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The documented drama of an actual crime. 02:05.000 --> 02:15.000 For the next 30 minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official police files. 02:15.000 --> 02:23.000 From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is the story of your police force in action. 02:25.000 --> 02:31.000 It was Wednesday, October the 6th. It was sultry in Los Angeles. We were working the day watch out of homicide. 02:31.000 --> 02:36.000 My partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Thad Brown, chief of detectives. My name's Friday. 02:36.000 --> 02:42.000 We were on the way out from the office and it was 10.45 a.m. when we got to Ortega Street. 02:42.000 --> 02:45.000 Number 1285. 02:47.000 --> 02:48.000 Second floor? 02:48.000 --> 02:50.000 Yeah, room 14. 02:55.000 --> 02:57.000 They all smell the same, don't they? 02:57.000 --> 02:58.000 What's that? 02:58.000 --> 03:01.000 It's a Roman house. 03:01.000 --> 03:05.000 No, these are the odd numbers here. It must be down that way, huh? 03:09.000 --> 03:11.000 Yeah, here it is. 14. 03:13.000 --> 03:16.000 Yeah, just a minute. 03:22.000 --> 03:24.000 Taking his time. 03:24.000 --> 03:27.000 Try it again, huh? 03:27.000 --> 03:29.000 Yeah, yeah, all right. 03:34.000 --> 03:35.000 Yeah? 03:35.000 --> 03:37.000 Police officers. Your name Henry Ross? 03:37.000 --> 03:39.000 Get out of here! Get out of here! 03:39.000 --> 03:54.000 All right, come on. 04:00.000 --> 04:02.000 What is this? What do you want? 04:02.000 --> 04:03.000 Ben? 04:03.000 --> 04:05.000 Yeah, I got him. 04:05.000 --> 04:08.000 What is this? You guys really cops? 04:08.000 --> 04:10.000 Come on, get up. 04:11.000 --> 04:15.000 No fooling. No fooling. You really cops? 04:15.000 --> 04:17.000 I thought you were faking. 04:17.000 --> 04:19.000 We showed you our identification at the door. 04:19.000 --> 04:21.000 I thought you were faking. That's the truth. 04:21.000 --> 04:25.000 There's a couple of guys out there to mush me up. I thought you were them. 04:25.000 --> 04:26.000 Your name Henry Ross? 04:26.000 --> 04:28.000 Yeah, that's right. 04:28.000 --> 04:31.000 I thought you were one of those moochers I had a fight with in the bar the other night. 04:31.000 --> 04:34.000 Said he was going to get a pal and come back in and take care of me. 04:34.000 --> 04:35.000 Yeah? 04:35.000 --> 04:39.000 Yeah. I ain't got no reason to fight with cops. 04:42.000 --> 04:46.000 I didn't do my room any good. Landlady's sure going to scream. 04:46.000 --> 04:48.000 All right, come on. You want to finish up dressing? 04:48.000 --> 04:50.000 I want to talk to you downtown. 04:50.000 --> 04:51.000 What's it about, officer? 04:51.000 --> 04:54.000 Missing person. No briefing when we get downtown. 04:54.000 --> 04:56.000 Well, it's hard with me. 04:56.000 --> 05:00.000 Would you take these handcuffs off, please? It's kind of hard dressing with them. 05:00.000 --> 05:03.000 All you have to do is put your shoes on. You can make out. 05:03.000 --> 05:07.000 All right. I don't know why you had to slap handcuffs on me. 05:07.000 --> 05:08.000 I didn't know you were a cop. 05:08.000 --> 05:11.000 You mind if we check through your things, Rowe? 05:11.000 --> 05:12.000 Huh? Why? 05:12.000 --> 05:13.000 You mind? 05:13.000 --> 05:16.000 Oh, go ahead if you want. I got a night. 05:16.000 --> 05:20.000 You know, if you'd have spoke up at the door, that wouldn't have been a fight. 05:20.000 --> 05:23.000 I thought you were that mooch in the bar and his friend. 05:23.000 --> 05:25.000 I thought you were looking for trouble. 05:25.000 --> 05:26.000 You about ready to go? 05:26.000 --> 05:31.000 Yeah. I'd like to brush my teeth off, you know, Mike. 05:31.000 --> 05:33.000 I got a real moth full of cotton this morning. 05:33.000 --> 05:34.000 All right. What do you keep your toothbrush? 05:34.000 --> 05:35.000 It's over here. I'll get it. 05:35.000 --> 05:38.000 No, I'll get it. Never mind. 05:38.000 --> 05:39.000 You hear it? 05:39.000 --> 05:40.000 Yeah. First shelf. It's in the glass. 05:40.000 --> 05:41.000 Yeah, I got it. 05:41.000 --> 05:43.000 Won't you trust me? 05:43.000 --> 05:45.000 Here you go. 05:45.000 --> 05:46.000 Want some toothpaste? 05:46.000 --> 05:47.000 Yeah. 05:47.000 --> 05:48.000 All right. 05:48.000 --> 05:49.000 Here you go. 05:49.000 --> 05:54.000 Turn on the water tap, huh? 05:54.000 --> 05:57.000 Hey. Nothing, Joe. It's pretty clean. 05:57.000 --> 06:00.000 Of course I'm clean. What'd you expect? 06:00.000 --> 06:02.000 Anybody could have made the mistake. I didn't know you were a cop. 06:02.000 --> 06:05.000 Henry Osworth Ross. Is that your full name? 06:05.000 --> 06:07.000 Yeah, that's right. 06:07.000 --> 06:09.000 I hardly ever use the Osworth, though. 06:09.000 --> 06:12.000 It's a real lousy name, huh? 06:12.000 --> 06:14.000 What's the fetch on all this, Officer? 06:14.000 --> 06:17.000 We told you, missing person. Want to talk to you about it. 06:17.000 --> 06:19.000 I don't think I can help you. 06:19.000 --> 06:20.000 Nobody I know is missing. 06:20.000 --> 06:22.000 How about Paul Davis? 06:22.000 --> 06:26.000 Davis? Yeah, I know Davis. 06:26.000 --> 06:29.000 I don't know if his name is Paul, though. 06:29.000 --> 06:32.000 Been gone a long time, huh, Mr. Davis? 06:32.000 --> 06:34.000 Yeah, that's right. 06:34.000 --> 06:36.000 Anything wrong? 06:36.000 --> 06:38.000 Something wrong, you think? 06:38.000 --> 06:40.000 We figure murder. 06:44.000 --> 06:50.000 After going over his room thoroughly, we took Henry Osworth Ross back to the city hall, to the interrogation room. 06:50.000 --> 06:54.000 He was a slightly built man, dark hair, brown eyes, swarthy complexion. 06:54.000 --> 06:56.000 He was a longshoreman by trade. 06:56.000 --> 07:01.000 Among his friends and acquaintances, he was known as a heavy drinker and a man with a violent temper. 07:01.000 --> 07:04.000 Ben and I questioned him for a half an hour and got nowhere. 07:04.000 --> 07:10.000 He sat across the table, relaxed, scraping at a thick callus on his hand with his fingernail. 07:10.000 --> 07:14.000 I'll tell you the truth. I just don't know what you're getting at. 07:14.000 --> 07:17.000 I think I know a guy named Davis, and that's about as far as it goes. 07:17.000 --> 07:19.000 Sure that's all you've got to tell us? 07:19.000 --> 07:20.000 Of course I'm sure. 07:20.000 --> 07:23.000 Now look, I've got a right to call a lawyer if you're going to sit there and throw a lot of charges at me. 07:23.000 --> 07:28.000 We're not throwing charges at you, Henry. We've got a missing persons case. We'd like to have you cooperate. That's about it. 07:28.000 --> 07:30.000 Well, maybe I'd like to, but I can't. 07:30.000 --> 07:34.000 Paul Davis is just a name to me. Maybe I know him. I don't know. 07:34.000 --> 07:36.000 You got that report there, Ben? 07:36.000 --> 07:38.000 Yeah, just a minute. 07:40.000 --> 07:41.000 Here you go. 07:41.000 --> 07:42.000 Thanks. 07:42.000 --> 07:44.000 Well, here's the way it goes, Henry. 07:44.000 --> 07:45.000 Yeah? 07:45.000 --> 07:50.000 According to his wife, Paul Davis left Los Angeles by auto a little over four months ago. 07:50.000 --> 07:55.000 He was driving up to Oakdale, California to take a job with a dairy company up there. 07:55.000 --> 07:57.000 He never got there. He's been missing ever since. 07:57.000 --> 07:59.000 So? What's the pitch? 07:59.000 --> 08:05.000 All we've been able to find is Davis' car, the 36 Ford Coupe, 7 Tom, 792. 08:05.000 --> 08:08.000 It was sold a month ago up in Lodi, California. 08:08.000 --> 08:15.000 But Davis didn't sell it. A man by the name of Carter signed the pink slip at the time of the sale. Henry Carter. 08:15.000 --> 08:17.000 Sorry. I don't mean anything to mean. 08:17.000 --> 08:24.000 Well, as Carter made it look like Paul Davis had signed the Ford over to him, we checked it out. Davis' signature was Ford's. 08:24.000 --> 08:27.000 That's so. It's supposed to have something to do with me. 08:27.000 --> 08:29.000 Did you ever use the name Henry Carter? 08:29.000 --> 08:31.000 Of course not. Ross. It's the only name I go by. 08:31.000 --> 08:33.000 Never had your name changed? 08:33.000 --> 08:34.000 No. 08:34.000 --> 08:35.000 Never used an alias? 08:35.000 --> 08:37.000 I told you, no. 08:37.000 --> 08:39.000 I wonder if you'd mind taking a look at this. 08:41.000 --> 08:43.000 Here you go, this here. 08:43.000 --> 08:44.000 What's this got to do with me? 08:44.000 --> 08:47.000 The pink slip to Paul Davis' car. 08:48.000 --> 08:52.000 See these signatures on the back here? Transfer of ownership. Recognize either one of them? 08:52.000 --> 08:56.000 Paul Davis and Ray's car. 08:56.000 --> 08:59.000 Well, doesn't mean anything to me. Is it supposed to? 08:59.000 --> 09:00.000 It should, yeah. 09:00.000 --> 09:01.000 Why? 09:01.000 --> 09:04.000 The signatures are both in your handwriting. 09:04.000 --> 09:05.000 How about it, Henry? 09:05.000 --> 09:10.000 How about what? I don't even know what you're talking about. You're trying to give me the treatment. What's this all about? 09:10.000 --> 09:11.000 I'm trying to locate Paul Davis. 09:11.000 --> 09:12.000 I'm not even sure I know the car. 09:12.000 --> 09:16.000 I think you better level, Henry. Our handwriting man checked both the signatures. It's your writing. 09:16.000 --> 09:22.000 Well, then maybe you better get a new handwriting man. I never saw that slip. I never wrote those signatures. Anybody can copy handwriting. 09:23.000 --> 09:29.000 Well, I've got something else for you, Ross. I'd like to have you check it over, see if you can identify it. 09:29.000 --> 09:30.000 What is it? 09:30.000 --> 09:32.000 It's a letter. I want to take a look here. 09:33.000 --> 09:35.000 Does that mean anything to you? 09:36.000 --> 09:39.000 No, nothing. I hope you're not going to tell me this is my handwriting. 09:39.000 --> 09:40.000 That's what the report says. 09:40.000 --> 09:43.000 Oh, it's crazy. I never wrote like that in my life. 09:43.000 --> 09:46.000 All the writing characteristics match up. Same as the signatures on the pink slip. 09:46.000 --> 09:52.000 All right. Maybe they are the same. I didn't write either one. I never wrote like that in my life. Here, let me show you how I write. 09:52.000 --> 09:55.000 No, it's all right, Henry. Ben, you want to pull the package tomorrow night? 09:55.000 --> 09:57.000 Yeah, okay. 09:58.000 --> 10:02.000 I don't savvy one bit of this, Sergeant. How about laying it out in here? 10:02.000 --> 10:06.000 You can see the name at the bottom of the letter. It's signed Henry Carter, same as the pink slip. 10:06.000 --> 10:08.000 Well, that doesn't mean anything to me. 10:08.000 --> 10:13.000 This letter was sent to the wife of Paul Davis about nine weeks ago. 10:13.000 --> 10:19.000 And it says here that Davis supposedly was too busy to write his wife, so he had this Henry Carter send a letter. 10:19.000 --> 10:22.000 He also writes in here that Davis sold his car to Carter. 10:22.000 --> 10:24.000 Somebody trying to cover up, huh? 10:24.000 --> 10:27.000 Yeah, we think so. We think it's Henry Carter. 10:29.000 --> 10:32.000 This Davis guy has been gone about four months? 10:32.000 --> 10:33.000 That's right. 10:33.000 --> 10:35.000 You said you thought Davis was murdered. How come? 10:35.000 --> 10:36.000 Just an idea. 10:36.000 --> 10:40.000 Eight men had disappeared from around here in the last 14 months, just like Davis. 10:40.000 --> 10:44.000 Six more up in the San Joaquin Valley the same way. 10:44.000 --> 10:48.000 They took off alone on auto trips. We've never seen again. Not a trace. 10:48.000 --> 10:50.000 Pretty funny. 10:52.000 --> 10:53.000 Here you go, Joe. 10:53.000 --> 10:54.000 Thank you. 10:54.000 --> 10:58.000 You've got your record here, Henry, from Baton Rouge. 10:58.000 --> 11:01.000 Sent the Sheriff Plemons for it. 11:01.000 --> 11:02.000 Huh? 11:02.000 --> 11:07.000 Huh? Look, do we have to drag all out again? It's past. 11:07.000 --> 11:10.000 Just one thing we had to check, Henry. 11:11.000 --> 11:13.000 You told us that you never use an alias, is that right? 11:13.000 --> 11:15.000 All right, I have. I didn't know what you were getting at. 11:15.000 --> 11:18.000 I didn't think I was going to use dragging out dirty laundry again. 11:18.000 --> 11:20.000 I asked you if you ever used the name Henry Carter. 11:20.000 --> 11:24.000 Okay, I've used it. It's a common name. There's a lot of Henry Carters around. 11:24.000 --> 11:25.000 We only know one if it's your description. 11:25.000 --> 11:27.000 I'm clean. You know that. 11:28.000 --> 11:29.000 Want a smoke, Henry? 11:29.000 --> 11:30.000 No. 11:30.000 --> 11:32.000 Joe? 11:32.000 --> 11:33.000 No, thanks. 11:33.000 --> 11:34.000 Well, let me have one, will you? 11:34.000 --> 11:36.000 Here you go. 11:37.000 --> 11:38.000 Thanks. 11:39.000 --> 11:41.000 You've got a match here. 11:43.000 --> 11:46.000 You know, we rode this thing for four months. 11:47.000 --> 11:49.000 All over the state. Here. 11:50.000 --> 11:51.000 Thanks. 11:55.000 --> 11:58.000 I'll tell you what we got, Henry. We'll let you make up your own mind. 11:58.000 --> 11:59.000 It's not my writing. 11:59.000 --> 12:03.000 On June 4th, Paul Davis left Los Angeles and his car headed for Oakdale. 12:03.000 --> 12:08.000 Late in the afternoon, he stopped for gas at a service station just beyond San Fernando. 12:08.000 --> 12:12.000 The attendant says a man was with Davis. You fit that man's description, Henry. 12:12.000 --> 12:15.000 Yeah? Well, I've seen monks like that in court. 12:15.000 --> 12:18.000 They get on the stand and can't even remember their own name. 12:18.000 --> 12:22.000 A couple others. You and Davis stopped for a hamburger just outside of Gorman. 12:22.000 --> 12:24.000 There's a man there. He remembers you, too. 12:24.000 --> 12:28.000 He stopped again in Bakersfield. He picked up a quart of oil for the car. 12:28.000 --> 12:31.000 You and Davis had a coke the last time you were seen alive. 12:31.000 --> 12:33.000 That makes me a killer, huh? 12:33.000 --> 12:37.000 A month after that, the pink slip to Davis' car came through DMV up in Sacramento. 12:37.000 --> 12:40.000 That was for the transfer of ownership from Davis to Henry Carter. 12:40.000 --> 12:42.000 Both in your handwriting. 12:42.000 --> 12:45.000 A couple of weeks later, Mrs. Davis got that letter. 12:45.000 --> 12:48.000 A month ago, Davis' car was sold to a dealer in Lodi. 12:48.000 --> 12:49.000 Yeah, yeah. 12:49.000 --> 12:52.000 We found the dealer, Ross. Showed him your mug shot. 12:52.000 --> 12:54.000 He says you sold him the car. 12:55.000 --> 12:56.000 That all? 12:56.000 --> 12:58.000 It's just the main part. There's more. 12:58.000 --> 13:02.000 We've been on the road a lot. We followed you from here to Sacramento and back, Henry. 13:02.000 --> 13:05.000 Every stop, every detour took us a long time. 13:05.000 --> 13:07.000 Yeah, I guess it did. 13:07.000 --> 13:09.000 What do you say, Ross? 13:09.000 --> 13:10.000 Nothing. 13:10.000 --> 13:12.000 Any way you want it, Henry. 13:12.000 --> 13:14.000 You got on the smoke? 13:14.000 --> 13:15.000 Yeah. 13:15.000 --> 13:17.000 Here you go. 13:17.000 --> 13:18.000 Thanks. 13:18.000 --> 13:20.000 Here. 13:20.000 --> 13:23.000 Yep. I guess you worked hard on it, huh? 13:23.000 --> 13:24.000 All over the state. 13:24.000 --> 13:25.000 That's right. 13:25.000 --> 13:28.000 Must be pretty hot up in the Valley some at that. Dusty, huh? 13:28.000 --> 13:29.000 We may, yeah. 13:29.000 --> 13:31.000 I've never been up in the Valley in the summer. It's too hot for me. 13:31.000 --> 13:32.000 They got people who saw you there. 13:32.000 --> 13:34.000 What's it prove? Ten people and some writing samples. 13:34.000 --> 13:36.000 You can't build a case on that. You know it, don't you? 13:36.000 --> 13:38.000 We're gonna try. 13:38.000 --> 13:40.000 You think I murdered Davis? 13:41.000 --> 13:42.000 You, Sergeant? 13:42.000 --> 13:44.000 Yeah. 13:44.000 --> 13:46.000 You think I murdered those other guys, too, huh? 13:46.000 --> 13:50.000 What was it, 10, 12 of them? 13:50.000 --> 13:52.000 We're asking about Davis. 13:52.000 --> 13:54.000 You think I killed him? 13:54.000 --> 13:57.000 Tell me the truth. You think I murdered Davis? 13:57.000 --> 13:59.000 Yeah, I think you did. 13:59.000 --> 14:03.000 Well, then you know as well as I do, there's only one way to prove it. 14:03.000 --> 14:05.000 Find his body. 14:08.000 --> 14:12.000 1.15 p.m. Ben and I took Henry Ross out and fed him some lunch. 14:12.000 --> 14:16.000 Then we took him back to the City Hall to the interrogation room where we continued to question him. 14:16.000 --> 14:21.000 It was relaxed and he talked a great deal about everything but the disappearance of Paul Davis. 14:21.000 --> 14:26.000 He didn't seem anxious to get away, made no demands for an attorney to represent him. 14:26.000 --> 14:29.000 For a full hour, he did most of the talking. 14:29.000 --> 14:32.000 He told us about the different homicide cases he'd read up on. 14:32.000 --> 14:38.000 He asked us about the 12 men who'd disappeared in the past months in the same manner Paul Davis had. 14:38.000 --> 14:40.000 Was there any trace of him at all? 14:40.000 --> 14:42.000 Did we have any leads? 14:42.000 --> 14:44.000 How do we think we were going to find him? 14:44.000 --> 14:48.000 Well, we finally got around to asking him if he'd submit to a lie detector test. 14:48.000 --> 14:51.000 He seemed taken by the idea and agreed to it almost immediately. 14:51.000 --> 14:54.000 Ben called Sergeant Berger and made arrangements for the test. 14:54.000 --> 14:57.000 We made up a list of key questions. 14:57.000 --> 15:05.000 At 5 p.m., we took the suspect to the third floor of the Old City Jail where Sergeant Berger gave him the polygraph test. 15:05.000 --> 15:08.000 On the way back to the office, Ross complained he was hungry. 15:08.000 --> 15:10.000 We stopped and bought him coffee and donuts. 15:10.000 --> 15:13.000 We got back to the interrogation room a little after 6 p.m. 15:13.000 --> 15:15.000 The questioning continued. 15:15.000 --> 15:17.000 Ross didn't seem to mind at all. 15:17.000 --> 15:19.000 He kept talking. We let him talk. 15:19.000 --> 15:22.000 8 p.m., he was still going strong. 15:22.000 --> 15:25.000 You remember the Wilson case back in 34, don't you, Sire? 15:25.000 --> 15:27.000 Woman killed a whole family. 15:27.000 --> 15:29.000 Big case, you remember. 15:29.000 --> 15:31.000 Yeah, it was pretty tragic. 15:31.000 --> 15:34.000 Is that a hobby of yours, Henry, collecting murder stories? 15:34.000 --> 15:37.000 No, no, I just read them, remember. 15:37.000 --> 15:40.000 I guess I can remember every big murder case in the last 15 years. 15:40.000 --> 15:41.000 That's how? 15:41.000 --> 15:43.000 Yeah, I spot all of them. 15:43.000 --> 15:47.000 I guess it is kind of a hobby. I get a big kick out of it. 15:47.000 --> 15:49.000 I got it, Ben. Excuse me, Henry. 15:49.000 --> 15:51.000 Oh, sure. 15:51.000 --> 15:53.000 Interrogation room, Friday. 15:53.000 --> 15:55.000 Oh, yeah, Berger. 15:55.000 --> 15:56.000 Hmm? 15:56.000 --> 15:58.000 No, how many? 15:58.000 --> 16:00.000 Uh-huh. Yeah. 16:00.000 --> 16:02.000 Okay, thank you. 16:02.000 --> 16:05.000 You know, there's one thing I get a real big kick out of. 16:05.000 --> 16:07.000 It's detective magazines. 16:07.000 --> 16:09.000 Mystery stories, the way they make out the murderer. 16:09.000 --> 16:10.000 How do you mean? 16:10.000 --> 16:12.000 You know, they always build it up into something big. 16:12.000 --> 16:15.000 Somebody's always killing somebody else for a million dollars. 16:15.000 --> 16:18.000 Maybe over some woman, some beautiful woman. 16:18.000 --> 16:20.000 Same way with the movies. 16:20.000 --> 16:22.000 That's where they get it all mixed up. 16:22.000 --> 16:23.000 I'm like a follower, Henry. 16:23.000 --> 16:24.000 Oh, sure you do. 16:24.000 --> 16:26.000 Every time some guy writes a murder story, 16:26.000 --> 16:28.000 he's got to build up a big reason for the killing. 16:28.000 --> 16:30.000 A lot of money, beautiful woman. 16:30.000 --> 16:33.000 Revenge, maybe. Always got to be a big reason. 16:33.000 --> 16:35.000 Motive, motive, that's what they say. 16:35.000 --> 16:37.000 Well, generally works out that way, doesn't it? 16:37.000 --> 16:39.000 Why? 16:39.000 --> 16:42.000 I bet you there's a thousand murder cases in your files 16:42.000 --> 16:44.000 without any reason at all. 16:44.000 --> 16:46.000 Some people kill, that's all. 16:46.000 --> 16:47.000 I've heard about lots of them. 16:47.000 --> 16:50.000 They just want to kill and they go ahead and do it. 16:50.000 --> 16:52.000 Maybe for a few bucks, maybe for nothing. 16:52.000 --> 16:53.000 They just do it. 16:53.000 --> 16:54.000 That's all. 16:54.000 --> 16:55.000 Sure, you know that. 16:55.000 --> 16:57.000 Like this thing you've been talking about. 16:57.000 --> 16:59.000 Ten, twelve guys disappear. 16:59.000 --> 17:01.000 They got a few bucks, maybe they got nothing. 17:01.000 --> 17:04.000 Somebody plows them under and that's all. 17:04.000 --> 17:05.000 No big reason. 17:05.000 --> 17:07.000 They just do it. 17:07.000 --> 17:08.000 So twelve guys are gone. 17:08.000 --> 17:10.000 It doesn't mean anything. 17:10.000 --> 17:12.000 That's how you got it figured on him. 17:12.000 --> 17:13.000 Huh? 17:13.000 --> 17:14.000 A phone call a minute ago there. 17:14.000 --> 17:17.000 It was a man who gave you the lie detector test. 17:17.000 --> 17:18.000 Oh, that right. How'd it go? 17:18.000 --> 17:20.000 He just finished going over your graph. 17:20.000 --> 17:22.000 He got sixteen positive reactions. 17:22.000 --> 17:24.000 Yeah, what's that mean? 17:24.000 --> 17:26.000 You lied, Henry, sixteen times. 17:26.000 --> 17:27.000 That right. 17:27.000 --> 17:29.000 You better tell him to get a new machine. 17:29.000 --> 17:30.000 I lied all the way through. 17:30.000 --> 17:32.000 Mind telling us why? 17:32.000 --> 17:34.000 Yeah, why? 17:34.000 --> 17:36.000 I guess I knew you'd find out. 17:36.000 --> 17:38.000 Let's go get something to eat first, though I'm hungry. 17:38.000 --> 17:39.000 We better talk a little more, Henry. 17:39.000 --> 17:41.000 Let's go. I'll tell you why we're eating. 17:41.000 --> 17:42.000 Bring a pencil with you. Draw your map. 17:42.000 --> 17:43.000 Map of what? 17:43.000 --> 17:45.000 The canyon. 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Best of all long cigarettes. 19:22.000 --> 19:26.000 Wednesday, 9.55 p.m. Ben and I took Henry Ross across the street, 19:26.000 --> 19:28.000 bought him a Coke at Mac's place, 19:28.000 --> 19:30.000 then we took him next door to the Melbourne cafeteria. 19:30.000 --> 19:32.000 It was almost closing time. 19:32.000 --> 19:35.000 Ross got himself a cottage cheese and pineapple salad, 19:35.000 --> 19:39.000 bacon and liver with onions, rye bread, banana pie and coffee. 19:39.000 --> 19:43.000 Ben had a hot beef sandwich, mashed potatoes and coffee I had the same. 19:43.000 --> 19:47.000 At the back of the cafeteria, one of the bus boys was mopping the tile floor. 19:47.000 --> 19:53.000 It was a strong smell of disinfectant. 19:53.000 --> 19:55.000 How about that table over there, Sergeant? That all right with you? 19:55.000 --> 19:59.000 Yeah, it's okay. Doesn't make any difference. 19:59.000 --> 20:10.000 It's fine. 20:10.000 --> 20:12.000 Want some water? 20:12.000 --> 20:13.000 Yeah, yeah, please. 20:13.000 --> 20:17.000 All right, I'll get some. 20:17.000 --> 20:20.000 Oh, boy, living onions. 20:20.000 --> 20:21.000 That sure smells great, huh? 20:21.000 --> 20:24.000 Yeah, I can't take those onions so well. 20:24.000 --> 20:25.000 They repeat on me. 20:25.000 --> 20:27.000 Not me, I can eat any. 20:27.000 --> 20:28.000 Salt and pepper? 20:28.000 --> 20:30.000 Yeah, thanks. 20:30.000 --> 20:32.000 Boy, I'm sure hungry. I haven't eaten much today. 20:32.000 --> 20:34.000 Did you get a sandwich made with rye bread? 20:34.000 --> 20:36.000 No, grain bread. 20:36.000 --> 20:38.000 Oh, you should have gotten the rye, real German rye bread. 20:38.000 --> 20:40.000 Smell that, real nice and fresh. 20:40.000 --> 20:42.000 Here you go, Ben. 20:42.000 --> 20:43.000 Oh, thanks. 20:43.000 --> 20:48.000 Oh, thank you. 20:48.000 --> 20:53.000 You know, all that talk really sharpened up my appetite. 20:53.000 --> 20:55.000 Boy, this food tastes good. 20:55.000 --> 20:58.000 Do you want a gel? 20:58.000 --> 21:01.000 Yeah, thanks. 21:01.000 --> 21:03.000 We brought a pencil along, Henry. 21:03.000 --> 21:05.000 You want to start taking notes? 21:05.000 --> 21:08.000 As good a time as any, I guess. 21:08.000 --> 21:13.000 You know, the whole thing just comes right back to what I was trying to tell you there in the office. 21:13.000 --> 21:14.000 Yeah, what's that? 21:14.000 --> 21:17.000 Well, you know, all about those phony mystery stories. 21:17.000 --> 21:18.000 Oh, yeah. 21:18.000 --> 21:20.000 Every time there's trouble, there's a big reason behind it. 21:20.000 --> 21:22.000 It's phony, that's all. 21:22.000 --> 21:23.000 Yeah? 21:23.000 --> 21:26.000 Sure, it's Paul Davis, for instance. 21:26.000 --> 21:28.000 I guess I knew you'd find me out. 21:28.000 --> 21:32.000 I knew this morning when you picked me up, you had it figured. 21:32.000 --> 21:34.000 Must have been a big job, huh? 21:34.000 --> 21:35.000 Finding me? 21:35.000 --> 21:37.000 Pretty big, Henry, you know. 21:37.000 --> 21:39.000 A lot of mileage. 21:39.000 --> 21:40.000 How'd it happen? 21:40.000 --> 21:41.000 Well, there again. 21:41.000 --> 21:43.000 Just like I was saying. 21:43.000 --> 21:45.000 Ain't no big reason behind it. 21:45.000 --> 21:49.000 I needed a few bucks from this Davis camera, huh? 21:49.000 --> 21:51.000 I guess he was it. 21:51.000 --> 21:53.000 Pass me a ketchup, will you? 21:53.000 --> 21:54.000 Oh, yeah. 21:54.000 --> 21:55.000 Here you go. 21:55.000 --> 21:56.000 Get the lid off. 21:56.000 --> 21:57.000 There you go. 21:57.000 --> 21:58.000 Thanks. 22:03.000 --> 22:05.000 Where'd you meet Davis, Henry? 22:05.000 --> 22:07.000 Oh, I was hitchhiking out in Ventura. 22:07.000 --> 22:09.000 I'm not a dime on my jeans. 22:09.000 --> 22:10.000 I was going up to Maricopa. 22:10.000 --> 22:13.000 I thought I had a job up there and Davis came along. 22:13.000 --> 22:14.000 He picked me up. 22:14.000 --> 22:15.000 You ever know him before that? 22:15.000 --> 22:16.000 No. 22:16.000 --> 22:18.000 Stranger. 22:18.000 --> 22:20.000 He says he's going to Oakdale. 22:20.000 --> 22:22.000 Little guy gave me a ride. 22:24.000 --> 22:25.000 Go ahead. 22:25.000 --> 22:27.000 Well, we stopped for gas in San Fernando. 22:27.000 --> 22:29.000 I saw you had a few bucks in his wallet, 22:29.000 --> 22:31.000 and I guess that's when I got the idea. 22:31.000 --> 22:32.000 About what? 22:32.000 --> 22:33.000 Killing him. 22:33.000 --> 22:36.000 Now, maybe that gives you an idea of what I was talking about. 22:36.000 --> 22:38.000 You don't need any big reason to kill somebody. 22:38.000 --> 22:41.000 Davis had 18 bucks. 22:41.000 --> 22:43.000 Now, suppose I told that to a writer. 22:43.000 --> 22:45.000 Somebody killing a guy for 18 bucks. 22:45.000 --> 22:47.000 That wouldn't make much sense, huh? 22:47.000 --> 22:48.000 He'd tell you, never sell. 22:48.000 --> 22:50.000 You need a million dollars, beautiful woman. 22:50.000 --> 22:51.000 Good morning. 22:51.000 --> 22:52.000 Yeah. 22:52.000 --> 22:54.000 Where'd you kill him, Henry? 22:54.000 --> 22:56.000 Just outside of Bakersfield. 22:56.000 --> 22:57.000 Little canyon there. 22:57.000 --> 23:01.000 I got Davis to buy a fifth of sherry in Bakersfield. 23:01.000 --> 23:03.000 He drank some on the way. 23:03.000 --> 23:04.000 Pass the saw, huh? 23:04.000 --> 23:05.000 Yeah. 23:05.000 --> 23:06.000 Here you go. 23:06.000 --> 23:07.000 Thanks. 23:07.000 --> 23:10.000 Living's no good without plenty of salt. 23:10.000 --> 23:12.000 How'd you kill Davis, Henry? 23:12.000 --> 23:15.000 That's a funny thing. 23:15.000 --> 23:17.000 He drank some of the wine, got a little sleazy. 23:17.000 --> 23:19.000 I was just outside of Bakersfield. 23:19.000 --> 23:21.000 Dark by that time. 23:21.000 --> 23:22.000 I spotted this little canyon. 23:22.000 --> 23:24.000 I figured it was the goodest place as any. 23:24.000 --> 23:26.000 So I get some, pull out to a side road, 23:26.000 --> 23:27.000 had a few more drinks, 23:27.000 --> 23:29.000 and I spotted this little shack out there in the middle of nowhere. 23:29.000 --> 23:30.000 Exactly where was this, Henry? 23:30.000 --> 23:33.000 Watt & Sawyer's maybe two miles north of Bakersfield. 23:33.000 --> 23:36.000 We got to the shack, finished the wine, went to sleep. 23:36.000 --> 23:37.000 Both of you? 23:37.000 --> 23:38.000 Mm-hmm. 23:38.000 --> 23:40.000 And that's where the funny part comes in. 23:40.000 --> 23:42.000 I guess I killed Davis, all right. 23:42.000 --> 23:47.000 But I didn't mean it. 23:47.000 --> 23:50.000 Oh, brother, get a whiff of that, huh? 23:50.000 --> 23:54.000 Why do these monks have to mop up while people are eating? 23:54.000 --> 23:56.000 I'll be through in a minute, Henry. 23:56.000 --> 23:57.000 Fine. 23:57.000 --> 24:00.000 How'd you mean Henry didn't mean to kill him? 24:00.000 --> 24:02.000 You already told us you had the idea. 24:02.000 --> 24:03.000 Well, sure I had the idea. 24:03.000 --> 24:04.000 Let me explain, huh? 24:04.000 --> 24:07.000 We both went to sleep in this shack. Davis and me. 24:07.000 --> 24:09.000 Guess that must have been all about 9 o'clock at night. 24:09.000 --> 24:10.000 I don't know what it was. 24:10.000 --> 24:13.000 Maybe the wine, I guess, but I started having nightmares. 24:13.000 --> 24:16.000 Yeah, now maybe this part sounds like a story, but it's the truth. 24:16.000 --> 24:17.000 I had all these dreams. 24:17.000 --> 24:20.000 I woke up, but they're still there. 24:20.000 --> 24:21.000 What was that? 24:21.000 --> 24:22.000 Faces. 24:22.000 --> 24:23.000 Faces, that's all I could see. 24:23.000 --> 24:24.000 There was a full of faces. 24:24.000 --> 24:27.000 I guess I was really still asleep. 24:27.000 --> 24:28.000 Yeah, go ahead. 24:28.000 --> 24:31.000 Oh, I picked up a two by four and started swinging at them. 24:31.000 --> 24:32.000 They're faces. 24:32.000 --> 24:35.000 Funny thing, too, I knew every one of these faces. 24:35.000 --> 24:36.000 How do you mean? 24:36.000 --> 24:37.000 People I killed. 24:37.000 --> 24:40.000 There were only a dozen of them, really, but it seemed like there were a hundred of them 24:40.000 --> 24:41.000 all around in the air. 24:41.000 --> 24:44.000 Well, I grabbed that two by four and I started swinging. 24:44.000 --> 24:48.000 I was cold and sweating all at the same time, and I kept on swinging. 24:48.000 --> 24:51.000 And I saw Davis' face and I swung hard, kept swinging. 24:51.000 --> 24:52.000 Didn't he make a sound? 24:52.000 --> 24:56.000 His eyes closed, kept on swinging at his head. 24:56.000 --> 24:59.000 Well, when I come to it, there he was, lying on the floor. 24:59.000 --> 25:01.000 Seemed to take those other faces away. 25:01.000 --> 25:03.000 They didn't bother me after I killed Davis. 25:03.000 --> 25:04.000 What did you do with him, Henry? 25:04.000 --> 25:07.000 I pulled him outside the shack, dug a hole and buried him. 25:07.000 --> 25:09.000 Burned his clothes, took his car and money and drove off. 25:09.000 --> 25:11.000 I'll show you if you like where I buried him, I mean. 25:11.000 --> 25:14.000 How about these other men, Ross, these faces you saw? 25:14.000 --> 25:15.000 Hmm? Oh. 25:15.000 --> 25:18.000 Hey, uh, why don't I get a little more coffee? 25:18.000 --> 25:19.000 It's all gone. 25:19.000 --> 25:20.000 I'll get it. 25:20.000 --> 25:21.000 You don't? 25:21.000 --> 25:22.000 No, no thanks. 25:22.000 --> 25:24.000 What about it, Ross, the other men? 25:24.000 --> 25:25.000 Well, I don't recall them too well. 25:25.000 --> 25:27.000 It's what you said in the office, 10 or 12 of them. 25:27.000 --> 25:29.000 A couple in Sacramento, the others down through the valley. 25:29.000 --> 25:31.000 Like I say, there was no big reason for killing them. 25:31.000 --> 25:32.000 It just happened that way, that's all. 25:32.000 --> 25:33.000 What did you do with them, you remember? 25:33.000 --> 25:35.000 Generally, yeah. 25:35.000 --> 25:36.000 There's one of them that stands out. 25:36.000 --> 25:37.000 A guy by the name of Slattery, 25:37.000 --> 25:39.000 some kind of salesman, a real crybaby. 25:39.000 --> 25:40.000 Where'd this happen? 25:40.000 --> 25:43.000 My woman picked me up in his car outside at Chuck Schiller. 25:43.000 --> 25:46.000 It was nighttime, he must have been feeling pretty good. 25:46.000 --> 25:47.000 I made him stop on a side road. 25:47.000 --> 25:50.000 I hit him with a piece of angle iron and he cried like a baby. 25:50.000 --> 25:52.000 Buried him in a field, there he is. 25:52.000 --> 25:54.000 One of the faces that I saw. 25:54.000 --> 25:55.000 That's funny, huh? 25:55.000 --> 25:57.000 It shows you how psychology works, huh? 25:57.000 --> 25:59.000 Yeah, what'd you do with his car, Slattery's, I mean? 25:59.000 --> 26:01.000 Go over down to Mexico and throw it there. 26:01.000 --> 26:03.000 I guess that's what I should have done with Davis' gun. 26:03.000 --> 26:04.000 Here you go. 26:04.000 --> 26:05.000 Oh, thanks. 26:05.000 --> 26:06.000 These killings are yours. 26:06.000 --> 26:08.000 You got any more you want to tell us about? 26:08.000 --> 26:10.000 I told you already. 26:10.000 --> 26:13.000 Ten or twelve of them, they're pretty much the same. 26:13.000 --> 26:14.000 When was the first one? 26:14.000 --> 26:17.000 Oh, maybe 18 months, two years ago. 26:19.000 --> 26:20.000 The first one wasn't any harder than the last. 26:20.000 --> 26:22.000 It's just like I was telling you before. 26:22.000 --> 26:23.000 Everybody builds up murders. 26:23.000 --> 26:26.000 It's supposed to be a big thing, hard to do, all those phony stories. 26:26.000 --> 26:29.000 I'd just hit a guy a couple of times with something, that'd be it. 26:29.000 --> 26:30.000 A real small thing. 26:30.000 --> 26:33.000 Didn't change me any, that's why I say it's all built up. 26:33.000 --> 26:36.000 You ever been treated for any mental sickness, Ross? 26:37.000 --> 26:38.000 No, why? 26:38.000 --> 26:39.000 You ever been examined by a psychiatrist? 26:39.000 --> 26:40.000 No. 26:40.000 --> 26:42.000 After you killed these men, did it bother you at all? 26:42.000 --> 26:44.000 Not in just that one dream. 26:45.000 --> 26:46.000 Time-lapse with Davis. 26:49.000 --> 26:50.000 That's about it. 26:53.000 --> 26:54.000 Sure good meal, Sergeant, thanks. 26:54.000 --> 26:55.000 Yeah, okay. 26:55.000 --> 26:56.000 You ready, Ben? 26:56.000 --> 26:57.000 Let's go. 26:57.000 --> 26:58.000 All right. 26:58.000 --> 26:59.000 We go back upstairs, huh? 26:59.000 --> 27:01.000 Yeah, do you want to give us a statement? 27:01.000 --> 27:02.000 All right. 27:03.000 --> 27:05.000 I had an idea you'd find me. 27:05.000 --> 27:07.000 I guess I always knew that you'd find me. 27:10.000 --> 27:11.000 Let's go, Henry. 27:11.000 --> 27:13.000 Guess I proved my point anyway, huh? 27:13.000 --> 27:14.000 It's all built up, huh? 27:14.000 --> 27:18.000 Murder, killing somebody, those phony stories. 27:18.000 --> 27:20.000 It's all built up, it's cheap. 27:20.000 --> 27:21.000 No, you got it wrong, Henry. 27:21.000 --> 27:22.000 Huh? 27:22.000 --> 27:23.000 Wait till they read you the bill. 27:23.000 --> 27:26.000 The story you have just heard was true. 27:26.000 --> 27:29.000 Only the names were changed to protect the innocent. 27:29.000 --> 27:32.000 On January 7th, trial was held in Superior Court, 27:32.000 --> 27:34.000 Department 86, City and County of Los Angeles, 27:34.000 --> 27:35.000 State of California. 27:35.000 --> 27:37.000 In a moment, the results of that trial. 27:37.000 --> 27:39.000 Now, here is our star, Jack Webb. 27:39.000 --> 27:40.000 Thank you. 27:40.000 --> 27:43.000 Friends, the makers of Fatima have done everything possible 27:43.000 --> 27:45.000 to produce the kind of signal that we need. 27:45.000 --> 27:47.000 We've got a lot of work to do. 27:47.000 --> 27:48.000 We've got a lot of work to do. 27:48.000 --> 27:49.000 We've got a lot of work to do. 27:49.000 --> 27:50.000 We've got a lot of work to do. 27:50.000 --> 27:51.000 We've got a lot of work to do. 27:51.000 --> 27:55.000 We've got a lot of work to do. 27:55.000 --> 27:56.000 And we've got a lot of work to do, too. 27:56.000 --> 27:58.000 And I'm convinced that you've done everything possible 27:58.000 --> 28:00.000 to produce the kind of cigarette you want. 28:00.000 --> 28:02.000 Just as we on Dragnet try to bring you 28:02.000 --> 28:04.000 the kind of entertainment you want. 28:04.000 --> 28:08.000 In my honest opinion, Fatima is the best of all long cigarettes. 28:08.000 --> 28:10.000 But frankly, my opinion doesn't count 28:10.000 --> 28:12.000 because Fatimas must please you. 28:12.000 --> 28:15.000 That's why I suggest you buy a pack of Fatimas tomorrow 28:15.000 --> 28:19.000 so you can prove to yourself that Fatimas are extra mild 28:19.000 --> 28:26.000 cigarettes. I'm convinced that you'll discover what I did. In Fatima, the difference is quality. 28:33.320 --> 28:37.380 Henry Ellsworth Ross was tried and found guilty on two counts of murder in the first degree 28:37.380 --> 28:41.720 and received the death sentence. While he indicated that he had murdered the other ten 28:41.720 --> 28:45.920 men, he refused to give any further information regarding the killings or what he had done 28:45.920 --> 28:50.480 with the bodies. Ross was executed in the lethal gas chamber at the State Penitentiary, 28:50.480 --> 28:57.480 San Quentin, California. You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from 29:00.280 --> 29:05.280 official files. Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police, W.H. Parker, 29:05.280 --> 29:12.280 Los Angeles Police Department. Fatima cigarettes, best of all long cigarettes, has brought you 29:12.280 --> 29:19.280 Dragnet portions transcribed from Los Angeles. Now more excitement with Counterspy on NBC.