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41 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:43,680 Hi. 42 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:44,680 Did she show up yet? 43 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:45,680 No, not a couple of minutes ago. 44 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,120 She's waiting for us now in the next room. 45 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,360 Did you talk to her at all? 46 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,360 No. 47 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,360 Seems to be a nice enough woman. 48 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:51,840 I don't know how much help she's going to be. 49 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:52,840 Yeah. 50 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:53,840 Go ahead. 51 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:54,840 Yeah, thank you. 52 00:02:54,840 --> 00:03:00,080 Miss Banner, I'd like to have you meet my partner, Sergeant Friday. 53 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,440 Joe, this is Miss Banner. 54 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,440 Hello. 55 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,600 I'm sorry I wasn't home when you stopped by yesterday, Sergeant. 56 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,600 I got the card you left though. 57 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,280 I called in as soon as I got home. 58 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,040 Well, thanks for coming in, Miss Banner. 59 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,480 We have a few questions we'd like to ask you. 60 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,480 It won't take very long. 61 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,920 We have a communication from Atlantis Dillon back in New York, Miss Banner. 62 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:17,000 It's about her brother, Chester Dillon. 63 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,440 We understand you rented his home from him out on Wilson Avenue. 64 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:20,440 Mr. Dillon? 65 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,440 Well, yes. 66 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,440 I've got a two-year lease on the house. 67 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,440 I rented it from him last November. 68 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,040 Well, according to the letter we got from Mr. Dillon's sister, she's worried about him. 69 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,520 She hasn't heard from him in some time. 70 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,520 Do you have any idea where we could contact him? 71 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,800 Well, last I heard, he left on a trip to New York. 72 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,280 That was about eight weeks ago, I'd say. 73 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,600 You see, I usually sent a check for the rent, the apartment he had here, and when he left 74 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,400 on his trip, he told me to hold on to the rent checks and he'd collect them when he 75 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,400 got back. 76 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,080 How long did he say he'd be gone? 77 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,080 I don't remember definitely. 78 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,480 I think he said four or five months. 79 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,680 He didn't leave any forwarding address, any place you could contact him back east? 80 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,680 No, he didn't. 81 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:51,680 He just wanted to get away. 82 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,160 Didn't want to be bothered with anyone. 83 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,440 He wasn't feeling very well. 84 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,200 He was very depressed, poor man. 85 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,200 Well, why was that, ma'am? 86 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,200 Do you know? 87 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,800 Well, his wife died just a few months ago, you know. 88 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,080 No, ma'am, we didn't know. 89 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,440 All we got from his sister was that she hadn't heard from Dillon. 90 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:04,440 She was worrying. 91 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,160 She didn't give us any other information. 92 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,160 Oh, yes. 93 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,760 Mrs. Dillon died in last September, I think it was. 94 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,800 Poor man felt terrible about it. 95 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,680 Couldn't seem to get over it. 96 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:15,960 That's why he rented the house to me. 97 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,560 It reminded him too much of her. 98 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,560 Yes, ma'am, I understand. 99 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,000 Lovely home they have. 100 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,560 Mr. Dillon said he really didn't want to rent it, but he couldn't stand being alone in 101 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:24,560 the house. 102 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:25,560 It was a large place, you know. 103 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,560 Yes, ma'am. 104 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,000 We checked with the people living in the house now. 105 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,000 We understand you leased the place to them last month. 106 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,000 I subleased it, yes. 107 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,000 You see, it just got too big for me. 108 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,520 It was nice at first, but it got to be an awful lot of work. 109 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,440 I rented it to this family and took a smaller house down the street. 110 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,720 Would you happen to know any of Mr. Dillon's friends in the city, Miss Banner, anyone we 111 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,000 could contact who might know where we can locate him? 112 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,000 I don't know. 113 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,360 He didn't seem to have any friends. 114 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,280 He and his wife had only been in the city a year before she died. 115 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:51,440 He was retired, you know. 116 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Yes, ma'am. 117 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:53,440 We talked to some of the neighbors out there. 118 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,280 They couldn't tell us much about him. 119 00:04:55,280 --> 00:04:57,680 Maybe some of the people he did business with might know something. 120 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,760 Have you tried the neighborhood bank out there? 121 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,440 I know that's where Mr. Dillon had his account. 122 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,440 No, ma'am, we haven't yet. 123 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,200 Well, I can give you the bank's address. 124 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,720 It's about all, though. 125 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,160 That's the only contact you know of? 126 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,640 I'm afraid so, yes. 127 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,600 I didn't know much about Mr. Dillon's private affairs. 128 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,040 Whenever I talked to him, it seemed the only thing he had on his mind was his wife's death. 129 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,000 He couldn't seem to get over it. 130 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,360 Seemed like he didn't want to get over it. 131 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,160 You mentioned that when you leased his home, Mr. Dillon took an apartment. 132 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,160 Do you happen to have that address, Miss Banner? 133 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,960 Well, I don't have it with me now, but I have it at home. 134 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,520 I can call in and give it to you if you like. 135 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,520 If you would, please. 136 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:30,520 Certainly. 137 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:31,520 Well, thank you very much, Miss Banner. 138 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:32,520 You have our card. 139 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,480 When you hear anything at all from Mr. Dillon, we'd appreciate it if you'd call us. 140 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,600 Surely, I'll call you right away. 141 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,040 Do you think something could have happened to him? 142 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,520 Well, if possible, we don't know. 143 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,000 All we have is the letter from his sister. 144 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,360 It does seem kind of strange, doesn't it? 145 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,080 He wasn't feeling too well. 146 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,560 I wondered why he hadn't contacted me about sending the rent money to him. 147 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,680 He was such a nice man, Mr. Dillon. 148 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,280 I certainly hope nothing's happened to him. 149 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:56,720 Well, you say he was very depressed about his wife's death, ma'am. 150 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,520 Would you say that it was getting to be a little abnormal with him, maybe? 151 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,440 Well, I wouldn't know about that, Sergeant, but I didn't know he brooded about it all 152 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,440 the time. 153 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:05,440 He felt that he'd lost everything. 154 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,760 He didn't seem to want to go on. 155 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,960 Did he ever give you an indication that maybe he might take his own life? 156 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,160 I mean, all this brooding over his wife? 157 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,840 Well, no, nothing definite. 158 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:16,560 Just depressed and moody all the time. 159 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,800 Oh, now that I remember it, the last time I saw him, he did say something kind of funny. 160 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:21,800 Yes, ma'am. 161 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:22,800 What was that? 162 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:23,800 It was the day before he left. 163 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,480 We were talking about the rent money, and I asked him if I could send it to him. 164 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,760 He got kind of a strange look on his face. 165 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:33,560 He said, where I'm going, I won't need the money. 166 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,280 The day before we called on Lucille Banner for an interview, a letter had been received 167 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:40,000 from a Miss Gladys Dillon in Elmira, New York. 168 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,600 Her request was routine. 169 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,580 It was one of thousands of similar letters received every year by police departments 170 00:06:45,580 --> 00:06:47,280 all over the country. 171 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:51,480 Each one of them has to be worked out to the satisfaction of all parties concerned, the 172 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,400 person who's reported missing and the person looking for them. 173 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,400 It's an enormous job requiring thousands of man hours annually. 174 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,400 Like the dozens of other investigations handled by the police officer, some of them end happily, 175 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,040 some of them in tragedy. 176 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,600 Whatever the result, the finding of a lost person is just as important to function of 177 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,040 your local police department as any other investigation. 178 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,760 Gladys Dillon hadn't heard from her brother recently. 179 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,760 She was worried about him. 180 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,880 She asked us to investigate. 181 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,920 Our initial interview with Lucille Banner, the woman who'd rented Chester Dillon's home, 182 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,620 failed to yield much of a lead as to his whereabouts. 183 00:07:23,620 --> 00:07:26,760 The only source of additional information she could offer was the neighborhood bank 184 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,920 where Dillon had his account. 185 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,440 At four o'clock that afternoon, Ben and I drove out to interview the manager of the 186 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,440 bank, Mr. Harrison. 187 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,400 Yes, that's right. 188 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,000 Mr. Dillon's had his account with us ever since he came to Los Angeles. 189 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,360 I know him quite well. 190 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,960 Is there something you'd like to know about him? 191 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:42,960 Yes, sir, there is. 192 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,440 We had a request from his sister in New York she'd like to look in. 193 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,480 Well, I'm pretty sure his account's still open here. 194 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:49,480 Matter of fact, I'm positive it is. 195 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,480 At this moment, I'll have one of the clerks get his file. 196 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,480 All right, thanks, Mr. Harrison. 197 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,480 That reminds me, I almost forgot. 198 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,480 Yeah, what's that? 199 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,320 I've got to get to the bank tomorrow for sure, payment on my car's a day past due already. 200 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:01,920 I only got two payments left. 201 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:02,920 Oh, you're doing fine. 202 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,600 I got another eight months to go. 203 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:05,600 I'm not so fine. 204 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,520 Two more payments to go and now the wife wants a new one. 205 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:09,520 Never fail. 206 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,520 Here we are, Sergeant, just as I thought. 207 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,240 Mr. Dillon's account is still open. 208 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,240 Uh-huh. 209 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,240 There have been any recent deposits or withdrawals on the account? 210 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,240 Let's have a look here. 211 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,240 Uh-huh. 212 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,240 Just as I thought, nothing since he left on his trip. 213 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,600 His last withdrawal date was November 27th. 214 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,920 He mentioned to you that he was going on a trip, didn't he? 215 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,400 Yes, I think he said he was going back to New York, more or less a vacation trip. 216 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,120 His wife died recently. 217 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,640 He didn't take it too well. 218 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:36,640 Yes, we understand. 219 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,000 Did he leave any instructions about his account with you, Mr. Harrison, any address you could 220 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,480 contact him at if you had to? 221 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,160 No, he didn't leave any instructions with me. 222 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,240 No address, just a vacation trip. 223 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,040 He said he didn't expect to be gone too long. 224 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,440 Did he mention how long it would be? 225 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,960 Five or six weeks, I think that's what he said. 226 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,520 I happened to talk to him about it because at the time he made quite a sizable withdrawal. 227 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,600 I thought maybe he was a little unhappy with our service. 228 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,600 How much was the withdrawal, sir? 229 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,600 Let's see. 230 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,120 Here it is, November 27th. 231 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,880 He withdrew $2,400. 232 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,520 Was that in cash or in Travis' checks? 233 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:09,520 Do you know that? 234 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,400 No, it shows here that it was in cash. 235 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,640 Mr. Harrison, you said a minute ago that you knew Mr. Dillon pretty well. 236 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:17,640 Yes, that's right. 237 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,320 He used to stop and chat with me whenever he'd come in the bank. 238 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,320 That was usually once a week. 239 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,120 I didn't know him socially though. 240 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,040 You mentioned he seemed to take his wife's death pretty hard. 241 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,960 What would you say his mental condition was last time he saw him? 242 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,440 All right, I'd say. 243 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,000 Just after his wife's death, he wasn't in very good shape. 244 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,240 He brooded about it quite a bit. 245 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,240 And he began to pull out of it. 246 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,800 He seemed to be in a fairly good frame of mind. 247 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,160 He planned his vacation. 248 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,800 He was looking forward to it. 249 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:43,800 I see. 250 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:44,800 Why do you ask? 251 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:45,800 Is something wrong? 252 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:46,800 No, sir, not that we know of. 253 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,680 Routine check, that's about the size of it. 254 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:52,240 Does Dillon have any other real estate besides the house on Ralston Avenue? 255 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,240 Would you happen to know that? 256 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,840 Not to my knowledge, no. 257 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,280 He has no other business connections in Los Angeles. 258 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,480 Here are all his references right here. 259 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,000 See, most of them are charge accounts and so forth. 260 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,440 I remember the time he opened his account with us. 261 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:07,440 He told me he was retired. 262 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,960 He and his wife came out here for their help. 263 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,400 Do they have any relatives out here? 264 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,400 Do you know, Mr. Harrison? 265 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,120 No, from what I understand, both of their families are in the East. 266 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,160 They don't have any children according to his application. 267 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,160 They don't have any repute relatives. 268 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:24,360 And since Dillon was in here last November to make that withdrawal, you've had no communications 269 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:25,360 from him at all, have you? 270 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,360 No, sir, I haven't. 271 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,360 What seems to be the trouble? 272 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,480 Do you have an idea of something might be wrong? 273 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,280 Nothing definite, no, sir. 274 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,880 We've been told about his feeling depressed over his wife's death and there was some indication 275 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,840 he might possibly have done away with himself. 276 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,160 After what you've told us, it doesn't seem too likely. 277 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,160 I don't know. 278 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,440 I wouldn't like to commit myself. 279 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,400 As I say, he did seem to be getting over it. 280 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,760 I didn't know him that well, though. 281 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,920 It might be entirely possible. 282 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,240 He was devoted to Mrs. Dillon. 283 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,240 Maybe he could have taken his own life. 284 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,240 I don't know. 285 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,520 Well, it leaves a big question to answer, doesn't it? 286 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:56,520 What's that? 287 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,760 Why do you need the $2,400 to do it? 288 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,040 1.25 p.m. 289 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,440 We continued interviewing the bank manager, Mr. Harrison, but he was unable to come up 290 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,400 with any further leads. 291 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,640 Before we left the bank, he gave us a complete list of all of Chester Dillon's references. 292 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,260 We gave him our card and he told us he would pass along immediately any information he 293 00:11:15,260 --> 00:11:17,720 might get on the whereabouts of Mr. Dillon. 294 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:18,720 1.45. 295 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,000 We went back to the office where we got a call from Lucille Banner. 296 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,080 She gave us Dillon's last known address and we drove out to check it. 297 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,180 It was an apartment court in the Pico Crenshaw area. 298 00:11:29,180 --> 00:11:33,240 We talked to the manager and she told us that Dillon had moved out three months before, 299 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,240 on November 22nd. 300 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,720 He told her that he was moving in with a close friend of his and he gave her his forwarding 301 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:39,720 address. 302 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,940 It turned out to be a single-story frame cottage located in one of the older residential districts 303 00:11:43,940 --> 00:11:44,940 of the city. 304 00:11:44,940 --> 00:11:48,240 The name on the mailbox read Raymond L. Schaefer. 305 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,600 We rang the bell and a man who identified himself as Raymond Schaefer hushed us into 306 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,160 a small living room. 307 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,240 He told us that he was from the same town in the east that the Dillon's came from and 308 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,920 that he was a long-time friend of theirs. 309 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,120 No, I haven't seen Chester for months. 310 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,120 Last November I think it was. 311 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,400 That was the last time I saw him. 312 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,200 You say at that time Dillon was living in the apartment down in the Crenshaw area, Mr. 313 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,200 Schaefer. 314 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,200 Yeah, that's right. 315 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,200 You mean he never came here to live with you? 316 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,800 No, it's just like I told you before. 317 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,960 He talked about moving in here with me, but he never did. 318 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,280 I have no idea where he is. 319 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,720 Well, he gave you a name here as a forwarding address, Schaefer. 320 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:18,960 Have you been getting his mail? 321 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,480 Yeah, matter of fact I have. 322 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,400 He told me he was going to do that. 323 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:23,760 Never came to pick it up though. 324 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:24,760 Seemed funny to me. 325 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,360 You're still getting his mail here, is that right? 326 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:27,360 Yeah, it's still coming. 327 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,360 Not much of it. 328 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:29,480 Maybe a letter a week. 329 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,240 Mostly bills and advertising. 330 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,440 This list of names you've given us, sir, these are all the people in the east Mr. Dillon 331 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,520 was acquainted with, people he might contact on his trip back there, is that right? 332 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,520 That's all of them. 333 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,680 As far as I know, he hadn't been back there yet though. 334 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:41,680 How do you know that? 335 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:44,480 I got a letter from my sister Gert a couple of days ago. 336 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,440 If Chester was in town, Gert would have known about it. 337 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,760 He would have been sure to stop by and see her. 338 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:49,760 I wish I could help you. 339 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,800 To tell you the truth, I'm getting a little worried about him myself. 340 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,480 Well, just one more question, Mr. Schaefer. 341 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,280 You know if Mr. Dillon was in the habit of carrying large sums of money around with him? 342 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,560 No, I don't think so. 343 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:01,520 Chester was pretty cautious that way. 344 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,280 He wasn't too free with a dollar, you know. 345 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,480 Would you happen to know if he had a large sum of money with him the last time you saw 346 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:07,480 him? 347 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,080 No, if he did have, he didn't mention it. 348 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,080 I see. 349 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,240 Would you think of anything else that might give us a lead on Mr. Dillon's whereabouts, 350 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,240 anything at all? 351 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,960 I think I've told you everything. 352 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,560 I wish there was something I could tell you that had helped. 353 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:20,240 I sure hope nothing's happened to him. 354 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,240 Yes, sir. 355 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,720 Now, would you mind showing us that mail you're holding for Dillon, please? 356 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:24,720 Oh, sure, sir. 357 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:25,720 It's right over here. 358 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:26,720 It's in the desk. 359 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:27,720 There you are. 360 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:28,720 That's all of it. 361 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:29,720 Thank you. 362 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:30,720 Anything, Joe? 363 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:31,720 No, not much. 364 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,720 Bills, circulars. 365 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:44,400 There's one with a New York postmark, now, Maya, probably from his sister. 366 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,040 There's another one. 367 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,040 Only three days old. 368 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,440 From the union department store. 369 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,920 A couple more earlier dates on it. 370 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:50,920 That's about it. 371 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,360 You know, I'll copy down the return addresses on it. 372 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,360 Fine. 373 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,360 Mr. Schaffer? 374 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,360 Yeah? 375 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,800 There's a suitcase by the desk here. 376 00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,800 Initials on it. 377 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:00,800 CLD? 378 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:01,800 Yeah. 379 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,560 CLD, is that your bag, Schaffer? 380 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:05,360 Oh, no, I forgot to tell you. 381 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,840 Chester left that here one day. 382 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:07,840 Huh? 383 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:08,840 How was that? 384 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,160 Well, that was one day just before he was going to leave on his vacation. 385 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,400 He brought it over here and said he'd like to leave it with me. 386 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,040 Forgot to mention it to you. 387 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,040 You bring anything else with him? 388 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,720 Yeah, he brought another suitcase with him, just like this one. 389 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,680 I got it in the other room. 390 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,840 He said he wanted to leave them here while he was on his vacation. 391 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,640 I'm sorry, I forgot to mention it. 392 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,480 Well, maybe you forgot something else, Schaffer. 393 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,480 What? 394 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,120 You don't take their suitcases on a trip, don't they? 395 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,280 2.30 p.m. 396 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,200 We continued questioning Raymond Schaffer. 397 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,000 We opened the two suitcases labeled with the initials of Chester Dillon and found an assortment 398 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,640 of personal items which Schaffer told us belonged to Dillon and his late wife. 399 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,640 Small pictures, cigarette boxes, books, similar articles, which apparently would not be taken 400 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:50,640 on a vacation trip. 401 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,760 None of them were of any great value. 402 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,180 After we left Schaffer's home, we checked into R&I and found he had no criminal record. 403 00:14:58,180 --> 00:15:01,680 We checked further with friends and acquaintances of both men and found nothing to indicate 404 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,680 that Schaffer was in any way involved in the disappearance of Chester Dillon. 405 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,360 3.30 p.m. 406 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,760 We called the office and found that there had been no answers so far to the broadcast 407 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,900 and missing persons bulletins that we'd gotten out on Dillon. 408 00:15:13,900 --> 00:15:17,200 We started checking the references given us by the bank. 409 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,920 First was the Union Department store. 410 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,360 It was located on Main Street in the south end of town. 411 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,920 We checked with the credit department to see what information we could get from them. 412 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:26,920 Yes? 413 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,280 Yes, here's the file on the Dillon's right here. 414 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,000 Chester Ellen Sarah J. on Ralston Avenue. 415 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,280 Yes ma'am, that's the one. 416 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:35,720 What information would you like, sir? 417 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,520 We're trying to locate Mr. Dillon, ma'am. 418 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,640 Have you had any recent change of address on that account? 419 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,640 No, we haven't. 420 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:41,640 They moved, you know. 421 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:42,640 Well, we believe so. 422 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,640 We don't know his present address, though. 423 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,880 Well, we do have an outstanding bill of theirs, I noticed. 424 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,560 Sent them several form letters. 425 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,840 We've been trying to contact them ourselves. 426 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,720 Have there been any recent charges on that account, you know? 427 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:55,720 Let's see. 428 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,680 Nothing too recent, no. 429 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,680 Last charge was made on December 5th. 430 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,120 Yes, Thursday, December 5th. 431 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,080 That's a couple of weeks after he disappeared, Joe. 432 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,080 Yeah, that's right. 433 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,200 What was that charge for, ma'am? 434 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,200 What did Mr. Dillon buy? 435 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,200 Oh, Mr. Dillon didn't buy anything. 436 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Beg your pardon? 437 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:25,600 The slip was signed by Mrs. Dillon. 438 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:31,160 You are listening to Dragnet, authentic stories of your police force in action. 439 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,840 If you smoke king-size cigarettes, listen to Fatima's amazing new 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00:18:06,680 That was a little more than two and a half months after Sarah Dillon had died. 464 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:11,280 Who the person was who forged her signature or why they'd forged it, we had no idea. 465 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:16,240 The amount of the charge purchased as shown on the sales slip was for $418, all of it 466 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,040 for women's clothing. 467 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,160 We attempted to check with the sales girl who handled the purchase, Allora Van Kurt, 468 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,240 but we were told it was her day off. 469 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,600 We called her home. 470 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,480 They told us that she was gone for the day and couldn't be located. 471 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,760 They said she'd be at work the following morning. 472 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:34,240 4.40 p.m., Ben and I took the sales slip with the forged signature on it and drove back 473 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,240 to the office. 474 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,000 We went directly to forgery detail, briefed them on our findings and gave them the sales 475 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,000 slip. 476 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,480 Then we drove back to the home of the Dillon's friend, Raymond Schaefer, and checked through 477 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,200 the two suitcases there. 478 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,400 We came up with a small photo of Mrs. Dillon along with exemplars of her handwriting as 479 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,600 well as her husband's, which we found in an autograph album in one of the suitcases. 480 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,920 The handwriting samples were checked against the signature on the sales slip, but neither 481 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,480 of them matched. 482 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:03,280 The work of compiling a list of all known female forgery suspects was begun immediately. 483 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,120 The following morning, Ben and I went back to the Union department store where we interviewed 484 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:10,080 the sales girl, Laura Van Kirk, who'd handled the purchase. 485 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,400 Yes, I remember making the sale officer. 486 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,920 I'm not too sure about the woman who bought the things, though. 487 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:16,920 I mean what she looked like. 488 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,960 Well, could you try to describe her force, Miss Van Kirk, as well as you can remember? 489 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,720 She had light brown hair, I'm pretty sure of that. 490 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,600 Not too old, maybe in her late 30s, early 40s. 491 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:33,240 She was a plain looking woman, five foot five or six, thin as I remember. 492 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,960 She wore glasses, I remember that, too. 493 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:35,960 I see. 494 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,960 You got that picture, Miss Delamere, Ben? 495 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:38,960 Oh, yeah. 496 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:39,960 Here you are. 497 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,680 Would you take a look at this picture, Miss? 498 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,400 Now, does that look like the woman you waited on? 499 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,880 No, no, that's not her. 500 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,400 The woman I waited on was much younger. 501 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,480 She had light brown hair, too, not gray. 502 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,280 Thin face, I think. 503 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,640 And she wore glasses, I'm sure of that. 504 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,040 Do you remember if there was a man with her, Miss Van Kirk, or was she alone? 505 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,040 No, she was alone. 506 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:07,080 Now that I remember, there was something very different about the glasses she wore. 507 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,200 I don't know if that's important or not. 508 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,200 What about her glasses? 509 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,600 They were horn-rimmed, as I remember, very light color. 510 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,880 And there was some metal work along the top edge of the frame. 511 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,960 Very smart looking, gold metal all along the top. 512 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:25,480 Light brown hair, slight bill, thin face, late 30s or early 40s, were light horn-rimmed 513 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,480 glasses and gold metal on the frame. 514 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:28,480 Yes, that's right. 515 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,840 Check me if I'm wrong, Joe. 516 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,840 That description, Tom familiar? 517 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,600 Just what I was thinking. 518 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,600 Horn-rimmed glasses, metal work on them. 519 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,600 The woman who came to see us at the office? 520 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:38,600 Yeah, you got it. 521 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,600 Lucille Banner. 522 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:45,200 Ben and I went back to the office and had Lucille Banner check through our eyes. 523 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,840 She had no criminal record. 524 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,240 Then we drove to the home on Ralston Avenue, which Chester Dillon had leased to Lucille 525 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,060 Banner, in which she in turn had sublet. 526 00:20:53,060 --> 00:20:56,320 We obtained a copy of the lease, which the Banner woman had with the current tenants 527 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,320 and which bore her signature. 528 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,760 We brought the copy of the lease downtown, gave it to Don Meyer in handwriting, and asked 529 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,640 him to compare Lucille Banner's signature with the signature on the sales slip that 530 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,000 we'd obtained from the union department store. 531 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,480 Fifteen minutes later, he called us at the office with the result. 532 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,480 Yeah, Don. 533 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,480 Mm-hmm. 534 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,480 Good sell. 535 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,480 You're right. 536 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,480 Thanks a lot. 537 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,480 What'd he get? 538 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,960 Says there's no question in his mind. 539 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:19,960 Yeah. 540 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,960 Both signatures match perfectly. 541 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:28,360 What the reason was behind Lucille Banner's forging the signature of Mrs. Dillon on the 542 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:30,680 sales slip, we didn't know. 543 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,800 Whether or not it had any connection with the disappearance of Chester Dillon, we didn't 544 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:34,800 know. 545 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,600 As soon as we got the handwriting report from Don Meyer, Ben and I left the office immediately 546 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,960 and drove to the bungalow, which the Banner woman was renting on Ralston Avenue. 547 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,280 It was a block down the street from the Dillon house. 548 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,600 Lucille Banner wasn't at home, but a neighborhood gardener trimming a lawn in front of her house 549 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,960 told us that she was expected back shortly. 550 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,520 The gardener, who identified himself only as Julio, volunteered that he also did gardening 551 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,920 work for Miss Banner when she occupied the Dillon home. 552 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,760 He'd also worked for the Dillons when they lived in the house. 553 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,960 He told us he liked the Dillons quite a bit, but that he didn't have much use for Miss 554 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:06,960 Banner. 555 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,160 He seemed to be up on all the news in the neighborhood. 556 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,880 He trimmed the hedges of the lawn with hand shears as we talked to him. 557 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,560 Can you tell us anything about Miss Dillon and Miss Banner, Julio? 558 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,560 How'd they seem to get along, you know? 559 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,320 They get along all right, I guess. 560 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,280 When I worked at the big house down there for Miss Banner, that's before she moved, 561 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,960 I would see Mr. Dillon there. 562 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,480 He would be at the house maybe once, two times a week. 563 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,240 Miss Banner would ask him to come over for dinner for him. 564 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,800 Miss Banner likes him, I think. 565 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,320 Mr. Dillon, I don't know about him. 566 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,920 He wasn't feeling so good. 567 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,520 Still thinking about his wife. 568 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,280 Here, I'll finish up this clipping now. 569 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,680 There, all done. 570 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,800 You mentioned you don't like Miss Banner very much, Julio. 571 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:46,800 Why is that? 572 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,160 Did she ever give you a reason not to like her? 573 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,600 She's a little crazy, I think. 574 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:50,600 Funny woman. 575 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,600 When I used to work at the big house for her in the garden, she would watch me all the 576 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,400 time, follow me all around, tell me to do all kinds of crazy jobs. 577 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,280 She gave me good pay, though, so I do them. 578 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,440 How do you mean, Julio? 579 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:00,680 What kind of crazy job? 580 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,460 The compost box for fertilizer, you know. 581 00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:04,720 She wanted me to build one for her in the backyard. 582 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,120 That was down the street, the Dillon house. 583 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:07,120 Mm-hmm. 584 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:08,120 Crazy woman. 585 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:09,360 She wanted me to build a compost box in the greenhouse. 586 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:10,960 I have a special place, Mark Farrell. 587 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:11,960 Who ever heard of that? 588 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,640 To build a compost box inside a greenhouse. 589 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,640 Crazy. 590 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,640 Oh, did you build it for her? 591 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,120 Yes, but not inside the greenhouse. 592 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:19,520 I built it outside, right next door to the greenhouse. 593 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,120 When she come outside, she go crazy almost, call me names. 594 00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:23,120 Crazy. 595 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:24,120 She made me tear it up. 596 00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:27,120 Then she made me build it inside the greenhouse, right on the place she had marked for it. 597 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:29,240 Sounds weird, doesn't it? 598 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,240 When did all this happen, Julio? 599 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,240 Do you remember? 600 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,240 When you built the compost box? 601 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,160 I mean, a couple of months ago about that. 602 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,040 It was just after Mr. Dillon went away. 603 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,200 I tried to tell Miss Banner, who ever heard of a compost box in a greenhouse? 604 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,200 She wouldn't listen. 605 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,400 She had to have it built in a certain place, right in the greenhouse, little piece of ground 606 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,400 in there. 607 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,400 The box had to go right on top of it. 608 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,400 Mm-hmm. 609 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,720 You figure she acted pretty strange about it, do you? 610 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,080 You think she had something in there, little piece of ground. 611 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,600 You think she had something to hide. 612 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:59,240 One fifteen p.m., Lucille Banner returned home and Ben and I went inside the house with 613 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,960 her, where we questioned her in the living room. 614 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,720 Outside in the front yard, the gardener, Julio, continued working on the lawn. 615 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,760 Lucille Banner was calm and composed. 616 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,200 We questioned her about the forged signature on the sales slip. 617 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,200 She would admit nothing. 618 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,240 The whole thing's too silly to even comment on. 619 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,840 I don't know what you're talking about, Sergeant. 620 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,120 We think you do, Miss Banner. 621 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:19,920 Our handwriting man has checked the two signatures, one on the sales slip and one on the lease. 622 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,920 They both match. 623 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,040 They were written by the same person, there's no doubt about it. 624 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,040 Been checked thoroughly. 625 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,040 Now what about it, Miss Banner? 626 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,040 There's no way out of it. 627 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,040 You ought to know that. 628 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,040 I'll deny it. 629 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,040 That's all. 630 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,040 I'll keep on denying it. 631 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,040 I wasn't in that store and I didn't forge any signatures. 632 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,560 Why would I do a thing like that? 633 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,040 What kind of a woman do you think I am? 634 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,040 All we know are the facts, ma'am. 635 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,680 Now why don't you give us a straight story? 636 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,680 It's going to save time and trouble for everybody concerned. 637 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,240 You've heard everything I've got to say. 638 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,240 This thing's ridiculous. 639 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,240 It's stupid. 640 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,240 I'm not answering any more questions. 641 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,040 You want to get your hat and coat, Miss Banner? 642 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,040 I'm afraid you'll have to come downtown with us. 643 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,040 What good's that going to do, I'll just keep on denying it? 644 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,040 You can't make me say I did a thing like that. 645 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,040 I want to get your coat, please. 646 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,040 It's right here. 647 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,040 All right. 648 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,040 Yes, ma'am. 649 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,040 The car's right out in front. 650 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:02,040 Hold it a minute, will you, Ben? 651 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,040 Yeah, okay. 652 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,040 Julio? 653 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,040 Yes, sir. 654 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,040 Can I see a minute? 655 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,040 Sure. 656 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,040 Hello, Miss Banner. 657 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,040 William. 658 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,040 A favor I'd like to ask of you, Julio. 659 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,040 You got a couple of minutes to spare? 660 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,040 Yeah, you want something? 661 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,040 We want to take a look in the back of your car. 662 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:18,040 Mr. Dillon's house, I'd like to have you come along with us, Julio. 663 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,040 It won't take very long. 664 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,040 Sure, okay. 665 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,040 I'll come along. 666 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,040 Bring a shovel along, will you, Julio? 667 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,040 I'd like to check something. 668 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,040 Yeah, okay. 669 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,040 I'll bring one. 670 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,040 All right, Miss Banner. 671 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,040 What's this about? 672 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,040 What are you trying to do? 673 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,040 Something we want to check in the Dillon's backyard. 674 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,040 It won't take long. 675 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,040 What would it have to do with me? 676 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,040 I don't have anything to do with that house. 677 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,040 I don't even live there anymore. 678 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,040 You realize that, don't you? 679 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,040 Yes, ma'am. 680 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,040 We realize it. 681 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,040 I'll call my lawyer. 682 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,040 I'll call my lawyer. 683 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,040 I'll call my lawyer. 684 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,040 I'll call my lawyer. 685 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,040 I'll call my lawyer. 686 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:48,040 I'll call him as soon as I get to a phone. 687 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,040 Julio? 688 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,040 Back this way, Sergeant. 689 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,040 Through the gate. 690 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,040 All right. 691 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,040 What are you trying to do to me? 692 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,040 You know I don't live here anymore. 693 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,040 I don't even have anything to do with this place. 694 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,040 You did live here, ma'am. 695 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,040 You lived here when Mr. Dillon disappeared, isn't that right? 696 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,400 What are you trying to say? 697 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,960 You've got no business on this property. 698 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,440 You've got no business here at all. 699 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,440 Yes, ma'am, we have. 700 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,440 What? 701 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,440 Did you kill Mr. Dillon? 702 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,440 Did you kill him? 703 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,440 Miss Manning? 704 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,440 All right, Julio, the compost box in the greenhouse. 705 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,440 Do you want to start digging? 706 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,440 You mean the compost box? 707 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,440 Yeah, okay. 708 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:25,440 He was an old man. 709 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,440 So old he was sick. 710 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,440 Ma'am? 711 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,440 He didn't want to live anymore. 712 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,440 He didn't have any reason for living. 713 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,440 Why shouldn't he give me the house? 714 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,440 Why shouldn't I have his money? 715 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,440 I was nice to him. 716 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,440 I cooked for him. 717 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,440 I wanted to take care of him. 718 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,440 He just didn't want to live anymore, that's all. 719 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,440 All right, Julio, you can hold it up. 720 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,440 You want to tell us, ma'am? 721 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,440 He needed a woman. 722 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,440 Anybody could tell that. 723 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,440 He needed me. 724 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,440 He's got a long sign, Chester and me. 725 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,440 I offered to marry him, and he wouldn't do it. 726 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,440 All he could do was think about his wife. 727 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,440 She was dead. 728 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,440 He'd sit around and talk about her all the time. 729 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,440 You killed him. 730 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,440 Is that what you're trying to say? 731 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,440 I wanted to marry Chester and take care of him. 732 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,440 He wouldn't do it. 733 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,440 He had an argument in the kitchen one night. 734 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,440 I had a gun, and I killed him. 735 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,440 I killed him. 736 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,440 Is that where you buried him? 737 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:10,440 In the greenhouse? 738 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,440 Yes, I buried him deep. 739 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,440 The gun, too. 740 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,440 He'll be all right. 741 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,440 Poor Chester. 742 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,440 Yeah. 743 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,440 He was so old. 744 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,440 He needed a woman. 745 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,440 Anyone could tell you that. 746 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,440 He needed me. 747 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,440 Well, I guess you made a mistake. 748 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,440 No, Sergeant, he did. 749 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,440 Yeah. 750 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,440 He didn't want me. 751 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:33,440 The story you have just heard was true. 752 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:39,440 The names were changed to protect the innocent. 753 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,440 On June 2nd, trial was held in Superior Court, 754 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,440 Department 86, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California. 755 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,440 In a moment, the results of that trial. 756 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,440 And now here is our star, Jack Webb. 757 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,440 Thank you. 758 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,440 Friends, during the past couple of years, 759 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,440 we've had many talks with law enforcement agencies 760 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,440 and received hundreds of letters from police officers all over the country. 761 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,440 We're especially pleased to know that so many of these men feel as we do 762 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,440 that Fatima is the best of all King Si cigarettes. 763 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,440 As a matter of fact, our sales reports prove beyond a doubt 764 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,440 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