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It was windy in Los Angeles. 02:00.640 --> 02:03.640 We were working the day watch out of Georgia Street Juvenile Bureau. 02:03.640 --> 02:07.640 My partner is Ben Romero. The boss is Captain Bowling, Commander Juvenile Division. 02:07.640 --> 02:12.640 My name is Friday. It was 2.45 p.m. when we got to Charter High School. 02:12.640 --> 02:17.640 Main entrance. 02:17.640 --> 02:18.640 Which way Joe? 02:18.640 --> 02:20.640 I don't know. We can ask this boy. Hey son. 02:20.640 --> 02:21.640 Yeah? 02:21.640 --> 02:22.640 Where's the principal's office? 02:22.640 --> 02:24.640 Straight down the hall. Last door on the left. 02:24.640 --> 02:26.640 Thank you. What's all the noise about? 02:26.640 --> 02:29.640 Football rally. We're playing Piedmont today. Probably lose. 02:29.640 --> 02:34.640 Can't beat confidence like that. Kids are sure funny nowadays. 02:34.640 --> 02:37.640 Man, check that sign. 02:37.640 --> 02:41.640 Junior prom. Dollar 25 per cup. 02:41.640 --> 02:43.640 Makes you feel old, doesn't it? 02:43.640 --> 02:45.640 I never did go to those high school dances. 02:45.640 --> 02:46.640 How come? 02:46.640 --> 02:53.640 Couldn't dance. Wife says I still can. 02:53.640 --> 02:54.640 Yes sir? 02:54.640 --> 02:55.640 Like to see Mr. Chase? 02:55.640 --> 02:56.640 Could I have your names please? 02:56.640 --> 02:57.640 Romero and Friday. 02:57.640 --> 03:00.640 Oh yes, he's expecting you. You can go right in. That door there. 03:00.640 --> 03:06.640 Thank you. 03:06.640 --> 03:07.640 Mr. Chase? 03:07.640 --> 03:08.640 Yes? 03:08.640 --> 03:10.640 My name's Friday. I talked to you on the phone. 03:10.640 --> 03:12.640 Oh yes, certainly Sergeant. Have a chair. 03:12.640 --> 03:15.640 Thank you. This is my partner Ben Romero. 03:15.640 --> 03:16.640 How do you do sir? 03:16.640 --> 03:17.640 How are you Mr. Chase? 03:17.640 --> 03:19.640 Sit down. Sit down. 03:19.640 --> 03:22.640 Certainly glad to see you gentlemen. I'm at the end of my rope. 03:22.640 --> 03:25.640 Would you mind briefing us Mr. Chase? How did all this trouble start? 03:25.640 --> 03:28.640 I don't know how it started. I don't know why. 03:28.640 --> 03:32.640 But here's the result Sergeant. This dress, blood stains on it. 03:32.640 --> 03:34.640 What's the story? 03:34.640 --> 03:38.640 A woman stormed in here and said her daughter came home from school yesterday wearing this dress. 03:38.640 --> 03:42.640 And she told her mother she'd been knifed here at the school. 03:42.640 --> 03:44.640 How many cases like this have you had? 03:44.640 --> 03:46.640 Twenty-one in the past three weeks. 03:46.640 --> 03:47.640 Why didn't you notify us? 03:47.640 --> 03:49.640 Believe me Sergeant, I didn't know which way to turn. 03:49.640 --> 03:54.640 When I first learned about these knifings, I wanted to call in the police, but some of the girls who'd been cut, 03:54.640 --> 03:59.640 the parents didn't want it reported. The publicity, the notoriety, they didn't want it. 03:59.640 --> 04:03.640 Hope you realize Mr. Chase that it's a pretty serious business. 04:03.640 --> 04:06.640 Believe me I did realize. What could I do? 04:06.640 --> 04:10.640 The knifings had to be stopped. The parents didn't want them reported. 04:10.640 --> 04:13.640 I've tried everything humanly possible to find out who's responsible. 04:13.640 --> 04:15.640 What have you tried Mr. Chase? 04:15.640 --> 04:18.640 Well I called on some of the older students from the boys council. 04:18.640 --> 04:21.640 I placed them all over the grounds of the buildings and told them to keep an eye out. 04:21.640 --> 04:22.640 No results then? 04:22.640 --> 04:26.640 The knifings have gone right on. This past week they've even gotten worse. 04:26.640 --> 04:28.640 Oh that reminds me, just a moment please. 04:28.640 --> 04:29.640 Yes Mr. Chase. 04:29.640 --> 04:32.640 Doris, would you get Jim Travis please, have him come to my office right away. 04:32.640 --> 04:34.640 Yes Mr. Chase. 04:34.640 --> 04:37.640 Travis is head of the boys council. He helped organize the system of guards. 04:37.640 --> 04:39.640 He might be able to give you some information. 04:39.640 --> 04:42.640 You said a minute ago that the situation has been worse this past week. 04:42.640 --> 04:44.640 You mean the knifings have gotten more frequent? 04:44.640 --> 04:48.640 More frequent and more serious. One girl was cut very badly this morning. 04:48.640 --> 04:49.640 She had to be sent home. 04:49.640 --> 04:52.640 Are most of these girls cut in pretty much the same manner? 04:52.640 --> 04:58.640 A school nurse treated some of them. She says it looked to her as though the girls had been slashed with a very sharp knife. 04:58.640 --> 05:00.640 Probably a razor. 05:00.640 --> 05:02.640 Is there any definite time pattern to these knifings? 05:02.640 --> 05:06.640 All of them happen between periods when the students change classes. 05:06.640 --> 05:11.640 The corridors are pretty well crowded and that's why it's so difficult to pin it down to any one person. 05:11.640 --> 05:16.640 I see. How about the victims themselves Mr. Chase? Is there any set pattern there? 05:16.640 --> 05:18.640 That's what has me frightened. 05:18.640 --> 05:19.640 How do you mean? 05:19.640 --> 05:24.640 Most of the victims are rather pretty girls. Whoever is doing this seems to have a preference for them. 05:24.640 --> 05:28.640 It's frightening when you think of what kind of mind the person must have. 05:28.640 --> 05:30.640 It's a little more than frightening Mr. Chase. 05:30.640 --> 05:33.640 A person with a knife must be a mental case, probably a dangerous one. 05:33.640 --> 05:36.640 I don't think he's going to be satisfied with just knifing the girls. 05:36.640 --> 05:37.640 Killing? 05:37.640 --> 05:39.640 Possible if we let it go much longer. 05:39.640 --> 05:41.640 You wanted to see me Mr. Chase? 05:41.640 --> 05:42.640 Come in Jim. 05:42.640 --> 05:45.640 I would have come sooner. I was tied up with a rally committee. 05:45.640 --> 05:48.640 Jim, this is Sergeant Friday and Sergeant Romero, police officers. 05:48.640 --> 05:53.640 They're here to investigate the knifings. I thought maybe you'd be able to help out with some information. 05:53.640 --> 05:58.640 Well, I still have the fellows on the council watching the corridors. We haven't seen anything yet. 05:58.640 --> 06:01.640 Well, if you have any time after the rally Jim, we'd like to have you show us around. 06:01.640 --> 06:02.640 Okay Sergeant. 06:02.640 --> 06:05.640 Is the school nurse still in her office? She liked out for her too. 06:05.640 --> 06:08.640 I think so. Jim, when does Miss Wesley go home? 06:08.640 --> 06:12.640 3.30 on Thursday Mr. Chase. I'll tell her to stay on a few minutes. 06:12.640 --> 06:15.640 That's fine. We'll meet you outside the office here. 06:15.640 --> 06:16.640 Okay, I'll see you later then. 06:16.640 --> 06:19.640 Right. Is the school out for the day? 06:19.640 --> 06:22.640 Yes it is. I guess we'll have to wait a morning to interview the victims. 06:22.640 --> 06:27.640 The first class is at 8 o'clock. I'll have the girls assemble in the classroom next to my office. 06:27.640 --> 06:30.640 Alright Mr. Chase. Thank you. 06:33.640 --> 06:37.640 I'll be right back Doris. See you gentlemen out. 06:37.640 --> 06:40.640 Looks like the rally is just breaking up. 06:40.640 --> 06:43.640 3 o'clock now. The game is at 3.30. 06:43.640 --> 06:46.640 The kids are hurting Jim up the corridor. 06:47.640 --> 06:49.640 Come on. Come on. 06:51.640 --> 06:54.640 Let us through here. Let us through please. 06:54.640 --> 06:59.640 Alright. The rest of you go about your business. Go on now. 06:59.640 --> 07:01.640 What's the matter young lady? What's the trouble? 07:01.640 --> 07:04.640 Patty, Mr. Jones. Patty Larson. She's fainted. 07:04.640 --> 07:05.640 What's the matter with her? 07:05.640 --> 07:08.640 Look at her dress. It's covered with blood. 07:10.640 --> 07:19.640 An ambulance was called and the injured girl was taken to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital where she was treated for a cut on her right forearm and a deep slash across her hips. 07:19.640 --> 07:21.640 She was not in serious condition. 07:21.640 --> 07:27.640 It was the doctor's opinion that the wounds had been inflicted either by a very sharp knife or more probably a razor. 07:27.640 --> 07:34.640 A detail of plain clothesmen were dispatched to Charter High School to keep the grounds and quarters under strict surveillance until further notice. 07:34.640 --> 07:43.640 At 7.30 the next morning, policewoman Lorraine Jensen, Ben and I met at the high school with Principal Chase and Jim Travers, the head of the Boys' Council. 07:43.640 --> 07:48.640 By 9 a.m., all of the 21 knifing victims were assembled in one of the empty classrooms. 07:48.640 --> 07:51.640 Policewoman Jensen outlined our plan of questioning. 07:51.640 --> 07:54.640 May I have your attention please? 07:54.640 --> 07:58.640 This isn't going to take very long girls, but I will have to ask you to cooperate with us. 07:58.640 --> 08:03.640 Try to remember every detail of the time and the place that the knifings occurred. 08:03.640 --> 08:05.640 Do you all have a report for them to write on? 08:05.640 --> 08:07.640 Yeah, they're all set. 08:07.640 --> 08:10.640 We'd like to have you write three things. 08:10.640 --> 08:14.640 First, exactly where you were when you were injured. 08:14.640 --> 08:17.640 After that, write the date and the time. 08:17.640 --> 08:19.640 Make that just as close as you can remember. 08:19.640 --> 08:21.640 I don't remember, do you? You're not going to know what you're writing. 08:21.640 --> 08:25.640 At the bottom of the page, write the name of the person you suspect might have cut you. 08:25.640 --> 08:28.640 Your answer will be kept confidential. 08:28.640 --> 08:30.640 Please don't compare notes of the girl next to you. 08:30.640 --> 08:33.640 We want your version, not your neighbor's. 08:33.640 --> 08:34.640 Sergeant. 08:34.640 --> 08:35.640 Yeah, driver? 08:35.640 --> 08:36.640 Five minute warning bell. 08:36.640 --> 08:37.640 Yeah, okay. 08:37.640 --> 08:38.640 All right? 08:38.640 --> 08:39.640 Yeah, Joe. 08:39.640 --> 08:41.640 There's a recess coming up. We want to check the quarters. 08:41.640 --> 08:42.640 Can you make out alone for a little while? 08:42.640 --> 08:43.640 Sure, you too. Go ahead. 08:43.640 --> 08:45.640 We can check the slips when you get back. 08:45.640 --> 08:46.640 All right, let's go, ma'am. 08:46.640 --> 08:47.640 Yeah. 08:53.640 --> 08:54.640 Top of the stairs is best, Sergeant. 08:54.640 --> 08:55.640 Okay. 08:55.640 --> 08:59.640 If you stand back a little from the railing, no one down below can tell if they're being watched, 08:59.640 --> 09:00.640 either. 09:00.640 --> 09:01.640 Okay. 09:01.640 --> 09:05.640 I'm pretty much interested in police work. You know, the lie detector and stuff? 09:05.640 --> 09:06.640 Uh-huh. 09:06.640 --> 09:08.640 Will you keep on going here? 09:08.640 --> 09:09.640 One more flight. 09:09.640 --> 09:10.640 All right. 09:10.640 --> 09:13.640 I wrote a paper once on the lie detector for our physiology class. 09:13.640 --> 09:14.640 The teacher liked it. 09:14.640 --> 09:15.640 Did that sell? 09:15.640 --> 09:16.640 Yeah. 09:16.640 --> 09:19.640 I've been reading how they take fingerprints, cloth imprints and all that. 09:19.640 --> 09:20.640 Pretty interesting. 09:20.640 --> 09:22.640 Here we are. 09:22.640 --> 09:25.640 We can keep an eye on the whole corridor from here. 09:25.640 --> 09:26.640 Okay. 09:26.640 --> 09:29.640 What detail do you officers work on? 09:29.640 --> 09:30.640 Georgia Street juvenile. 09:30.640 --> 09:33.640 You know Lee Jones or Ray Pinker? 09:33.640 --> 09:34.640 Oh, yeah. 09:34.640 --> 09:35.640 I've read a lot about the crime lab. 09:35.640 --> 09:38.640 Why don't you come downtown some afternoon? We'll show you around. 09:38.640 --> 09:39.640 That'd be swell. 09:39.640 --> 09:40.640 Okay. 09:40.640 --> 09:43.640 Must be interesting, meeting all kinds of people and watching how they behave, you know. 09:43.640 --> 09:44.640 Yeah, it's interesting. 09:44.640 --> 09:50.640 During the recess, while the students moved from classroom to classroom, 09:50.640 --> 09:53.640 we kept the main corridor under close surveillance. 09:53.640 --> 09:56.640 The other men from juvenile bureau covered the rest of the corridors. 09:56.640 --> 10:01.640 We kept an eye on the main corridor during the third recess between periods at 11 a.m. 10:01.640 --> 10:03.640 Again, no results. 10:03.640 --> 10:08.640 At 1130, Travers went to check with the members of the boys' council to set up the noon time watch. 10:08.640 --> 10:13.640 Ben and I went back to the classroom on the main floor to check with policewoman Jensen. 10:13.640 --> 10:18.640 We helped her tally the results of the questioning of the girl victims that morning. 10:18.640 --> 10:19.640 Let's see. 10:19.640 --> 10:22.640 17, 18, 19. 10:22.640 --> 10:24.640 Well, that takes care of the lab. 10:24.640 --> 10:25.640 Let's see. 10:25.640 --> 10:28.640 There it is. Now what's it mean? 10:28.640 --> 10:32.640 Well, 12 say they were knifed on the main corridor, 10:32.640 --> 10:38.640 three knifed outside the building, four on the stairway, two in the classroom. 10:38.640 --> 10:41.640 The times, they list. Doesn't look like there's any pattern there. 10:41.640 --> 10:44.640 How about the suspects that they wrote down? 10:44.640 --> 10:45.640 That's even got me beat. 10:45.640 --> 10:49.640 We've got more of them than we have victims here. 10:49.640 --> 10:51.640 There's four pages of names. 10:51.640 --> 10:53.640 Some of the girls wrote down as many as five suspects. 10:53.640 --> 10:54.640 That's kind of helpful, huh? 10:54.640 --> 10:56.640 How many altogether? 10:56.640 --> 10:59.640 Let's see. 34. 10:59.640 --> 11:00.640 Oh, hi, Mr. J. 11:00.640 --> 11:02.640 Did you find out anything? 11:02.640 --> 11:04.640 Oh, it didn't turn out too well. Nothing definite. 11:04.640 --> 11:05.640 Terrible morning. 11:05.640 --> 11:07.640 Parents calling up newspapers. 11:07.640 --> 11:10.640 I don't know. Certainly out of my hands. 11:10.640 --> 11:12.640 Are there any assemblies scheduled for this afternoon? 11:12.640 --> 11:15.640 Yes, after the fifth period. Why? 11:15.640 --> 11:16.640 I think maybe a better cancel. 11:16.640 --> 11:19.640 It seems like every time the kids are crowded together, we just ask for trouble. 11:19.640 --> 11:21.640 No, all right. I'll have a cancel. 11:21.640 --> 11:23.640 Fine. Something else, Mr. Jason. 11:23.640 --> 11:26.640 The girls that we had in this room this morning, the victims, 11:26.640 --> 11:29.640 we'd like to have every one of them brought back here after the next class, can't we? 11:29.640 --> 11:32.640 All right, Sergeant. I'll have excuse slips sent to each one of them. 11:32.640 --> 11:34.640 Thank you, sir. 11:34.640 --> 11:36.640 Gives you the chills. 11:36.640 --> 11:38.640 Those kids getting cut up in broad daylight. 11:38.640 --> 11:40.640 Wherever it is, the guy's got a stomach for it. 11:40.640 --> 11:42.640 How do you know it's a guy? 11:42.640 --> 11:44.640 It's as good a guess as any. 11:44.640 --> 11:47.640 How about the school employees, the janitors, the rest of them? 11:47.640 --> 11:49.640 Checked them all out this morning. 11:49.640 --> 11:52.640 When we get the girls back here, we'll go through the same routine. 11:52.640 --> 11:55.640 One thing we missed the last time we talked to them. 11:55.640 --> 11:57.640 We asked them to pick suspects. 11:57.640 --> 12:00.640 We might have more luck if we have a bigger choice. 12:00.640 --> 12:01.640 How do you mean? 12:01.640 --> 12:04.640 Well, instead of asking to pick out somebody, 12:04.640 --> 12:08.640 we'll tell them to list the names of every person who was around them or near them when they were cut. 12:08.640 --> 12:11.640 It might work if we can spot a couple of repeats on the way. 12:11.640 --> 12:13.640 Sergeant, they want you downstairs. Hurry. 12:13.640 --> 12:14.640 Come on, Ben. What's the matter? 12:14.640 --> 12:16.640 It's terrible, terrible. I found her. 12:16.640 --> 12:17.640 You found who? 12:17.640 --> 12:18.640 Nabeti Price. 12:17.640 --> 12:18.640 Where? 12:18.640 --> 12:19.640 Downstairs, unconscious. I'm afraid. 12:19.640 --> 12:20.640 What do you mean you're afraid? 12:20.640 --> 12:22.640 I'm not sure she's alive. 12:25.640 --> 12:30.640 We located the unconscious girl in a corner of the basement near the rear entrance to the girl's locker room. 12:30.640 --> 12:32.640 She'd been cut severely about the face and arms. 12:32.640 --> 12:36.640 At Georgia Street Receiving Hospital, she was given an immediate blood transfusion. 12:36.640 --> 12:39.640 In addition to her wounds, she was also treated for shock. 12:39.640 --> 12:44.640 We questioned the victim. She stated that she did not see the person who attacked her. 12:44.640 --> 12:49.640 Later that afternoon, she was removed to her own home upon the advice of her family physician. 12:49.640 --> 12:54.640 1.35 p.m. Ben and I got back to the high school and checked in with policewoman Lorraine Jensen. 12:56.640 --> 12:58.640 How did the last station turn out, Lorraine? 12:58.640 --> 13:00.640 Way a lot better. It was a good idea, Joe. 13:00.640 --> 13:02.640 Yeah? How'd we come out? 13:02.640 --> 13:03.640 Pretty good. 13:03.640 --> 13:06.640 You have the list they made out. 21 of them. 13:06.640 --> 13:10.640 Each girl listed an average of eight persons around her at the time she was knifed. 13:10.640 --> 13:11.640 Yeah. 13:11.640 --> 13:14.640 There's one name that occurs on 19 of these 21 lists. 13:14.640 --> 13:16.640 Here, Joe. 13:17.640 --> 13:19.640 Jim Travers. 13:19.640 --> 13:21.640 The Police Investigation 13:29.640 --> 13:37.640 You are listening to Dragnet, the case history of a police investigation presented in the public interest by Fatima Cigarettes. 13:37.640 --> 13:44.640 If you smoke a long cigarette, it will be in your interest to listen to a typical case history of a Fatima smoker. 13:44.640 --> 13:49.640 It's the case of Mr. Frank Fenton, well-known author and Hollywood screenwriter. 13:49.640 --> 13:51.640 This is his actual signed statement. 13:51.640 --> 13:56.640 When a writer gets absorbed in his work, he loses track of time, smokes more than usual. 13:56.640 --> 13:58.640 And this happens often to me. 13:58.640 --> 14:02.640 As a result, I appreciate a mild cigarette. 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He was a fine athlete. He was from a well-to-do family. 15:03.640 --> 15:08.640 His father was the head of an engineering firm. His mother was from one of the oldest families in the city. 15:08.640 --> 15:14.640 During his three and a half years at Charter High, Jim Travers had maintained close to an A average in his studies. 15:14.640 --> 15:19.640 He'd been president of his class since freshman year, and he'd held numerous other class offices. 15:19.640 --> 15:22.640 We interviewed his teachers. They had nothing but praise for Travers. 15:22.640 --> 15:26.640 They tabbed him as a brilliant young man with an excellent future. 15:26.640 --> 15:29.640 We asked about Travers' friends, who we palled around with. 15:29.640 --> 15:36.640 We picked up a small Lee. We were told that he had very few, if any, close personal friends among the students, 15:36.640 --> 15:40.640 but he did have one girl at the high school he was especially fond of. 15:40.640 --> 15:45.640 Her name was Barbara Ferris, a tall, dark-haired girl, exceptionally pretty. 15:45.640 --> 15:48.640 Her scholastic record was almost as high as Travers'. 15:48.640 --> 15:56.640 2 p.m. Policewoman Lorraine Jensen and I interviewed the girl in a small room off the principal's office. 15:56.640 --> 16:00.640 We're not singling you out, Barbara. We're interviewing most of the girls in the upper classes. 16:00.640 --> 16:02.640 You mean about what's been happening around school? 16:02.640 --> 16:04.640 Yes, that's right. 16:04.640 --> 16:07.640 Well, I don't know much about it. I was talking to Jim Travers last night. 16:07.640 --> 16:09.640 He's a friend of mine. He told me why you were here. 16:09.640 --> 16:11.640 How long have you known Jim Travers, Barbara? 16:11.640 --> 16:13.640 Oh, since freshman year, I guess. 16:13.640 --> 16:14.640 Do you go steady with him? 16:14.640 --> 16:17.640 Well, we don't like to call it that, but I guess so. 16:17.640 --> 16:21.640 We go to the dances together. Sometimes we go to the show on weekends. 16:21.640 --> 16:22.640 Do you go out with him very often? 16:22.640 --> 16:26.640 No, not very often. Jim's usually pretty busy. He studies a lot. 16:26.640 --> 16:28.640 Does he go out with other girls? Do you know? 16:28.640 --> 16:32.640 Well, no, I don't. Once he went out with Betty Fisher, he said he didn't like her much. 16:32.640 --> 16:38.640 Betty's kind of a party girl. Jim likes to talk about things. You know, physiology, books, stuff like that. 16:38.640 --> 16:39.640 Do you get along with him pretty well? 16:39.640 --> 16:43.640 We get along fine. Sometimes he's moody, but I guess I am, too. 16:43.640 --> 16:46.640 Could you tell us a little more about Jim? What's he like? 16:46.640 --> 16:49.640 Well, what do you want to know that for? Is there anything wrong? 16:49.640 --> 16:52.640 No, it's just routine questioning, Barbara. We have to check on everybody. 16:52.640 --> 16:57.640 Oh, I see. Well, Jim's certainly all right. He's like the rest of the fellas at school, I guess. 16:57.640 --> 16:59.640 Only he's smarter than most of them. 16:59.640 --> 17:04.640 Well, is there anything maybe that's odd about him that you noticed? Anything very different? 17:04.640 --> 17:10.640 No, not that I've noticed. He's always been pretty bashful, up until this last year anyway. 17:10.640 --> 17:13.640 He's still that way sometimes when we go out on dates. 17:13.640 --> 17:15.640 How do you mean? How is he bashful? 17:15.640 --> 17:22.640 You know, about girls and things. He's always nice, though. He's not always thinking about necking and stuff like most of them. 17:22.640 --> 17:23.640 You mean he's not the romantic type? 17:23.640 --> 17:30.640 Well, he can be romantic when he wants to. Once we parked outside my house after a dance, he's always nice. 17:30.640 --> 17:31.640 It was just this one time. 17:31.640 --> 17:32.640 What was that? 17:32.640 --> 17:38.640 Well, he kissed me and then he twisted my arm behind my back. He kept twisting it for no reason. 17:38.640 --> 17:39.640 Yeah? 17:39.640 --> 17:42.640 I told him it hurt me, but he wouldn't let go. He kept twisting my arm. 17:42.640 --> 17:43.640 What did he say? 17:43.640 --> 17:48.640 That's what was so funny. He said, I like you better than any girl I know. 17:48.640 --> 17:49.640 Yeah? 17:49.640 --> 17:52.640 Then he said, that's why I'm hurting you. 17:55.640 --> 18:00.640 After talking with Barbara Ferris, we had a pretty good idea that Jim Travers was a suspect we wanted. 18:00.640 --> 18:07.640 But because of his fine background and his record, we realized that we'd have to prove beyond any question of a doubt that he was the guilty person. 18:07.640 --> 18:11.640 We had only one thing to go on besides the information Barbara Ferris had given us. 18:11.640 --> 18:17.640 During the morning recesses, when Travers was with Ben and I was watching the corridors, not one knifing took place. 18:17.640 --> 18:25.640 When we had left Travers and gone downstairs to check with Policewoman Jensen, a girl had been found slugged and cut at the rear of the girl's locker room. 18:25.640 --> 18:28.640 Two thirty p.m., Ben and I met with the suspect. 18:29.640 --> 18:31.640 How's it going, Sergeant? Any luck? 18:31.640 --> 18:34.640 Not much, Jim. What's that, another rally? 18:34.640 --> 18:35.640 No, a band practice. 18:35.640 --> 18:37.640 Junior proms tonight, isn't it? 18:37.640 --> 18:38.640 Yeah. 18:38.640 --> 18:43.640 You talked to the girl who was knacked downstairs, huh? Find out anything? 18:43.640 --> 18:48.640 No, not much. You want to stick with us this afternoon? I think you might be able to help us out. 18:48.640 --> 18:51.640 Sure, I've got the fellows on the council standing by if you want them. 18:51.640 --> 18:54.640 Fine. Let's go outside, huh? I've got something to tell you. 18:54.640 --> 18:57.640 Sure, okay. We can go out this way. 19:02.640 --> 19:06.640 I certainly appreciate your letting the tag along, hoping to help you. 19:06.640 --> 19:08.640 I think you can, Jim. 19:08.640 --> 19:13.640 When we talked to those girls this morning, we drew up a new list of possible suspects. 19:13.640 --> 19:14.640 Yeah? 19:14.640 --> 19:17.640 Funny thing, one of the names on the list was yours. 19:17.640 --> 19:19.640 Well, I've got nothing to hide. 19:19.640 --> 19:24.640 Well, we'll make a systematic check of each name on the list, most likely yours. 19:24.640 --> 19:30.640 Well, we have to go on the line detector? I'd like to try that. I never saw one. Only pictures of them. 19:30.640 --> 19:34.640 No, you won't have to go through that. It'll just be a couple of questions and then we're going to check your locker. 19:34.640 --> 19:36.640 Okay, I'd be glad to show you. 19:36.640 --> 19:38.640 Does this take us to the locker room? 19:38.640 --> 19:40.640 Yeah, we can cut through here. 19:40.640 --> 19:48.640 Say, when we were questioning those girls this morning, someone said that they saw you in different parts of the building when the nightings took place. 19:48.640 --> 19:50.640 What do you mean? 19:50.640 --> 19:54.640 Well, your location didn't exactly jive with your classroom schedule. 19:54.640 --> 19:59.640 In other words, your class was on the third floor, but you were seen down in the main corridor. Now, how do you account for that? 19:59.640 --> 20:05.640 Well, you see, I usually take walks between periods. Sitting in classrooms makes me nervous sometimes, you know. 20:05.640 --> 20:07.640 Here, I'll get the door. 20:07.640 --> 20:09.640 Okay. 20:11.640 --> 20:13.640 Any other questions I can answer, Sergeant? 20:13.640 --> 20:15.640 No, that's all. 20:15.640 --> 20:19.640 How'd you happen to get into rest and police work, Jim? You said your father was an engineer, didn't you? 20:19.640 --> 20:24.640 Yeah, that's right. I don't know how I got into it, but I just took to it, I guess. 20:24.640 --> 20:28.640 I always like to watch people's reactions and their behavior. Fascinating. 20:28.640 --> 20:30.640 The locker room's down this way. 20:30.640 --> 20:32.640 Okay. 20:32.640 --> 20:35.640 What are you planning on doing when you graduate? College? 20:35.640 --> 20:39.640 Yeah, I guess so. Dad wants to send me to MIT. 20:39.640 --> 20:40.640 It's good school. 20:40.640 --> 20:49.640 Yeah. Say, if you ever have the time, I'd sure like to see some of the ballistics equipment down at the police crime lab. I've read up on ballistics quite a bit, too. 20:49.640 --> 20:50.640 Oh, is that so? 20:50.640 --> 20:55.640 Yeah. The polygraph light detector. That's my favorite, though. Wonderful machine. 20:55.640 --> 20:56.640 Mm-hmm. 20:56.640 --> 21:00.640 Imagine, charting positive and negative reactions like that. It's marvelous. 21:00.640 --> 21:02.640 Yeah, it is. 21:02.640 --> 21:10.640 Say, have either one of you ever read Dawson's treatise? I think it's called The Psychology of the Criminal Mind. You ever read it? 21:10.640 --> 21:12.640 I think we had that in training, didn't we, Ben? 21:12.640 --> 21:14.640 Mm-hmm. Feminine, can't you? 21:14.640 --> 21:18.640 How about Criminal Behavior and its Basis, Maxwell's book? Did you ever read that one? 21:18.640 --> 21:20.640 No, I don't think I did. 21:20.640 --> 21:26.640 It's a great book. I got quite a few textbooks on crime. We went on sex crimes. I just got very good. 21:26.640 --> 21:28.640 Mm-hmm. This locker room? 21:28.640 --> 21:35.640 Yeah, I almost went past it. My locker's down this way. 21:35.640 --> 21:38.640 How do you shave, Jim? You use an electric razor or a safety razor? 21:38.640 --> 21:41.640 Me? Electric razor. They're the best. 21:41.640 --> 21:43.640 Yeah, they're a lot easier to use. 21:43.640 --> 21:47.640 Here it is. I'll open it for you. 21:47.640 --> 21:50.640 All right. Ben, you got those envelopes? 21:50.640 --> 21:52.640 Oh, yeah. Yeah, here they are. 21:52.640 --> 21:54.640 Okay, would you step aside there, Jim? 21:54.640 --> 21:55.640 Yeah, sure. 21:55.640 --> 21:58.640 All right. We'll get some dust scrapings from the shelf here. 22:02.640 --> 22:04.640 All right, there you are. Ben, you want to mark it? 22:04.640 --> 22:10.640 Yeah. Jim Travers' dust scrapings from the locker. 22:10.640 --> 22:16.640 All right. Let's see here. Here's some more scrapings from the bottom of the locker this time, huh? 22:16.640 --> 22:20.640 Okay, I'll seal these envelopes. Here's a nail file. 22:20.640 --> 22:23.640 Okay, Jim. Now will you hold out your right hand? 22:23.640 --> 22:26.640 Hmm? Oh, yeah. 22:26.640 --> 22:29.640 Hold an envelope under his hand, would you, Ben? Catch the nail scrapings? 22:29.640 --> 22:32.640 Yep. Yep, here we are. 22:32.640 --> 22:34.640 Say, what's all this for, Sergeant? 22:34.640 --> 22:37.640 Oh, it's just routine with everybody, Jim. 22:37.640 --> 22:41.640 Just going to take some sample specimens to run through the spectrograph. 22:41.640 --> 22:43.640 The spectrograph? 22:43.640 --> 22:46.640 Now, let me scrape that middle fingernail a little. 22:46.640 --> 22:47.640 Oh, okay. 22:47.640 --> 22:51.640 That's it. Now the index finger. 22:51.640 --> 22:53.640 What about the spectrograph? 22:53.640 --> 22:55.640 We use it all the time. 22:55.640 --> 22:58.640 Well, it won't work in a case like this, will it? 22:58.640 --> 23:01.640 All right, that's all for the right hand, Ben. Don't forget to mark the envelope. 23:01.640 --> 23:13.640 Yep. Here's some Jim Travers scrapings from fingernails of right hand. 23:13.640 --> 23:14.640 There we go. 23:14.640 --> 23:16.640 All right, now the left hand, Jim. 23:16.640 --> 23:18.640 Hmm? Yeah. 23:18.640 --> 23:22.640 You know, we don't know if this is going to work or not. It's worth a try. 23:22.640 --> 23:24.640 We'll know this afternoon. 23:24.640 --> 23:25.640 This afternoon? 23:25.640 --> 23:28.640 Yeah. We'll have to run you through on the machine. Hold the envelope a little closer, Ben. 23:28.640 --> 23:30.640 Oh, yeah. 23:30.640 --> 23:32.640 How's it going to help you? 23:32.640 --> 23:35.640 It might tell us what you had for breakfast a week ago. 23:35.640 --> 23:38.640 It might tell us what kind of clothes you wore three days ago. 23:38.640 --> 23:41.640 What kind of objects you came in contact with. 23:41.640 --> 23:45.640 Oh. Well, what kind of principle does it operate on? 23:45.640 --> 23:50.640 Oh, I don't know. We can ask Lee Jones. Here, let me get the scrapings from your thumb. 23:50.640 --> 23:52.640 All right, there it is. Now seal it and mark it, Ben. 23:52.640 --> 23:54.640 All right. 23:54.640 --> 23:56.640 You want to call the officers and tell them we're on our way in? 23:56.640 --> 23:59.640 Yeah, I'll be in that room right next to the principal's office. 23:59.640 --> 24:03.640 Okay. You can close your locker, Jim. That's all. 24:03.640 --> 24:06.640 Yeah, all right. 24:06.640 --> 24:10.640 We'll check the things in your pockets when we get to the crime line. Let's go. 24:12.640 --> 24:15.640 That spectrograph must be a marvelous machine. 24:15.640 --> 24:17.640 Well, it's worked for us a lot of times. 24:17.640 --> 24:21.640 We've got evidence on the suspect that either it convicts him or it clears him. 24:21.640 --> 24:23.640 You'll probably get a kick out of it. 24:23.640 --> 24:26.640 I'd like to see it. 24:26.640 --> 24:29.640 You say it tells you everything a person's come in contact with, huh? 24:29.640 --> 24:31.640 Yeah, that's right. 24:31.640 --> 24:33.640 Could it tell you how I shave? 24:33.640 --> 24:35.640 Well, how do you mean? 24:35.640 --> 24:38.640 I mean, with an electric razor or a safety razor. 24:38.640 --> 24:41.640 Oh, yeah, sure. That's one of the primary things. 24:41.640 --> 24:46.640 I don't know exactly how it works, but it does the job. We'll get Lee Jones to explain it to us. 24:46.640 --> 24:50.640 How about this door? We can cut across the courtyard. 24:50.640 --> 24:53.640 Oh, those are sure nice grounds. 24:53.640 --> 24:55.640 Will they keep me long, downtown sergeant? 24:55.640 --> 24:57.640 What do you think, Jim? 24:57.640 --> 25:00.640 You know, the strange part about these knifings out here... 25:00.640 --> 25:02.640 What's that? 25:02.640 --> 25:06.640 Whoever's responsible probably doesn't even realize what he's doing. 25:06.640 --> 25:09.640 Man, Lee's sick. He's very sick. 25:09.640 --> 25:11.640 The best thing for him would be a doctor. 25:11.640 --> 25:16.640 Just like any other sickness, it's not going to get better by itself. 25:16.640 --> 25:17.640 Yeah. 25:17.640 --> 25:21.640 The only trouble is he's just getting his appetite up with these knifings. 25:21.640 --> 25:23.640 If he goes much longer... 25:23.640 --> 25:26.640 How about that spectrograph, sergeant? 25:26.640 --> 25:31.640 Say, for instance, if I happen to hold a knife in my hand or maybe a razor. 25:31.640 --> 25:34.640 Oh, yeah, that'd show on the machine. 25:34.640 --> 25:35.640 We go in here? 25:35.640 --> 25:37.640 Yeah. 25:42.640 --> 25:45.640 Terrible thing. 25:45.640 --> 25:48.640 Whoever it is. 25:48.640 --> 25:49.640 Terrible thing. 25:49.640 --> 25:53.640 Yes, it is. 25:53.640 --> 25:56.640 Here, Jim. 26:07.640 --> 26:10.640 Joe, how's it going? 26:10.640 --> 26:12.640 I think he's ready to tell us. 26:12.640 --> 26:13.640 Hope so. 26:13.640 --> 26:19.640 I expect a good one. 26:19.640 --> 26:23.640 All right, son, you want to tell us about it now? 26:23.640 --> 26:28.640 I couldn't help myself. I had to do what I had to. 26:28.640 --> 26:32.640 I couldn't sleep, I couldn't study unless I did it. 26:32.640 --> 26:35.640 I couldn't help myself. 26:35.640 --> 26:38.640 You're responsible for all the knifings, are you? 26:38.640 --> 26:42.640 Yeah. 26:42.640 --> 26:45.640 You knew, didn't you? 26:45.640 --> 26:47.640 Who told you? 26:47.640 --> 26:49.640 You told us, Jim. 26:49.640 --> 26:51.640 I'm glad you caught me. It was getting worse. 26:51.640 --> 26:53.640 It might have been too late. 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