A? Yeah, that's right, four A, four four. They're up there now.

529
00:22:40,380 --> 00:22:42,380
Thank you, sir.

530
00:22:42,380 --> 00:22:47,380
Hey, uh, what do you want it for? The dangerous criminals?

531
00:22:47,380 --> 00:22:48,380
Well, we don't know, sir.

532
00:22:48,380 --> 00:22:51,380
Well, be careful, you know, we wouldn't want anything to happen.

533
00:22:51,380 --> 00:22:54,380
Yes, sir.

534
00:22:54,380 --> 00:22:58,380
Here, I'll get the button.

535
00:22:58,380 --> 00:23:00,380
What'd he say to you, Joe?

536
00:23:00,380 --> 00:23:01,380
I don't know.

537
00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:06,380
We'll go through our boys.

538
00:23:06,380 --> 00:23:14,380
Yeah, listen to me.

539
00:23:14,380 --> 00:23:18,380
Down this way.

540
00:23:18,380 --> 00:23:24,380
Room two, room four, room six. Here it is.

541
00:23:24,380 --> 00:23:25,380
You want to cover me?

542
00:23:25,380 --> 00:23:29,380
Yeah.

543
00:23:29,380 --> 00:23:31,380
Where is it? Room first.

544
00:23:31,380 --> 00:23:32,380
Why, what?

545
00:23:32,380 --> 00:23:33,380
Mike's after you.

546
00:23:33,380 --> 00:23:37,380
Ah, I guess I'm in.

547
00:23:37,380 --> 00:23:38,380
I told you, anyway, you ain't going to move.

548
00:23:38,380 --> 00:23:43,380
Watch out, watch out!

549
00:23:43,380 --> 00:23:45,380
All right, sir, on your feet.

550
00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:46,380
Come on.

551
00:23:46,380 --> 00:23:47,380
How about the other one?

552
00:23:47,380 --> 00:23:48,380
He's out.

553
00:23:48,380 --> 00:23:50,380
Here, I'll take him down for you.

554
00:23:50,380 --> 00:23:53,380
Stupid, you point stupid. I told him, told him a hundred times.

555
00:23:53,380 --> 00:23:55,380
Stand still. You told him what?

556
00:23:55,380 --> 00:23:58,380
That we should have left. Get out of this lousy town, going back home.

557
00:23:58,380 --> 00:23:59,380
Yeah, all right, let's go.

558
00:23:59,380 --> 00:24:02,380
Back in a can this time, we'll never get out of him and his big ideas.

559
00:24:02,380 --> 00:24:04,380
Smart guy, old ad to big brains.

560
00:24:04,380 --> 00:24:05,380
It's right, Joe.

561
00:24:05,380 --> 00:24:07,380
Yeah, well, maybe you'll make it this time.

562
00:24:07,380 --> 00:24:16,380
You'll have a lot of time to convince him.

563
00:24:16,380 --> 00:24:18,380
The story you have just heard was true.

564
00:24:18,380 --> 00:24:21,380
The names were changed to protect the innocent.

565
00:24:21,380 --> 00:24:24,380
On the 17th, trial was held in Superior Court, Department 87,

566
00:24:24,380 --> 00:24:27,380
City and County of Los Angeles, State of California.

567
00:24:27,380 --> 00:24:29,380
In a moment, the results of that trial.

568
00:24:29,380 --> 00:24:43,380
Andrew J. Scott and Edward F. Winters were tried and convicted on 12 counts of robbery in the first degree

569
00:24:43,380 --> 00:24:46,380
and 10 counts of kidnapping for the purposes of robbery.

570
00:24:46,380 --> 00:24:49,380
They are now serving their terms in the state penitentiary.

571
00:24:49,380 --> 00:24:53,380
A hold has been placed on them in the event of parole by the State of Arkansas.

572
00:24:53,380 --> 00:25:00,380
First degree robbery is punishable by imprisonment in the state penitentiary for from five years to life for each count.

573
00:25:00,380 --> 00:25:23,380
In the case of Scott and Winters, these sentences are to run consecutively.

