1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,560 The story you are about to hear is true. 2 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,800 Only the names have been changed to protect the innocent. 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,560 Fatima cigarettes. 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:29,160 Best of all, long cigarettes brings you dragnet. 5 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,720 You're a detective sergeant. 6 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,520 You're assigned to burglary detail. 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,240 A gang of clever thieves are at work in your city. 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,920 In three months, they've looted fashionable homes of $100,000 in furs and jewels. 9 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,640 There's no clue to their identity. 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:49,520 Your job, get them. 11 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,440 In Fatima, the difference is quality. 12 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,760 Yes, in Fatima, the difference is quality. 13 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:03,360 Quality of tobaccos, the finest domestic and Turkish varieties, extra mild, superbly blended 14 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,760 to give you Fatima's much different, much better flavor and aroma. 15 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:14,300 Quality of manufacture, smooth, round, perfect Fatima cigarettes, rolled in the finest paper 16 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:20,520 money can buy, manufactured in the newest and most modern of all cigarette factories. 17 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:25,440 Quality, even to the appearance of the bright, clean, golden yellow Fatima package. 18 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,720 So compare Fatima yourself today. 19 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:35,120 You'll find Fatima gives you all the advantages of extra length plus Fatima quality, which 20 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,440 no other king-size cigarette has. 21 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,880 Yes, light up a Fatima. 22 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,400 Your first puff will tell you. 23 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,360 Ah, that's different. 24 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:55,280 Because in Fatima, the difference is quality. 25 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,760 Dragnet, the documented drama of an actual crime. 26 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,720 For the next 30 minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will 27 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,280 travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official 28 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,040 police files. 29 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:14,140 From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is the story of your police force 30 00:02:14,140 --> 00:02:18,720 in action. 31 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,440 Was Wednesday, January 10th. 32 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,200 Was cold in Los Angeles. 33 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,560 We were working the day watch out of burglary detail. 34 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:25,960 My partner's Ben Romero. 35 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,380 The boss is Captain Wisdom. 36 00:02:27,380 --> 00:02:28,380 My name's Friday. 37 00:02:28,380 --> 00:02:32,320 It was 1115 a.m. when we got back to the city hall. 38 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,320 Captain Wisdom's office. 39 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,320 Hi, Skipper. 40 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,320 Hi. 41 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,320 How'd you make out? 42 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,320 Not too good. 43 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,320 Same old story. 44 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,600 Anybody in the house and the thieves broke in? 45 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,240 Yeah, the children's nurse was there. 46 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:43,720 She said the burglary took place about midnight. 47 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,520 She was asleep in bed at the time. 48 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,480 The nurse said she woke up when she heard the thieves forcing their way in through a 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,520 side door. 50 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,580 She jumped out of bed, ran for the telephone in the hallway, and they grabbed her before 51 00:02:52,580 --> 00:02:53,580 she could reach it. 52 00:02:53,580 --> 00:02:54,580 Was there any harm? 53 00:02:54,580 --> 00:02:55,580 Well, a little, yeah. 54 00:02:55,580 --> 00:02:56,960 They tied her up, locked her in a closet. 55 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,560 Same M.O. as the other jobs, Skipper. 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,560 Three men, each of them wore gloves and a mask. 57 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,920 They took all their furs and jewelry. 58 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:03,600 They could find nothing else. 59 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,720 Nurse give you the same general description on the three of them? 60 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,000 Yeah, it's not gonna help much. 61 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Said two of the men were tall, medium-billed, and one was short, heavy-billed. 62 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,760 She was so rattled she couldn't even remember the clothes they had on. 63 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,800 Twelve jobs with the same gang in three months. 64 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,680 We don't even have a good description on them. 65 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:18,680 How slow can we move? 66 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,680 Doing everything we can, Skipper. 67 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,680 Excuse me. 68 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,680 Is there any theory wisdom? 69 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,680 Uh-huh. 70 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,680 None until two o'clock? 71 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:26,680 No, that's all right. 72 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:27,680 Two o'clock sharp. 73 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:28,680 Right. 74 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:29,680 Bye. 75 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:30,680 Just had an appointment canceled out. 76 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,680 How about a cup of coffee downstairs? 77 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:32,680 Yeah. 78 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,160 I didn't even have a chance for breakfast this morning. 79 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,160 Fine with me. 80 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,160 Grab my hat, will you? 81 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,160 Yeah, I'll get it. 82 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,160 Here you go. 83 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,160 Thanks. 84 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:44,440 I guess you talked to the owners of the house, huh? 85 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,000 The place was broken into last night? 86 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Yeah, we did. 87 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Mr. and Mrs. Peterson. 88 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,920 They got home a couple hours after the burglary, took a quick inventory. 89 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,400 What did they find missing? 90 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,040 Fur and jewels, same as the other jobs, almost $12,000 worth. 91 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,040 That's the biggest fall yet. 92 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,200 I don't have to spell it out for you. 93 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:00,200 We need a break on this thing. 94 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,200 We need a bet. 95 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,200 More pressure from the front office, huh? 96 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,200 Coming from all sides. 97 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,200 The victims, their insurance companies, newspapers. 98 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,200 They got a right to cry. 99 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,200 Those thieves have been grabbing furs and jewels for three months. 100 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,200 We're doing everything about it we can do, Skipper. 101 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,200 Planning stakeouts, working our informants, running down every lead we can get our hands 102 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,200 on. 103 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,200 Covered every angle I can think of. 104 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,200 They don't worry about the angles we cover. 105 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,200 They want results. 106 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,200 They want their property back. 107 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,200 Yeah, go ahead, Skipper. 108 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,200 I'll get it. 109 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,200 I'll get it. 110 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,200 I'll get it. 111 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:26,960 Now, how about the stuff they took on the job last night? 112 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,840 You get it on the stolen property list? 113 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:29,840 Yeah, it's all listed. 114 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:32,840 That's one thing that really gets me. 115 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:34,440 What are the thieves doing with all that stuff? 116 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:35,440 The furs and the jewelry. 117 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,800 We've had every pawn shop in the city on the alert since they started working. 118 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,440 Checked on every possible outlet we know of. 119 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,040 Any place they could use to dump the stuff. 120 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,760 They haven't turned up a trace of it. 121 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,560 No results from those APBs you got out? 122 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,600 Well, yeah, a few, but none of them are panned out. 123 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,200 How about trying the cafeteria here? 124 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,200 They got pretty good coffee. 125 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,200 Yeah, that's a good idea. 126 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:56,480 Why don't you two grab a table? 127 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,480 I'll get the coffee. 128 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,480 Right, Ben. 129 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,480 Oh, hold the cream on mine, will you? 130 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,480 Right, Skipper. 131 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,480 How's this? 132 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:02,480 Is this all right, Skipper? 133 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,480 Yeah, it's fine. 134 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:04,480 Three chairs? 135 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,480 Yeah. 136 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,480 Okay. 137 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,240 How about it Friday? 138 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,840 You or Ben got any ideas at all? 139 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:12,680 Well, there's one thing we wanted to talk over with you. 140 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,120 We were kicking the idea around on the way back into the office. 141 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,120 Would you like a smoke? 142 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,120 Oh, thanks. 143 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,080 There you go. 144 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,560 Last night we were comparing the different stories we got from the burglary victims. 145 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,560 You got a light? 146 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:28,560 Thank you. 147 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,560 You got a lighter, right? 148 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,560 Yeah, it's all right. 149 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,560 Thanks. 150 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,560 Go ahead. 151 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,120 Well, that's one thing that all their stories seem to have in common. 152 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,800 Now, that's counting all 12 victims. 153 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:39,800 Yeah, what's that? 154 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:40,800 Well, let's see. 155 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:41,800 I got a piece of paper here. 156 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,600 I got it all figured out. 157 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,640 Yeah. 158 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,800 We know all the victims are fairly wealthy people. 159 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,400 They go out quite a bit, parties, night clubs, things like that. 160 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:50,400 Yeah. 161 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:51,960 None of them were at home at the time the burglaries were pulled. 162 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:52,960 That's right, yeah. 163 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:53,960 Here you go. 164 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:54,960 There's your skipper. 165 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:55,960 Okay. 166 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:56,960 Thanks. 167 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:57,960 Thank you very much. 168 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,440 I was just telling the captain about that idea we were talking about on the way back 169 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,440 in. 170 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,440 Yeah. 171 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,840 All right, so none of the victims were home at the time of the burglary. 172 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:05,840 Where does it go from there? 173 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:09,960 Well, for one thing, we all pretty much agree that there must be a finger man working with 174 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,000 the gang, don't we? 175 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,240 Somebody who knows the victims aren't home, somebody who also knows the victims aren't 176 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,840 wearing the furs or jewels on that particular night, is that right? 177 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:17,840 That's right. 178 00:06:17,840 --> 00:06:18,840 We've been going on that assumption. 179 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:20,080 Now, the question is, who's the finger man? 180 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,240 Well, that's what I'm trying to get at here. 181 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,240 Ben and I compared the victims' stories. 182 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,680 We found out that in every case, each of the victims had been out in some public place 183 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,200 from three to five days before the night of the burglary. 184 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,400 Now, at that time, every one of them wore furs and expensive jewelry. 185 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,400 Yeah. 186 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,960 Why don't you read off some of those examples we've got there, Joe? 187 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:38,960 Okay. 188 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,760 Well, here's the first one. 189 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,080 Mr. and Mrs. Charles King. 190 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,880 Now, on December 10th, they went to a nightclub out in Hollywood. 191 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,660 Mrs. King wore a fur coat and quite a bit of jewelry. 192 00:06:48,660 --> 00:06:51,120 On December 14th, they went out to a theater. 193 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,120 They didn't dress up at all. 194 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,080 They left the furs and jewels at home. 195 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,600 That's the night that their house was burglarized. 196 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,600 And the same pattern shows up in every one of the victim's stories? 197 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:59,600 No. 198 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,920 No, it's not quite that close, but the same elements seem to be there. 199 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,560 Here's another one, Skipper. 200 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,560 Let's see. 201 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,760 Mr. and Mrs. Lyons. 202 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,520 November 20th, they went to a big party at a restaurant out on Sunset. 203 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,120 Woman wore jewelry, expensive fur wrap. 204 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,880 A week later, they went to a party at a friend's house. 205 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,680 Mrs. Lyons left her furs and jewelry at home. 206 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,520 And the same night, the thieves broke in. 207 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:18,520 That's a pretty good angle. 208 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,400 Now, how do you tie up all the loose ends? 209 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,520 Well, I can see a paper gun, Ben. 210 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,600 We've got a halfway figured right here. 211 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,400 Just before each of the victims was taken, they appeared in a public place, wearing the 212 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:29,640 furs and jewelry. 213 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,200 We've got a list of all the places, nightclubs, restaurants. 214 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,380 There's about six of them here. 215 00:07:33,380 --> 00:07:35,820 So the finger man for the gang must be watching these six places. 216 00:07:35,820 --> 00:07:38,760 He spots the people with expensive furs and jewelry and tips off the gang. 217 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,180 They watch the house. 218 00:07:40,180 --> 00:07:43,920 Next time the people go out and the thieves see the woman isn't wearing her furs and things, 219 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:44,920 then they move in. 220 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:45,920 It's not a sure thing. 221 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:46,920 We're just guessing, you understand? 222 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:47,920 What do you think? 223 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,680 Well, that sounds like a fair guess. 224 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,680 Let's move on it. 225 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,280 We'll have to cover each of those nightclubs and the restaurants. 226 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,680 It's gonna take more men, more time. 227 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,620 It could be nothing but a blind alley. 228 00:07:57,620 --> 00:07:59,040 We got the men, we got the time. 229 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,040 Let's try it. 230 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,580 10 p.m. Wednesday, January 10th. 231 00:08:04,580 --> 00:08:08,600 Our idea for stopping the burglary gang by reaching their spotter or finger man was put 232 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,280 into operation. 233 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,840 The half dozen nightclubs and restaurants where we thought the spotter might be checking 234 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:18,880 off richly dressed couples as future burglary victims were placed under strict surveillance. 235 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,240 Managers and employees of each of the places were questioned. 236 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,520 It went slow. 237 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,920 The first week got us four leads to check out. 238 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,440 They led nowhere. 239 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,480 Any and all suspicious looking persons loitering in or near the clubs and restaurants that 240 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,100 we had staked out were questioned and checked out thoroughly. 241 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:36,100 Another week passed. 242 00:08:36,100 --> 00:08:37,100 No results. 243 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:41,080 In the meantime, on January 23rd, the burglary gang hit again. 244 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,760 This time at a dentist's home in the Hollywood Hills. 245 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,840 The maid, a Miss Ilsa Bergstrom, was the only one present at the time of the burglary. 246 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,480 Ben and I drove out to interview her. 247 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,320 It was soon before midnight. 248 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,000 The mister and missus was gone out. 249 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,720 They were sitting with the television. 250 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,400 The three men broke in the side door. 251 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,400 Is that right, Miss Bergstrom? 252 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,400 Yeah, the side door, I think so. 253 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,400 They were sitting with the television voicing. 254 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,400 I hear this sound. 255 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,960 I turn around and the three men, they're right there in the room with me. 256 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,920 I thought I could scream, but I couldn't. 257 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,240 Do you remember what the men looked like, Miss Bergstrom? 258 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,240 How they were dressed? 259 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:12,240 I don't know. 260 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,240 I was so much being frightened. 261 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,320 One of them had a jacket on, I think. 262 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,320 Dark jacket. 263 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,360 Others, I don't know. 264 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,800 Anything else about them that you noticed? 265 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,400 They had masks all over their faces. 266 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,920 I couldn't see. 267 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:25,920 I jumped up. 268 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,680 I tried to scream, but I was so much frightened. 269 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:29,680 What did they do then, Miss? 270 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:33,520 They put a cloth all around my mouth so I couldn't make noise. 271 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,280 Then they tied my hands and my feet and they put me in the closet out there. 272 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,080 Just about the whole way. 273 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,600 I was kicking and hitting at them. 274 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,560 Had you ever seen any of the men before, Miss Bergstrom? 275 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:44,560 No, never before. 276 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:47,040 Do you think you'd know any of the men if you saw them again? 277 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,520 I shouldn't be sure. 278 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,560 One of them, maybe I might know him. 279 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:51,560 Well, how do you mean? 280 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:52,560 Did you get a look at his face? 281 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:54,480 Yeah, only it was very quick. 282 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:55,880 Then they was putting me in the closet. 283 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,920 I was hitting and kicking at them. 284 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,600 One of the men, I knocked his hat off. 285 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:00,600 It fell on the floor. 286 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,000 I pulled at the thing on his face, the mask almost that came off. 287 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,400 Well, from what you could see, what did the man look like? 288 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,360 Blonde hair, I can't remember. 289 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,440 There's not so much on top here. 290 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,600 It's only on the side here. 291 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:21,360 And there was right there by the forehead, a scar going over that way. 292 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,360 Yeah. 293 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,320 Was he a big man, do you know, as big as the other two? 294 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,320 No, no. 295 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,320 He was a smaller man. 296 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,520 He was bigger this way, you know, fatter. 297 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,520 Yeah. 298 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,160 He was so mad when I knocked his hat off, I thought maybe he'd kill me. 299 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,480 They only put me in the closet, you know, and then they closed the door. 300 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,720 I could hear them upstairs going through the Mr. and Mrs. room. 301 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,720 You're pretty sure of the description you've given us, Miss Berks? 302 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,520 Oh, yeah, the scar, the blonde hair, not so much on top. 303 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:45,520 I remember that. 304 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,920 It was, well, I was so much frightened, I thought they'd kill me. 305 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,040 Now, after they locked you in the closet, they didn't come back? 306 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,040 That's the last you saw of them? 307 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,520 Yeah, they didn't come back to me. 308 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,280 I could hear them moving around upstairs, and then I could hear them leave after a while. 309 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,720 It was like all night for the Mr. and Mrs. came home and found me. 310 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,280 I was so much frightened. 311 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,040 This thing wouldn't happen in Sweden. 312 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,640 That's where I come from, Sweden. 313 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:07,640 Yes, ma'am. 314 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,640 You sure there's nothing else about these men that you've noticed? 315 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,640 Something we ought to know about? 316 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,240 No, everything I saw, yes, what happened, I told you the way it was. 317 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,840 This never would have happened in Sweden. 318 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,040 Not like this, these robbers like this. 319 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,040 Burglars, ma'am. 320 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,040 Yeah, these burglars. 321 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,800 I thought I'd be dead. 322 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,600 Never would happen in Sweden like this. 323 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,520 You mean you don't have burglars in Sweden? 324 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,480 Yeah, yeah, we have burglars. 325 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:29,800 Well, then just how do you mean that? 326 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,120 We have burglars, but they don't break in the house. 327 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,360 When somebody's there, they're a little bit gentleman. 328 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,360 Is that so? 329 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,400 Yeah, they wait till everybody's gone from the house, then they break in. 330 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:44,600 Even burglars should be gentleman a little bit. 331 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,960 Before we left the house, we checked with the owners, took their crime report and a 332 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,760 list of their stolen property, some $6,000 in jewelry and fur coats. 333 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,160 The maid's description of one of the three men in the gang wasn't complete, but it was 334 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,680 the best that we'd had on them in three months. 335 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:02,560 Frank Cunningham and the Eye Bureau had the description of the scar on the suspect's forehead 336 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:04,280 checked through the oddity file. 337 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,920 Meantime, Ben and I paired up the additional facts about the suspect. 338 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,600 The scar, the color and condition of his hair, along with his general description, his approximate 339 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,300 weight and height. 340 00:12:14,300 --> 00:12:18,360 We had the stats office make a run for us and all ex-cons with burglary records who 341 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,700 fitted the overall description. 342 00:12:20,700 --> 00:12:24,720 They came up with a list of ten names and we started checking them out. 343 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,840 One of the first listed was a Russell Snow. 344 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,600 We checked his last known address, but he'd moved. 345 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:34,080 His mail was being forwarded in care of his brother, George Snow, who managed the Neptune 346 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,100 Plunge, a public indoor swimming pool in the East Hollywood neighborhood. 347 00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:40,160 We drove out to interview the brother. 348 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,200 Pretty good size for an indoor pool, huh? 349 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,200 Yeah, it is. 350 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,880 It's a nice layout they got. 351 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,840 Must be the office way to head, Ben. 352 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:49,840 Hey, Joe. 353 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:50,840 Joe, look. 354 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:51,840 What's that? 355 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:52,840 That girl over there. 356 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,080 Look at that bathing suit she's got on. 357 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,280 Yeah, they keep getting smaller, don't they? 358 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,520 Makes you embarrassed just to look at them. 359 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,560 Yeah, maybe I'm just getting old. 360 00:13:03,560 --> 00:13:04,560 Yeah. 361 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:05,560 Yes, sir? 362 00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:06,560 We're looking for George Snow. 363 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:07,560 Yeah, I'm him. 364 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:10,560 Police officers, Mr. Snow, like to talk to you a few minutes if we could. 365 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:11,560 Oh, yeah. 366 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:13,560 Hey, let me grab a towel over here and get right off, though. 367 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:14,560 Sure. 368 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:15,560 Come on over. 369 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:16,560 Pull up one of these deck chairs here. 370 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:17,560 You all right? 371 00:13:17,560 --> 00:13:18,560 Thank you very much. 372 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:23,120 Well, what is it, officers? 373 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,280 What can I do for you? 374 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,040 You have a brother, isn't that right, sir, a Russell Snow? 375 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,040 Yeah, that's right. 376 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,040 Russ is my brother. 377 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,040 Anything wrong? 378 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,040 Well, we'd like to locate him if we could. 379 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,040 You know where we can find him? 380 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,040 No, I don't think I can. 381 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,520 Last I heard from Russ was about six months ago. 382 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,880 Said he was going to take a job in Minneapolis. 383 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,160 Not in trouble again, is he? 384 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,760 Not that we know of, we'd like to locate him, that's all. 385 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,120 I don't think I can help you much. 386 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,200 Russ isn't much of a letter writer. 387 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,400 Only time I hear from him is when he's in town. 388 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,480 We've checked at the last place your brother was staying. 389 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,280 They told us he left word to forward all his mail here to you. 390 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,280 Is that right? 391 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,280 Yeah, that's right. 392 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,280 Russ asked me to take care of it. 393 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,560 No letters have come through so far, though. 394 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:09,120 Were you to hang on to his mail or send it on to him in Minneapolis? 395 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,280 No, I was going to hang on to him. 396 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,320 Russ said he'd picked up his mail next time he was through. 397 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,240 As I say, that was six months ago. 398 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,640 I haven't seen or heard from him since. 399 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,920 Then you wouldn't know if he was actually in Minneapolis or not. 400 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:20,920 Well, no, I wouldn't. 401 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,880 I guess you know my brother Russell had a police record. 402 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:24,880 Yes, there we go. 403 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,520 He had that trouble a couple of years ago, that burglary rep. 404 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,560 I think Russell earned his lesson. 405 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,480 Are you your brother's only living relative? 406 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,480 I mean, is there anyone else in town who might have heard from him? 407 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:36,480 I don't know, Alton. 408 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:37,480 Excuse me, Mr. May. 409 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,480 All right, kids, no running around the side of the pool, you hear? 410 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:41,480 You slipped and break your neck. 411 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:42,480 No more running. 412 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:43,480 Sorry, I got to watch Michael Hawkins. 413 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,480 Yes, sir. 414 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,000 Like I was saying, I can't think of anybody who might have heard from Russ. 415 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,880 I'm his only relation, but he does have a few friends around town. 416 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,600 I mean, legitimate fellows, you know. 417 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:55,600 Yeah, I know. 418 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,600 They come around once in a while, drop in and say hello. 419 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,040 Have any of them heard from your brother? 420 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,000 They might have, but I didn't ask them. 421 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,600 His old Matt Garson, he's a good friend of my brother's. 422 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,600 He was in the other day, but he didn't say anything about hearing from Russ. 423 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,760 Might be that he has. 424 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,280 Maybe he didn't think to mention it. 425 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,600 Where does this Matt Garson stay, do you know? 426 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,800 I really couldn't tell you, officer. 427 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,320 That's a real character, kind of a floater. 428 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,360 Doesn't stay with one job more than two months. 429 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,680 Like last week when he was in here. 430 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:22,680 Yes, sir? 431 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,800 He's a real pitchman, gave me a big sales talk. 432 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:25,800 Biggest bargain on earth. 433 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,800 Said he'd sell me a couple of them real cheap. 434 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,000 I didn't have any use for him. 435 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,000 What's that, sir? 436 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,120 Fur coats. 437 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,200 Before we left, George Snow gave us a complete description of Matt Garson together with the 438 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,360 names of five of Garson's acquaintances who might know of his whereabouts. 439 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,960 When Ben and I got back to the city hall, we checked Garson's name and description through 440 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:45,960 R&I. 441 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,000 He had a record of two fairly recent arrests, but no convictions. 442 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,560 Both arrests were for suspicion of burglary. 443 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,280 We checked on Garson's last known residence. 444 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,720 He'd moved, no forwarding address. 445 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,600 His last place of employment was listed as the Park Tivoli nightclub out on Wilshire 446 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:02,600 Boulevard. 447 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,240 The Park Tivoli was one of the six places that we'd staked out as a possible working 448 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,560 ground for the burglary gang's finger man, a place where he could spot expensively dressed 449 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,080 persons, check on their home addresses, and line them up as future burglary victims. 450 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,360 Ben put in a call to the manager of the Park Tivoli to check on Garson's employment. 451 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,840 What was that, sir? 452 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:21,840 Last July. 453 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:22,840 Mm-hmm, I see. 454 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,800 Well, yes, he will probably be out tonight. 455 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,320 Right, thank you, boy. 456 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,800 What'd you get? 457 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,720 Garson worked out there all right, partying a lot of time, and he quit last July. 458 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,720 But he's the guy checking off the customers' furs and jewels. 459 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:34,720 He's in a perfect spot. 460 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:35,720 Yeah. 461 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,440 The manager told me that Garson has a girlfriend. 462 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:38,960 She still works at the club. 463 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:39,960 Might be the answer, Joe. 464 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:40,960 Well, how do you figure? 465 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:52,600 She runs a hat check stand. 466 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,680 You are in the communications division of a metropolitan police department, the Teletype 467 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,680 Room. 468 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:14,600 43 LOS 529 51, 1203 PM APB, WMA 150, 5 foot 6, dark hair, dark eyes, wearing gray suit, 469 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:15,880 no hat. 470 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,480 Suspect is wearing glasses, heavy build, 22 years. 471 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,680 Suspect is armed with blue steel revolver. 472 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:22,680 Any information? 473 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,680 Forward. 474 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,560 You have just heard a teletype description of a suspect. 475 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:31,160 This information will apply to many, but careful screening will eliminate all but one. 476 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,200 You'll find the same is true when you examine king-size cigarettes. 477 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,240 Yes, careful screening will eliminate all but Fatima. 478 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,080 Compare Fatima. 479 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:46,120 Fatimas are the same length as any other king-size cigarette, 85 millimeters. 480 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:50,680 Fatima has the same circumference, 1 and 1 64 inches around. 481 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:56,520 And Fatima filters the smoke exactly the same long distance as other king-size cigarettes. 482 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,600 But in Fatima, the difference is quality. 483 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:06,680 Fatima gives you extra mildness, a much different, much better flavor and aroma. 484 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:12,880 You get all the advantages of extra length plus Fatima quality, which no other king-size 485 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,240 cigarette has. 486 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,400 So compare Fatima yourself. 487 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,720 Your first puff will tell you. 488 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,520 Ah, that's different. 489 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,400 Yes, in Fatima, the difference is quality. 490 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,040 Buy Fatima. 491 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:38,600 Best of all, long cigarettes. 492 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,720 One of the biggest problems that faces a police officer working the burglary detail is not 493 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,120 only apprehending the thief, but also recovering the stolen property. 494 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:52,200 Dozens of criminals of this type will spend five, ten, or even 15 years in prison if they 495 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,860 know that on their release they will have a stake of thousands of dollars in stolen 496 00:18:55,860 --> 00:18:59,920 property which they've hidden somewhere to start over again with. 497 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:03,480 Thursday, January 26th, 5 p.m. 498 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,920 We got out of broadcast and an APB on the burglary suspect, Matt Garson. 499 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,800 Then we began checking back on his girlfriend, Virginia Ramsey, who worked as a hat-check 500 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,760 girl at the Park Tivoli nightclub on Wilshire Boulevard. 501 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,000 It was one of the six probable places where we thought that the finger man for the burglary 502 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,840 gang was lining up potential victims. 503 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,080 Despite the fact that she often associated with known criminal suspects, the Ramsey girl 504 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,200 had no previous criminal record herself. 505 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,760 That night after she reported in for work at the club, Ben and I checked her apartment. 506 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,920 In one of the closets we found three expensive fur coats. 507 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,080 They were all identified as property taken in previous burglaries by the gang. 508 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,760 In a strong box in the desk we found a half a dozen pieces of expensive jewelry also identified 509 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,600 on the stolen property list. 510 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,360 Ben and I got in the car and drove to the Park Tivoli nightclub. 511 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:52,520 Your hat, sir. 512 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:53,520 Check your hat. 513 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,520 Your name Virginia Ramsey? 514 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:55,520 Yes, that's right. 515 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,800 Police officers, Miss Ramsey, like to talk to you downtown. 516 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:58,800 Beg your pardon? 517 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,240 I say we're police officers. 518 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,120 Here's our identification. 519 00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:03,120 Like to talk to you downtown. 520 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:04,120 What's it all about? 521 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:05,120 I haven't done anything. 522 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:07,040 Then there's no reason to worry. 523 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,760 We'd just like to ask you a few questions, that's all. 524 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:10,760 What about? 525 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,120 A man by the name of Matt Garson. 526 00:20:12,120 --> 00:20:13,760 I understand you know him quite well. 527 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,120 No, I don't know him. 528 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:16,480 I don't even know what you're talking about. 529 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,920 Want to get your coat, Miss Ramsey? 530 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,760 We'll talk it over downtown, huh? 531 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:20,760 I'm working now. 532 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,040 Listen, I won't be off till two o'clock. 533 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,480 I can't just walk off the job. 534 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,480 We'll just talk to the manager. 535 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,200 He's going to have one of the other girls take your place. 536 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,200 Do you want to get your coat, please? 537 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,920 All right. 538 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,280 You sure you checked with the manager? 539 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,880 I don't want to lose my job leaving like this. 540 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:38,880 We talked to him. 541 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,880 It's all right. 542 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:40,880 This way, please, out the side door. 543 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:47,280 I'd like to know what this whole thing's all about. 544 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,000 But I think I have a right to know pulling me off a job like this. 545 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,680 We told you, Miss Ramsey, it's about a friend of yours, Matt Garson. 546 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,720 He used to work here at the club, didn't he? 547 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,720 I wouldn't know. 548 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,120 A lot of people work here. 549 00:20:57,120 --> 00:20:59,120 I don't know them all. 550 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,120 Why should you want him anyway? 551 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:02,120 Do you know him? 552 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:04,120 I think I might, yes. 553 00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:05,120 I'm not sure. 554 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:06,600 Why do you want him? 555 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:07,600 For interrogation. 556 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,400 Just like to ask him a few questions. 557 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,400 Why? 558 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,480 Are you ready to admit that you know Garson? 559 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,680 I think I might. 560 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,200 Yeah, I know him. 561 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,240 Want to get in, Miss Ramsey? 562 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,760 I still don't know what it's all about. 563 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,240 Why do you want Matt Garson? 564 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,320 Same reason we want you, suspicion of burglary. 565 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,480 You don't know what you're talking about. 566 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,160 You can't prove anything against me. 567 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,440 We already have, Miss. 568 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,440 Huh? 569 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,440 We found three fur coats in your apartment. 570 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,840 There was some jewelry there, too. 571 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:36,840 Those things are mine. 572 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:37,840 Every one of them, they're all mine. 573 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:38,840 All right, come on. 574 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:39,840 You're wasting time. 575 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:40,840 They're stolen property. 576 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:41,840 You know that. 577 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:42,840 How about it, Miss? 578 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,840 You want to tell us about Matt Garson. 579 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:44,840 Who is he? 580 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,840 I told you. 581 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,440 Told you the first time. 582 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,440 Yeah? 583 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,440 I don't know him. 584 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,720 10 p.m. 585 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,120 We drove the suspect, Virginia Ramsey, downtown to the city hall and took her to the interrogation 586 00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:58,120 room. 587 00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:00,840 We questioned her continuously until well past midnight. 588 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,720 She refused to admit anything. 589 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,960 We gave her time to rest a little and sent out for some food. 590 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,840 Then we resumed the interrogations. 591 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,440 2 a.m. 592 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,840 The Ramsey girl still refused to admit any connection with Matt Garson, his friend Russell 593 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,600 Snow or any members of the burglary gang. 594 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:17,600 We stayed with it. 595 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,600 By 4 a.m. 596 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,680 We'd halfway convinced her that protecting the members of the gang wasn't the answer, 597 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,200 that the best thing for her to do would be to cooperate. 598 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,200 5.30 a.m. 599 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,200 Can I have a cigarette? 600 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,200 Yeah. 601 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:37,280 Here you are. 602 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,280 I'll tell you about it. 603 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,280 I know Matt Garson. 604 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,280 He's one of the gang. 605 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,280 You know where he is? 606 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,280 No. 607 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,720 He got me into it. 608 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:47,720 He made me do it. 609 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,720 There wasn't anything else I could do. 610 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,720 What did he make you do? 611 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,520 Well, when I was checking coats and things at the club, I was supposed to watch for customers 612 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,400 with money, expensive furs and jewels. 613 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,560 I found out who they were and then I'd tell Matt. 614 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,560 He'd tell the others. 615 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,220 Who are the others? 616 00:23:05,220 --> 00:23:06,960 One of them's Johnny Lang. 617 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,960 There are a couple of others, but I don't know their names. 618 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,400 Believe me, Sergeant, Matt made me do it. 619 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,760 He got me into it before I knew what it was all about. 620 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,400 When I found out, he threatened to frame me if I didn't go along with him. 621 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,400 Do you know where any of these men live, where they hang out? 622 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,400 No. 623 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,960 None of them, not even Matt. 624 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,760 Ever since he moved, he wouldn't give me his new address. 625 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,520 Do you think Garson will try to contact you at your apartment in the next few days, maybe? 626 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,680 No, I don't think so. 627 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:36,840 Not until after the next job. 628 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,840 They're waiting on it now. 629 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,400 They've been watching the house. 630 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,400 Which house is that? 631 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,280 A place out in West Hollywood. 632 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,280 Wealthy people. 633 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,560 They were in the club about a week ago. 634 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,640 And the gang's waiting for them to go out some night and leave their valuables at home, 635 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,640 is that it? 636 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,640 Yeah, that's right. 637 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,640 Matt says it's an easy house to break into. 638 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:52,640 He thinks it ought to be a cinch. 639 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,640 Matt ought to know better. 640 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,640 Huh? 641 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,920 It's the easy ones you trip over. 642 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,880 Before we booked her in on suspicion of burglary, Virginia Ramsey gave us the name and address 643 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,680 of the people in West Hollywood who were supposedly the next victims on the burglary 644 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,600 gangs list. 645 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,160 Later in the morning we drove out to see the people, a Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Thornson told 646 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,760 them the story and laid out our plans, which they agreed to. 647 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,800 That night the Thornsons left their home a few minutes before nine. 648 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,080 They were simply dressed, no furs, no jewels. 649 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:27,240 At nine thirty-five, three men scaled a fence at the rear of the Thornsons' home and broke 650 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,140 in through a side door. 651 00:24:29,140 --> 00:24:33,920 Right behind them was a detail of a half a dozen officers who moved in and made the arrest. 652 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,320 The three suspects were taken downtown where they were identified as Russell Snow, Matt 653 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,640 Garson, and Howard Ferris. 654 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,120 We searched their apartments, their cars and garages. 655 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:45,120 There was no trace of the stolen property. 656 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:49,320 Each of the men were brought to the interrogation room separately for questioning. 657 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,720 Matt Garson was the first. 658 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,600 He denied any knowledge of where the loot was hidden. 659 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:53,600 That's the truth. 660 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,600 I don't know where the stuff is. 661 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,200 I work for the Outfit, that's all. 662 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,200 You've been working for three months without a payout. 663 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,440 Is that what you're trying to tell her? 664 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,560 Well, we haven't been turning over everything we got. 665 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,200 We've been holding out half the stuff, selling it on the side. 666 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,040 We just work for the Outfit, that's all. 667 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,440 That's not the way we get it, Garson. 668 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,040 You're supposed to be the big man. 669 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,840 You masterminded the deal. 670 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,840 Me? 671 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,840 Who told you that? 672 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,200 Your girlfriend, Virginia Ramsey. 673 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,340 We picked her up yesterday. 674 00:25:15,340 --> 00:25:16,340 She told us everything. 675 00:25:16,340 --> 00:25:17,340 What'd she tell you? 676 00:25:17,340 --> 00:25:18,720 You're the big man. 677 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,720 Was your idea. 678 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,720 You ran the works. 679 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,520 What about it, Garson? 680 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,680 Big joke, Sergeant, on both of us. 681 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,760 What do you mean? 682 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:26,760 You can ask the other boys. 683 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,080 They'll tell you the same thing. 684 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,080 We can prove it, too. 685 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,080 There's only one boss in this operation. 686 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,080 Virginia Ramsey. 687 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:40,720 For a 23-year-old girl, it seemed like a new record of some kind, if it was true. 688 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,920 We checked the other suspects, Russell Snow and Howard Ferris. 689 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,400 They told us substantially the same story. 690 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,680 The Ramsey girl had formulated all the plans and directed the entire operation of the gang 691 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,560 since its inception. 692 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,560 They insisted that they had no idea where the stolen property was hidden, but they did 693 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,200 know that the Ramsey girl had a safety deposit box in a downtown bank. 694 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,460 We made a canvas of banks in the downtown area, and a day later we located the safety 695 00:26:05,460 --> 00:26:08,440 deposit box listed in Miss Ramsey's name. 696 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,680 We obtained a court order and the box was open. 697 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:16,360 In it, we found practically all of the stolen jewelry, almost $50,000 worth. 698 00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:21,220 Ben and I went back to the main jail where we had Virginia Ramsey signed out for investigation. 699 00:26:21,220 --> 00:26:24,200 We brought her to the interrogation room where we confronted her with the evidence. 700 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,800 I didn't think you'd find out. 701 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,880 How about the furs, Miss Ramsey? 702 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,880 I got the key. 703 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,880 You can have it. 704 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:30,880 I rented a private garage. 705 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,880 I got them stored in there. 706 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:32,880 All of them? 707 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:33,880 Just about, yeah. 708 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:34,880 You picked up the others in my apartment. 709 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,880 How'd you manage to run this whole operation? 710 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,880 Those men you had working for you, you cut them in for practically nothing. 711 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,880 They were experts, the best in the business. 712 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:43,880 That's why I hired them. 713 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,880 They were the best. 714 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,880 It's too bad. 715 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:46,880 Should have worked out. 716 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,880 Too bad it didn't go. 717 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,880 You had a pretty fair run. 718 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,880 It wasn't half bad for me. 719 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,880 I was just a little bit of a wimp. 720 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:51,880 I was just a little bit of a wimp. 721 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,880 I was just a little bit of a wimp. 722 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,880 I was just a little bit of a wimp. 723 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,880 It wasn't half bad for me, was it? 724 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,880 I'm only 23. 725 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,960 First time I ever tried anything like it. 726 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:01,960 What gave you the idea? 727 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,960 I don't know. 728 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,960 I wanted things. 729 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,960 Pretty smart set up, though, don't you think, Sergeant? 730 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,960 How's that? 731 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,960 Wouldn't you say I played the whole thing pretty smart? 732 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,960 Oh, I don't know. 733 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,960 You figure it. 734 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:09,960 What? 735 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:10,960 You're in jail, aren't you? 736 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,960 The story you have just heard was true. 737 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:12,960 You were in jail. 738 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,960 You were in jail. 739 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,960 You were in jail. 740 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:15,960 You were in jail. 741 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:16,960 You were in jail. 742 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,960 You were in jail. 743 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:18,960 You were in jail. 744 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,960 You were in jail. 745 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:20,960 You were in jail. 746 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,960 You were in jail. 747 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:22,960 You were in jail. 748 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,960 You were in jail. 749 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,960 You were in jail. 750 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,960 You were in jail. 751 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:26,960 You were in jail. 752 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:27,960 You were in jail. 753 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:28,960 You were in jail. 754 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,960 Die, please. 755 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,640 Hello, sir? 756 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,640 Oh, hello. 757 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,280 I'm really sorry, Don. 758 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,960 Oh, you have issue. 759 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:35,960 Er... 760 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,460 Oh, my gosh, remember, what happened when 761 00:27:39,460 --> 00:27:42,200 we held a low- Damien was median camp. 762 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,620 The 763 00:27:44,620 --> 00:27:45,640 noise. 764 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,280 There was a tape loop that was losing the 765 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:54,660 aroma and I know you'll like Fatima's extra mildness. Make a note tomorrow. Buy Fatima's 766 00:27:54,660 --> 00:27:56,280 in the familiar yellow carton. 767 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:09,100 Twenty-three-year-old Virginia Ramsey, the leader of the gang, was tried and convicted 768 00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:14,780 on four counts of first-degree burglary and four counts of receiving stolen property. 769 00:28:14,780 --> 00:28:19,480 The three male members of the gang were convicted of first-degree burglary, also four counts. 770 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:25,040 They are now serving their terms in the state penitentiary. First-degree burglary is punishable 771 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:30,080 by imprisonment for not less than five years. Receiving stolen property is punishable by 772 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:35,080 imprisonment for not less than six months, nor more than five years. 773 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,560 Ladies and gentlemen, vacation time is here again and a great many of you will be taking 774 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:44,760 trips in your automobile. Danger is never absent from the highways of America. Be careful. 775 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:58,400 The care you take may save a life and that life may be your own. 776 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,760 You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from official files. Technical advice 777 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:11,280 comes from the Office of Chief of Police, W.H. Parker, Los Angeles Police Department. 778 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:16,800 Latima cigarettes, best of all long cigarettes, has brought you Dragnet, transcribed from 779 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:22,440 Los Angeles. 780 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:46,520 Stay tuned for Counterspy, next over most NBC stations.