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The story you are about to hear is true.

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The names have been changed to protect the innocent.

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You're a detective sergeant.

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You're assigned to robbery detail.

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Two armed bandits invade the home of an elderly couple in your city.

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The aging husband is tortured unmercifully before he reveals the hiding place of his

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valuables.

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The two thieves make good their escape.

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Your job, get them.

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Dragnet, the documented drama of an actual crime.

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For the next 30 minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will

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travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official

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police files.

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From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is the story of your police force

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in action.

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Was Saturday, October 3rd.

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Was hot in Los Angeles.

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We were working the day watch out of robbery detail.

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My partner's Ben Romero, the boss is Harry Diddy and captain of robbery.

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My name's Friday.

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It was 11.38 p.m. when I got to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital, room five.

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Treatment room.

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Joe?

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Hi, how's it going, Ben?

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We're not going to be able to talk to him any more tonight.

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Doctor said maybe late tomorrow morning.

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How's the old man making out?

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He's resting a lot better.

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Doctor gave him a sedative.

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Old fellow sure had a rough time.

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Well, how about since I've been gone?

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Did he tell you anything else?

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No, just kept repeating the same thing.

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Two guys forced their way into his house, beat his wife, tortured him, took all their

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jewelry.

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That's about it.

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Well, I put in a call to the office.

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I got a broadcast out on the information that we have.

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There's not much to go on.

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We should be able to pick up a little something more tomorrow.

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Doc said it's been a long time since he's seen anything like this, where they worked

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old man over.

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What'd they do to the fellow's hands anyway, the doctor able to tell?

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He thinks they used a hat pin on him, something like that.

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It's sharp and thin.

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At least a dozen wounds in both hands.

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He's pretty badly burned too.

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It's hard to imagine somebody that cold blooded, 71 year old man, soles of his feet, a mass

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of burns.

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Wonder his heart stood up through the beating I gave him.

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Well, has he got a weak heart?

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He's had a little trouble, yeah.

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Terrific shock going through something like this at his age.

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Well, maybe we better check back at their house, huh?

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See how the old fellow's wife is doing.

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Yeah, right.

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How's it shape up for you?

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Well, there's not an awful lot to go on yet.

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Wasn't a shot in the dark.

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I think we can count on that.

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Whoever the thieves were, they had some kind of an inside tip.

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The old man and his wife, well, they don't put up much of an appearance.

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You wouldn't be apt to figure that they had three or four thousand in jewelry put away

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at home, would you?

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Maybe his wife might have some ideas.

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He always allows his shame.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You might half way understand that they just held them up, but working them over the way

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they did.

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There was no sense to it at all.

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Trying to show off what a couple of rough bums they are, maybe that's it.

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Well, then let's do them a favor.

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Let's show them what it costs.

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Ben and I got in the car and drove back to the West Lake Park area to the home of the

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robbery victim, 71 year old Wendell McClung and his wife, Catherine McClung.

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It was a one story wooden frame building, gray shingled, a typical modest four room

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bungalow.

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The men from unit 31R who had answered the robbery call were still there standing by.

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Another pair of men from robbery detail, Powers and Gonzalez, were checking the neighborhood

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for possible leads on the suspects.

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Inside the house, Ben and I found Mrs. McClung propped up in an easy chair in the living

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room.

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She was a small chubby woman, gray haired, looked to be in her fifties.

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We assured her her husband's condition wasn't critical.

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Outside of a small bruise on her forehead and a case of nervous upset, she seemed to

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be all right.

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In recounting the story of the holdup, Mrs. McClung told us the two bandits rang the front

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doorbell and forced their way into the house at gunpoint shortly before eight o'clock that

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night.

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How about the color of their hair, ma'am?

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Their weight and height?

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No, I hardly saw a thing.

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That one look at them when they first pushed their way in.

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How was that baby?

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Blindfolded?

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Yes, they might just as well have.

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You see, when they started to hit Wendell, my husband Wendell, knock him down, I went

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after them and one of them slapped me right across my face and knocked my glasses off.

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I reached out to find them, but before I did, I guess one of those gangsters stepped on

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them.

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Thirty-five dollar glasses broke the lenses, just ruined the frames.

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Look at that.

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Of course, I can't see a thing without them.

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That's why I say it might as well have been blindfolded.

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You didn't have a chance to notice what kind of clothes they had on and what they looked

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like at all?

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Well, they weren't shabby, I know that.

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Pretty well dressed, if memory serves.

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Both of them in dark suits.

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If only they wouldn't have broken my glasses.

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How about their voices, Miss McClung?

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Anything unusual about the way they talked?

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Anything that they might have said?

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Miss McClung?

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No, I was just thinking.

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One's name was Sam, I remember that.

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The other one had sort of an accent of some kind.

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Maybe from the Midwest or maybe Texas, one of those funny people.

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Funny people?

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What do you mean?

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Well, you know, something like a cowboy or a farmer, that funny kind of talk.

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I see.

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I guess I really should be inside fixing you men a cup of tea, maybe if you'd just help

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me up.

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That's all right, ma'am, you just sit there.

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When my sister Dolly gets here, it shouldn't be too long.

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I'll have her fix something.

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There's no need to bother, ma'am.

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We'd like to have you tell us this if you can.

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Did your husband do anything at all to provoke the two men?

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I mean, did he call out for help or try to get to a phone, anything like that?

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It was the jewelry we had.

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Wendell and I, just those few pieces.

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The two men seemed to know all about it, just as if they had a list of the things.

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That's how?

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Yes.

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When they first came in, they took my engagement ring and old brooch that belonged to my mother

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I was wearing.

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Then they got Wendell in that chair over there and tried to make him tell where our other

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things were.

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Well, now is it pretty common knowledge around the neighborhood here that you and your husband

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own expensive jewelry, ma'am?

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No, I don't think so.

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What the men seemed most interested in was Wendell's ring, his diamond signet ring,

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it was a beautiful thing for a carrot.

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Yes, ma'am, we've got a description on that.

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That was when they tried to force your husband to tell them where it was hidden, is that

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right?

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I never thought anybody'd be that cruel, officer.

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Downright cruel.

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They burned his hands and his feet, kept hitting him in the face with their fists.

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It was just terrible.

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Poor Wendell.

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He finally had to tell them.

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I see.

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They went and found the things and then they came back in here and ripped out the phone,

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warned us not to move.

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And then they left.

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I just broke down and cried, officer, to see poor Wendell there the way they abused him.

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Yes, ma'am, we understand.

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You're sure he's gonna be all right?

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What did the doctor say?

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Well, he said there's no danger, ma'am.

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Mr. McClung's resting comfortably now.

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Well, that must be my sister's outing.

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You want to stay right here with Ms. McClung, Ben?

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I'll get that.

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Yeah, all right.

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Hi, Joe.

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Hi, Jess.

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You and Powers doing any good?

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I've been checking through the neighborhood, three, four blocks around.

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Not an awful lot.

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A lot of people know the McClung's.

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Few of them know about their having jewelry.

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None of them saw anything unusual going on tonight.

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The thieves used the car.

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We know that.

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Didn't anybody at all spot it?

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I'm not sure, but there's one possibility.

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Some of the neighbors said a young kid was peddling magazines down this block tonight.

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Just about the same time as the robbery.

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He might have spotted something.

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Well, that's fine.

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Where is the boy?

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Where does he live?

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I don't know.

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Nobody knows.

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A supplementary broadcast and an APB was gotten out containing what description we had on the

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two holdup men, plus descriptions of each article of jewelry taken from Mr. and Mrs.

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McClung.

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The following morning, along with Jess Gonzalez and Johnny Powers, we continued canvassing

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the immediate neighborhood of the holdup.

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The only thing we got was a fair description of the boy who had been selling magazines

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the night before in the vicinity of the McClung house and also the names of the magazines

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he was peddling.

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Monday morning, 9 a.m., we got in touch with the local distributor for the publications,

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got a list of five boys who sold for them in that general area, and started checking

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them out.

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Third on the list was a Bill Newsome, a sophomore student at a nearby parochial high school.

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He lived a half a dozen blocks from the McClungs.

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We checked at his house, but his mother told us he wasn't at home.

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I'm sure, Billy, it won't be long.

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Thank you, ma'am.

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Right in here, officer.

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Just go ahead.

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Thank you.

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Sit down, won't you?

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Thank you very much.

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It must be him now.

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Billy, in here.

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Yeah, ma.

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Come in here, Bill.

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Two police officers to see you.

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Bill, this is Sergeant Friday and Sergeant Romero, my son Bill.

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How are you?

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How are you?

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Would you excuse me?

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I'm going to have to start fixing dinner.

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You go right ahead and have your talk with Bill.

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I'll be out in the kitchen.

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All right, ma'am.

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Thank you very much.

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You speak right up now, Bill.

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Try and help the officers all you can.

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How can I help you?

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What's it all about?

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We understand you have a magazine right in the neighborhood, Bill.

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Your mother tells us you were out selling this last Saturday night.

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Yes, sir, that's right.

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Thursdays and Saturdays, they're my regular nights.

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I don't really sell, though.

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How do you mean, son?

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Well, you see, I line up all my customers ahead of time.

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I got a regular list of people who buy from me every week.

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I don't do any door-to-door selling.

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That way, it's not much good.

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I see.

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Do you have a regular customer on your list by the name of McClung Bill?

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That's M-C-C-L-U-N-G?

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Yeah, Mr. McClung, once a month, he takes a gardening magazine.

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Comes out the last week.

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He's got a couple of books that he's been reading.

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He's got a book that he's been reading.

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He's got a book that he's been reading.

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Were you over near the McClung's place Saturday night?

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Do you remember?

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Yeah, I was.

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I went right by it.

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I've got customers all along that block there.

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Say, this wouldn't be about that robbery.

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That's right, Bill.

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You heard about it?

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After church Sunday, a couple of kids who go to the same school I do, they live right

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around the McClung's.

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They heard about it.

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What time was it when you went by there Saturday night?

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You remember?

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Oh, about a couple of minutes after nine, I guess.

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Maybe a quarter after.

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When I heard about the robbery on Sunday, I thought maybe I ought to tell somebody about

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it.

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I wasn't sure about it, though.

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You know, I didn't want to be a pest.

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What do you mean, son?

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You weren't sure about what?

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This dark blue sedan I saw parked on the street there, just a couple of houses down from the

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McClung's place.

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The reason I even noticed it was because it was a new car, almost a brand new car, but

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it looked like the license plates on it were kind of old.

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What else?

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Well, I delivered some magazines to Mrs. Brubaker and I got my money for them.

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And then coming down the stairs, I saw these two men.

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I'm not sure they came out of Mr. McClung's house.

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It was dark, you know, but I thought that's where they came from.

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Anyway, they went down the street, got in the car and took off.

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Seemed to be in a hurry.

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Well, what did the two men look like, Bill?

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Do you have any idea?

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No, I didn't see them too well.

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I wasn't too close to them.

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I was about from, oh, here to across the street from them.

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How about their clothes?

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You noticed them at all?

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Yeah, they had suits on, dark suits.

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I know that.

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How would you describe their build, son?

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Medium, tall, fat, skinny?

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What would you say?

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Well, I think I'd say medium.

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Yeah, both of them medium.

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Now about that car, Bill, you said it was a dark blue sedan, new model and the license

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plates look kind of old.

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Is that right?

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Yeah, that's right.

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That's how I first noticed it parked down by the restaurant.

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How's that?

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About 715 when I started my route down on South Benson, I saw the same car parked outside

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the restaurant down there.

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Forget the name of the place now.

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It just opened about a month ago.

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I'm sure it was the same car.

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Oh yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure.

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That's why I noticed it again when I saw it up by McClung's place.

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I thought it looked kind of terrible, brand new car like that with the old license plates.

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By any chance, son, do you remember the license number on those plates?

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No, sir, I didn't notice it at all.

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I'll tell you what though.

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Yeah?

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If you see that car again, I'll be sure and get the number for you.

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Before we left the home of 16 year old Bill Newsome, we got a complete description of

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the car which he'd seen parked near the McClung's home on the night of the robbery.

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He told us it was a 1950 Hudson, four door sedan, dark blue, white sidewall tires.

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We relayed the information downtown to robbery detail.

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After we left the boy's house, we drove to the vicinity of the restaurant on South Benson

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where the Newsome boy had first spotted the Hudson sedan.

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After making the rounds of several bars and coffee counters in the area, we started checking

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at the restaurant.

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It was newly opened just as the boy had described it, full of glass, brick, and fancy modern

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stonework.

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The main bar was situated just off the lobby set apart from the main dining room.

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We interviewed the head bartender and he thought he remembered serving two customers answering

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the general description of the holdup men on the previous Saturday night.

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Not a bad looking pair, they're in a little early, around 715, 730, they seem to be alright.

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Do you remember what they looked like at all?

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No, I didn't notice them that much, officer.

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Can you give us some general idea?

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They're on the young side, I guess, not more than 28, 30.

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One of them talked like a midwesterner, I think, you know, maybe Arkansas, Texas, some

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place like that.

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Could you give us any idea what they were wearing, would you remember that?

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Well, one had suits on, dark suits, one had on a gray hat, that's about all I remember.

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The reason I can place them at all is because Saturday was a pretty slow night at the bar,

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it's a new place here, you know, it takes a little time to cultivate a trade.

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Well, did these two men stop for dinner here, do you remember that?

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No, no, they sat right here at the bar, had a couple of beers and then they left, no dinner.

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Did you wait on them, sir?

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Yes, sir, I did.

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I served them both a bottle of beer, imported Dutch beer.

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Do you serve quite a bit of that imported beer, do you?

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No, not here, no, it's mostly cocktail trade, these two fellows, the only ones I remember

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asking for.

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Oh, do you remember if the two men handled the beer bottles at all?

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They handled them?

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Well, I mean, did you pour it?

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I filled up the glasses and set the bottle down, I guess they did handle them, they emptied

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the bottle.

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I see.

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They'd almost have to, wouldn't they?

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Would you still have those two bottles on hand?

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No, let's see, they, yeah, I guess they would, they don't pick up the empties till something

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around the middle of the week.

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We'd like to take a look at them if you don't mind.

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Oh, sure thing.

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You guys just want to follow me down to the bar here, it's in the store room, just in

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back.

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All right, let's go.

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It's right back here, officer.

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Fine.

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Let's see, yeah, yeah, they're right over here.

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There you go.

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Holland Label, only ones in the whole case, the same two I served those fellows.

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Yeah, I see.

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What do you think, fingerprints?

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Maybe.

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And as soon as you get the fingerprints, you can pick them up, can't you?

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Yeah, when we find the men they belong to.

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Monday 6 p.m.

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We called Layton Fingerprints and they came out to check the evidence.

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First, they obtained a set of the bartender's fingerprints to serve as a basis for comparison.

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Then they dusted each of the empty beer bottles carefully.

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After the various sets of prints were lifted off the bottles, the men went back to the

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office to run the sets through, classify their findings, and then turn them over to R&I for

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further checking.

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While they worked on it, Ben and I ducked out and had a sandwich and a bowl of soup for

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dinner.

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7.25 p.m.

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We got back to the city hall.

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I sure am getting tired of the kind of food that guy serves, Joe.

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It seems to get worse every time I go in there.

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Yeah, it wasn't very good, was it?

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I'm willing to bet I know his formula for the soup, two gallons of hot water and one

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bouillon cube.

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Well, I've gone and done it before.

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I may still do it again.

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What's that?

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Bring my dinner from home in a paper sack.

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Pack a thermos full of hot coffee.

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It'd be a better deal than cross the street.

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I don't know about that.

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Do you remember the last time you had your wife fix you up a thermos full of coffee?

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Yeah, I almost forgot.

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Wasn't any better than the stuff across the street.

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Hi, where you two been?

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Hi, Jess.

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Getting something to eat.

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A latent Prince called just a minute ago.

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Told him I'd give you the message.

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What's that?

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Well, the Prince, they lifted off those beer bottles, checked them through the record bureau.

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Huh.

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Found two sets.

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They made both of them.

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October 5th, Saturday, 740 p.m.

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The two sets of fingerprints which had been lifted from the empty beer bottles were checked

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through R&I and identified as those belonging to two known criminals.

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The first was Henry Vincent Moss, WMA, 29 years old.

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He'd served two terms in the county jail for burglary and grand theft auto and one term

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in San Quentin for robbery.

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The second was Ernest Robert Windsor, WMA, 28 years old.

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His home was listed as Little Rock, Arkansas, where he'd twice been convicted on charges

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of first degree burglary and served time at the Arkansas State Penitentiary.

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We pulled the packages on both of the men, checked the last known addresses, but failed

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to locate either of them.

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To double check their identification, we showed mug shots of Windsor and Moss to the robbery

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and torture victims, Mr. and Mrs. McClung.

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They gave positive identification of both men.

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So did the bartender at the restaurant where they'd stopped for the beer.

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We got out a broadcast and an all points bulletin on them immediately.

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We began the routine legwork, checking with all the friends, relatives, and associates

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who were listed on the mama sheet in each suspect's package.

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As usual, it was a long monotonous haul.

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One of the persons listed as fairly close to Ernest Windsor was an aunt of his, a Mrs.

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Marie Rolfe, whom we located at her home in the Echo Park district.

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No, I hadn't seen Ernest in almost a year, Sergeant.

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What is it you want him for?

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I'd like to talk to you about it a few minutes, Mrs. Rolfe, if you don't mind.

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I don't know how I can help you.

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You can come in for a minute if you want.

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I've got to go out and do some errands pretty soon, though.

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That's all right, ma'am.

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Thank you.

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Right in here.

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Sit down if you want.

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Thank you very much.

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I've got finished taking care of my little children here, giving them nice clean cages.

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Good singers.

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They're all canaries, ma'am?

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Oh, yes.

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Oscar and Ethel, that's these two here, they're both genuine rollers.

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Their grand folks came from Germany.

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Beautiful singers.

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Wonderful company.

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Yes, ma'am.

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My others are pretty, too.

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They're only choppers, though.

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Ma'am.

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Choppers.

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They're different than rollers.

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They sing much louder.

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Maybe not as nicely, but I don't like to play favorites.

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I like all of them.

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You have birds, Sergeant?

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No, ma'am.

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You should.

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Everybody should have a canary in the house.

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Cheerful, you know.

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Wonderful company.

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Don't know what I'd do without mine.

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About your nephew, Ernest, Miss Rolfe, do you have any idea at all how we could contact

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him?

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As I say, it's been almost a year since I last heard from him.

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What would this be about, Sergeant?

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It's a routine investigation, ma'am.

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We understand that you're quite close with your nephew, that he lived with you for a

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time.

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Yes, that's right.

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He did.

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When you come right down to it, Ernie's a good boy.

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He kept bad company, that's what I always said.

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Got him in trouble two or three times.

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I suppose you know that.

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You live alone here in the house, do you, Miss Rolfe?

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Yes, ma'am.

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That's right, Sergeant.

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See, I'm a widow.

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Husband's gone a good many years now.

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You don't take in boarders or anyone like that, do you?

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Oh, no.

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Just me and my pets here.

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They're company enough.

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I wonder if you'd explain that laundry piled up in the bed there in the next room, ma'am.

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What's that?

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The men's shirts, stockings, the underwear.

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They're right there in the bed there.

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I usually try to keep things in better order than that.

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Just some laundry I do, Sergeant.

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A little odd jobs for some of the bachelor men in the neighborhood.

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I do it as a favor for them.

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You sure about that, Miss Rolfe?

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Ma'am?

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What do you want Ernest for?

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Why do you have to chase after him all the time?

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Persecute him.

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We're not persecuting him.

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Ever since he's come here from Arkansas, it's been nothing but police chasing after him.

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Can't you give Ernie a chance?

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All he wants is a chance.

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He told me so himself.

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We've checked through his record, Miss Rolfe.

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He's had all the chances in the world and nobody's persecuting him.

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Why are you chasing him again?

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Hunting him down.

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Why don't you leave him alone for a spell?

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Give him a chance to get a job, do something.

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Why are you chasing him?

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This is a robbery charge, Miss Rolfe.

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He's been positively identified.

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He and Henry Moss forced their way into an old couple's home a few weeks back.

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They tortured the old man and they beat him till he was unconscious.

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That's what we want Ernie for.

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How do you know it was Ernie?

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He could have made a mistake.

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No mistake, ma'am.

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The victims identified his picture and there wasn't a doubt in their mind.

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And where is he?

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You sure that's the truth?

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You sure it's Ernie again?

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Yes, ma'am, again.

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You can have all the proof you need.

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The last time he told me, he swore on the memory of his own mother.

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He swore he wouldn't do anything wrong again.

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I guess I just don't know Ernest.

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Where is he, ma'am?

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You want to tell us?

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It's the last time, Sergeant, I'm sorry.

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Ernie's had his last time.

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Yes, ma'am.

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He's sleeping.

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The room over the garage.

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You'll find him there.

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Ernest Windsor was apprehended and placed under arrest.

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His room was searched as well as the entire home of his aunt, Mrs. Marie Rolfe.

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We failed to find a trace of any of the jewelry stolen from Mr. and Mrs. McClung.

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After we made arrangements for a stakeout on the house, Windsor was taken downtown to

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the interrogation room where Jess Gonzalez, Ben and I questioned him for five hours.

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He refused to tell us anything.

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At a special show up, he was positively identified as one of the holdup men by the two victims.

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Windsor was booked at the main jail on suspicion of 211 P.C.

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The investigation went on.

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Every possible lead on the other suspect, Henry Moss, was checked out.

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We got nowhere.

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It was obvious that either Moss was in possession of all the jewelry stolen from the McClung's

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or it had been hidden away someplace known only to Windsor and Moss.

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From time to time, we had Windsor taken from his jail cell for questioning.

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It wasn't hard to tell he was bothered with the possibility that perhaps Moss had run

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off with the entire loot and was enjoying himself while Windsor spent his time in jail.

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We worked hard on that particular angle while we questioned him, but Windsor still refused

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to break to give us any kind of a lead on Moss.

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Sure working out into a dull routine, a full month, we got exactly what we started with.

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Yeah, if we could only get Windsor to break it, it sure would do a lot to wrap this thing

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up, wouldn't it?

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I don't know what he figured he was going to gain by keeping quiet.

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Yeah.

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Gonzalez and Johnny Power said they were checking out a tip from some informant this morning.

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Supposed to know where Henry Moss is.

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I wonder if they found any luck.

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They ought to be back by now.

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Yeah.

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Go ahead.

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Hey, Jess.

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Oh, hi.

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How about it?

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Did you do any good this morning?

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Oh, not a bit.

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Informant didn't even show up.

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Johnny's going to meet him this afternoon.

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It doesn't look to be very much.

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How about you fellas?

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Same, Jess.

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We're going as slow as you are.

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I'll get it.

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Robbery, Friday.

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Yeah, George.

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Uh-huh.

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Third and Main.

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You sure, huh?

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Right.

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Yeah, right away.

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Well, maybe we got a break.

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What is it?

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Henry Moss.

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He tried to hock a ring at a pawn shop, Third and Main, about 20 minutes ago.

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He make it?

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Well, the pawnbroker stalled him.

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He didn't know for sure that the guy was hot.

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Well, how's it stand?

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Henry Moss said he'd come back to close the deal.

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When?

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Half an hour.

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11.55 a.m.

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A special detail of men, including Gonzalez and Powers, Ben and myself, were sent to cover

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the pawn shop near Third and Main.

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Gonzalez and Powers staked out in stores adjoining the place.

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Ben and I were stationed inside the pawn shop.

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Another team of men covered the rear exit.

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We waited.

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The suspect, Henry Moss, failed to show at the appointed time.

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We kept waiting.

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1 p.m., 1.30.

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No sign of him.

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At 1.45 p.m., a young-looking, dark-haired man in a neat gray suit entered the shop and

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approached the manager at the rear counter.

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There wasn't any mistaking him, Henry Moss.

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He surrendered himself without even protesting.

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We took him to the city hall, to the interrogation room where we started to question him.

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Meantime, Gonzalez and Powers located the apartment where the suspect had been staying.

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His rooms and personal belongings were searched and every piece of the missing jewelry recovered.

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Surprisingly enough, in contrast to his partner, Ernie Windsor, Moss was cooperative, even

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obliging.

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We had a stenographer take his full statement.

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Then we got ready to move him over to the main jail for booking.

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Just a couple of questions before we leave, Moss.

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Sure, Sergeant, go ahead.

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We've had you in here before.

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How come all the cooperation this time?

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Why not?

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I had it figured before time.

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If you got me, you'd have everything you need on me.

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Wouldn't do much good putting in a beef, would it?

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Whose idea was it to start with, Moss, the holdup deal?

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Yours or was it Windsor's?

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Both of us, I guess.

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I didn't want to get rough with the old man, I mean the way Ernie did.

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That part I didn't like.

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All I wanted was a loot.

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Ernie just lost his head.

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Too bad.

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All right, you ready to go?

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Anytime, Sergeant.

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Hey, I wonder if I could ask a favor.

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What's that?

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Well, it's gonna get a little tough in there in that jail.

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I wonder if we couldn't stop for a good steak and some french fries first, huh?

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Maybe some good restaurant around here?

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No, it won't work, Moss.

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You know I wouldn't try anything.

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You put your order in a long time ago, Mr.

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What do you mean?

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When you worked over that old couple.

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Oh, yeah?

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That's when you ordered jail food.

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The story you have just heard was true.

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The names were changed to protect the innocent.

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On March 2nd, trial was held in Superior Court, Department 88, City and County of Los Angeles,

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State of California.

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In a moment, the results of that trial.

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Ernest Windsor and Henry Moss were tried and convicted on one count of first degree robbery

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and one count of assault with intent to do great bodily harm.

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Both men are now serving their terms in the state penitentiary.

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First degree robbery is punishable by imprisonment for no less than one, nor more, than ten years.

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You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from official files.

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Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police, W.H. Parker, Los Angeles Police

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Department.

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Your seemingly innocent name is wrong now.

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