1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,160 The story you are about to hear is true. 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,440 The names have been changed to protect the innocent. 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:25,040 You're a detective sergeant. 4 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,360 You're assigned to robbery detail. 5 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,340 Two armed bandits invade the home of an elderly couple in your city. 6 00:00:31,340 --> 00:00:35,040 The aging husband is tortured unmercifully before he reveals the hiding place of his 7 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,040 valuables. 8 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,040 The two thieves make good their escape. 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:51,400 Your job, get them. 10 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,160 Dragnet, the documented drama of an actual crime. 11 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,520 For the next 30 minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will 12 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,040 travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official 13 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,600 police files. 14 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:10,760 From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is the story of your police force 15 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:16,580 in action. 16 00:01:16,580 --> 00:01:18,160 Was Saturday, October 3rd. 17 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,160 Was hot in Los Angeles. 18 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,240 We were working the day watch out of robbery detail. 19 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,640 My partner's Ben Romero, the boss is Harry Diddy and captain of robbery. 20 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,640 My name's Friday. 21 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,780 It was 11.38 p.m. when I got to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital, room five. 22 00:01:31,780 --> 00:01:32,780 Treatment room. 23 00:01:32,780 --> 00:01:33,780 Joe? 24 00:01:33,780 --> 00:01:35,120 Hi, how's it going, Ben? 25 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,320 We're not going to be able to talk to him any more tonight. 26 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:39,240 Doctor said maybe late tomorrow morning. 27 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,240 How's the old man making out? 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,400 He's resting a lot better. 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:42,400 Doctor gave him a sedative. 30 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,400 Old fellow sure had a rough time. 31 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,040 Well, how about since I've been gone? 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,040 Did he tell you anything else? 33 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,920 No, just kept repeating the same thing. 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,680 Two guys forced their way into his house, beat his wife, tortured him, took all their 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:53,680 jewelry. 36 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,680 That's about it. 37 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,680 Well, I put in a call to the office. 38 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,360 I got a broadcast out on the information that we have. 39 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,360 There's not much to go on. 40 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,200 We should be able to pick up a little something more tomorrow. 41 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,240 Doc said it's been a long time since he's seen anything like this, where they worked 42 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,240 old man over. 43 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,080 What'd they do to the fellow's hands anyway, the doctor able to tell? 44 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,480 He thinks they used a hat pin on him, something like that. 45 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,480 It's sharp and thin. 46 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,960 At least a dozen wounds in both hands. 47 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,800 He's pretty badly burned too. 48 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:21,320 It's hard to imagine somebody that cold blooded, 71 year old man, soles of his feet, a mass 49 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,320 of burns. 50 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,240 Wonder his heart stood up through the beating I gave him. 51 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,420 Well, has he got a weak heart? 52 00:02:25,420 --> 00:02:27,160 He's had a little trouble, yeah. 53 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,760 Terrific shock going through something like this at his age. 54 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,000 Well, maybe we better check back at their house, huh? 55 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,840 See how the old fellow's wife is doing. 56 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:34,840 Yeah, right. 57 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,920 How's it shape up for you? 58 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:40,200 Well, there's not an awful lot to go on yet. 59 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,760 Wasn't a shot in the dark. 60 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:42,760 I think we can count on that. 61 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,680 Whoever the thieves were, they had some kind of an inside tip. 62 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,880 The old man and his wife, well, they don't put up much of an appearance. 63 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,840 You wouldn't be apt to figure that they had three or four thousand in jewelry put away 64 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:52,840 at home, would you? 65 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,320 Maybe his wife might have some ideas. 66 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,040 He always allows his shame. 67 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,040 Yeah. 68 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,040 Yeah. 69 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,320 You might half way understand that they just held them up, but working them over the way 70 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,320 they did. 71 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,320 There was no sense to it at all. 72 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,400 Trying to show off what a couple of rough bums they are, maybe that's it. 73 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,400 Well, then let's do them a favor. 74 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,480 Let's show them what it costs. 75 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,800 Ben and I got in the car and drove back to the West Lake Park area to the home of the 76 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,640 robbery victim, 71 year old Wendell McClung and his wife, Catherine McClung. 77 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:23,240 It was a one story wooden frame building, gray shingled, a typical modest four room 78 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,240 bungalow. 79 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,880 The men from unit 31R who had answered the robbery call were still there standing by. 80 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,480 Another pair of men from robbery detail, Powers and Gonzalez, were checking the neighborhood 81 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,960 for possible leads on the suspects. 82 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,760 Inside the house, Ben and I found Mrs. McClung propped up in an easy chair in the living 83 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:40,760 room. 84 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,560 She was a small chubby woman, gray haired, looked to be in her fifties. 85 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,040 We assured her her husband's condition wasn't critical. 86 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,880 Outside of a small bruise on her forehead and a case of nervous upset, she seemed to 87 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,160 be all right. 88 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,920 In recounting the story of the holdup, Mrs. McClung told us the two bandits rang the front 89 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,120 doorbell and forced their way into the house at gunpoint shortly before eight o'clock that 90 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,120 night. 91 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,120 How about the color of their hair, ma'am? 92 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,120 Their weight and height? 93 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,120 No, I hardly saw a thing. 94 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,120 That one look at them when they first pushed their way in. 95 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,120 How was that baby? 96 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,120 Blindfolded? 97 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,080 Yes, they might just as well have. 98 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:20,120 You see, when they started to hit Wendell, my husband Wendell, knock him down, I went 99 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,480 after them and one of them slapped me right across my face and knocked my glasses off. 100 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,880 I reached out to find them, but before I did, I guess one of those gangsters stepped on 101 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:29,880 them. 102 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,360 Thirty-five dollar glasses broke the lenses, just ruined the frames. 103 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:34,360 Look at that. 104 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,760 Of course, I can't see a thing without them. 105 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,880 That's why I say it might as well have been blindfolded. 106 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,000 You didn't have a chance to notice what kind of clothes they had on and what they looked 107 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,000 like at all? 108 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,600 Well, they weren't shabby, I know that. 109 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,280 Pretty well dressed, if memory serves. 110 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:50,760 Both of them in dark suits. 111 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,920 If only they wouldn't have broken my glasses. 112 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,600 How about their voices, Miss McClung? 113 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,160 Anything unusual about the way they talked? 114 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,760 Anything that they might have said? 115 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,760 Miss McClung? 116 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,560 No, I was just thinking. 117 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,680 One's name was Sam, I remember that. 118 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,280 The other one had sort of an accent of some kind. 119 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:12,780 Maybe from the Midwest or maybe Texas, one of those funny people. 120 00:05:12,780 --> 00:05:13,780 Funny people? 121 00:05:13,780 --> 00:05:14,780 What do you mean? 122 00:05:14,780 --> 00:05:20,160 Well, you know, something like a cowboy or a farmer, that funny kind of talk. 123 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,160 I see. 124 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:26,640 I guess I really should be inside fixing you men a cup of tea, maybe if you'd just help 125 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:27,640 me up. 126 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,080 That's all right, ma'am, you just sit there. 127 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,560 When my sister Dolly gets here, it shouldn't be too long. 128 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,560 I'll have her fix something. 129 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,280 There's no need to bother, ma'am. 130 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:35,800 We'd like to have you tell us this if you can. 131 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,760 Did your husband do anything at all to provoke the two men? 132 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,640 I mean, did he call out for help or try to get to a phone, anything like that? 133 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,760 It was the jewelry we had. 134 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,320 Wendell and I, just those few pieces. 135 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,720 The two men seemed to know all about it, just as if they had a list of the things. 136 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:49,720 That's how? 137 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:50,720 Yes. 138 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,800 When they first came in, they took my engagement ring and old brooch that belonged to my mother 139 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,440 I was wearing. 140 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,760 Then they got Wendell in that chair over there and tried to make him tell where our other 141 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:01,760 things were. 142 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,480 Well, now is it pretty common knowledge around the neighborhood here that you and your husband 143 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,040 own expensive jewelry, ma'am? 144 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,360 No, I don't think so. 145 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,800 What the men seemed most interested in was Wendell's ring, his diamond signet ring, 146 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,640 it was a beautiful thing for a carrot. 147 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,880 Yes, ma'am, we've got a description on that. 148 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,520 That was when they tried to force your husband to tell them where it was hidden, is that 149 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:21,520 right? 150 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,240 I never thought anybody'd be that cruel, officer. 151 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,320 Downright cruel. 152 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:31,120 They burned his hands and his feet, kept hitting him in the face with their fists. 153 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,440 It was just terrible. 154 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,440 Poor Wendell. 155 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,000 He finally had to tell them. 156 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,120 I see. 157 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,640 They went and found the things and then they came back in here and ripped out the phone, 158 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:43,960 warned us not to move. 159 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,960 And then they left. 160 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:52,240 I just broke down and cried, officer, to see poor Wendell there the way they abused him. 161 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,800 Yes, ma'am, we understand. 162 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,440 You're sure he's gonna be all right? 163 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,000 What did the doctor say? 164 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,400 Well, he said there's no danger, ma'am. 165 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,040 Mr. McClung's resting comfortably now. 166 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,520 Well, that must be my sister's outing. 167 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,120 You want to stay right here with Ms. McClung, Ben? 168 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,120 I'll get that. 169 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,120 Yeah, all right. 170 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,120 Hi, Joe. 171 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,120 Hi, Jess. 172 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,440 You and Powers doing any good? 173 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,360 I've been checking through the neighborhood, three, four blocks around. 174 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,360 Not an awful lot. 175 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,840 A lot of people know the McClung's. 176 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,560 Few of them know about their having jewelry. 177 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,760 None of them saw anything unusual going on tonight. 178 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:20,760 The thieves used the car. 179 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:21,760 We know that. 180 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:22,760 Didn't anybody at all spot it? 181 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,000 I'm not sure, but there's one possibility. 182 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,520 Some of the neighbors said a young kid was peddling magazines down this block tonight. 183 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,240 Just about the same time as the robbery. 184 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:31,240 He might have spotted something. 185 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,240 Well, that's fine. 186 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,240 Where is the boy? 187 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,240 Where does he live? 188 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,240 I don't know. 189 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,240 Nobody knows. 190 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:42,440 A supplementary broadcast and an APB was gotten out containing what description we had on the 191 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:47,440 two holdup men, plus descriptions of each article of jewelry taken from Mr. and Mrs. 192 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:48,560 McClung. 193 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:53,160 The following morning, along with Jess Gonzalez and Johnny Powers, we continued canvassing 194 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,580 the immediate neighborhood of the holdup. 195 00:07:55,580 --> 00:07:59,240 The only thing we got was a fair description of the boy who had been selling magazines 196 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,800 the night before in the vicinity of the McClung house and also the names of the magazines 197 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,480 he was peddling. 198 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,360 Monday morning, 9 a.m., we got in touch with the local distributor for the publications, 199 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,760 got a list of five boys who sold for them in that general area, and started checking 200 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:14,760 them out. 201 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:20,040 Third on the list was a Bill Newsome, a sophomore student at a nearby parochial high school. 202 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,960 He lived a half a dozen blocks from the McClungs. 203 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,800 We checked at his house, but his mother told us he wasn't at home. 204 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,360 I'm sure, Billy, it won't be long. 205 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,360 Thank you, ma'am. 206 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,360 Right in here, officer. 207 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,360 Just go ahead. 208 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:31,360 Thank you. 209 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,880 Sit down, won't you? 210 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:35,880 Thank you very much. 211 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,880 It must be him now. 212 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:38,880 Billy, in here. 213 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:39,880 Yeah, ma. 214 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:40,880 Come in here, Bill. 215 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:41,880 Two police officers to see you. 216 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,520 Bill, this is Sergeant Friday and Sergeant Romero, my son Bill. 217 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:45,520 How are you? 218 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:46,520 How are you? 219 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:47,520 Would you excuse me? 220 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:48,520 I'm going to have to start fixing dinner. 221 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,520 You go right ahead and have your talk with Bill. 222 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:50,520 I'll be out in the kitchen. 223 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:51,520 All right, ma'am. 224 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:52,520 Thank you very much. 225 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,520 You speak right up now, Bill. 226 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,520 Try and help the officers all you can. 227 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,520 How can I help you? 228 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:56,520 What's it all about? 229 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:57,520 We understand you have a magazine right in the neighborhood, Bill. 230 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,640 Your mother tells us you were out selling this last Saturday night. 231 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:02,640 Yes, sir, that's right. 232 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:03,640 Thursdays and Saturdays, they're my regular nights. 233 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:04,640 I don't really sell, though. 234 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:05,640 How do you mean, son? 235 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:06,640 Well, you see, I line up all my customers ahead of time. 236 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:07,640 I got a regular list of people who buy from me every week. 237 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:08,640 I don't do any door-to-door selling. 238 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:09,640 That way, it's not much good. 239 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:10,640 I see. 240 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:11,640 Do you have a regular customer on your list by the name of McClung Bill? 241 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:12,640 That's M-C-C-L-U-N-G? 242 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:13,640 Yeah, Mr. McClung, once a month, he takes a gardening magazine. 243 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:14,640 Comes out the last week. 244 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,640 He's got a couple of books that he's been reading. 245 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,640 He's got a book that he's been reading. 246 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:28,640 He's got a book that he's been reading. 247 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,640 Were you over near the McClung's place Saturday night? 248 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:31,640 Do you remember? 249 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:32,640 Yeah, I was. 250 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:33,640 I went right by it. 251 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,640 I've got customers all along that block there. 252 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,640 Say, this wouldn't be about that robbery. 253 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:38,640 That's right, Bill. 254 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:39,640 You heard about it? 255 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,640 After church Sunday, a couple of kids who go to the same school I do, they live right 256 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:44,920 around the McClung's. 257 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:45,920 They heard about it. 258 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,920 What time was it when you went by there Saturday night? 259 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:48,920 You remember? 260 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,200 Oh, about a couple of minutes after nine, I guess. 261 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,840 Maybe a quarter after. 262 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,200 When I heard about the robbery on Sunday, I thought maybe I ought to tell somebody about 263 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,200 it. 264 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,200 I wasn't sure about it, though. 265 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,200 You know, I didn't want to be a pest. 266 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,200 What do you mean, son? 267 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,200 You weren't sure about what? 268 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,800 This dark blue sedan I saw parked on the street there, just a couple of houses down from the 269 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:07,800 McClung's place. 270 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,360 The reason I even noticed it was because it was a new car, almost a brand new car, but 271 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,200 it looked like the license plates on it were kind of old. 272 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,200 What else? 273 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,960 Well, I delivered some magazines to Mrs. Brubaker and I got my money for them. 274 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,800 And then coming down the stairs, I saw these two men. 275 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,840 I'm not sure they came out of Mr. McClung's house. 276 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,960 It was dark, you know, but I thought that's where they came from. 277 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,160 Anyway, they went down the street, got in the car and took off. 278 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,160 Seemed to be in a hurry. 279 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,960 Well, what did the two men look like, Bill? 280 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:35,960 Do you have any idea? 281 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,960 No, I didn't see them too well. 282 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,160 I wasn't too close to them. 283 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,200 I was about from, oh, here to across the street from them. 284 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,200 How about their clothes? 285 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,200 You noticed them at all? 286 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,120 Yeah, they had suits on, dark suits. 287 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,120 I know that. 288 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,520 How would you describe their build, son? 289 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,920 Medium, tall, fat, skinny? 290 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:52,920 What would you say? 291 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,640 Well, I think I'd say medium. 292 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,560 Yeah, both of them medium. 293 00:10:56,560 --> 00:11:00,360 Now about that car, Bill, you said it was a dark blue sedan, new model and the license 294 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,360 plates look kind of old. 295 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,360 Is that right? 296 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,360 Yeah, that's right. 297 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,160 That's how I first noticed it parked down by the restaurant. 298 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,560 How's that? 299 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:13,120 About 715 when I started my route down on South Benson, I saw the same car parked outside 300 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,320 the restaurant down there. 301 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:16,320 Forget the name of the place now. 302 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:17,520 It just opened about a month ago. 303 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,800 I'm sure it was the same car. 304 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,920 Oh yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure. 305 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,560 That's why I noticed it again when I saw it up by McClung's place. 306 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:27,880 I thought it looked kind of terrible, brand new car like that with the old license plates. 307 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,000 By any chance, son, do you remember the license number on those plates? 308 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,320 No, sir, I didn't notice it at all. 309 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:35,320 I'll tell you what though. 310 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:36,320 Yeah? 311 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:43,600 If you see that car again, I'll be sure and get the number for you. 312 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,320 Before we left the home of 16 year old Bill Newsome, we got a complete description of 313 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,280 the car which he'd seen parked near the McClung's home on the night of the robbery. 314 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:57,080 He told us it was a 1950 Hudson, four door sedan, dark blue, white sidewall tires. 315 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,640 We relayed the information downtown to robbery detail. 316 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,680 After we left the boy's house, we drove to the vicinity of the restaurant on South Benson 317 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:08,120 where the Newsome boy had first spotted the Hudson sedan. 318 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,040 After making the rounds of several bars and coffee counters in the area, we started checking 319 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,520 at the restaurant. 320 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,760 It was newly opened just as the boy had described it, full of glass, brick, and fancy modern 321 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:18,760 stonework. 322 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,960 The main bar was situated just off the lobby set apart from the main dining room. 323 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,120 We interviewed the head bartender and he thought he remembered serving two customers answering 324 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,440 the general description of the holdup men on the previous Saturday night. 325 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:36,840 Not a bad looking pair, they're in a little early, around 715, 730, they seem to be alright. 326 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,800 Do you remember what they looked like at all? 327 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,440 No, I didn't notice them that much, officer. 328 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,240 Can you give us some general idea? 329 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,600 They're on the young side, I guess, not more than 28, 30. 330 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,600 One of them talked like a midwesterner, I think, you know, maybe Arkansas, Texas, some 331 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:51,600 place like that. 332 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,400 Could you give us any idea what they were wearing, would you remember that? 333 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:58,200 Well, one had suits on, dark suits, one had on a gray hat, that's about all I remember. 334 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,760 The reason I can place them at all is because Saturday was a pretty slow night at the bar, 335 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,800 it's a new place here, you know, it takes a little time to cultivate a trade. 336 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,200 Well, did these two men stop for dinner here, do you remember that? 337 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,960 No, no, they sat right here at the bar, had a couple of beers and then they left, no dinner. 338 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:11,960 Did you wait on them, sir? 339 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:12,960 Yes, sir, I did. 340 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,000 I served them both a bottle of beer, imported Dutch beer. 341 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,200 Do you serve quite a bit of that imported beer, do you? 342 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,720 No, not here, no, it's mostly cocktail trade, these two fellows, the only ones I remember 343 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:23,720 asking for. 344 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,360 Oh, do you remember if the two men handled the beer bottles at all? 345 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,360 They handled them? 346 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,680 Well, I mean, did you pour it? 347 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:33,560 I filled up the glasses and set the bottle down, I guess they did handle them, they emptied 348 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:34,560 the bottle. 349 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:35,560 I see. 350 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:36,560 They'd almost have to, wouldn't they? 351 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:38,360 Would you still have those two bottles on hand? 352 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:43,080 No, let's see, they, yeah, I guess they would, they don't pick up the empties till something 353 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,080 around the middle of the week. 354 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,360 We'd like to take a look at them if you don't mind. 355 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:46,360 Oh, sure thing. 356 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,760 You guys just want to follow me down to the bar here, it's in the store room, just in 357 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:49,760 back. 358 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:50,760 All right, let's go. 359 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,760 It's right back here, officer. 360 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:54,760 Fine. 361 00:13:54,760 --> 00:14:00,560 Let's see, yeah, yeah, they're right over here. 362 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:02,640 There you go. 363 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,920 Holland Label, only ones in the whole case, the same two I served those fellows. 364 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:06,920 Yeah, I see. 365 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:07,920 What do you think, fingerprints? 366 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:08,920 Maybe. 367 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,280 And as soon as you get the fingerprints, you can pick them up, can't you? 368 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:16,160 Yeah, when we find the men they belong to. 369 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,800 Monday 6 p.m. 370 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,640 We called Layton Fingerprints and they came out to check the evidence. 371 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:26,040 First, they obtained a set of the bartender's fingerprints to serve as a basis for comparison. 372 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,200 Then they dusted each of the empty beer bottles carefully. 373 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,400 After the various sets of prints were lifted off the bottles, the men went back to the 374 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:37,280 office to run the sets through, classify their findings, and then turn them over to R&I for 375 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,120 further checking. 376 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,560 While they worked on it, Ben and I ducked out and had a sandwich and a bowl of soup for 377 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:43,560 dinner. 378 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,800 7.25 p.m. 379 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,840 We got back to the city hall. 380 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:52,000 I sure am getting tired of the kind of food that guy serves, Joe. 381 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,080 It seems to get worse every time I go in there. 382 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,360 Yeah, it wasn't very good, was it? 383 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,120 I'm willing to bet I know his formula for the soup, two gallons of hot water and one 384 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,120 bouillon cube. 385 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,400 Well, I've gone and done it before. 386 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:03,400 I may still do it again. 387 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:04,400 What's that? 388 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,040 Bring my dinner from home in a paper sack. 389 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,720 Pack a thermos full of hot coffee. 390 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,160 It'd be a better deal than cross the street. 391 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,160 I don't know about that. 392 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,920 Do you remember the last time you had your wife fix you up a thermos full of coffee? 393 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,240 Yeah, I almost forgot. 394 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,960 Wasn't any better than the stuff across the street. 395 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,160 Hi, where you two been? 396 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,160 Hi, Jess. 397 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,160 Getting something to eat. 398 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,600 A latent Prince called just a minute ago. 399 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,240 Told him I'd give you the message. 400 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,240 What's that? 401 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,160 Well, the Prince, they lifted off those beer bottles, checked them through the record bureau. 402 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:29,160 Huh. 403 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,160 Found two sets. 404 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,160 They made both of them. 405 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:53,720 October 5th, Saturday, 740 p.m. 406 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,040 The two sets of fingerprints which had been lifted from the empty beer bottles were checked 407 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,440 through R&I and identified as those belonging to two known criminals. 408 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:06,320 The first was Henry Vincent Moss, WMA, 29 years old. 409 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:11,120 He'd served two terms in the county jail for burglary and grand theft auto and one term 410 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,400 in San Quentin for robbery. 411 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:18,000 The second was Ernest Robert Windsor, WMA, 28 years old. 412 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,080 His home was listed as Little Rock, Arkansas, where he'd twice been convicted on charges 413 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:27,000 of first degree burglary and served time at the Arkansas State Penitentiary. 414 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,720 We pulled the packages on both of the men, checked the last known addresses, but failed 415 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,120 to locate either of them. 416 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,200 To double check their identification, we showed mug shots of Windsor and Moss to the robbery 417 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,160 and torture victims, Mr. and Mrs. McClung. 418 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,860 They gave positive identification of both men. 419 00:16:42,860 --> 00:16:46,160 So did the bartender at the restaurant where they'd stopped for the beer. 420 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,080 We got out a broadcast and an all points bulletin on them immediately. 421 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,120 We began the routine legwork, checking with all the friends, relatives, and associates 422 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,160 who were listed on the mama sheet in each suspect's package. 423 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,320 As usual, it was a long monotonous haul. 424 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,400 One of the persons listed as fairly close to Ernest Windsor was an aunt of his, a Mrs. 425 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,200 Marie Rolfe, whom we located at her home in the Echo Park district. 426 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,600 No, I hadn't seen Ernest in almost a year, Sergeant. 427 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:12,600 What is it you want him for? 428 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,160 I'd like to talk to you about it a few minutes, Mrs. Rolfe, if you don't mind. 429 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,640 I don't know how I can help you. 430 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,400 You can come in for a minute if you want. 431 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,440 I've got to go out and do some errands pretty soon, though. 432 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:21,440 That's all right, ma'am. 433 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,440 Thank you. 434 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:23,440 Right in here. 435 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:24,440 Sit down if you want. 436 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:25,440 Thank you very much. 437 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,640 I've got finished taking care of my little children here, giving them nice clean cages. 438 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:30,640 Good singers. 439 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:31,640 They're all canaries, ma'am? 440 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:32,640 Oh, yes. 441 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,520 Oscar and Ethel, that's these two here, they're both genuine rollers. 442 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,240 Their grand folks came from Germany. 443 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,240 Beautiful singers. 444 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,240 Wonderful company. 445 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:40,240 Yes, ma'am. 446 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,240 My others are pretty, too. 447 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,240 They're only choppers, though. 448 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,240 Ma'am. 449 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,240 Choppers. 450 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,240 They're different than rollers. 451 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,240 They sing much louder. 452 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,520 Maybe not as nicely, but I don't like to play favorites. 453 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,960 I like all of them. 454 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:49,960 You have birds, Sergeant? 455 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:50,960 No, ma'am. 456 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:51,960 You should. 457 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,600 Everybody should have a canary in the house. 458 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,600 Cheerful, you know. 459 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:55,600 Wonderful company. 460 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,760 Don't know what I'd do without mine. 461 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,360 About your nephew, Ernest, Miss Rolfe, do you have any idea at all how we could contact 462 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:02,360 him? 463 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:05,080 As I say, it's been almost a year since I last heard from him. 464 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,080 What would this be about, Sergeant? 465 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,920 It's a routine investigation, ma'am. 466 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,080 We understand that you're quite close with your nephew, that he lived with you for a 467 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,080 time. 468 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,080 Yes, that's right. 469 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,080 He did. 470 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,080 When you come right down to it, Ernie's a good boy. 471 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,080 He kept bad company, that's what I always said. 472 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,080 Got him in trouble two or three times. 473 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,080 I suppose you know that. 474 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,080 You live alone here in the house, do you, Miss Rolfe? 475 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,080 Yes, ma'am. 476 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,080 That's right, Sergeant. 477 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,080 See, I'm a widow. 478 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,120 Husband's gone a good many years now. 479 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:29,320 You don't take in boarders or anyone like that, do you? 480 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,320 Oh, no. 481 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:31,320 Just me and my pets here. 482 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,320 They're company enough. 483 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,920 I wonder if you'd explain that laundry piled up in the bed there in the next room, ma'am. 484 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:37,920 What's that? 485 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,320 The men's shirts, stockings, the underwear. 486 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,800 They're right there in the bed there. 487 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,640 I usually try to keep things in better order than that. 488 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:44,640 Just some laundry I do, Sergeant. 489 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,720 A little odd jobs for some of the bachelor men in the neighborhood. 490 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,400 I do it as a favor for them. 491 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,520 You sure about that, Miss Rolfe? 492 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,520 Ma'am? 493 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,120 What do you want Ernest for? 494 00:18:55,120 --> 00:18:57,360 Why do you have to chase after him all the time? 495 00:18:57,360 --> 00:18:58,360 Persecute him. 496 00:18:58,360 --> 00:18:59,360 We're not persecuting him. 497 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:02,280 Ever since he's come here from Arkansas, it's been nothing but police chasing after him. 498 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,600 Can't you give Ernie a chance? 499 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,040 All he wants is a chance. 500 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,040 He told me so himself. 501 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,800 We've checked through his record, Miss Rolfe. 502 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,440 He's had all the chances in the world and nobody's persecuting him. 503 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,800 Why are you chasing him again? 504 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:12,800 Hunting him down. 505 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,520 Why don't you leave him alone for a spell? 506 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,440 Give him a chance to get a job, do something. 507 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,440 Why are you chasing him? 508 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,000 This is a robbery charge, Miss Rolfe. 509 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,360 He's been positively identified. 510 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:24,800 He and Henry Moss forced their way into an old couple's home a few weeks back. 511 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,320 They tortured the old man and they beat him till he was unconscious. 512 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,320 That's what we want Ernie for. 513 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,720 How do you know it was Ernie? 514 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,200 He could have made a mistake. 515 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,200 No mistake, ma'am. 516 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,040 The victims identified his picture and there wasn't a doubt in their mind. 517 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,040 And where is he? 518 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,040 You sure that's the truth? 519 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,040 You sure it's Ernie again? 520 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,040 Yes, ma'am, again. 521 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,040 You can have all the proof you need. 522 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:46,320 The last time he told me, he swore on the memory of his own mother. 523 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,320 He swore he wouldn't do anything wrong again. 524 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,080 I guess I just don't know Ernest. 525 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,080 Where is he, ma'am? 526 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,080 You want to tell us? 527 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,080 It's the last time, Sergeant, I'm sorry. 528 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,520 Ernie's had his last time. 529 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,520 Yes, ma'am. 530 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:58,520 He's sleeping. 531 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,240 The room over the garage. 532 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:05,400 You'll find him there. 533 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,760 Ernest Windsor was apprehended and placed under arrest. 534 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,200 His room was searched as well as the entire home of his aunt, Mrs. Marie Rolfe. 535 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,440 We failed to find a trace of any of the jewelry stolen from Mr. and Mrs. McClung. 536 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,960 After we made arrangements for a stakeout on the house, Windsor was taken downtown to 537 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,840 the interrogation room where Jess Gonzalez, Ben and I questioned him for five hours. 538 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,440 He refused to tell us anything. 539 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:33,240 At a special show up, he was positively identified as one of the holdup men by the two victims. 540 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,120 Windsor was booked at the main jail on suspicion of 211 P.C. 541 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:39,240 The investigation went on. 542 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,920 Every possible lead on the other suspect, Henry Moss, was checked out. 543 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:43,920 We got nowhere. 544 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:48,040 It was obvious that either Moss was in possession of all the jewelry stolen from the McClung's 545 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,680 or it had been hidden away someplace known only to Windsor and Moss. 546 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,880 From time to time, we had Windsor taken from his jail cell for questioning. 547 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,600 It wasn't hard to tell he was bothered with the possibility that perhaps Moss had run 548 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:05,360 off with the entire loot and was enjoying himself while Windsor spent his time in jail. 549 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:09,080 We worked hard on that particular angle while we questioned him, but Windsor still refused 550 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:15,760 to break to give us any kind of a lead on Moss. 551 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,920 Sure working out into a dull routine, a full month, we got exactly what we started with. 552 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,120 Yeah, if we could only get Windsor to break it, it sure would do a lot to wrap this thing 553 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:24,120 up, wouldn't it? 554 00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:26,160 I don't know what he figured he was going to gain by keeping quiet. 555 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,160 Yeah. 556 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,480 Gonzalez and Johnny Power said they were checking out a tip from some informant this morning. 557 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,040 Supposed to know where Henry Moss is. 558 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,280 I wonder if they found any luck. 559 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,280 They ought to be back by now. 560 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,280 Yeah. 561 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,280 Go ahead. 562 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:37,280 Hey, Jess. 563 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,280 Oh, hi. 564 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,280 How about it? 565 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,280 Did you do any good this morning? 566 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,280 Oh, not a bit. 567 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,840 Informant didn't even show up. 568 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,840 Johnny's going to meet him this afternoon. 569 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,400 It doesn't look to be very much. 570 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,400 How about you fellas? 571 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,400 Same, Jess. 572 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,400 We're going as slow as you are. 573 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,400 I'll get it. 574 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,400 Robbery, Friday. 575 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,400 Yeah, George. 576 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,400 Uh-huh. 577 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,400 Third and Main. 578 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,400 You sure, huh? 579 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,400 Right. 580 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,400 Yeah, right away. 581 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,400 Well, maybe we got a break. 582 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:00,400 What is it? 583 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,400 Henry Moss. 584 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,840 He tried to hock a ring at a pawn shop, Third and Main, about 20 minutes ago. 585 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:04,840 He make it? 586 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:05,840 Well, the pawnbroker stalled him. 587 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,040 He didn't know for sure that the guy was hot. 588 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,040 Well, how's it stand? 589 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,760 Henry Moss said he'd come back to close the deal. 590 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,760 When? 591 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,760 Half an hour. 592 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,760 11.55 a.m. 593 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,800 A special detail of men, including Gonzalez and Powers, Ben and myself, were sent to cover 594 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,000 the pawn shop near Third and Main. 595 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,120 Gonzalez and Powers staked out in stores adjoining the place. 596 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:27,960 Ben and I were stationed inside the pawn shop. 597 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,280 Another team of men covered the rear exit. 598 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,480 We waited. 599 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,560 The suspect, Henry Moss, failed to show at the appointed time. 600 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,560 We kept waiting. 601 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,400 1 p.m., 1.30. 602 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:38,400 No sign of him. 603 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:43,180 At 1.45 p.m., a young-looking, dark-haired man in a neat gray suit entered the shop and 604 00:22:43,180 --> 00:22:45,080 approached the manager at the rear counter. 605 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,020 There wasn't any mistaking him, Henry Moss. 606 00:22:48,020 --> 00:22:50,480 He surrendered himself without even protesting. 607 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,360 We took him to the city hall, to the interrogation room where we started to question him. 608 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:58,960 Meantime, Gonzalez and Powers located the apartment where the suspect had been staying. 609 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,560 His rooms and personal belongings were searched and every piece of the missing jewelry recovered. 610 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:08,680 Surprisingly enough, in contrast to his partner, Ernie Windsor, Moss was cooperative, even 611 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,840 obliging. 612 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,800 We had a stenographer take his full statement. 613 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,200 Then we got ready to move him over to the main jail for booking. 614 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,240 Just a couple of questions before we leave, Moss. 615 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,560 Sure, Sergeant, go ahead. 616 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,560 We've had you in here before. 617 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,480 How come all the cooperation this time? 618 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,480 Why not? 619 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,480 I had it figured before time. 620 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,520 If you got me, you'd have everything you need on me. 621 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,480 Wouldn't do much good putting in a beef, would it? 622 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,280 Whose idea was it to start with, Moss, the holdup deal? 623 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,280 Yours or was it Windsor's? 624 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,280 Both of us, I guess. 625 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,200 I didn't want to get rough with the old man, I mean the way Ernie did. 626 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,200 That part I didn't like. 627 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,680 All I wanted was a loot. 628 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,320 Ernie just lost his head. 629 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,320 Too bad. 630 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,840 All right, you ready to go? 631 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:43,840 Anytime, Sergeant. 632 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,280 Hey, I wonder if I could ask a favor. 633 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,280 What's that? 634 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,080 Well, it's gonna get a little tough in there in that jail. 635 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,440 I wonder if we couldn't stop for a good steak and some french fries first, huh? 636 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,440 Maybe some good restaurant around here? 637 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:56,440 No, it won't work, Moss. 638 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,040 You know I wouldn't try anything. 639 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,080 You put your order in a long time ago, Mr. 640 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,080 What do you mean? 641 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,080 When you worked over that old couple. 642 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,080 Oh, yeah? 643 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:12,080 That's when you ordered jail food. 644 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,840 The story you have just heard was true. 645 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,520 The names were changed to protect the innocent. 646 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,160 On March 2nd, trial was held in Superior Court, Department 88, City and County of Los Angeles, 647 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,160 State of California. 648 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:35,240 In a moment, the results of that trial. 649 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,520 Ernest Windsor and Henry Moss were tried and convicted on one count of first degree robbery 650 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,160 and one count of assault with intent to do great bodily harm. 651 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,520 Both men are now serving their terms in the state penitentiary. 652 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:52,320 First degree robbery is punishable by imprisonment for no less than one, nor more, than ten years. 653 00:24:52,320 --> 00:25:05,640 You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from official files. 654 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,280 Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police, W.H. Parker, Los Angeles Police 655 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,280 Department. 656 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:27,880 Your seemingly innocent name is wrong now. 657 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,800 The