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Ladies and gentlemen, due to technical difficulties beyond our control at the moment, the dragnet

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It will be heard in just a few moments.

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There's a boss, Steve.

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My name's Friday.

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We're on the way out from the office.

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738 A.M. when we got to Paris Avenue.

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Number 213.

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Yes?

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How do you do, Miss Wagner?

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Police officers.

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I'm Sergeant Jacobs.

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This is my partner, Sergeant Friday.

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Oh, yes, Sergeant.

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I've been expecting you.

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Would you come in, please?

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Hope you'll excuse the way the house looks, officers, right in the middle of packing,

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getting ready to move.

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I understand.

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I'll try not to keep you, Miss Wagner.

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So much to do.

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Making arrangements for Dorothy's funeral, the undertaker.

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And all this moving business on top of it.

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I couldn't bear to stay here any longer, though.

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Yes, ma'am, we understand.

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We'll make it as brief as we can.

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I'd like to have you tell us about this trouble that your sister had, as much as you know

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about it, I mean.

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Plain out-and-out murder, in my opinion.

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Might just as well have taken a gun and killed her, no difference.

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You knew all about the relationship between your sister Dorothy and this man Reynolds,

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is that correct?

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Yes, right from the beginning.

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I was there when they met.

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Would you mind if I went ahead packing these few things here?

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My sister's things, I'd like to finish up before I leave.

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Have an appointment at noon, the mortuary.

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Surely go right ahead.

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A few books, knick-knacks, personal things to Dorothy.

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Foolish woman, I gave her credit for more sense.

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Now, about this man Reynolds, Miss Wagner.

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I saw through him right from the start.

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I tried to tell Dorothy.

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He was a fortune hunter, money-hungry.

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Of course, she wouldn't listen.

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She always knew better.

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Charles R. Reynolds, is that the name you knew him by, ma'am?

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Yes, that's right.

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Dorothy and I met him one Sunday night in the hotel dining room.

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Two of us always had dinner at the hotel Sunday nights, every Sunday.

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That's the hotel Alan Wiltshire you told us about?

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That's correct.

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It'll be exactly a month this coming Sunday.

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Came up to our table and introduced himself.

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Claimed he knew my father when he was alive.

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Dad owned some big packing plants in the East.

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Died nine years ago, left the estate to Dorothy and me.

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I see.

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Would you have anything to add to the description that you gave us on Reynolds, Miss Wagner?

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I mean, can you think of anything unusual about him at all?

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Scars, peculiar mannerisms, anything like that?

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No, nothing special.

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Dressed well, as I say, apparently cultured, well-traveled.

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Mm-hmm.

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He was handsome enough, attractive.

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I knew he was only after our money, though, playing up to Dorothy that way, kissing her

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hand, taking her out all the time.

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Probably would have tried the same thing with me.

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It's lucky I knew better.

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How did you after the first meeting with him, Miss Wagner?

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Did you start dating your sister Dorothy right away?

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Yes, the next night.

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Called here at our home and asked Dorothy to the theater.

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I think he was going to ask me, but he was too smart for that.

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I knew him for what he was.

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Huh.

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Imagine that.

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A poem Miss Dorothy wrote in high school.

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Love poems.

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Silly.

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She never did get it out of her head.

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You and your sister lived alone here in the house, did you, ma'am?

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Yes, Dorothy and I and the maid.

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I don't want to stay here after what's happened, though.

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I'm going to my cousin's in Vermont.

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Never want to see this place again.

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Yes, ma'am, I can understand.

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How soon after you met Reynolds did he marry your sister?

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Little over two weeks.

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He'd been seeing her almost every night, taking her out dancing to the theaters, big dinners,

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bringing her home late.

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He'd sit here in the living room.

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I could hear them from my bedroom upstairs laughing, him telling her how beautiful she

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was.

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Forty-two year old woman, imagine that.

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You're about the same age your sister was?

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Just about.

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A little older.

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Reynolds always took us for twins, though.

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Here's a snapshot of me taking in my twenties.

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The boy with me there, he wanted to marry me.

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My money, of course, that's all he wanted.

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Too bad.

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Dorothy never seemed to realize that about men.

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Girls from wealthy families have to be careful.

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I understand Reynolds took your sister out of town to be married, is that right?

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Yes, Las Vegas.

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Reynolds had told her his bank funds were tied up temporarily in a Canadian bank.

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He wrote Dorothy a check for ten thousand dollars and she gave him her check for the

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same amount.

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He said he wanted to book reservations for a round the world trip for both of them.

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I see.

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The same day Dorothy gave him the check, he cashed it.

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The bank called her about it and she said it was perfectly all right.

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Now, after he cashed it, Reynolds disappeared.

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No trace of him.

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Of course, his check's worthless.

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We found that out.

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And you figured that's the only reason your sister took her own life?

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There's no other reason.

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It wasn't the money so much.

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Dorothy has her share of the estate.

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It's a shame, I suppose, awful shame, disappointment.

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She should have known better, a woman her age.

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Had your sister ever been married before, Miss Wagner?

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Yes, when she was eighteen.

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Ran off to Chicago and married a young fellow.

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She claimed she loved him, too.

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Naturally, he was after our money.

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My father and I went and brought her home.

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We had the marriage annulled.

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It was that way all her life.

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Half a dozen men.

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They brought Dorothy nothing but misery.

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This was the last, this Charles Reynolds.

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How about his background, ma'am?

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His business connections.

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He ever mention any of that to you or your sister?

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Claimed he had interests all over South America, Australia.

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Seemed to have plenty of money.

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Guess his kind always has.

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Do you think you'll find him?

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We're going to try, Miss Wagner.

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Dorothy went upstairs to her bedroom and stayed there.

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She looks a-strange.

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She took out some press flowers from a book.

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Some boy had given them to her once, years ago.

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Don't know who.

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She just sat on the edge of her bed and stared at them.

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Old press flowers.

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Next morning, the maid came upstairs and Dorothy was lying on the floor.

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Empty bottle of pills next to her.

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Awful disgrace.

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Never happened before in our family.

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If you don't mind, Miss Wagner, we like to get as many particulars about this man

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Reynolds as you can remember.

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There.

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That's the last.

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I don't know what else to tell you, Officer.

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All I know is I was young when Dorothy was young.

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I could have had a man if I wanted.

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But I didn't run off when I was 18 to marry a boy.

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I knew my duty.

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It wasn't proper.

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It wasn't love.

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I didn't run off as a middle-aged woman to marry a fortune hunter either.

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What made her do it?

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I wouldn't know, ma'am.

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She was your sister.

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What kind of a man was he?

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What kind of a mind?

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Making love, kissing her, just to take her money.

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Imagine.

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Selling somebody with a kiss.

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Well, it's not the first time, ma'am.

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Is that so?

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Look it up.

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You'll find it in the Bible.

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1118 a.m.

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We continued to interview the victim's sister for another 40 minutes and then we left the

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Wagner home, drove back to the office and continued our investigation of the suspect,

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Charles R. Reynolds.

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As far as we were concerned, the criminal was new to us, but the crime wasn't.

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The marriage rackets as old as any con game on earth.

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And as con games go, it's one of the lowest.

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It trades on one of the most natural and normal instincts a man or a woman has, a desire for

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companionship, a home, and a family.

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And for the sake of an easy dollar, it betrays the victim and the instinct ruthlessly, regardless

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of the consequences.

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In the case of 42 year old heiress Dorothy Wagner, the disappointment was too much to

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cope with.

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For her, the marriage game ended in the front parlor of a mortuary on South Hoover Street.

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For the suspect, Charles Reynolds, it had continued to be a paying business until he

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was stopped.

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After homicide detail completed their investigation of the case and it was definitely determined

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that Dorothy Wagner took her own life, the matter was turned over to us.

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1150 a.m.

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We got off a request to Las Vegas asking them for all the information on the marriage.

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And then I contacted the stats office and asked them to make a run on the suspect for

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us based on his detailed description and also on his method of operation.

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I went back down the hall and met Ed Jacobs at the R&I counter.

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How you doing?

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Not too much luck, Joe.

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Forger didn't come up with anything either, nothing on the nerf files.

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It's not much of a start, is it?

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Apparently this is the first time he's worked at town.

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Orangeley couldn't find anything on the name, not in the main file anyway.

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What do you got there?

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I asked John to check the correspondence file.

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He came up with this.

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Out of Chicago, huh?

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Yeah, he came in over three months ago, inquiry from their bunko detail.

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Suspect name right here, Frank L. Richland.

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Same angle, marriage racket.

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The MO is pretty close.

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Any description?

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Oh, here.

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What do you think?

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170 pounds, gray wavy hair, blue eyes, fair complexion.

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That's fairly close, could be.

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There's the alias list Richland uses as long as your arm.

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Here's one called R.I. Reynolds.

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Alias George A. Reynolds, Thomas R. Reynolds, alias C.H. Reynolds, alias Charles R. Reynolds.

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Wants on him for forgery, bunko, grand theft, a lot of experience.

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How about a mugshot on his foot?

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None attached.

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No LA contacts either.

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Then we better get off a wire to Chicago PD, have them send us what they can on him.

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Want to prove it one way or the other by the end of the week maybe, huh?

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Yeah, copy his name down here.

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Frank L. Richland, correspondence number C143732, Chicago case number D-612-32.

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Attention Lieutenant Smirkels.

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I'm just thinking, Ed.

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The last time anyone saw Reynolds, when was it?

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Ten, twelve days ago?

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Ten days ago, yeah.

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September 23rd, same day cashed the check and took a run out.

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Well if he's working the city for the first time he must figure he's had some fair luck.

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Ten thousand on the first try is pretty encouraging.

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Yeah?

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If he gets the idea that town's a gold mine he's not going to pull out stakes here.

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Hmm, figures.

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Probably trying to reach a couple other women with the same angle, could be he's working

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on it now.

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Well that's the problem.

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What do you mean?

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Say he's been romancing three or four of them around town, he's got them all primed.

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Huh?

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How are you going to warn a woman about a thief before a purse is gone?

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After getting off a wire to Chicago regarding the suspect, which was in addition to the

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broadcast and the APB we'd gotten out on him, Ed Jacobs and I continued checking out the

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various contacts that he'd made in the city.

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We checked stores where he shopped, banks where he allegedly did business, restaurants

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and hotels which he reportedly patronized.

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It took three days of dull steady legwork.

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You can say it much faster than you can do it.

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All of the bank references without exception were falsified.

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Where he made purchases it was strictly cash dealing.

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The same for the restaurants he'd frequented.

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Besides meager descriptions of the man, the restaurant employees weren't able to help

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us much.

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At one of the two hotels where we learned he was a guest for a full month, we finally

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met at half a lead.

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One of the bell boys told us that the man known as Charles Reynolds seemed to be pretty

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friendly with the head waiter in the hotel dining room, the Henry Kingsbury.

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We located Kingsbury in the dining room in mid afternoon directing arrangements for a

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large private party to be held that night.

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Across the dance floor the orchestra was on the bandstand rehearsing.

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The musicians in their shirt sleeves.

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Kingsbury was reserved, not too cooperative.

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I was acquainted with Mr. Reynolds, no more than the other guests though.

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That's not the way we get it Mr. Kingsbury.

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We hear you were pretty friendly with him.

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Only as far as my job goes that's my business making people feel at home, making them comfortable.

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We understand Reynolds was a pretty heavy tipper, is that right?

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He always took good care of me and the boys, the waiters, he was very generous.

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Did he expect anything special in return for the tips that he gave you?

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I don't think I understand.

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Oh I think you do.

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How about it?

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Well he was always very good to us, all of us.

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I could hardly refuse.

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Refuse what?

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When he first moved into the hotel he became friendly with me.

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Introduced himself, gave me a good tip in advance to take care of him.

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First few nights here he spent at the cocktail bar, you know meeting people, buying a few

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drinks, getting acquainted.

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Third or fourth night, that's when he asked me.

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Yeah?

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He said when some prominent women came into the dining room, wealthy women, would I point

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them out to him?

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Single women of course.

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I couldn't see any harm in it.

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He put a twenty dollar bill in my hand.

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I said yes I would, after all we have to look out for ourselves.

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Did he expect anything else for those tips?

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I don't know.

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I don't think you'd be right if I told you.

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You know why we're here Mr. Kingsbury, we leveled with him.

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We expect you to do the same with us.

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Well there was the two Wagner sisters, they came here every Sunday night for dinner, regular

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routine for them.

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Yeah?

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Mr. Reynolds was at the bar, he asked who they were and I told him, he seemed impressed.

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He asked me to help with an introduction to them and I did.

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Next afternoon he came to me again, he said he was taking one of the Wagner sisters to

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dinner that night.

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It was important to him, he gave me another big tip, said he wanted us to roll out the

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red carpet for him that night.

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What'd that consist of?

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Well special consideration, the best treatment in the house, you know.

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I was to act as if I'd known him for years.

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Well it was a good tip, I did what he asked, as I say we have to look out for ourselves.

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Has it happened more than once today?

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Two or three times, yeah.

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Miss Wagner, Dorothy Wagner, she seemed impressed.

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At the time I didn't think anything was wrong with it.

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You actually didn't know Reynolds, is that right?

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You'd never seen him before.

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Well I suppose, yes, I only found out later though reading the papers, I mean what really

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happened.

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I didn't know what he was at the time.

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You couldn't see what Reynolds was up to, you didn't know what he was doing?

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No, naturally not, he was a good tipper, that's all I know, it was the money.

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We have to look out for ourselves.

328
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Yeah.

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I felt sorry about Miss Wagner, I went to the funeral.

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They couldn't say I'm to blame, could they?

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What happened I mean, it's not on my conscience, you wouldn't say so, would you?

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She's dead mister, you figure it.

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Thursday October 13th, the investigation continued, still no sign of the suspect.

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We got an answer from Las Vegas and also from the Chicago PD's bunker detail on our inquiries.

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They enclosed mug shots and fingerprint classification of the suspect, Frank Richland, alias Charles

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R. Reynolds.

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The pictures were shown to witnesses and acquaintances who'd known the suspect and they definitely

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established Frank Richland and Charles Reynolds as one and the same person.

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We got out a supplementary APB containing the latest information on the suspect.

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Saturday October 15th, we got our second complaint on the marriage bunko artist, this time from

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the proprietress of a small chain of lunch counters in the San Pedro area, a Miss Hoggar

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Lindstrom.

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Ed and I drove down to the harbor area where we interviewed her at one of her lunch counters.

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She identified Richland's mug shot.

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Another story of the married swindle matched closely with that of the previous victim, Dorothy

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Wagner.

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Yeah, he was a fine gentleman, Mr. John Richland.

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They don't know what happened, they don't know what to say.

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He told you he was from England, Miss Lindstrom, is that right?

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Yeah, he talked like English when he could speak good English, like from London or someplace.

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Says he builds boats, big ones.

352
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How did he find me?

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Big boats.

354
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Oh yes.

355
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He told me that's his business.

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He said he had lots of money, he would sail around the world on a honeymoon.

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Maybe he will come back still, I hope so.

358
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I wouldn't count on that, Miss Lindstrom.

359
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Would you tell us this please, how did you happen to meet this man, Richland?

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At the hotel up the street, the big hotel, bacon shirt to you, the one on Jackson Street.

361
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Yes ma'am.

362
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They seemed to know he was a rich man, nice close he wore.

363
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He spent money a lot.

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When they got married, they spent lots of money.

365
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Where were you married ma'am?

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We went down to Mexico.

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One weekend we went down there and we got married.

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It was romantic, very nice.

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Even Lars liked it.

370
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Who's that ma'am?

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Lars, that's him down the counter there.

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Lars, my brother.

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Oh, your brother went along with you when you got married, is that right?

374
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Lars and I go every place together.

375
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They don't do anything without Lars.

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Mr. Richland was nice about it.

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He doesn't seem to mind Lars.

378
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Just a minute they call him.

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Lars, Lars.

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Lars and I run the business together at the soda fountain we have.

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It's a long time we have worked at it, hard work.

382
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Yes ma'am, I guess so.

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We make good living, not easy though.

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That's why it was so bad, Mr. Richland.

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Three thousand dollars it took.

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These are the police Lars, they want to know about Mr. Richland.

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How are you sir?

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He was no good.

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When they find him they hit him.

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Now the three thousand dollars he got from you ma'am, how did that work?

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I mean, did you give him the money, lend it to him?

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Just what was it?

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When we came back from Mexico from being married, Mr. Richland and me and Lars, he said he was

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waiting for money from his bank in New York.

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Mr. Richland said that.

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He wrote me a check for three thousand dollars.

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I gave him our check for three thousand.

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Even Lars thought it was all right.

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Didn't you Lars?

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Yeah, he was crazy, his check was no good.

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He beat him up, they punched him good.

402
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That's quite a bit of money Miss Lindstrom.

403
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What kind of a story did he give you?

404
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He would buy the tickets for a honeymoon trip, that's what he said.

405
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A long trip together, romantic.

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Mr. Richland and me and Lars.

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He didn't mind Lars coming along either, did he Lars?

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No he didn't mind.

409
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Now this Ritland disappeared right after he cashed your check, is that right?

410
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Yes sir, he got the money and he was gone six days ago.

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We never heard him.

412
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I don't know why he did this to us.

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I thought he loved me.

414
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I thought he was my husband.

415
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We haven't seen or heard anything of him since he disappeared?

416
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Not me nor Lars, but maybe we know.

417
00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,040
That's why we call you officers.

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Yes ma'am.

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We have this friend, Antony M. Swenson.

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He met Mr. Richland once when he was here.

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Swenson called Lars on the telephone.

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He said he saw Mr. Richland downtown, going into the hotel.

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Are you sure it was Richland?

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Yes, he said he thought so.

425
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How long ago did he see him?

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Last night.

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We got on the phone right away and talked to the friend of the Lindstroms, James Swenson.

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He gave us the name and location of the downtown hotel where he thought he'd seen the suspect Richland the night before.

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Ed called the hotel and checked with the desk clerk.

430
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Yes, that's right.

431
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Fairly tall, wavy gray hair, fair complexion.

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He might be registered as John Richland.

433
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That's right.

434
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Okay, we'll check with you later.

435
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Bye.

436
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Good luck.

437
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Guy registered as Harold Richland.

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Descriptions match.

439
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He's still there.

440
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Checked out this morning.

441
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Saturday, October 15th, 2.30 p.m.

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Ed Jacobs and I drove back downtown to the hotel where the bunko suspect Richland supposedly had been staying.

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The desk clerk definitely identified his mugshot and told us that the man registered as Harold Richland

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had checked out a few minutes before 9 a.m. that morning.

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No forwarding address.

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We examined the room he'd been staying in, talked to the residents and the employees of the hotel,

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but we failed to come up with a single lead as to the suspect's whereabouts.

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During the week that followed, we received three different kickbacks on the all points we'd gotten out on Richland.

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We checked each one of them out, but they failed to materialize into anything.

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We stayed on it. October 19th, Wednesday, 7.50 a.m.

469
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Morning. Hi. What's doing?

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I got a first call from Forgery. I went over to talk to them and came up with something on the Richland thing.

471
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Yeah, what's that?

472
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:38,040
Picked up a woman last night named Helen Stokes. She's got a good-sized record of checks, bunko records.

473
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Got her this time on a check beef. She wrote one for $3,500.

474
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Yeah, well, how's it tying with us?

475
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Check was made out to Harold Richland.

476
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8.15 a.m. We signed out, drove over to the main jail and had the Forgery suspect Helen Stokes

477
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brought to one of the interrogation rooms.

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She was a dark-haired, fairly attractive woman in her early 30s.

479
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As a bunko artist, she apparently knew her trade pretty well.

480
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She was relaxed and talkative.

481
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:10,040
She told us Richland had introduced himself to her at a Palm Springs resort the week before.

482
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When did the business of the check come up?

483
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,040
Soon as we got back in town, he gave me the story his money was in a New York bank.

484
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I played along with the gag. He wrote me a piece of wallpaper for $3,500.

485
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I did the same for him. What's the difference? Nobody hurt.

486
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Both check, solid rubber.

487
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Maybe you forget, ma'am. There's a law against it.

488
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It's only a gag. I told you that.

489
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I would have loved to have seen his face when he found out the check was a phony.

490
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You don't think they're going to push the charge against me, do you?

491
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,040
No, we've already told you, miss. You wrote a bad one. There's a law against it.

492
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,040
I was only stringing him along. I knew his check was a phony, too.

493
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,040
I didn't have anything to gain.

494
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,040
Look, suppose I help you find him.

495
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Will you give me a hand on this? See, I get a break.

496
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,040
We can't make any promises. You cooperate, helps find Richland, be taken into consideration.

497
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,040
All right, you're on. You can tell lover boy I tipped you.

498
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,040
You know where Richland is now?

499
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,040
I can come close to it.

500
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,040
How do you mean?

501
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,040
I know where he'll be next week.

502
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:03,040
On further questioning, Helen Stokes told us that on one occasion while she was at Palm Springs with Richland,

503
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:08,040
she prowled his hotel room, went through his personal effects, and read his correspondence.

504
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:14,040
She told us that she read one letter from a friend of Richland's inviting him for a visit the week of October 31st.

505
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,040
She also noted Richland's answer, accepting the invitation.

506
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:25,040
She said the friend's name was Maurice Archer and that the letter came from an Ocean Boulevard address in the beach town of Venice.

507
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:33,040
We went back to the office, ran Archer's name through R&I, and found out that he had a previous criminal record of petty theft and grand theft.

508
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:38,040
We located him at an Ocean Boulevard address and brought him in for interrogation.

509
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,040
If there was any trouble, he wanted no part of it.

510
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,040
After talking to him only a few minutes, he broke down and told us where we could find Richland,

511
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,040
an address out near the end of Melrose Avenue.

512
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:53,040
It was an apartment court. The suspect was registered in one of the rear cottages under the name of Reynolds.

513
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:58,040
He wasn't at home. Ed and I went on stakeout inside the cottage.

514
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,040
We waited. 6.30 p.m.

515
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,040
Somebody coming in?

516
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,040
Yeah.

517
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,040
Hold it right there, Mr. Police Officers.

518
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,040
What's this?

519
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,040
Hands out and they open. Come on up.

520
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,040
I don't understand this.

521
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,040
You want to shake them down in?

522
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,040
Yeah.

523
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,040
All right, he's clean.

524
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,040
Look, I don't know what you want, officers, but this is a mistake.

525
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,040
Your name Charles Reynolds?

526
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,040
Reynolds? No, my name's Richland.

527
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,040
That'll do. Let's go.

528
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,040
Now, just a minute, please. What am I accused of? Who's accusing me?

529
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,040
The last pigeon you had lined up. She wanted us to tell you. Helen Stokes.

530
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:32,040
Stokes. Funny, Dame. You can't believe her, officer. She's phony. She's nothing but a con artist.

531
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,040
That's a good reason to believe her.

532
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,040
What?

533
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,040
Takes one to know one.

534
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:41,040
7.05 p.m. After checking through the cottage, Ed and I drove Richland downtown and took him to the interrogation room.

535
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:47,040
He'd admit nothing. We called Miss Wagner, the sister of his first victim, and she was still in town.

536
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,040
She agreed to come down to the office to confront the suspect.

537
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,040
So did the second victim, Hoggar Lindstrom, and her brother Lars.

538
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,040
Cars were set out to pick them up.

539
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,040
At a special show up, Richland was picked out as the suspect.

540
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,040
We took him back to the interrogation room. Miss Wagner was the first one called in.

541
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:11,040
She again identified Richland, alias Reynolds, as the man who had married and swindled her sister Dorothy.

542
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,040
All right, Miss Wagner. That'll be all. Thanks very much for coming in.

543
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,040
Yes, all right. Thank you.

544
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:20,040
Look, I don't know that woman. I'm not trying to be stubborn, but I'm afraid you're wrong. I'm not the man you want.

545
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,040
Lindstrom's are outside, Joe. Wait.

546
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,040
All right. Bring him in.

547
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:30,040
Miss Lindstrom, Mr. Lindstrom, come in, please.

548
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:35,040
Miss Lindstrom, Mr. Lindstrom.

549
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,040
Yeah, it's him.

550
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,040
Yeah. I don't know you. I've never seen you before.

551
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,040
You married me, John. You wanted to be my husband. You said that.

552
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,040
Why did you want to hurt me?

553
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,040
Sorry, I don't know her.

554
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,040
I don't know her.

555
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,040
I don't know her.

556
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,040
I don't know her.

557
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,040
You said that. Why did you want to hurt me?

558
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,040
Sorry, I don't know her.

559
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:59,040
You said for you and me and Lars to go on the boat, honeymoon around the world.

560
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,040
You and me and Lars, you said all those things. Why did you want to hurt us?

561
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,040
Oh, well, I've read enough for you.

562
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,040
I don't know what they're talking about. They bait you up.

563
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,040
Take it easy, Mr. Lindstrom.

564
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,040
Lars.

565
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,040
Lies. He said we all go around the world, honeymoon.

566
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,040
All right, all right. Get him out of here.

567
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,040
Okay, Mr. Lindstrom. Thanks.

568
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,040
I'm going to get Lars. Come.

569
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,040
Please, stop this way, please.

570
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,040
Yes, I need him. I need him. Thank you very much.

571
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,040
Yeah, yeah. All right.

572
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,040
All right, Richard, you ready to give us a statement?

573
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,040
All right, I'll tell you. You can't blame me for that one.

574
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,040
You wouldn't have gone through with that deal yourself. Nobody would.

575
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,040
What's wrong? A nice-looking girl?

576
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,040
Sure, I don't mean that.

577
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,040
What do you mean?

578
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,040
A big clown or Brother Lars.

579
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,040
Yeah?

580
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,040
I'd take that along on a honeymoon.

581
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,040
The story you have just heard was true.

582
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,040
The names were changed to protect the innocent.

583
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,040
On January 14th, trial was held in Superior Court,

584
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,040
Department 88, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California.

585
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,040
In a moment, the results of that trial.

586
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,040
Now, here is our star, Jack Webb.

587
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,040
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588
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,040
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600
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,040
Frank Richland was tried and convicted of two counts of grand theft

601
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,040
and three counts of forgery of a fictitious name.

602
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,040
After serving his term in the State Penitentiary at San Quentin, California,

603
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,040
he is to be released to Chicago authorities for prosecution.

604
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:19,040
Grand theft is punishable by imprisonment for not less than one, nor more than 10 years.

605
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:25,040
Forgery of a fictitious name is punishable by imprisonment from 2 to 14 years.

606
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,040
You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from official files.

607
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:34,040
Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police, W.H. Parker, Los Angeles Police Department.

608
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,040
Heard tonight were Barney Phillips and Virginia Gregg.

609
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,040
Script by Jim Moser.

610
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,040
Music by Walter Schuman.

611
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,040
Hal Gibney speaking.

612
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:55,040
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613
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614
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615
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