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DRAGNET, the documented drama of an actual crime. For the next 30 minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department,

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you will travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official police files.

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From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, DRAGNET is the story of your police force in action.

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It was Sunday, March 3rd. It was raining in Los Angeles. We were working the night watch out of robbery detail.

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My partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Harry Didion, captain of robbery. My name's Friday.

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I was on the way back from the neighborhood bakery shop and it was 8.45 a.m. when I got to Collis Avenue.

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Number 4656.

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Joe. Yeah.

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What happened? Wasn't the bakery open? Oh yeah, it was open. I got the stuff right here.

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They have any raisin bread? Yeah, right here. How about the butter home?

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No, they don't make those on Sundays anymore. I got bear claws instead. Okay, well let's get this stuff open.

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Okay. Oh, I see where we are. Where do you keep your eggs? In the refrigerator, right over there.

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Find them? Yeah, I got them.

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You know Joe, I don't like to say anything, but I can't keep coming over here to your place every morning.

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Well, it was your idea and nobody asked you. Yeah, but I know how you are. You don't know how to cook a decent breakfast for yourself.

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Is the coffee ready yet? Uh-uh. No, it's not working yet.

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Hey, you sure there's nothing wrong with this spot? It's been on for 10 minutes. Yeah, you forgot to plug it in.

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Oh, uh-huh. Now let's see. Well, what do you want?

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Well, I better put the toast on. You always make the toast before you cook the eggs? Yeah.

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You remember yesterday the toast was pretty cold. Oh, yeah, that's right. I better hold off for a minute. Yeah.

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Scrambled eggs okay? Well, we had them yesterday. Oh, yeah, that's right. Is that the only way you know how to fix them?

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I know what you'd like. One of my Spanish almonds.

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When did you say your mother was coming back? Oh, in about three more days. Yeah, that'll make a week, won't it? Yeah, that's right.

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Well, I guess I can work something out with Amy. Wife doesn't like me coming over here every morning like this.

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Well, I told you before I can make out all right here. Oh, I know how it is. You think you're imposing. You'd be lost without your can opener.

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Say, is this arm of the year is going to take very long? We haven't got very much time, you know. I'll have it on your plate in a jiffy.

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What time are we supposed to see those victims? 930 at the county hospital. Where's your tomatoes? In the refrigerator. Oh, uh-huh.

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Twenty-three jobs in three months. Those guys really move, don't they? Yeah.

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Nice tomatoes, Joe. That Hollenbeck job last night. Vicious punks. Yeah, there's no reason to work the old man over the way they did. What did the doctor say?

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Well, he's going to get over it all right, but they kicked out all of his front teeth. He's 50 years old. Same M.O. Every job.

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Aren't you going to peel those? No, skin's good for you. Now, uh, you got a nice big Bermuda on you. Oh, yeah, I'll get you one.

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Kids. 19, 20-year-old stick-up artists. Knock a man's senses for a half a dollar. Robbing, slugging, kicking their way around the city. Yeah.

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This will be one bunch I'll be glad to catch up with. Here's your onion. Good.

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Well, now, wait a minute. You're going to peel that, aren't you? And lose half the flavor? I don't know. I always peel them.

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I see. There you go. Now, mix the whole works together.

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You're going to put it in that pan on the stove there? Yes, sir. Looks pretty hot, doesn't it? It's smoking. Joe, that's the way you cook a Spanish omelet. Hot, fire, and fast.

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Into the pan. The whole trick in making a good Spanish omelet is you've got to work fast.

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Where are all those little brown flakes on the top there? Oh, the onion skins. No, I don't know. That doesn't look right to me.

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The way that you taste it. I'll get it. Friday talking. Elton Young, Joe. Romero there with you? Yeah, he's here.

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You two are supposed to see those robbery victims at the county hospital this morning, aren't you? Yeah, at 9.30.

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We'll cancel that out. Gonzales and Powers are covering on that. Yeah, I'll come.

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Just got the call. South Grand and Colonial 211, slugging. Same description. Looks like the kid bandits.

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All right, we'll get right on it. It's a new stand near the corner. Right. Bye.

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Look at that, Joe. I just took it out of the pan. Yeah. Best Spanish omelet I ever made.

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That's too bad. We're not going to have time to eat it.

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8.55 a.m. We left the house and drove to the scene of the holdup, one door from the corner of South Grand and Colonial Avenue.

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The victims were Mr. and Mrs. John Wilden, proprietors of a small newspaper and soft drink stand just off the intersection.

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Mrs. Wilden was being carried to a waiting ambulance when we got there. She was unconscious.

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From her forehead to her chin, her face was a swollen mass of welts. Her nose had been broken and she had fractures of the jaw and cheekbone.

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Her husband, John Wilden, age 56, had a single bruise on his forehead over his left eye.

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We questioned him after the ambulance attendants gave him first aid.

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His description of the holdup men tallied almost perfectly. One was a redhead, another one had dark hair, both about the same height.

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I'd say they're as tall as you are, Officer.

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That's just, Joe, kid bandit. Yeah.

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Had you ever seen either one of these men before, Mr. Wilden, around the neighborhood, maybe?

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No, I never did. I don't know why they picked on Madeline and me for a holdup. We'd never been robbed before.

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We just got this little hole in the wall here. Don't see how it could look worthwhile to any crook.

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You usually open up this early on Sunday morning? Oh, yes. Sunday's one of our big days, you see.

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We handle all the Sunday papers. You get our big trade from the people going to church up the street there. St. Joseph's?

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Yes, sir, I see.

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After the church lets out, most of the people head down this way and pick up the Sunday papers.

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We sell about 15, 20 papers after every mass. It's a nice little business, you know.

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We close up after 12, 15.

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Well, when did the holdup take place? Can you remember that, sir?

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Well, I'd say 8.30, a few minutes after. I went down to the Athens Cafe down the street there.

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I wanted to get some change. I left Madeline here to handle the counter. Madeline, that's my wife.

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Yes, sir.

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And when I got back, she wasn't behind the counter. I took a look behind here and saw a cash box laying on the cement there, empty.

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I didn't know what to think.

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What'd you do then?

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Well, I pushed through this door here. There's a little dinky store room just back at the counter. It's where we keep our supplies, candy and soda water.

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You mind if we take a look, sir?

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No, no, no, come right ahead.

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You see, when I came in, first thing I saw was Madeline. That's my wife. And she was lying there on the boards moaning, had her hands over her face.

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The two young fellows are standing over. Both had guns.

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Mm-hmm. What did they do when they saw you?

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When they grabbed me and asked for money. I told them I didn't have any. I began to holler for help. One of them slugged me with his gun, then they ran out.

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Still a little shaky. You mind if I sit down?

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Go ahead, sir. Oh, here. Let me get this box for you.

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Thank you.

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Say, I wonder if we could get you some water or maybe a cold drink from the cooler.

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Oh, no, no. But you'll find a half-pipe behind those cases over there, a little brandy I keep put away.

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Over here?

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Yes, that's right. Behind those cases. I don't usually drink on Sundays. This is an exception, I guess.

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Here you are, Mr. Wilman. What's that on the floor there, Ben?

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Over near your foot there.

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Oh, I see. Oh, the lights are not very good.

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Oh, a book of matches.

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Are these yours, Mr. Wilman? These matches?

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No, I don't carry them.

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Oh, your wife's, I guess, huh?

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I don't think so. Neither one of them smoke.

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What's that ad printed on the back of you?

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Big Ten Cafe. Steaks, chopped, short orders. Open all night. West Pico.

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Do you have cigarettes and cigars here, sir?

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No, sir.

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Candied soft drinks and newspapers, that's all.

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Oh, inside of the match book cover, Joe. Some scribbling order.

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George Bell, S. Cameron, 5th and Alameda. Do you recognize this at all, Mr. Wilman?

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Big Ten Cafe. No, I've never been there.

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How about the names here, inside the cover?

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George Bell, S. Cameron. No, I've never heard of them.

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When you first came in here, Mr. Wilman, do you remember where the holdup men were standing?

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Not too well. Well, one was over there and one was over there, I think.

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Could be, Joe. One of them might have dropped it.

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Trace them from that match book. Do you think that's possible?

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I don't know yet.

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How would you trace them that way? Analysis? Some kind of scientific work?

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No, sir. Leg work.

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928 A.M. We call latent fingerprints. As soon as they arrived, we dropped Mr. Wilden off at Georgia Street Receiving Hospital to see his wife.

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Ben and I drove back to the office.

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We had the crime report typed up and got out a supplementary broadcast on our original APB.

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We asked Frank Cunningham and R. and I to run the names George Bell and S. Cameron through the files for a possible mate.

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We checked with a restaurant advertised on the cover of the match book, The Big Ten Cafe.

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The manager of the cafe failed to recognize either the names on the match book or the descriptions of the holdup men.

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952 We checked back in at the office.

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I'm getting it. Robb R. and Mel?

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Yeah, Frank. Uh-huh. Uh-huh, yeah. Good, right. Thank you.

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Cunningham?

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We got a mic on the name George Bell, another one for Sam Cameron. Both of them run together.

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Got a long juvenile record.

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Good. You got an address on them?

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Yeah. Won't be hard to run down.

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What do you mean?

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Main Jail.

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Five days before, George Bell, a laborer, and Samuel Cameron, a part-time jewelry salesman, had been booked at the main jail on charges of being drunk and disorderly.

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The day after his arrest, Cameron was bailed out. Bell was still in the drunk tank.

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Ben and I went down to the main jail and talked to him. He didn't fit the description of either of the bandits.

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It was very cooperative, but he stated that he'd been very drunk and he couldn't remember too much.

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Just don't know, Sergeant. Sam and I went out and tied one on. When it came to, we were here in the drunk tank.

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You have no idea at all how your names got on this match book.

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I'm trying to think. It was pretty well heated up, Sam and me. That's another thing, that dirty Sam.

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What do you mean?

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He gets a friend of his to come up here and bail him out. Think he'd do anything for me?

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No. I bought the liquor. He lets me sit here now. Dirty Sam.

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You think he might remember about that match book?

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I don't know. I'm disgusted with him. If you see him, you can tell him that. Just let him know he's off my list.

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How about the address here on the match book, George? It says 5th and Alameda. Doesn't that mean anything to you?

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Were you and Cameron hitting some of the spots around that area?

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No, we were messing around over in dog town. Didn't get down by Alameda at all.

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Well, must have some tie in for you. 5th and Alameda?

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No. Only guy I know down there is Sanchez. Wait a minute. Just a minute. Sanchez. Gus Sanchez, sure.

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I wanted to see Gus. I thought he'd put up bail for us.

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Yeah, go ahead.

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I got it now. I think I have anyway. It was the morning after I woke up here in the tank.

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I was a big head, you know. Really whipped. Now, first thing I thought I was out, I figured Gus Sanchez might pop for bail.

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I find him on you know. Gus works at the bar at 5th and Alameda. That's it.

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Well, how's it tie in?

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Well, this other mooch is in the tank next to me. Somebody's popped bail for him. He's getting out in an hour.

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So I asked him to call Gus for me and he said he would. He wrote my name down and he wrote down Sam's too.

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Dirty Sam. And he took down Gus's address. Yeah, 5th and Alameda.

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You remember what this man looked like when it took your name?

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Oh, let's see. No, everything was going around. He was kind of tall.

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Would you remember him if you saw him again?

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Guy did me a favor. I'd remember him. Not like that dirty Sam.

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Well, how about his name? Did he tell you that?

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No, I didn't ask him. I should have.

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You sure about the day this man was released?

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Positive. The same day I came in. Tuesday.

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Okay, Bill. Thanks very much. We'll be checking back with you.

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Yeah, all right. Hey, what about this guy? You gotta bail for him.

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Well, maybe if he's the one we want.

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Yeah, what'd he do?

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He lost his matches.

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Ben and I left the drunk tank and went down the hall to check with the officer in charge.

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We paged through the release book and found that seven men had been bailed out or discharged from the jail on the previous Tuesday.

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We went back to the record bureau and I had them pull the mug shots on all seven men.

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Then we took the pictures back to the drunk tank and showed them to George Bell.

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No. No. No. Yeah, this one I think. Can't be sure. I think that's him.

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George Bell attentively identified the mug shot of a Fred Gunther, WMA, 21 years old.

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Gunther had a previous record of grand theft auto, purse snatching, and drunk charges.

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His picture matched closely with the description of one of the suspects.

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Four a.m. We contacted the kid bandit's most recent victim, John Wilden, at his home.

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We asked him to look at the same group of mug shots that were shown to George Bell.

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Here. Here, this here. He's one of them.

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You sure, Mr. Wilden?

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He's the one who slugged me. Who is he?

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His name's Fred Gunther.

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Oh, then you know him. You want me to identify him?

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Yes, sir, when we find him.

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Monday, March 4th, 9 a.m. We checked out the suspect Fred Gunther. No trace of him at any of his previous addresses.

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We began checking with the other victims of the kid bandits.

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After a day and a half of leg work, we sat down and figured out the results.

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More than two-thirds of the victims definitely tabbed Gunther as one of the hold-up men.

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The next step was the record bureau.

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We had them pull the packages on every one of Gunther's known friends and associates. There were more than 30 of them.

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We had mug shots pulled on each one of them and made the rounds of the victims for the second time.

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Approximately half of the victims had singled out one picture as that of Gunther's partner in the hold-ups.

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We pulled the package on the man and checked his mama sheet. His name was Harold Reimers, WMA, age 19.

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Previous record included. Car stripping and one charge ADW, no conviction.

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Friday, March 8th. We continued our check of the friends and associates known to the two suspects, Gunther and Reimers.

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We got nowhere. Two weeks passed.

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On March 23rd, we got a tip from an informant about a girlfriend of Fred Gunther's, a vocalist working at a downtown dance hall during intermissions.

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Long hall. Yeah. One more flight.

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Climb four flights of stairs and then they expect you to dance.

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Well, I guess this is it.

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Yeah, come on. Big enough floor, huh? Well, it shows a little where. The place has been here for years.

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Look at those walls and that ceiling. Sure could use a fresh coat of paint. Is her name Stanley? Is that right? Yeah, that's it.

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Excuse me. Is your name Lorraine Stanley? Yeah, that's right. Sweet Lorraine, that's my billing. You with the band?

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No, we're police officers. I'd like to talk to you for a minute if we can. Sure, all right. I was just rehearsing a little. What's it about, officer?

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Do you know a Fred Gunther, Miss Stanley? Fred? Yeah, I know him. I used to be engaged to Fred. You happen to know where he is now?

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No, I don't. Guess I haven't heard from him in three, four months. Usually looks me up when I'm in town. Maybe sore about something, I don't know.

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Was he contacted you at all? Not since I got back from Bakersfield a month ago. I played 32 weeks in Bakersfield, the Ramble Inn. Sure hated to leave. Nice place.

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Where does Gunther stay in town? Do you happen to know that? Used to be that hotel on South Flower. Called him there, but they said he moved.

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He looks to like Fred a lot. Not enough to marry, though. Do you have any idea where he might have gone, where we could contact him?

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No, I really don't. Nothing wrong is here, but I'm afraid I mean... No, it's just a routine investigation. We'd like to talk to him.

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What's it about, can you tell me? It's a robbery investigation. We want to locate Gunther. Do you happen to know any of his friends here in the city?

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No. Maybe that's why he didn't call. He's in trouble. Robbery? Is that it? Well, we'd just like to talk to him, that's all.

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Well, if he's done something wrong, I'm not going to hide him. I can't afford to get mixed up here. I've got a career to think about. I've worked too hard to throw it away.

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Well, how about the places Gunther usually visits, Miss Stanley Bar's Restrooms? You know any of those?

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Yeah, I remember a few. I can give him the names if you like. Poor Fred. I hope he didn't do it for me. Ma'am?

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Oh, Fred says he's in love with me. I don't know. He thinks I want money. Maybe that's why he's doing it. I told him, but he never believed me. All I want is my career.

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What do you think Gunther might come around here to see you? Probably. He usually does when I'm in town. How about where you're living?

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I'm staying at a different hotel this trip. He doesn't know where he is. Poor Fred. He's going to be awfully disappointed.

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How do you mean?

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Oh, he said he was going to get money and buy a ring. He's going to marry me this time. Poor Fred.

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This is my new theme, officer. Is she like it?

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Uh-huh. Just one more thing, Miss Stanley. If Gunther contacts you by phone, will you be sure and let us know?

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All right. I'll do that. It's your beautiful theme, isn't it? Piano player Bakersfield, he wrote it for me. Beautiful.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Oh, Fred understands. I don't want to hurt him, but I can't marry him. How do I make him understand? How do I explain it?

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I don't think you'll have to, ma'am.

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Before we left Lorraine Stanley, we told her that if Gunther should contact her, not to tell him that she'd talked with us.

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Steakouts were placed on the dance hall where she worked and at the hotel where she was staying. Gunther's known hangouts were also covered.

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The next night, the kid bandits were back in business. They hit twice, a liquor store on Franklin Avenue and a tavern on South Flower.

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Gunther and Reimers were again identified as the two suspects. The stakeouts continued. The search went on.

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Four days later, we got a tip from the proprietor of a shoeshine stand on West Temple where Gunther's partner, Harold Reimers, had been seen entering a small hotel up the street from his stand.

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We drove over and checked with a desk clerk. He identified Reimers' mugshot. He told us the suspect wasn't in, but that he was expected back that night.

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Ben and I went on stakeout in his hotel room. 7 p.m. Reimers failed to show.

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Getting a little hungry, Joe. You?

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Yeah. What time you got now?

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20 after 7. Stomach's starting to growl.

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And what's that, a parade?

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Well, I don't think so. Let's see.

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Oh, it's the Salvation Army Band.

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Oh, yeah. Saturday night. Might as well check the office, huh? See if we can't get a relief.

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Well...

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Would you get me Michigan 5211, please?

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Michigan 5211. Yeah, we'll pay for it. Thank you.

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Would you close the window, George? It's a little noisy.

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Yeah, okay.

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Robbery, please.

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You know, Young, this is Romero. How's that? You sure?

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Okay, thank you.

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Gunther and Reimers, they pulled a holdup down South Lane.

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When?

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20 minutes ago. Gunther got away.

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Yeah.

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They got Reimer.

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7.45 p.m. Ben and I got back to the city hall and went to the interrogation room. Together with Young and Carr from robbery, we tried to question the suspect, Harold Reimers.

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We talked to him for over an hour. He refused to tell us anything. We took him to the main jail where he was booked on 211 P.C.

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9.15 p.m. We went back to the office.

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Hello, Gunther. Robbery, Romero. Just a minute. For you, Joe.

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Okay, thanks. Friday talking.

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Sergeant, this is Lorraine Stanley.

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Yeah, Miss Stanley.

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I'm over at work. The dance hall, you remember?

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Yes, ma'am. Anything wrong?

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Well, Fred just called me, Sergeant. I told the officers here. Fred Gunther?

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Yes, ma'am. Where is he? Did he say?

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No, all he said was he wanted to see me.

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Yeah?

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He said he was coming right over.

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9.25 p.m. We called the men on stakeout at the dance hall and alerted them.

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Elton, Young, Ben, and I got in the car and drove over. We checked with the detail on stakeout.

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Gunther hadn't been spotted, but because of the large crowd entering and leaving the dance hall, it was possible that he could have gotten in unnoticed.

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We talked to the Stanley girl. She hadn't seen or heard anything further from the suspect.

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Ben and I staked out in her dressing room where Gunther said he'd meet the girl.

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It was a small converted store room at one end of the dance floor just behind the bandstand.

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Marine Stanley was on during the intermission. We waited.

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What have you got, Young?

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Almost 10.30.

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This guy must feel pretty sure of himself. He pulled a robbery. He's almost picked up.

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And three hours later, he makes a date to show in a public play.

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Well, he hasn't shown yet. I'm not too sure about that Stanley girl.

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How do you mean?

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Well, she's that big an attraction for him.

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This is the only way out, huh, besides that fire escape off the alley.

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Yeah, Young's covering the alley.

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Come on.

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Down here, Joe!

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He got by me. He's up the alley behind one of those trucks.

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He can't go far. It's a dead end. Stay here, Young, and cut him off. You all right?

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Yeah, he slugged me, knocked me down. I didn't see him in the dark.

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Come on, Ben.

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Yeah.

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Easy, huh?

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Come on.

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You're dark.

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Yeah.

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Watch it behind that truck!

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Hey, Groome, I'm coming out!

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Watch it, Joe!

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I'm gonna have to, Young!

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Don't shoot! Don't shoot!

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All right, stand still.

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You want to stay with him, Young? We'll call him.

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Yeah, right. Post this place, that little cafe off the alley to the left.

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Thanks. Come on, Ben.

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Yeah.

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You want to hear this?

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Yeah, I guess they got a phone inside. Come on.

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Wait a minute.

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As soon as we get gunned to downtown, we're gonna come right back here.

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What for?

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Take a look at that fry cook in the window there.

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Yeah, what about him?

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That fellow makes his Spanish armament exactly like I do.

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The story you have just heard was true.

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Only the names were changed to protect the innocent.

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On July 19th, trial was held in Superior Court, Department 86,

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City and County of Los Angeles, State of California.

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In a moment, the results of that trial.

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Now, here is our star, Jack Webb.

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Thank you.

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Fred Gunther and Harold Reimers were tried and convicted on several counts of robbery and assault.

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They received sentences as prescribed by law,

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and are now serving their terms in the state penitentiary.

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You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from official filings.

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