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01:42.520 --> 01:50.680 Dragnet, the documented drama of an actual crime. 01:50.680 --> 01:54.920 For the next 30 minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will 01:54.920 --> 01:59.560 travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official 01:59.560 --> 02:01.280 police files. 02:01.280 --> 02:06.600 From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is the story of your police force 02:06.600 --> 02:07.600 in action. 02:07.600 --> 02:15.240 It was Tuesday, January 9th. 02:15.240 --> 02:17.040 Was rainy and windy in Los Angeles. 02:17.040 --> 02:19.920 We were working the night watch out of homicide detail. 02:19.920 --> 02:21.640 My partner's Ben Romero. 02:21.640 --> 02:23.920 The boss is Thad Brown, chief of detectives. 02:23.920 --> 02:25.640 My name's Friday. 02:25.640 --> 02:29.720 Was 9.27 p.m. when I got to room 42. 02:29.720 --> 02:30.720 Homicide detail. 02:30.720 --> 02:33.720 All right, Joe. 02:33.720 --> 02:35.680 Great night, huh? 02:35.680 --> 02:36.680 Terrible weather. 02:36.680 --> 02:38.720 Just look out there on Spring Street. 02:38.720 --> 02:39.720 Yeah, I know. 02:39.720 --> 02:41.560 I just came in out of it. 02:41.560 --> 02:42.560 Really coming down. 02:42.560 --> 02:43.560 Yeah. 02:43.560 --> 02:46.080 Just like I told you on the phone this afternoon. 02:46.080 --> 02:47.080 What's that? 02:47.080 --> 02:50.680 Every time those sea ghosts flying from the coast, it means rain. 02:50.680 --> 02:51.680 Yeah. 02:51.680 --> 02:54.880 It sure is a fine coat. 02:54.880 --> 02:57.080 I've never been sorry I bought this. 02:57.080 --> 02:58.640 Let me take another look at that, Joe. 02:58.640 --> 02:59.640 Yeah, sure. 02:59.640 --> 03:00.640 Here. 03:00.640 --> 03:01.640 Oh, yeah. 03:01.640 --> 03:02.640 Yeah, that's a good one. 03:02.640 --> 03:03.640 English coat, huh? 03:03.640 --> 03:04.640 Yeah. 03:04.640 --> 03:06.760 It's a little heavier over there than we do here. 03:06.760 --> 03:08.960 Seemed to be kind of good in our business. 03:08.960 --> 03:10.720 You remember that Henderson stakeout last month? 03:10.720 --> 03:11.720 Oh, yeah. 03:11.720 --> 03:12.720 Really poured down that thing. 03:12.720 --> 03:13.720 Mm-hmm. 03:13.720 --> 03:14.720 This coat kept me dry as a bone. 03:14.720 --> 03:16.720 The water just seems to roll off of it. 03:16.720 --> 03:17.720 Yeah. 03:17.720 --> 03:18.720 That's a good one. 03:18.720 --> 03:19.720 Here you go. 03:19.720 --> 03:20.720 Thank you. 03:20.720 --> 03:21.720 I'm going to have to hang it up. 03:21.720 --> 03:22.720 Mm-hmm. 03:22.720 --> 03:27.720 Supposed to keep a good coat on a hanger, you know, especially when they're wet. 03:27.720 --> 03:28.720 I'm very sure. 03:28.720 --> 03:33.040 The trouble with mine is it leaks right up here over the shoulders. 03:33.040 --> 03:34.760 Must be through the seams, huh? 03:34.760 --> 03:35.760 Yeah, I guess so. 03:35.760 --> 03:36.760 Same one I've been wearing. 03:36.760 --> 03:37.760 I told you about it before. 03:37.760 --> 03:39.760 You said you were going to get a new one, didn't you? 03:39.760 --> 03:40.760 Yeah, but it's such a good coat. 03:40.760 --> 03:41.760 Otherwise, I'd hate to throw it away. 03:41.760 --> 03:42.760 It's no good if it leaks. 03:42.760 --> 03:43.760 Oh, I guess you're right at that. 03:43.760 --> 03:44.760 Maybe I can get those seams fixed, do you think? 03:44.760 --> 03:45.760 I don't know. 03:45.760 --> 03:46.760 How long you had it? 03:46.760 --> 03:47.760 Seven years. 03:47.760 --> 03:48.760 I'll get it. 03:48.760 --> 03:49.760 Homicide, Friday. 03:49.760 --> 03:50.760 This is 14 on the complaint board. 03:50.760 --> 03:51.760 Take this call. 03:51.760 --> 03:52.760 Right. 03:52.760 --> 03:53.760 Hello? 03:53.760 --> 03:54.760 Hello? 03:54.760 --> 03:55.760 Hello? 03:55.760 --> 03:56.760 Hello? 03:56.760 --> 03:57.760 Hello? 03:57.760 --> 03:58.760 Hello? 03:58.760 --> 03:59.760 Hello? 03:59.760 --> 04:00.760 Hello? 04:00.760 --> 04:01.760 Hello? 04:01.760 --> 04:02.760 Hello? 04:02.760 --> 04:03.760 Hello? 04:03.760 --> 04:04.760 My name's Leonard Gray. 04:04.760 --> 04:05.760 Yes, sir? 04:05.760 --> 04:06.760 My wife's dead. 04:06.760 --> 04:07.760 She's been killed. 04:07.760 --> 04:08.760 I just went down to the garage, and when I came back, she was dead. 04:08.760 --> 04:09.760 Could you send somebody out here right away? 04:09.760 --> 04:10.760 Yes, sir. 04:10.760 --> 04:11.760 What's that address? 04:11.760 --> 04:12.760 1627 Oxford Place. 04:12.760 --> 04:13.760 27 Oxford Place. 04:13.760 --> 04:14.760 Yes, sir, that's right. 04:14.760 --> 04:23.760 I can't understand that she was all right when I left, and then when I came back, she 04:23.760 --> 04:24.760 was dead. 04:24.760 --> 04:25.760 I can't understand that. 04:25.760 --> 04:26.760 What's that? 04:26.760 --> 04:33.760 I can't understand that she was all right when I left, and then when I came back, she 04:33.760 --> 04:34.760 was dead. 04:34.760 --> 04:35.760 I can't understand that. 04:35.760 --> 04:36.760 We'll be right there, Mr. Gray. 04:36.760 --> 04:37.760 My best friend lives right next door. 04:37.760 --> 04:38.760 Yes, sir? 04:38.760 --> 04:41.760 He says I did it. 04:41.760 --> 04:46.760 1627 Oxford Place was on the east side of the street. 04:46.760 --> 04:49.920 It was an average one-story stucco home. 04:49.920 --> 04:53.040 All the homes on the street were about the same general style and size. 04:53.040 --> 04:54.880 It was a nice neighborhood. 04:54.880 --> 04:58.720 All the grounds appeared to be well kept from what we could see through the heavy rain. 04:58.720 --> 05:02.040 The porch light was burning when we got there. 05:02.040 --> 05:06.760 Inside the house were met by the two officers from Unit 37R who filled us in on the results 05:06.760 --> 05:08.880 of their preliminary investigation. 05:08.880 --> 05:11.720 We asked them to stand by in front of the house. 05:11.720 --> 05:14.520 Then we asked the husband of the murdered woman, Leonard Gray, to show us where the 05:14.520 --> 05:15.520 body was. 05:15.520 --> 05:21.120 Back this way, in the dining room. 05:21.120 --> 05:23.000 Everything just the way you found it, Mr. Gray? 05:23.000 --> 05:24.000 You didn't touch anything? 05:24.000 --> 05:26.240 No, sir, I haven't touched anything. 05:26.240 --> 05:29.720 Right there on the floor. 05:29.720 --> 05:32.720 That's very fast. 05:32.720 --> 05:37.320 Can I wait up there in the living room? 05:37.320 --> 05:38.320 Yes, sir, it's all right. 05:38.320 --> 05:41.320 Ben, would you like to help him? 05:41.320 --> 05:42.320 Yeah. 05:42.320 --> 05:45.320 Just sit right there. 05:45.320 --> 05:50.000 I'll be right with you. 05:50.000 --> 05:51.000 Thank you. 05:51.000 --> 05:53.920 You and your wife live here alone, do you? 05:53.920 --> 05:58.600 It's just two of us, no children. 05:58.600 --> 05:59.600 Ben. 05:59.600 --> 06:00.600 Yeah? 06:00.600 --> 06:06.480 When the clothing's torn, must have put up a struggle, huh? 06:06.480 --> 06:09.360 Yeah, some redness there around the throat. 06:09.360 --> 06:10.360 Strangle? 06:10.360 --> 06:12.880 Yeah, could be. 06:12.880 --> 06:18.080 Deep gash there on the floor, broken vase there on the floor. 06:18.080 --> 06:21.080 You want to call the crime lab? 06:21.080 --> 06:23.080 Yeah, okay. 06:23.080 --> 06:27.720 Mr. Gray, where's your telephone? 06:27.720 --> 06:29.600 Right in the hall out there by the bedroom. 06:29.600 --> 06:30.600 Thank you. 06:30.600 --> 06:33.800 You think you could tell us about it now, Mr. Gray? 06:33.800 --> 06:34.800 Yes, I think so. 06:34.800 --> 06:35.800 Do you have a cigarette? 06:35.800 --> 06:36.800 Yes. 06:36.800 --> 06:37.800 I do. 06:37.800 --> 06:38.800 Thank you. 06:38.800 --> 06:39.800 Mr. Menlo, give me a light. 06:39.800 --> 06:40.800 Thanks. 06:40.800 --> 06:41.800 It's all right. 06:41.800 --> 06:56.480 Now, can you tell me just what happened here tonight? 06:56.480 --> 06:58.640 Earl Anderson, that's my friend. 06:58.640 --> 07:00.440 Lives two houses down. 07:00.440 --> 07:02.160 He and I went out after work. 07:02.160 --> 07:05.080 We usually do once or twice a week just to have a few beers. 07:05.080 --> 07:08.160 I don't know why, I felt pretty good. 07:08.160 --> 07:11.160 I guess I had a couple too many. 07:11.160 --> 07:14.760 Earl said it was late and we better be getting home, so he did. 07:14.760 --> 07:17.120 I had a little too much to drink, so he drove. 07:17.120 --> 07:18.120 I see. 07:18.120 --> 07:20.240 Where were you and your friend drinking? 07:20.240 --> 07:24.480 The bar right across from where we were, Earl Anderson and me. 07:24.480 --> 07:27.400 A lot of the men go there for a beer right after work. 07:27.400 --> 07:29.200 Were there quite a few men from work in there tonight? 07:29.200 --> 07:30.200 Yeah, quite a few. 07:30.200 --> 07:33.440 I wonder if the other officer found the phone all right. 07:33.440 --> 07:34.920 Yeah, sir, I'm sure he did. 07:34.920 --> 07:36.640 Kind of hard to find sometimes. 07:36.640 --> 07:41.360 I would have had it covered with a little curtain. 07:41.360 --> 07:42.360 That's all right, Mr. Gray. 07:42.360 --> 07:43.360 Let's try to take it easy. 07:43.360 --> 07:46.360 You're on your way. 07:46.360 --> 07:47.480 Right. 07:47.480 --> 07:50.520 He was telling me that he and his friend Earl Anderson stopped after work. 07:50.520 --> 07:53.120 They had a couple of beers and then the two of them drove on home. 07:53.120 --> 07:54.120 I see. 07:54.120 --> 07:55.120 Is that right, sir? 07:55.120 --> 07:56.120 Yeah, that's right. 07:56.120 --> 08:01.480 Well, we got home and I was feeling pretty good, so I asked Earl to come on in and have 08:01.480 --> 08:03.560 a little nightcap. 08:03.560 --> 08:05.040 What time was that when you got home? 08:05.040 --> 08:06.920 About half past six. 08:06.920 --> 08:10.280 Earl didn't want to come in because he said Hazel would be upset with me because we were 08:10.280 --> 08:11.280 a little late. 08:11.280 --> 08:14.800 Anyway, I finally talked him into coming in with her. 08:14.800 --> 08:15.800 Was your wife upset? 08:15.800 --> 08:17.760 A little bit, yeah. 08:17.760 --> 08:23.920 She used to be unhappy when I was late because of dinner, but she was never unreasonable. 08:23.920 --> 08:26.760 I didn't make it a habit to stay out unusually late anyhow. 08:26.760 --> 08:27.760 I see. 08:27.760 --> 08:28.760 I think it's terrible. 08:28.760 --> 08:29.760 It's terrible. 08:29.760 --> 08:36.880 When we got in the house, the first thing Hazel asked me was if I'd looked at the car. 08:36.880 --> 08:37.880 Whose car was that? 08:37.880 --> 08:40.640 It was our car, Dodge Sedan 42. 08:40.640 --> 08:42.640 It's parked across the street now. 08:42.640 --> 08:45.560 I wonder if we might check back here a little. 08:45.560 --> 08:46.560 Yeah. 08:46.560 --> 08:49.880 I thought I understood you to say that you felt that you'd had a little too much to drink, 08:49.880 --> 08:51.920 so your friend drove this Earl Anderson? 08:51.920 --> 08:54.640 Yes, but it was his car. 08:54.640 --> 08:56.720 I guess I should have made that a little clearer. 08:56.720 --> 09:01.440 You see, we take turns driving home either his or my car. 09:01.440 --> 09:04.120 We trade off to fight the traffic no matter whose car. 09:04.120 --> 09:05.120 I see. 09:05.120 --> 09:07.080 I wonder if you'd go on, please. 09:07.080 --> 09:10.340 I didn't know what she meant by asking if I'd seen the car. 09:10.340 --> 09:13.400 She said someone had let all the air out of the back tires. 09:13.400 --> 09:15.880 Do you know why anybody would want to do a thing like that? 09:15.880 --> 09:18.400 No, I had no idea who would do that to us. 09:18.400 --> 09:20.280 Hazel said she wanted to use the car tonight. 09:20.280 --> 09:24.040 She had to go to her friend's house to help produce some remodeling or something. 09:24.040 --> 09:25.040 Uh-huh. 09:25.040 --> 09:27.720 She didn't say a word about my being late. 09:27.720 --> 09:30.120 I thought the car had kind of taken her mind off it. 09:30.120 --> 09:33.440 I told her I'd go out and look, see if I couldn't fix it. 09:33.440 --> 09:36.680 Well, did it strike you as being important that you fixed the car right away? 09:36.680 --> 09:37.680 How do you mean? 09:37.680 --> 09:41.480 Well, sir, I was just thinking, I wouldn't want to go out in all that rain unless it 09:41.480 --> 09:42.480 was something pretty important. 09:42.480 --> 09:46.480 Well, I didn't want to either, but I figured all I'd have to do was put a little air in 09:46.480 --> 09:48.760 the tires and then drive it down to the gas station. 09:48.760 --> 09:49.760 I see. 09:49.760 --> 09:51.760 Do you want to go out? 09:51.760 --> 09:57.080 Earl said he'd be willing to give me a hand, so we went out to have a look at the car. 09:57.080 --> 09:59.400 Wanted to look at the tires and I knew we couldn't fix them. 09:59.400 --> 10:01.120 Somebody had cut them with a knife or something. 10:01.120 --> 10:02.120 They were beyond repair. 10:02.120 --> 10:03.840 Do you have any idea who did that? 10:03.840 --> 10:05.280 No, I couldn't figure it out. 10:05.280 --> 10:08.080 I have no enemies that I can think of. 10:08.080 --> 10:10.200 No one that would do a thing like that. 10:10.200 --> 10:12.320 What did you do then? 10:12.320 --> 10:16.440 Earl and I figured that we'd better take the wheels off, take them down to the garage and 10:16.440 --> 10:17.680 buy some new tires. 10:17.680 --> 10:20.400 I borrowed Earl's jack and we took off the wheels. 10:20.400 --> 10:21.400 Uh-huh. 10:21.400 --> 10:24.920 Earl said he'd be glad to take the wheels down and that I'd better go back in the house 10:24.920 --> 10:29.520 with Hazel because she might wonder what we were doing about fixing the car. 10:29.520 --> 10:31.240 I understand. 10:31.240 --> 10:35.520 We talked back and forth for a minute or two and I finally insisted that I go. 10:35.520 --> 10:37.800 Where did your friend, Earl Anderson, go? 10:37.800 --> 10:38.800 To his house. 10:38.800 --> 10:39.800 I dropped him off there. 10:39.800 --> 10:41.280 Where does he live? 10:41.280 --> 10:42.880 Just two houses down the street. 10:42.880 --> 10:43.880 Oh, huh. 10:43.880 --> 10:48.960 After I dropped him off, I went down and picked up two new tires and two tubes and they mounted 10:48.960 --> 10:52.000 them on the wheels for me and I came back. 10:52.000 --> 10:56.080 About what time was it when you got back here to the house, do you remember? 10:56.080 --> 10:57.080 I don't know. 10:57.080 --> 10:59.080 Somewhere around 915, I guess. 10:59.080 --> 11:00.080 Then what did you do? 11:00.080 --> 11:04.120 I was going to put the wheels on but I thought I'd better go back in the house and tell Hazel 11:04.120 --> 11:06.640 I'd have the car fixed in a minute. 11:06.640 --> 11:07.640 Yes. 11:07.640 --> 11:10.360 The minute I walked in the door, I knew something was wrong. 11:10.360 --> 11:12.680 It seemed like I could feel it. 11:12.680 --> 11:13.680 I called to her. 11:13.680 --> 11:16.240 She didn't answer. 11:16.240 --> 11:21.080 I went through the house and when I got to the dining room, she found her. 11:21.080 --> 11:23.000 We'll have to ask you to come downtown with us, sir. 11:23.000 --> 11:25.120 You'll have to give us a complete statement on this. 11:25.120 --> 11:26.120 Is that necessary? 11:26.120 --> 11:27.120 Yes, sir. 11:27.120 --> 11:28.120 I'm afraid it is. 11:28.120 --> 11:29.120 All right. 11:29.120 --> 11:32.760 I wonder if it'd be all right if I called my friend, Earl Anderson, to go down with 11:32.760 --> 11:33.760 me. 11:33.760 --> 11:34.760 I haven't told him about this. 11:34.760 --> 11:35.760 We'll notify him. 11:35.760 --> 11:38.680 This friend of yours, Earl Anderson. 11:38.680 --> 11:42.720 When you spoke with me on the phone, didn't you say something about your best friend saying 11:42.720 --> 11:44.720 that he thought that you killed your wife? 11:44.720 --> 11:46.440 Did I say that? 11:46.440 --> 11:48.440 Yes, sir, you did. 11:48.440 --> 11:50.880 I didn't mean it that way. 11:50.880 --> 11:51.880 How did you mean it? 11:51.880 --> 11:53.880 I've been drinking earlier tonight. 11:53.880 --> 11:57.280 Like I told you, I guess I must have gotten mixed up. 11:57.280 --> 11:59.400 Well, and he didn't say that you killed your wife? 11:59.400 --> 12:00.400 No, no, he didn't. 12:00.400 --> 12:05.320 Well, I know there's been a strain and a pretty bad shock, Mr. Gray, but you told us that 12:05.320 --> 12:08.160 you didn't say anything to Earl Anderson about this. 12:08.160 --> 12:10.640 Now, isn't that right? 12:10.640 --> 12:12.640 I'm so sick and upset. 12:12.640 --> 12:15.040 Is that what I told you? 12:15.040 --> 12:17.760 Yes, sir, you asked me if it'd be all right if you called your friend. 12:17.760 --> 12:19.440 You said you hadn't told him anything about this. 12:19.440 --> 12:20.440 I did. 12:20.440 --> 12:22.800 I called him right after I got home. 12:22.800 --> 12:23.800 I was terrified. 12:23.800 --> 12:25.480 I didn't know what to do. 12:25.480 --> 12:27.640 Then you did mention your wife's death telling. 12:27.640 --> 12:28.640 Yes, sir. 12:28.640 --> 12:33.080 Where you men are questioning me, your tone sounds as if you think I might have done this. 12:33.080 --> 12:36.120 No, sir, we're just trying to get the facts straight right now. 12:36.120 --> 12:37.120 Anybody's a suspect. 12:37.120 --> 12:38.120 I didn't do this. 12:38.120 --> 12:41.120 I swear to God, I didn't kill my wife. 12:41.120 --> 12:44.160 Do you have any idea who might have wanted to kill Mrs. Gray? 12:44.160 --> 12:45.160 No, no one. 12:45.160 --> 12:49.760 Hazel and I didn't have many friends, no enemies that I know of. 12:49.760 --> 12:50.760 I see. 12:50.760 --> 12:53.080 You men have any ideas at all? 12:53.080 --> 12:55.120 Can you tell anything from what you've seen? 12:55.120 --> 12:57.960 We might know a little more after the crime lab checks things over. 12:57.960 --> 13:01.320 As soon as the lab men get here, then you can start on the case. 13:01.320 --> 13:04.320 No, sir, we've already started. 13:04.320 --> 13:12.600 10, 15 p.m., we continued to question Leonard Gray, the husband of the dead woman, Hazel 13:12.600 --> 13:13.600 Gray. 13:13.600 --> 13:17.600 His answers seemed to follow the same general pattern of hazy confusion. 13:17.600 --> 13:21.480 Ben and I weighed the possibilities and cause for his evident confusion. 13:21.480 --> 13:25.120 He admitted that he'd been drinking earlier that evening, the tremendous shock of the 13:25.120 --> 13:29.760 death of his wife, the complete interrogation necessary in the investigation. 13:29.760 --> 13:34.200 All these things could prove to be reason enough for Leonard Gray's apparent confusion. 13:34.200 --> 13:36.840 They could all be possibilities of pretense as well. 13:36.840 --> 13:38.780 We had to be sure. 13:38.780 --> 13:40.960 We asked him about relatives and in-laws. 13:40.960 --> 13:44.740 He told us that his parents were not living, that his wife's mother and father resided 13:44.740 --> 13:47.560 in Los Angeles in the southwest section of the city. 13:47.560 --> 13:49.360 He gave us the address. 13:49.360 --> 13:52.160 He furnished us with a list of his friends and his acquaintances. 13:52.160 --> 13:56.960 He was feeling quite badly, but seemed to want us to continue with the questioning. 13:56.960 --> 14:00.360 From time to time, he would add unimportant bits of his story which he had omitted the 14:00.360 --> 14:02.000 first time through. 14:02.000 --> 14:06.800 Ten seventeen p.m. The crime lab crew arrived and went to work. 14:06.800 --> 14:09.840 Gray's friend Earl Anderson was picked up and brought to the murder house. 14:09.840 --> 14:11.720 Any idea who did this thing? 14:11.720 --> 14:13.200 We're working on it. 14:13.200 --> 14:15.640 There's just one thing I want to make sure of. 14:15.640 --> 14:16.640 Yeah? 14:16.640 --> 14:18.920 You don't suspect Len, do you? 14:18.920 --> 14:19.920 Why do you ask that? 14:19.920 --> 14:23.840 Well, I know how something like this can be. 14:23.840 --> 14:27.880 Len and Hazel are wonderful people, very good friends of mine. 14:27.880 --> 14:30.880 Just wanted to go on a record as being able to vouch for Len. 14:30.880 --> 14:33.360 He wouldn't do a thing like that. 14:33.360 --> 14:34.840 Is that what you wanted to tell her? 14:34.840 --> 14:35.840 Well, yes, sir. 14:35.840 --> 14:40.400 I've known Len for about five years now, going on six. 14:40.400 --> 14:42.920 We worked at the same place. 14:42.920 --> 14:44.920 Just wanted to vouch for him, that's all. 14:44.920 --> 14:47.840 Would you know of anyone who might have a reason to kill Mrs. Gray? 14:47.840 --> 14:50.640 Not a soul in the world. 14:50.640 --> 14:51.960 Hazel was wonderful to everybody. 14:51.960 --> 14:55.160 She didn't have any enemies that I know of. 14:55.160 --> 14:56.160 Such a pretty girl. 14:56.160 --> 14:58.800 We know that you're a close friend of Gray's. 14:58.800 --> 15:01.120 Maybe you'd be able to answer a couple of questions for us. 15:01.120 --> 15:03.800 Any way I can be of help to you. 15:03.800 --> 15:05.520 How did Mr. and Mrs. Gray seem to get along? 15:05.520 --> 15:08.240 I mean, did they have any arguments that you know of? 15:08.240 --> 15:12.080 Well, I really don't think I should go into their personal life in this thing. 15:12.080 --> 15:14.080 You mean you don't want to answer? 15:14.080 --> 15:16.320 No, sir, it's not that. 15:16.320 --> 15:20.320 It just seems that it's really not my place to go into it. 15:20.320 --> 15:24.320 We're going to have to question everybody that Gray's knew, all their friends and acquaintances, 15:24.320 --> 15:26.440 appreciate any help you could give us. 15:26.440 --> 15:29.040 Well, it isn't that I don't want to help. 15:29.040 --> 15:32.240 I know that if I answer, it's going to make Len look bad at the moment. 15:32.240 --> 15:35.560 We're going to have to get all the facts from one source or another. 15:35.560 --> 15:37.520 Well, they used to have some arguments. 15:37.520 --> 15:40.120 I guess you'd find it out from the neighbors anyway. 15:40.120 --> 15:42.440 Were the arguments that bad? 15:42.440 --> 15:43.440 Pretty loud, yes, sir. 15:43.440 --> 15:48.560 I don't mean to imply that Len ever struck Hazel, but she used to get quite put out with 15:48.560 --> 15:49.560 him sometimes. 15:49.560 --> 15:50.560 Why? 15:50.560 --> 15:51.560 How do you know? 15:51.560 --> 15:56.280 Len likes to go out with the boys, you know, booze it up quite a bit. 15:56.280 --> 15:59.000 You used to tell him if she wasn't going to put up with it any longer. 15:59.000 --> 16:00.920 You said he never struck her. 16:00.920 --> 16:02.320 Not that I know of, Sergeant. 16:02.320 --> 16:04.480 Do they have these arguments often? 16:04.480 --> 16:08.360 I don't feel right talking this way about Len behind his back. 16:08.360 --> 16:11.800 Well, I know that as his friend, you want to get this thing cleaned up. 16:11.800 --> 16:14.320 Yes, sir, that's right, I do. 16:14.320 --> 16:18.400 Yes, they used to have quite a few arguments. 16:18.400 --> 16:22.000 Please understand that these differences of theirs may have been loud, but I know Len 16:22.000 --> 16:24.400 would never think of hurting Hazel in any way. 16:24.400 --> 16:25.400 I don't see. 16:25.400 --> 16:28.040 Did you find out who sliced the tires on Len's car? 16:28.040 --> 16:29.040 We're checking on it. 16:29.040 --> 16:31.680 I wonder if that couldn't have some bearing on this. 16:31.680 --> 16:32.680 Possibly. 16:32.680 --> 16:36.720 Anderson, we'd like to have you go back to the time you and Mr. Gregg got home. 16:36.720 --> 16:38.680 Just tell us exactly what happened, would you? 16:38.680 --> 16:41.400 Excuse me for a minute. 16:41.400 --> 16:42.400 Sure. 16:42.400 --> 16:44.400 Friday, see you in a minute. 16:44.400 --> 16:45.400 Right, Harris. 16:45.400 --> 16:46.400 I'll be right back. 16:46.400 --> 16:47.400 Okay. 16:47.400 --> 16:49.840 We're just about through. 16:49.840 --> 16:51.840 It's all photod, lifted some prints. 16:51.840 --> 16:53.840 Karner's ready to take the body, okay? 16:53.840 --> 16:54.840 Yeah, it's all right. 16:54.840 --> 16:56.240 Get anything besides the prints? 16:56.240 --> 16:59.560 Yeah, a small piece of blue cloth, white button attached. 16:59.560 --> 17:00.560 Looks like it was ripped off his shirt. 17:00.560 --> 17:01.560 Where'd they find it? 17:01.560 --> 17:02.560 Near the body. 17:02.560 --> 17:05.000 I'm going to see you fellas back at the office, huh? 17:05.000 --> 17:08.200 Yeah, okay, Harris, thank you. 17:08.200 --> 17:15.040 I was just telling your partner, Sergeant, while you were out of the room. 17:15.040 --> 17:16.040 Yes, sir. 17:16.040 --> 17:20.640 In this kind of a case, if it turns out to be murder, you have to know the whereabouts 17:20.640 --> 17:22.240 of everyone concerned, don't you? 17:22.240 --> 17:23.240 Yeah, we do. 17:23.240 --> 17:27.000 I suppose Lem told you about his going down to get the tires fixed on his car. 17:27.000 --> 17:28.000 Yeah, he did. 17:28.000 --> 17:30.480 Did he tell you that I was at home during that time? 17:30.480 --> 17:31.480 Were you? 17:31.480 --> 17:32.480 Yeah, I was. 17:32.480 --> 17:37.560 I don't mean to try to tell you your business or anything like that, but isn't that the 17:37.560 --> 17:39.240 sort of information you have to have? 17:39.240 --> 17:40.240 Yeah, that's right. 17:40.240 --> 17:42.480 Is there anything else you'd like to know? 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20:18.240 --> 20:22.880 Earl Anderson, his friend, was checked and found to be a completely reliable man. 20:22.880 --> 20:27.200 We talked with the repairman at the garage where Gray had his tires exchanged. 20:27.200 --> 20:29.840 His story was correct in every detail. 20:29.840 --> 20:32.120 Earl Anderson's wife was checked. 20:32.120 --> 20:34.840 She vouched for the Grays as well as her husband. 20:34.840 --> 20:39.640 Ben and I talked with Captain Steed for an hour, 1.45 a.m. 20:39.640 --> 20:44.360 Well, Skipper seems to feel like I do about it. 20:44.360 --> 20:46.040 Yeah, my husband Gray, huh? 20:46.040 --> 20:47.400 Sure looks that way, doesn't it? 20:47.400 --> 20:50.640 We've been over that story three times with him and we get three different versions. 20:50.640 --> 20:51.640 Yeah, I know. 20:51.640 --> 20:52.640 It's completely sober now. 20:52.640 --> 20:54.280 He should be able to tell a straight story. 20:54.280 --> 20:55.880 I don't know, Joe. 20:55.880 --> 20:58.040 Yeah, well, I'm not completely satisfied. 20:58.040 --> 20:59.720 As far as that goes, the captain isn't either. 20:59.720 --> 21:00.720 You heard him. 21:00.720 --> 21:02.880 I'll admit Gray looks bad right now. 21:02.880 --> 21:03.880 What are you saying? 21:03.880 --> 21:04.880 I don't know. 21:04.880 --> 21:05.880 I'm gonna. 21:05.880 --> 21:06.880 All right. 21:06.880 --> 21:07.880 Homicide Romero. 21:07.880 --> 21:08.880 Yeah, Edwin. 21:08.880 --> 21:09.880 No, Joe's right here. 21:09.880 --> 21:10.880 You want to talk with him? 21:10.880 --> 21:11.880 Oh, fine, yeah. 21:11.880 --> 21:12.880 Yeah, go ahead. 21:12.880 --> 21:13.880 Oh, yeah. 21:13.880 --> 21:14.880 Okay, thanks, Bob. 21:14.880 --> 21:15.880 George, a juvenile. 21:15.880 --> 21:16.880 Yeah? 21:16.880 --> 21:17.880 Picked up a couple of kids. 21:17.880 --> 21:18.880 They confessed to slashing the Grays' tires. 21:18.880 --> 21:19.880 Well, it clears that up. 21:19.880 --> 21:20.880 Didn't seem to figure it anyway. 21:20.880 --> 21:21.880 Did it to you? 21:21.880 --> 21:22.880 No. 21:22.880 --> 21:23.880 Somebody did it to draw Gray out of the house. 21:23.880 --> 21:24.880 I don't know. 21:24.880 --> 21:25.880 I don't know. 21:25.880 --> 21:26.880 I don't know. 21:26.880 --> 21:27.880 I don't know. 21:27.880 --> 21:28.880 I don't know. 21:28.880 --> 21:29.880 I don't know. 21:29.880 --> 21:30.880 They said they'd draw Gray out of the house. 21:30.880 --> 21:32.880 Well, it's cutting it pretty thin, isn't it? 21:32.880 --> 21:33.880 Yeah. 21:33.880 --> 21:34.880 What's the time? 21:34.880 --> 21:35.880 10 minutes to two. 21:35.880 --> 21:38.880 Guess I better call Leighton Prince and see what they got. 21:38.880 --> 21:39.880 Okay. 21:39.880 --> 21:43.880 Did Edward say that they were gonna hold those juveniles for us? 21:43.880 --> 21:46.880 Yeah, I said they were bringing them down here for interrogation. 21:46.880 --> 21:47.880 Okay. 21:47.880 --> 21:48.880 Well, hi. 21:48.880 --> 21:49.880 Hi, Mac. 21:49.880 --> 21:50.880 Romero. 21:50.880 --> 21:51.880 Yeah. 21:51.880 --> 21:52.880 Uh-huh, good. 21:52.880 --> 21:53.880 Yeah, right, thanks. 21:53.880 --> 21:54.880 Yeah. 21:54.880 --> 21:55.880 You got something? 21:55.880 --> 21:56.880 What'd he say? 21:56.880 --> 21:59.880 One of the prints they left out there is a palm print. 21:59.880 --> 22:01.880 McGloffin says it'll work for elimination. 22:01.880 --> 22:02.880 Something else. 22:02.880 --> 22:03.880 Yeah. 22:03.880 --> 22:10.880 The print was pressed in spots of blood. 22:10.880 --> 22:15.880 The killer of Hazel Gray had left behind him a clue to his identity about which there could 22:15.880 --> 22:18.880 be no mistake, his palm print. 22:18.880 --> 22:21.880 The prints of the dead woman, Hazel Gray, were checked and eliminated. 22:21.880 --> 22:22.880 They weren't hers. 22:22.880 --> 22:27.880 2.40 a.m. Leonard Gray and his friend Earl Anderson were taken down and fingerprinted. 22:27.880 --> 22:29.880 Their palm prints were also taken. 22:29.880 --> 22:31.880 Both men were returned to the interrogation room. 22:31.880 --> 22:34.880 Sergeant, why do we have to be fingerprinted? 22:34.880 --> 22:35.880 Just routine. 22:35.880 --> 22:37.880 Just like I was telling you, Sergeant, righty? 22:37.880 --> 22:38.880 What's that? 22:38.880 --> 22:40.880 Len and I have been suspects all along, haven't we? 22:40.880 --> 22:42.880 Well, it's just a matter of elimination. 22:42.880 --> 22:44.880 Anybody involved in any way has to be checked out. 22:44.880 --> 22:46.880 Didn't the fellow down at the garage verify Len's story? 22:46.880 --> 22:47.880 Yes, sir, he did. 22:47.880 --> 22:48.880 It's the truth. 22:48.880 --> 22:52.880 I wouldn't lie at a time like this. 22:52.880 --> 22:54.880 I don't believe that anybody thinks you're lying, Len. 22:54.880 --> 22:56.880 It's just they have to be sure. 22:56.880 --> 22:57.880 That's right. 22:57.880 --> 22:58.880 Again. 22:58.880 --> 23:00.880 Interrogation room. 23:00.880 --> 23:02.880 This is Romero. 23:02.880 --> 23:04.880 Oh, yeah, right. 23:04.880 --> 23:06.880 Okay, right away. 23:06.880 --> 23:07.880 Crime lab joke. 23:07.880 --> 23:09.880 Finger says he and Jones would like to see one of us right away. 23:09.880 --> 23:10.880 All right, you want to go? 23:10.880 --> 23:11.880 Yeah, I'll be right back. 23:11.880 --> 23:13.880 Okay. 23:13.880 --> 23:17.880 Sergeant, was there really any specific reason for us being fingerprinted? 23:17.880 --> 23:19.880 Well, we already told you, it's just routine. 23:19.880 --> 23:23.880 Wouldn't it be perfectly in line to find Len's fingerprints around his own house? 23:23.880 --> 23:24.880 Well, yes, it would. 23:24.880 --> 23:26.880 Yours could be there, too, Earl. 23:26.880 --> 23:27.880 Yeah, I was going to say that. 23:27.880 --> 23:29.880 I'm over at their house a great deal of the time. 23:29.880 --> 23:31.880 Yeah, we know you mentioned that. 23:31.880 --> 23:33.880 Makes you feel kind of funny getting fingerprinted. 23:33.880 --> 23:37.880 It doesn't make any difference what I have to go through if you can find who did this thing. 23:37.880 --> 23:39.880 I feel the same way, Len. 23:39.880 --> 23:41.880 Think you're any closer to knowing who did it? 23:41.880 --> 23:42.880 Well, possibly. 23:42.880 --> 23:44.880 You men have had a little time to think this over. 23:44.880 --> 23:48.880 Do either of you have anything to add to your story, maybe some small detail you may have overlooked? 23:48.880 --> 23:50.880 I've been thinking about it all night. 23:50.880 --> 23:53.880 I can't think of anything I haven't already told you. 23:53.880 --> 23:54.880 Mm-hmm. 23:54.880 --> 23:55.880 You, Mr. Anderson? 23:55.880 --> 23:56.880 Hmm? 23:56.880 --> 23:58.880 Is there anything that you might have forgotten to tell us? 23:58.880 --> 24:00.880 Sorry, I was just thinking. 24:00.880 --> 24:01.880 Yes, sir? 24:01.880 --> 24:04.880 There couldn't have been anyone Hazel knew, could there, Len? 24:04.880 --> 24:05.880 How do you mean? 24:05.880 --> 24:09.880 Well, somebody maybe from her past, somebody she might not have told you about. 24:09.880 --> 24:11.880 I don't see how that could be possible. 24:11.880 --> 24:14.880 You people checked your father and mother, didn't you? 24:14.880 --> 24:15.880 Yes, sir, we did. 24:15.880 --> 24:17.880 Well, that eliminates that possibility. 24:17.880 --> 24:21.880 Haven't you found any way at all to tell them who it was that killed Hazel? 24:21.880 --> 24:22.880 Yeah, we have. 24:22.880 --> 24:24.880 Well, I think that Len here is entitled to know. 24:24.880 --> 24:27.880 I'd be glad to leave the room if you want to talk to him alone. 24:27.880 --> 24:28.880 No, sir, that's not necessary. 24:28.880 --> 24:30.880 When we work it out, you'll both be told about it. 24:30.880 --> 24:33.880 If there's something definite, you'd tell me, wouldn't you? 24:33.880 --> 24:34.880 I think Earl's right. 24:34.880 --> 24:35.880 I'm entitled to know. 24:35.880 --> 24:37.880 Well, sir, we're assigned to the investigation, Mr. Gray, 24:37.880 --> 24:40.880 and we're doing everything that we can to get to the bottom of it. 24:40.880 --> 24:44.880 Sergeant Len and I think you men know a great deal more than you've been telling them. 24:44.880 --> 24:45.880 His wife was a victim. 24:45.880 --> 24:48.880 It's his right to know how the investigation's going, isn't it? 24:48.880 --> 24:51.880 Well, I told you before, whatever he should know, we'll tell him. 24:51.880 --> 24:54.880 Anything that we withhold from him is done for a good reason. 24:56.880 --> 24:58.880 Joe, want to take a look at this? 24:58.880 --> 24:59.880 Yeah, thanks. 24:59.880 --> 25:00.880 Here you are. 25:02.880 --> 25:03.880 Here's your report on it. 25:03.880 --> 25:10.880 Oh, thank you. 25:15.880 --> 25:17.880 That shirt belonged to either of you men? 25:17.880 --> 25:18.880 It's not mine. 25:18.880 --> 25:20.880 No, why? What's it mean? 25:20.880 --> 25:22.880 I get it. 25:23.880 --> 25:25.880 Terrogation Room, Friday. 25:25.880 --> 25:26.880 Yeti. 25:28.880 --> 25:30.880 Right, thank you. 25:30.880 --> 25:33.880 What about that shirt, Sergeant? What's it mean? 25:33.880 --> 25:37.880 This button here, a little piece of cloth attached, found by the body. 25:38.880 --> 25:41.880 You notice the front of the shirt here, button ripped off? 25:41.880 --> 25:43.880 See how it matches? 25:43.880 --> 25:45.880 Yeah, it's not my shirt. 25:45.880 --> 25:46.880 It was found in your house. 25:46.880 --> 25:48.880 I never saw it before. It's not mine. 25:48.880 --> 25:49.880 The palm print was. 25:49.880 --> 25:50.880 What? 25:50.880 --> 25:51.880 The print of your palm. 25:51.880 --> 25:53.880 Blood stains on it. It was found near the body. 25:53.880 --> 25:56.880 What are you talking about, Earl? What's he mean? 25:56.880 --> 25:58.880 I killed Hazel. 25:58.880 --> 26:00.880 What? 26:00.880 --> 26:02.880 I killed Hazel. 26:03.880 --> 26:05.880 Why? 26:07.880 --> 26:09.880 Because I loved her. 26:09.880 --> 26:11.880 I think I loved her more than you did. 26:12.880 --> 26:15.880 You don't kill someone because you love them. 26:15.880 --> 26:17.880 You do if you love them enough. 26:17.880 --> 26:19.880 You ready to give us a statement, Anderson? 26:19.880 --> 26:21.880 Yeah, I'll tell you. 26:21.880 --> 26:23.880 I can't believe all this. 26:23.880 --> 26:25.880 I can't believe all this. 26:26.880 --> 26:27.880 I'm going to kill you. 26:27.880 --> 26:29.880 All right, Gray, hold it. 26:30.880 --> 26:33.880 I can't believe it. My best friend. 26:34.880 --> 26:36.880 I wasn't your best friend. 26:44.880 --> 26:46.880 The story you have just heard was true. 26:46.880 --> 26:49.880 Only the names were changed to protect the innocent. 26:49.880 --> 26:53.880 On April 4th, trial was held in Superior Court, Department 89, 26:53.880 --> 26:55.880 City and County of Los Angeles, State of California. 26:55.880 --> 26:57.880 In a moment, the results of that trial. 26:58.880 --> 27:00.880 And now here is our star, Jack Webb. 27:00.880 --> 27:01.880 Thank you. 27:01.880 --> 27:04.880 Friends, let me tell you how to size up king-size cigarettes. 27:04.880 --> 27:08.880 First, take a Fatima, and then any other king-size cigarette. 27:08.880 --> 27:12.880 Side by side, the two may seem to look alike, but they're not. 27:12.880 --> 27:16.880 Because no other king-size cigarette has Fatima quality. 27:16.880 --> 27:17.880 That's right. 27:17.880 --> 27:20.880 In Fatima, the difference is quality. 27:20.880 --> 27:23.880 Quality that starts with a blend of the finest domestic and Turkish tobaccos, 27:23.880 --> 27:27.880 and follows up with extra mildness, a better flavor and aroma. 27:27.880 --> 27:30.880 Now, if you haven't tried Fatimas yet, take my advice. 27:30.880 --> 27:32.880 Buy a pack. 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