1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,040 Ladies and gentlemen, Crime Prevention Week, now being observed nationally, is designed 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,480 for one purpose, to emphasize that crime is your personal enemy. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:16,080 It costs money and lives, it weakens the moral and physical strength of your community. 4 00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:21,480 Show your respect for the law by cooperating with your police officer 52 weeks a year. 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:32,160 Join the fight to stamp out crime, the ally of treason. 6 00:00:32,160 --> 00:00:35,160 The story you are about to hear is true. 7 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:38,040 Only the names have been changed to protect the innocent. 8 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:51,400 Fatima cigarettes, best of all long cigarettes, brings you dragnet. 9 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,040 You're a detective sergeant, you're assigned to bunko detail. 10 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:00,320 A husband and wife confidence team has shifted operations to your city. 11 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,080 Their criminal record dates back 17 years. 12 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,160 They're masters in the art of swindling. 13 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:11,840 Your job, get them. 14 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,760 You'll be amazed when you compare Fatima with other long cigarettes. 15 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,880 You'll find they now cost the same. 16 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,880 But in Fatima, the difference is quality. 17 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:30,260 You see, Fatima is the quality king size cigarette because it contains the finest domestic and 18 00:01:30,260 --> 00:01:33,560 Turkish tobacco superbly blended. 19 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:39,920 And Fatima is extra mild, with a much different, much better flavor and aroma than any other 20 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,320 long cigarette. 21 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:43,560 So compare Fatima yourself. 22 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:50,560 Fatima's now cost the same as other long cigarettes, but your first pop will tell you. 23 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,560 Ah, that's different. 24 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,400 Yes, in Fatima, the difference is quality. 25 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:02,880 Ask your dealer for Fatima, the quality king size cigarette. 26 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,900 Best of all long cigarettes. 27 00:02:05,900 --> 00:02:14,240 And enjoying Fatima tomorrow. 28 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,080 Dragnet, the documented drama of an actual crime. 29 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:22,080 For the next 30 minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will 30 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,600 travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official 31 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,600 police files. 32 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:33,680 From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is the story of your police force 33 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:34,680 in action. 34 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,440 It was Monday, April 20th. 35 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,200 It was windy in Los Angeles. 36 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,680 We were working the day watch out of bunko detail. 37 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,360 My partner's Ben Romero. 38 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,360 The boss is Captain McCauley. 39 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,360 My name's Friday. 40 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,920 We were on the way out from the office and it was 10.35 a.m. when we got to the Holy 41 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:53,920 Gospel Tabernacle. 42 00:02:53,920 --> 00:03:00,280 The pastor's house. 43 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,560 Look at that palm tree. 44 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:02,560 Yeah. 45 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,680 Windstorm sure didn't do it any good. 46 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,040 It was really blowing last night. 47 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,400 It woke me up a couple of times. 48 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,400 Yeah, not me. 49 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:09,400 I slept like a baby. 50 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:16,960 What'd you say the name here was, Olsen? 51 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,960 We got it right here. 52 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,960 Reverend Andrew Olsen. 53 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,960 Doesn't seem to be anybody home. 54 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,960 I'll try it again. 55 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:32,960 Huh? 56 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,400 We said on the phone he'd either be here at the church. 57 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,400 Where's that? 58 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,400 Just around the corner. 59 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:39,400 Faces on South Spring. 60 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:45,840 Not a very wealthy looking neighborhood. 61 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,960 There must be the church up there. 62 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,920 Sure could stand a coat of paint. 63 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,520 Grounds are well kept, aren't they? 64 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:58,520 Nice flower beds. 65 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,520 Look at that. 66 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:00,520 Giant pansies. 67 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,200 Tried some in the backyard last year. 68 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,200 Too bad. 69 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,200 What do you mean? 70 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,200 Giant snails. 71 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,200 I sliced them right off at the roots. 72 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:15,200 Yes, that must be him up at the front. 73 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,200 Better close the door, huh? 74 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,200 Oh, yeah. 75 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,200 Come on. 76 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:29,200 Excuse me, sir? 77 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,560 Oh, didn't see you. 78 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:33,560 You the Reverend Olsen? 79 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:34,960 Yes, can I help you? 80 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:35,960 My name's Friday, Reverend. 81 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:36,960 I talked to you on the phone. 82 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:37,960 Oh, yes, Sergeant. 83 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:38,960 And this is my partner, Sergeant Romero. 84 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:39,960 How do you do? 85 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:40,960 How are you? 86 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:41,960 Had a night. 87 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:42,960 Sergeant Marrow? 88 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:43,960 Oh, that's Romero, Reverend. 89 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,280 Oh, excuse me, Romero. 90 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:47,280 Didn't expect you so soon. 91 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:49,280 A little busy here fixing the pulpit. 92 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:51,280 It happened last Sunday. 93 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:52,280 What's that, Rimmer? 94 00:04:52,280 --> 00:04:54,480 I guess I got carried away with my sermon. 95 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:55,480 Quite a commotion. 96 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,480 Oh? 97 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,480 I leaned forward in the pulpit. 98 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,160 This whole section here just splintered and broke right off. 99 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,160 Ruined my whole sermon. 100 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,880 Well, I can finish this up later. 101 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:05,880 Have a chair there, officers. 102 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:06,880 No, thanks very much. 103 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,880 Well, there it is, Sergeant. 104 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,880 The names, descriptions. 105 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,880 Mr. and Mrs. Tom Herbert. 106 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,680 That's the name they used anyway. 107 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,240 Would you mind briefing us on how it happened, Reverend? 108 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,000 When did you first meet this couple? 109 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,040 They came to us a little over a month ago. 110 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,920 They didn't have any reason to be suspicious. 111 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,680 Mr. Herbert showed me some fine references. 112 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,520 I didn't think it was necessary to check them. 113 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,920 What kind of approach did they use, could you tell us? 114 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,120 On the first visit, Mrs. Herbert did most of the talking. 115 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,040 She told me she and her husband wanted to write a history of our church. 116 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,480 It was supposed to be part of an historical book on all the churches in the county. 117 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,360 Naturally, I felt a little flattered about it. 118 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,600 Did this Mr. and Mrs. Herbert make any demands for money or to write about your church, I 119 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:55,600 mean? 120 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,200 There was no money involved at first. 121 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,880 They said all they wanted was our cooperation in doing some of the research work. 122 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,200 You know, looking up dates, names, things like that. 123 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,200 Oh, I see. 124 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,960 They seemed very sincere, both of them. 125 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:09,960 Didn't drink, smoke. 126 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,840 They worked very hard during the search and writing. 127 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:14,840 I don't know why they had to change. 128 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:17,560 It would have been nice having history written about our church. 129 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:18,560 Yes, sir. 130 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,600 When did they first bring up the idea of money? 131 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,760 Well, Mr. Herbert came to me one day and showed me this letter. 132 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,920 It was supposed to be from the people who were going to publish the history of our church. 133 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,840 The letters said, well, because of certain business reasons, the whole thing was off. 134 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:34,840 They couldn't publish the book. 135 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:36,080 Mr. Herbert acted very sorry. 136 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,200 Did he leave that letter with you, Reverend? 137 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,240 No, he took it with him. 138 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,840 I felt badly about the whole thing. 139 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:44,840 They were doing all that work and then the book not being published. 140 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:45,840 Mm-hmm. 141 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:48,960 Did the Herbert's bros the idea of you and the church putting up the money to print the 142 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:49,960 book? 143 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:50,960 Well, no. 144 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,240 Not exactly, but I guess they gave me the idea. 145 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,240 How do you mean? 146 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,400 They suggested that I talk it over with the church board, so I did. 147 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,880 We all agreed it would be a shame to give up the idea of the book after so much work 148 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:02,880 had gone into it. 149 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,320 Is that when you agreed to finance the book? 150 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,600 Well, the board and I did, yes. 151 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,080 It's all my fault, though. 152 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,080 I helped to persuade them. 153 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,640 And the money came out of church funds, is that it? 154 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,200 As a matter of fact, it didn't. 155 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:19,120 Well, they have a small operating fund, so you can see we're a small church. 156 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,120 Congregation isn't wealthy. 157 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,120 And where did the money come from, sir? 158 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:27,640 Well, for one thing, the ladies of the altar society put on a Sunday afternoon ham dinner. 159 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,800 It made some money, and then the Herbots suggested we help sell advertising to pay part of the 160 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,320 cost, so we did that, too. 161 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,680 But still wasn't enough. 162 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,760 Well, exactly how much did you turn over to the Herbots? 163 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:38,760 $804.61. 164 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,440 I had to borrow $350 from the bank to make it. 165 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,880 It'll all have to be paid back. 166 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,600 People who paid for their advertising, too. 167 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,680 It'll all have to come out of our pocket. 168 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,680 It's a terrible thing. 169 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:51,680 Yes, sir, it is. 170 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:52,680 Terrible. 171 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,120 I don't know what I'm going to do. 172 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,800 Hate to ask the congregation for it. 173 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,360 Their offerings have always been so generous, and they're not wealthy either. 174 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,360 They're just working people. 175 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,120 When was the last time that you heard from this Mr. and Mrs. Herbert? 176 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,680 A week ago, I guess. 177 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,200 Yes, it was last Monday. 178 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,320 I got anxious and called them at their hotel. 179 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:12,320 It's on South Grand. 180 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,320 I can give you the address. 181 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,320 They told me when the books would be ready. 182 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,320 They said it would be on Tuesday. 183 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,320 That's the last I heard of them. 184 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,760 No forwarding address, no other place that you think we might find them. 185 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:24,760 No, I'm sorry. 186 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,000 I just don't have any idea. 187 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,360 So hard to believe anyone would do such a thing to us. 188 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:31,360 Yes, sir. 189 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,360 I wonder if we could have the address of their hotel. 190 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,360 Yes, all right. 191 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,360 If you'll come with me, I have it over at the house. 192 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,360 Did Mr. and Mrs. Herbert have a car? 193 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,360 Do you know, Reverend? 194 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,360 I don't think so. 195 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:41,360 If they did, I never saw it. 196 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,360 I don't know what I'm going to tell the congregation. 197 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,360 $800, that's a lot of money to our people. 198 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,360 Yes, sir. 199 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:56,480 Tell me, Sergeant, I don't mean to be uncharitable, but Mr. and Mrs. Herbert, do they have a criminal 200 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:57,480 record? 201 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,480 Have they done this sort of thing before? 202 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,360 Well, their descriptions seem to fit a couple that we've been looking for. 203 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,640 They've been working the churches in this area on and off for a couple of years now. 204 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,960 I can't understand why they do such a thing. 205 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,960 It's almost like robbing a poor box. 206 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,960 Yes, sir, they've done that too. 207 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:13,960 1115 a.m. 208 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,480 We went back to the city hall and pulled a package on the suspects, Mr. and Mrs. Tom 209 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:19,480 Herbert. 210 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,800 They were a veteran man and wife confidence team who'd worked the Los Angeles area and 211 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,160 other large cities around the country. 212 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,840 Their specialty seemed to be swindling churches and clergymen. 213 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,960 Over a period of 17 years, they'd piled up a long record involving frauds and various 214 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,840 bunko games, but they'd only been brought to trial once. 215 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,800 The case had been dismissed for lack of sufficient evidence. 216 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,840 1135 a.m. 217 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,880 We took mug shots of Mr. and Mrs. Herbert out to the Reverend Olson, and he identified 218 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:47,880 them. 219 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,160 We went to the hotel on South Grand where they'd been staying, no leads. 220 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,160 We got out a local broadcast and an APB on them. 221 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,520 Together with the sheriff's office, we sent a special bulletin about the Herberts to the 222 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,160 pastors of the different churches in the city and county. 223 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,760 From the list of names on the Marmots sheet, we began checking out all the known friends 224 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,960 and relatives of the suspects. 225 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,920 One of them was a Clyde Harris, proprietor of a physical culture school out in the Wilshire 226 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:12,920 District. 227 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:25,120 1 p.m. Tuesday, we drove out to talk to him. 228 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,120 Which way, Joe? 229 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,720 Right down the street, the blue and white signage. 230 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,720 Oh, yeah. 231 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,880 Venus School of Physical Culture. 232 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,760 I can make you an all-American girl, Clyde Harris manager. 233 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,920 This looks like the office here. 234 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,520 No, we're supposed to meet him in the gym. 235 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:42,520 That's next door. 236 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:43,520 I don't know. 237 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:44,520 Yeah, here. 238 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:45,520 No, go ahead. 239 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:46,520 Oh, yeah. 240 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:47,520 It's back this way, I guess. 241 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:48,520 All right, now. 242 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:49,520 90 gun face, all together with me. 243 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:50,520 One, two, three, four. 244 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,520 Extend. 245 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,520 And hold. 246 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:53,520 Down. 247 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:54,520 Extend. 248 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:55,520 And hold. 249 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:56,520 Down. 250 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:57,520 With me. 251 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,520 Hold. 252 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:59,520 Down. 253 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:00,520 Come on. 254 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:01,520 All together. 255 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:02,520 Let's go. 256 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:03,520 And hold. 257 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:04,520 Down. 258 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:05,520 Come on. 259 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:06,520 Come on. 260 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:07,520 And hold. 261 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:08,520 Down. 262 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,520 Come on. 263 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:10,520 Hold. 264 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:11,520 Down. 265 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,520 One, two, three, four. 266 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,520 And four. 267 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:17,520 Four, down. 268 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,520 One, two, four, down. 269 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,520 One, two, three, four. 270 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,520 Ten, ten, four, down. 271 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,520 Four, one. 272 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:29,520 Hold it a minute. 273 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,520 No, I'm sorry, Mrs. Tollison. 274 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:32,520 You're doing it wrong. 275 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:33,520 Your pelvis is all out of position. 276 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,520 Excuse me, are you Clyde Harris? 277 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:36,520 Yes, did you want something? 278 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:37,520 Police officer, sir, Harris. 279 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:38,520 Like to talk to you? 280 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,520 Oh, yeah, officer. 281 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:40,520 Could you hold on a half a minute? 282 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:41,520 Sure, go right ahead. 283 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,520 Francis, Francis, would you take over here for a few minutes? 284 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,520 I have to talk to these gentlemen. 285 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,520 Ladies, Francis is going to count for you for a while. 286 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:48,520 You go right ahead with the lesson. 287 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,520 I'll be back in a few minutes. 288 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:55,520 Back here, officers. 289 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:56,520 Won't take too long, will it? 290 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:57,520 No, sir, just a few minutes. 291 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,520 Sorry to interrupt your lesson. 292 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:00,520 It's all right. 293 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,520 I just want to have the ladies thinking I neglected them. 294 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,520 They pay good money for these exercises. 295 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,520 Yeah. 296 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:07,520 Here you are. Have a chair. 297 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,520 Thank you. 298 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,520 You said something about Tom Herbert on the phone, Sergeant. 299 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:14,520 What's it all about? 300 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,520 We understand that you're a friend of the Herberts, Mr. Harris. 301 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,520 Yeah, I knew Tom and Doris a couple of years back. 302 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,520 Haven't seen much of them lately. 303 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:21,520 When was the last time you saw them? 304 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,520 Let's see, it must be two, three months anyway. 305 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:25,520 Anything wrong? 306 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:26,520 Well, do you know where we could locate them? 307 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,520 I don't know for sure. 308 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,520 Last time I saw them, they were at a hotel downtown in South Grand, I think. 309 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,520 You know, South Grand right near Peacock. 310 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,520 We have no idea where they moved when they left there. 311 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,520 No, I didn't even know they'd moved. 312 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,520 They haven't phoned or contacted you at all in the last month or so. 313 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:41,520 No, not a word. 314 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,520 They're not in a jam again, are they? 315 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:44,520 We'd like to talk to them, that's all. 316 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,520 Would you know of any of their favorite spots around town? 317 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:47,520 Eating, drinking places? 318 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,520 No, I don't think I could say. 319 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:50,520 They got around quite a bit. 320 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,520 You checked with some of their other friends around town, 321 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,520 the Pattons, the Thompson's, Mike Runyon. 322 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:56,520 What was that last one? 323 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,520 Mike Runyon, very good friend of the Herberts. 324 00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:59,520 Ben? 325 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:00,520 No, I don't recall the name. 326 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,520 Well, how could we get in touch with this Runyon, Mr. Harris? 327 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,520 He's got a phone, come on in the office, we'll call him if you'd like. 328 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:07,520 Yeah, thank you very much. 329 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,520 I'll get Mike on the line for you, introduce you. 330 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,520 Would you mind talking to him, Harris? 331 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,520 Don't tell him it's for us, just ask if he knows where the Herberts are. 332 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,520 Would you mind? 333 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:23,520 Yeah, all right. 334 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:28,520 No answer. 335 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:29,520 Maybe... 336 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:30,520 Hello, Mike. 337 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:31,520 Clyde Harris, Mike. 338 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,520 Yeah, how are you? Fine. 339 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,520 Fine? 340 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:35,520 Yeah, a long time. 341 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,520 Say, Mike, you any idea where Tom and Doris Herbert are? 342 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:40,520 Mm-hmm. 343 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:41,520 Is that right? 344 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:43,520 How about that, huh? 345 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,520 What are you doing? 346 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,520 No, that's okay, it's not important. 347 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,520 Sure thing, Mike, make it soon, huh? 348 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:50,520 Right. 349 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:51,520 Goodbye. 350 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:52,520 Yep. 351 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,520 No, he doesn't know where the Herberts are staying. 352 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,520 Saw them a week ago out in Hollywood, though, says they're doing fine. 353 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,520 How do you mean? 354 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,520 Ran into them outside that big church on Hollywood Boulevard, 355 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,520 they told Mike all about it, they really got religion. 356 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:04,520 That's how? 357 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,520 Yeah, they're even writing a book about the church. 358 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,520 We called back Mike Runyon, a friend of the suspect, 359 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,520 and he gave us the location of the church where he'd seen Mr. and Mrs. Herbert. 360 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,520 Ben and I drove out there and talked to the pastor, Reverend John Kenworth. 361 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,520 We showed him the Herberts' mugshots and he identified them. 362 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,520 They were going under the name of Williams, 363 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,520 and supposedly they were writing a book about the history of the church. 364 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,520 To cover publishing expenses and research, 365 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,520 more than $1,000 from Perry's contributions 366 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,520 had been placed in a separate account at a local bank. 367 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,520 Reverend Kenworth told us that it was a special joint account 368 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,520 and the Herberts had access to it. 369 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,520 Ben got on the phone and called the bank. 370 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,520 How's that? 371 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,520 Yes, yes, sir. 372 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:46,520 Uh-huh. 373 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,520 Yeah, all right, thank you. 374 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,520 What'd they say? 375 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,520 The two of them were in the bank yesterday, they didn't draw out everything. 376 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:54,520 How much did they leave? 377 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,520 $3. 378 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,520 Ben and I checked with the teller at the bank 379 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,520 and showed him mugshots of Mr. and Mrs. Herbert. 380 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,520 He identified them as the couple who'd withdrawn the church funds. 381 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,520 We went to the hotel address the suspects had given to Reverend Kenworth. 382 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,520 They'd checked out two days before. 383 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,520 The search went on. 384 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,520 Two weeks passed, we ran out of leads. 385 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,520 No further reports on the couple. 386 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,520 A month went by. 387 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,520 Tuesday, May 23rd, 388 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,520 we got a P.B. from San Francisco on a couple answering the Herberts' description. 389 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,520 They were still working the church angle. 390 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,520 During the next six weeks, we got reports on them from Washington, Oregon, 391 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,520 Nevada, and Northern California. 392 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,520 In Sacramento, they apparently changed their M.O. for the first time. 393 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,520 They started selling phony health insurance policies. 394 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,520 They promised everything and they had a lot of takers. 395 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,520 One of the big selling points was a clause which promised full protection 396 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,520 if anybody in the family should come down with polio. 397 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,520 From Sacramento, they headed south to Oakland and then to Fresno. 398 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,520 On July 10th, the complaints started to come in and we knew the Herberts had moved 399 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,520 into Los Angeles with their health insurance racket. 400 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,520 One of the first victims was a Carl Fogarty. 401 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,520 He lived out in the Westlake area. 402 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,520 There's a policy they gave me, sir. 403 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,520 Apex health insurance. 404 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,520 Not worth the paper it's printed on. 405 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,520 When did they sell you this, Mr. Fogarty? You remember? 406 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,520 Three weeks ago, I guess. 407 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,520 Never would have known it was phony if my boy hadn't come down with polio. 408 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,520 How's he getting along? 409 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,520 Too good. Right leg. He's got it bad there. 410 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,520 It's not as if we don't have enough grief. 411 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,520 We've got to lose out on this bum insurance. 412 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,520 You mind if I take a look at that policy, sir? 413 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,520 No. Go ahead. Here you are. 414 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,520 Thanks, sir. 415 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:39,520 Same outfit, Joe. Apex health insurance. Same phony address. 416 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,520 Would you remember the man who sold you this, do you think? 417 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,520 I think I would, yeah. 418 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,520 I wonder if you'd mind looking through these pictures, Mr. Fogarty? 419 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,520 Not at all. 420 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,520 Just look at them carefully, if you will. 421 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,520 Mm-hmm. 422 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,520 Mm-hmm. 423 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,520 Yeah. That's him. I remember. Who's he? 424 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,520 His name's Herbert. 425 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,520 When he came in to sell you this policy, was he alone? 426 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,520 Yeah, he was. Had a real good sales talk. 427 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,520 How much did you pay for the insurance? 428 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,520 Let me see. $43.00 and some odd cents. 429 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,520 I remember that because I cashed him a war bond, 430 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,520 and then I took $5.00 out of the rent money. 431 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,520 Outside of this policy here, you have no other papers 432 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,520 that the man might have given you? 433 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,520 No, nothing but this business card here. 434 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,520 He gave me that. 435 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,520 You see here, the same name, Apex Health Insurance. 436 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,520 Yeah. 437 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,520 Well, thank you very much, Mr. Fogarty. 438 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,520 We hope your little boy pulls out of it all right. 439 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,520 Yeah, thanks. 440 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,520 All right, sir. Anything we can do, give us a call. 441 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,520 Sure, okay. 442 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,520 About time we checked the office, huh? 443 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,520 I think so. Do you have a phone here, Mr. Fogarty? 444 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,520 Oh, yeah, Sergeant. Straight back in the hallway. 445 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Help yourself. Thank you very much. 446 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,520 2572. 447 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,520 Yeah, that's right. 448 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,520 Yeah, Fred, Joe Friday. 449 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,520 Anything for us in the book? 450 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,520 Hmm? West 7th. 451 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,520 Yeah, okay. 452 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,520 Right, thanks, Fred. 453 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,520 Anything doing? 454 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,520 It looks pretty good. The office got a call from a printing shop 455 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,520 out on West 7th. The manager's got an order he's not too sure about. 456 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,520 How do you mean? 457 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,520 It's for a batch of letterhead stationery, business cards. 458 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,520 Yeah? 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Best of all long cigarettes. 480 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,520 Wednesday, July 10th, 4 p.m. 481 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:14,520 Ben and I drove back downtown to the printing shop on West 7th Street and talked with the manager. 482 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,520 He told us that the order for stationery and business cards for the Apex Health Insurance Company 483 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,520 had been placed two days before. 484 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:26,520 He said he'd become suspicious after reading a story in one of the newspapers about the polio insurance fraud. 485 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,520 He also said that the customer who'd ordered the stuff was a woman. 486 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,520 She told him that she would call and pick up the order on Friday. 487 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,520 We showed the manager a handful of mug shots. 488 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,520 He could give us only a partial identification of Mrs. Herbert's picture. 489 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,520 We called the office, told them we were going on stakeout, and arranged for a relief. 490 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,520 Ben and I spent the rest of Wednesday and all day Thursday and Friday in the rear of the print shop 491 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,520 where we could keep an eye on everyone entering the place. 492 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:54,520 Friday, 6 p.m. No sign of the Herberts. Not a trace. 493 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,520 Saturday, the same. No sign of either one of them. 494 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,520 Monday, more waiting. The suspect stayed away. 495 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,520 Tuesday, 3.30 p.m. I went out the rear door, went down the street and got some cigarettes, 496 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,520 and then I headed back for the print shop. 497 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,520 Ben, keep your coat on, Joe. Just called the office for a relief. 498 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:13,520 Why, what's he doing? 499 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,520 That Clyde Harris, friend of the Herberts, the guy who runs the physical culture school? 500 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:18,520 Yeah, what about him? 501 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,520 He called the office, wanted to talk to us. 502 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,520 I phoned him out there at the gym. 503 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,520 Yeah? 504 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,520 He told me he was out drinking last night and he met Mrs. Herbert at a bar. 505 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,520 She was alone. 506 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,520 Did he tell you where to find her? 507 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:38,520 The Greenwood Apartments, 603. 508 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,520 When the relief men arrived, Ben and I left and drove across town to the Greenwood Apartments on Taylor Street. 509 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:48,520 It was a three-story frame building set back from the sidewalk behind a sloping lawn lined with a box hedge. 510 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,520 We checked the names on the mailboxes. 511 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,520 The name T.J. Bronson was listed for apartment 603. 512 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,520 We rang, but there was no answer. 513 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,520 Better try the manager, huh? 514 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,520 Yeah. 515 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,520 Hmm, it's a nice place. 516 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,520 Insurance racket must be paying off for them. 517 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,520 Here we go. 518 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,520 Yeah? Can I help you? 519 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,520 Yes, sir, you the manager here? 520 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,520 That's right, Thatcher's my name. Can I help you? 521 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,520 Police officers, Mr. Thatcher. We're trying to locate the people in 603. 522 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,520 Oh, that crazy woman tried to blow up the place last night. 523 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,520 Why? What do you mean? 524 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,520 Mrs. Bronson, she came in drunk about 2 a.m. 525 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,520 No sense at all. 526 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,520 About 3 a.m., the folks in 601 called me and they said they smelled gas. 527 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,520 I went up there and found her in the kitchenette. 528 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,520 I'd like a light gas stove turned on going full blast. 529 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,520 Crazy. 530 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,520 Where's her husband? 531 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,520 Couldn't say. Chasing around again, I think. 532 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,520 Hadn't been home in a week. 533 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,520 Lucky I got to that gas before something a little match. 534 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,520 Did you say it happened about 3 this morning? 535 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,520 That's right, crazy woman. She'll be all right, though. 536 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,520 Where is she now, do you know? 537 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,520 Yeah, County Hospital. 538 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,520 4.25 p.m. Ben and I got in touch with the office 539 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,520 and arranged for a stakeout at the Herbert's apartment. 540 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,520 We called homicide and checked on the attempt suicide report. 541 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,520 They informed us that the woman had been taken to the Psycho Ward County Hospital. 542 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,520 We went over to the hospital, checked at the main desk and identified ourselves. 543 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:24,520 The nurse on duty had us shown to the ward where the suspect Doris Herbert was confined. 544 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,520 She was a halfway attractive woman in her late 40s. 545 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,520 Short, bleached blonde hair, dark eyes with deep circles under them. 546 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,520 She turned and looked up as we stopped beside her bed. 547 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,520 Excuse me, you Doris Herbert? 548 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,520 Ah? 549 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,520 Is your name Doris Herbert? 550 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,520 Who do you want? 551 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,520 Police officers. Would like to talk to you for a minute? 552 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,520 I knew you'd be around. I don't care. 553 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:43,520 Ma'am? 554 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,520 I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the whole rotten thing. I knew you'd come. 555 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,520 We just have a few questions, ma'am. It won't take long. 556 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,520 Go ahead, I don't care. Did you find him yet? 557 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,520 You mean your husband? 558 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,520 He's not my husband, not anymore. 559 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,520 Him and that cheap girl behind my back sneaking around. 560 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,520 Twenty years we've been happy and he throws me away. 561 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,520 Where's your husband now, ma'am? 562 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,520 With her. He's been with her awake. He doesn't even care I'm here. 563 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,520 Twenty years ago he cared. 564 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,520 I found him. He taught him something. I taught him everything he knows. 565 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,520 This girl that your husband's with, where does she stay? Do you know? 566 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:20,520 Yeah, an apartment. It's on Franklin. Right on the corner, Franklin and Laurel. 567 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,520 You were close weren't you? You knew it was us. 568 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,520 What's this girl's name? 569 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:28,520 Marie Daly. I saw her with him. Tell me something. 570 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:29,520 Yeah? 571 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,520 You knew it was us, Tom and me, the insurance? 572 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,520 Yeah, we knew it was you. 573 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:37,520 I didn't like it. It wasn't a clean game. Tom's idea. 574 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,520 We made money, but I didn't like it. It wasn't clean. 575 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,520 All right, Miss Herbert. We'll talk to you later. 576 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,520 No, not me. I'm going to die. I'm going to die and forget all about it. 577 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,520 Just be sure you can get him, won't you, Tom? 578 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,520 I taught him everything he knows. Get him. 579 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,520 You're sure about the address? 580 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,520 Yeah, I'm sure. Tell me something. 581 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,520 Hmm? 582 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,520 Why did he have to do it to me? Throwing me away, lying, taking that cheap girl. 583 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,520 Why'd he do it to me? 584 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,520 Well, you ought to have an idea. You taught him everything he knows. 585 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:15,520 Before we left the hospital, we made arrangements to have Doris Herbert transferred to the prison ward. 586 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:20,520 Five p.m. We drove out to the apartment house at Franklin and Laurel and checked with the landlady. 587 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,520 She told us that Tom Herbert's girlfriend, Marie Daly, had checked out of her apartment the day before. 588 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,520 She said the Daly girl had a middle-aged man with her. 589 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,520 We showed the landlady Herbert's mug shot and she identified him as that man. 590 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,520 She had no forwarding address on her, but she did remember the name of the express truck 591 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,520 that called to pick up the Daly girl's baggage. 592 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,520 We checked with the express company and found that the trunks had been taken to the Lockheed Air Terminal. 593 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,520 We started calling the airlines. 594 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,520 Six-thirty p.m. We finally got a report that a man answering Tom Herbert's description 595 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,520 had booked passage for two on a flight to Mexico City. 596 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,520 The plane was scheduled to leave at eight-thirty-five that night. 597 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,520 Ben and I drove out to the airport and went on stakeout. 598 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:04,520 Eight-fifteen p.m. We waited. Eight-twenty. No sign of them. 599 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:11,520 United Airlines mainliner flight 649 from Denver at Intermediate City. 600 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,520 Getting a little late, huh? 601 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,520 Yeah, it's eight-twenty-four. They're kind of getting close. 602 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,520 Going in the bar, Joe. Take a look. 603 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,520 Yeah, that's them. Let's go. 604 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,520 Not hard to spot. 605 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,520 What's the matter with the girl? 606 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,520 Looks pretty drunk. 607 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,520 All right, come on. 608 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,520 Reverend Water, how are you? Is that what you want? 609 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,520 Reverend Water, yeah. 610 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,520 We haven't got much time. We don't want to miss that plane. 611 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,520 We won't miss it. 612 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,520 Are you Tom Herbert? 613 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,520 Yes. What is it? 614 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,520 Police officers like talking to you downtown. 615 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,520 Just a minute. This must be some kind of mistake. 616 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,520 No mistake, Herbert. We talked to your wife. Let's go. 617 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,520 Where's the time? What do they want? 618 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,520 Nothing. It's a mistake. 619 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,520 Now, look, officers, I don't know what this is all about, but we have to get a plane. 620 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,520 The eight-thirty-five. I can't go downtown, will you? 621 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,520 Can we talk it over here? I'm sure we can straighten this out. 622 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,520 Your wife copped out, Herbert. Now let's make it easy, huh? 623 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,520 Come on, lady. 624 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,520 What's he talking about, Tom? Why is he fooling me? 625 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,520 I told you it's a mistake. Now be reasonable, huh, officer? 626 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,520 All we want to do is take a trip. We've been planning on this. New clothes, new luggage. 627 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,520 Here's your hand. Our car's outside. 628 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,520 It's a mistake. You can't do this. We planned on it. 629 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,520 We've been waiting a long time for this. 630 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,520 Yes, sir. So have we. 631 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,520 Come on, let's go. 632 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,520 The story you have just heard was true. 633 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,520 Only the names were changed to protect the innocent. 634 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,520 On October 28th, trial was held in Superior Court, Department 88, 635 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,520 City and County of Los Angeles, State of California. 636 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,520 In a moment, the results of that trial. 637 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,520 Now, here is our star, Jack Webb. 638 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,520 Thank you. 639 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,520 Friends, each week we're honored with letters from listeners all over the country. 640 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,520 Letters telling us that you've bought Fatimas, and you find them the best of all long cigarettes. 641 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,520 Well, thanks to you and the many thousands of other smokers who have switched to Fatimas, 642 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,520 I'm happy to report that more people are now enjoying Fatimas than ever before. 643 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:07,520 January sales figures just released show that in the East, Fatimas sales are up 56%. 644 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,520 In the Middle West, sales up 133%. 645 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,520 And here on the coast, Fatima shows an increase of 68%. 646 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,520 That means Fatima sales are up nearly 70% all over the country. 647 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:24,520 Now, if you haven't yet discovered Fatima's much different, much better flavor and aroma, 648 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,520 I suggest that you buy a pack tomorrow. 649 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,520 When you do, I'm convinced you'll agree with Fatima smokers everywhere. 650 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,520 In Fatima, the difference is quality. 651 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:46,520 Mr. and Mrs. Tom Herbert were tried and convicted on several counts of grand theft. 652 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,520 They are now confined in the state penitentiary for the term prescribed by law. 653 00:28:50,520 --> 00:29:00,520 Grand theft is punishable by confinement for not less than one nor more than 10 years. 654 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:05,520 You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from official files. 655 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:12,520 Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police, W.H. 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